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"Mustafo may have his hands full" Bob Chic...
In the ProBodybuilding Weekly Radio Show, Bob said that after Mustafa got his placing , he seen Arnold on the way to presenting Dex the trophy and was bombarded hiim by telling him that he has a family to feed and what not, and more importantly is that he was screwed because of racism... Bob said it was outta line !!
Discuss...
I wish the guvennator would act like his role in Colateral Damage and merck the terrorist.... jk
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He's been looked over in the past, but I don't think his placing at the ASC this year was far off. 7th. Behind Lee, Melvin, Gus, Vic, Branch and Dex. Placing behind those 5 is nothing to complain about. Did 7th. place get any $$$?
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Mustafa improved his conditioning quite a bit from the Ironman to the Arnold. He could have easily been 5th or 6th at the Arnold instead of 7th, but his placing was not outrageous. He should have spent some time watching the strongman competition this weekend to learn what good sportsmanship is all about. Nobody likes a sore loser.
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Mustafa looked like fucking shit and he has to realise it ! He was fat and he was the most unconditionned guy of the show. He didn't do his homeworks.
Milos said a couple of month ago that mustafa don't want to do cardio.
I don't have any respect for a guy that isn't working the hardest he could and then cry like a baby cause he gets bad placing.
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he has big legs sure, but where was the conditioning, where were all the cuts, the striations? They werent there so he should just shut the fuck up and accept he is no better than a low 2nd tier BBer
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I'm sure Bob would have placed as well as Mustafa did at the Arnold Classic.
Who's with me? ;D
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Bob place well? All in the same sentence?? You are definetly dieting!
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It does strike me as fairly coincidental that Bob publicizes rude and slanderous comments about Mustafa shortly after 240 or Bust compares the two.
I understand how Bob might be upset by 240's words, however, to take it out on Mustafa is nothing short of immature, disrespectful and wrong.
Boo Bob.
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If Mustafa showed up in shape, he would place better.
Nothing else needs to be said.
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"Mustafo may have his hands full" Bob Chic...
In the ProBodybuilding Weekly Radio Show, Bob said that after Mustafa got his placing , he seen Arnold on the way to presenting Dex the trophy and was bombarded hiim by telling him that he has a family to feed and what not, and more importantly is that he was screwed because of racism... Bob said it was outta line !!
Discuss...
I wish the guvennator would act like his role in Colateral Damage and merck the terrorist.... jk
The racism ( more specifically ) was said to be religious based. He said his poor placing was due to his being Muslim.
Totally out of line.
The Beef.
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The racism ( more specifically ) was said to be religious based. He said his poor placing was due to his being Muslim.
Totally out of line.
The Beef.
I agree. The judges at these events don't have a moral fiber on their bodies. He was probably discriminated for not giving it up or maybe he did which is it now? i am confused. :-\
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Maybe if instead of bitchin he could just do some cardio and solve the problem.
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Somebody post that wicked pic of Mustafa's Side Chest vs Arnolds.
Totally hijack this post.
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Mustafa is quite obviously being screwed and it's amazing to me that some of you would pin it on him. At the 2004 ASC he came second last and I would argue he looked better than Jay at that show (who looked as flat as a pancake and shouldn't have been no higher than fourth).
Maybe I'll write an article on this and the alledged racism. The IFBB judges probably wouldn't like hearing about that on a website being viewed by 5,000 people a day.
I always thought they were just screwing Mustafa because of name recognition - but it could very well be religiously based.
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Maybe if instead of bitchin he could just do some cardio and solve the problem.
bob was never outta line with the commentary of Mustafa.... seperately he has some of the greatest body parts around .... but if you take the hood of a lambogihni, the doors of a bently, the spoiler of a Porshe 911, and the chassey of a hummer... you dont get the best car ..you get Frankenstufa.... "The Whole is greater than the sum of all parts" Gesalt Theory even applies in Bodybuilding!!!
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i dont blame him one bit for his frustration, he gets screwed more than a sybian in a porn studio.
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ya ever see those girls whose cardio IS bitching?
Like, they're skinny and all, but only because they're always surrounded by drama and acting all dramatic/uppity in any room they're in?
I tend to stay away from crazy ass bitches like that 8)
But point being that bitchin does not help him at all and if somone cant realize that they don't look perfect then they will never make the changes needed and make it nowhere. He has been told and it's been written over and over again for years that if he came in more conditioned that he would place better and yet year after year he doesnt seem to be making any effort toward changing his look, its' just the same ol' huge, thick and underconditioned mustafa. We all saw ruhlmake an attempt to look better (but it backfired) but mustafa hasn't overdone it except on contest day when he tries to make a 24hr U-turn with his conditioning and then ends up in the hospital.
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Yeah, WOW....his chest is HUGE!!!!
I think he has the best side chest in BB right now.
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ya he's got a crazy chest and is thick all over. A real bodybuilder unlike the machine-hugger bobilino Chick!
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Come on matt ! I agree with you abou tlast year ASC, he got screwed.
But saturday was mustafa's worst ever condition and he deserved his placing
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Not only is he massive, but he handles himself with class, even when being screwed. He must be outraged to be continually placed so low over and over- but he never talks trash in the media or smashes trophies. He just keeps paying his dues.
Yeah....he "handled himself with class" so much over the last 2 shows...he's been officially sent a letter from the IFBB with a one time warning, before he's suspended indefinitely.
He cornered John Balik at the Ironman, and then decided that rushing up to Arnold backstage and bitching about being screwed because of his race/ religion, was a good idea....
Ask Milos about what a "stand up guy" Mustafa is.....
BTW...Milos has NOTHING to do with MM, or his contest prep...that ended some tiome ago, along with their friendship.
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I didn't know about this, I tought Milos was still doing his prep.
Thanks for the info bob
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Yeah....he "handled himself with class" so much over the last 2 shows...he's been officially sent a letter from the IFBB with a one time warning, before he's suspended indefinitely.
He cornered John Balik at the Ironman, and then decided that rushing up to Arnold backstage and bitching about being screwed because of his race/ religion, was a good idea....
Ask Milos about what a "stand up guy" Mustafa is.....
BTW...Milos has NOTHING to do with MM, or his contest prep...that ended some tiome ago, along with their friendship.
Chick, i know you're a friend of King Kamali. Which is one of the best bodybuilders and "entertainers" in the business in my personal opinion. But man i'm tensing some kind of shit between you and Mustafa. Now am i right or i'm just talking out my azz as a fan of "IFBB?" ::)
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Chick, i know you're a friend of King Kamali. Which is one of the best bodybuilders and "entertainers" in the business in my personal opinion. But man i'm tensing some kind of shit between you and Mustafa. Now am i right or i'm just talking out my azz as a fan of "IFBB?" ::)
You couldn't be more wrong..I have nothing personal against MM, were very cordial towards each other and treat each other with respect.
As for "240's" response...this is public info...believe me, there's PLENTY of shit that goes on behind the scenes that isn't privvy to the internet...I have VERY confidential info in reguards to athletes and helping them with contract negotiations, and other related business info.
It's MM's own actions that are getting him in hot water...to even insinuate that race or religion has a damn thing to do with MM's placings is unfounded and ludicrious at best.
If anything...I figure the judges must really LIKE Mustafa, as I (or anyone else I talked to/ interviewed) had him higher than 10th-11th. IMO...Tony Freeman, Darrem, and David henry all should have been placed ahead of MM.
He should be thanking the judges for their generous placing.
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I can tell you one thing.
Mustafa has never
-insulted fans, "queers", or "retards" on a public forum
-threatened to "hospitalize" anyone on a public forum.
So he's A-OK in my book!
I've never insulted fans, queers, or retards either....show me one example.
As for threatening to hospitalize you....I'm quilty as charged.
If Mustafa ever read the shit you spew....he'd threaten to knock off that stack of dimes you call a neck, as well.
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So now you're saying he received a consolation prize? A "we feel sorry for you because you're from a third world country so we'll give you a better placing" prize?
Nice.
Try actually READING what I just wrote, instead of giving YOUR interpretation of what I wrote....
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Yeah you said he should be thanking the judges for their generous placing, and that you had him pegged at 10th-11th or higher. 10th or 11th is quite the spread when he actually came in at 6th, so your implications are that you would have placed him at 7,8,9,10, or 11 (putting 2 and 2 together -- judges generous & you putting him above 11th, not 7th).
I read it, I understood it, I repeated it back. It was insulting. And I would have been rather unhinged if someone said that about my placing after all the blood, sweat and tears I shed to get there.
Are you drunk, or high?
You STILL got it wrong.....
I didn't say "10th,-11th or HIGHER"....I said 10-11th....PERIOD!
He placed 7th....not 6th. get your facts straight
They ALLLLLLLLLLL shed the same blood, sweat and tears (as do I) when competing...it means NOTHING to the judges, commentators, or the final placings. There is no round where you get to submit an essay on "My hurdles I've overcome while preparing for this show", and they give pity points.
It's a physique contest....they judge whats in front of them.
Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life son.....
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Bob, why do you have to attack people with substance abuse problems now? Bob, have you considered some sort of anger management class, counseling perhaps?
Lighten up, Francis...!
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lol.
That's even worse! So now you're insinuating that it was more of a gift that I originally thought you were saying.
You don't even understand the implications of your own posts....nor the logic of mine.
(btw: I said 7th because he did place 6th, meaning you had picked him for something higher than he had actually placed -- more of that fancy new logic stuff)
what part of these results dont you understand?
1. dex
2. branch
3. vic
4. gus
5. melvin
6. lee
7.MUSTAFA
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Bob I think you have to just come to the realisation ( as I have) that alot of the people on Getbig are , ummmm , wellll , ahhhhhh lets just say "one sandwich short of a lunch box"--- but they are trying which has got to be a good thing---- I mean in alot of these rehiblitation programmes they give them computers to try and get there laterial thinking processes acting above the "brain dead" status!!!
ANY HOWS, HOW,S THE DIET GOING, NOT BOTHERING YOU AT ALL ???
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You couldn't be more wrong..I have nothing personal against MM, were very cordial towards each other and treat each other with respect.
As for "240's" response...this is public info...believe me, there's PLENTY of shit that goes on behind the scenes that isn't privvy to the internet...I have VERY confidential info in reguards to athletes and helping them with contract negotiations, and other related business info.
It's MM's own actions that are getting him in hot water...to even insinuate that race or religion has a damn thing to do with MM's placings is unfounded and ludicrious at best.
If anything...I figure the judges must really LIKE Mustafa, as I (or anyone else I talked to/ interviewed) had him higher than 10th-11th. IMO...Tony Freeman, Darrem, and David henry all should have been placed ahead of MM.
He should be thanking the judges for their generous placing.
Well if you say you guys get along, that's cool. I just think bullshit "politics" ruins the IFBB for the fans.
p.s. If i was you i wouldnt reply to the nonsense comments some of these members make, waste of energy and they feed off of your replies man.
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www.teammustafa.com is doing their part.
Thats a sick site. Mustafa should consider changing his name to Jose and passing off as a Mexican. Mustafa is the people's champ!
What do you have against him Chick?
You've have commented negatively on him quite a bit recently. Sure you're allowed to comment on peoples physiques but the truth is anyone can be picked a part.
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Cool photos chic , your very photogenic and damm huge, I never realy looked good in any photos that I had done , the bod was fine it was my head that let me down !!!
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Retarded:
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Overweight:
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Queer:
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Getbig fans = idiots
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Talking out of school about another athlete's punishment
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Some really weak conclusions there
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About as straight as a pretzel smoothee.
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not for nuthin there isnt anyone on this board that wouldnt want the build that bob has in those 2 pics. his arms/tris are full, good shoulders. one of the few bb's that had/has a complete build with a good taper. how many people know what its like to be in/on a shoot with pro photographers/crews knowing that the prints of you will be published. besides, the guys right, wtf did that guy think btchn to the oak was gonna do. yeah hell go back out tell the crowd there was a mistake take away 1st from dex the hand it over to mm. if your a pro ur a pro in every sense of the word. how many times did u btch backstage bob. which includes carrying yourself in certain manor win or lose. its like that with any pro in any sport (or non-sport whatever for whoever) or profession.
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I agree wholeheartedly!
But, it does get the athlete's rep to send me weekly threats, which keeps the place interesting for me.
I'm a very boring man, in case you didn't know. :)
I would be more ok with it if there weren't so many retards here who unconditionally believed in your smoke and mirrors game. :)
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Did Mustafa really try to play the race card? "Stop! Don't give the trophy to Dexter! This is Racist!"
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Mustafa is the best bodybuilder of all time.
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Mustafa's placings have nothing to do with his race or religion.
Correct me if i'm wrong but didn't samir banout win a few bodybuilding contests in his day?
He just doesn't have the name yet to beat Lee or Victor or other IFBB favorites.
But, saying the David Henry should have placed higher is a joke....with obviously the best chest and legs at that contest how could he not place in the top 10???
Judges always use "symmetry" and "lines" as an excuse, that is why results in BB contests are meaningless its' like figure skating.
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Judges always use "symmetry" and "lines" as an excuse, that is why results in BB contests are meaningless its' like figure skating.
who said figure skating was much different ::) and also last i checked they had a whole round devoted to symmetry so i hope they are using it to judge and not to just stare at men with almost no clothes.
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bob chick does look good in that pose
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Chick placed 2nd in a pro show, just something to remember
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Ok I am not a fan of Bob, I often disagree with every statement he makes. But for this thread i am on his side. God damn it guys, you should open your eyes and you would see that mustafa looked like shit at the asc. He was fat fat fat and watery. worst conditionned athlete of the show.
Ok you can like the guy but your are too biased.
I am not a mustafa hater, if he was sharp he could win the shows. but he isn't so till he prove me wrong he isn't a top tier pro
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I've said it a million times. Mustafa may be a nice guy and he may be the "people's champ" especially as a hero for the Muslim community... whatever, I don't know... BUT he does not and never will have a contest-winning physique, not in the world-class pro ranks.
Mustafa has definitely got the "wow" factor due to his size and thickness but he just doesn't have the structure to compete with more genetically gifted guys (IMO and the judges too, apparently).
I'm 245 natural. I could "juice to the gills" and maybe put on 50-60 lbs. and still look like crap and not even win a local contest. Most folks just don't have "pretty" genetics. That's why guys like Flex Wheeler and Shawn Ray are such a rarity.
That's all there is to it. It has nothing to do with Mustafa's race or religion or nationality. It has everything to do with the genetics he was born with. End of story.
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I respectfully disagree. Nice or not, he has what it takes to compete at the highest level. Right now he may not have the graceful look, but his body is a sculpture and he has laid a very good foundation. A tweak here, and there, and he's got a winning package.
You can't win at the top with just good form and structure, it takes sheer mass (ala Coleman, Jay, Ruhl, etc.). There hasn't been a Bob Paris or Frank Zane win in a very long time. Trends are leaning towards Mustafa's build. And he's light years ahead compared to the others at both the Ironman and Arnold. Coming to the O built like Lee or Dex will place you nicely based on flow of muscle, but won't propel you to the top tier where only the mass wins.
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Dan-O is 100% right.
Mustafa just does NOT have good lines, a la Shawn Ray/Flex Wheeler.
Hell even Nasser (from the front) in his prime.
Think of this - when artists draw a muscle-guy/superhero/bodybuilder what does the drawing look like - typically an exaggerated version of a Shawn or Flex or Arnold.
NOT a Mustafa.
MM's just genetically cursed - aint nothing you can do about your structure. He's as good as he'll ever get.
Actually he should probably SHRINK his thighs - Shawn Ray wisely backed off his thigh development + poured his energy to improve his back - worked wonders!
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This guy has paid his bloody dues already and it's time to start placing him at the big shows. IFBB judges listen up! >:(
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=58503.0;attach=68950;image)
Mustafa needs to listen up & get ripped without relying on diuretics. All the muscle in the world but not shredded. He needs to get on that treadmill for at least 2 hours per day.
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there are only 2 BBers ive heard of that can get ripped (actually they get super ripped!) without using cardio and believe me, Mustafa ISNT one of them! Hes a lazy bastard, even a 300lb+ ronnie coleman puts in the hours on the treadmill and stairmaster.
"dont worry, my day will be over pretty soon..................it s a wonderful life!" RC@ 12am on the treadmill in The Unbelieveable
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Why all the towards Chick from some of you guys on here? Chick is right, MM did not look as good as those that place infront of him....that's why they placed infront of him. Duh. Yes he is huge and has a great chest and huge legs but his structure is flawed and he cannot get ripped come contest time, at least not to the level of those that....uh, place in front of him. See the pattern? He doesnt want to put work into cardio, so he cannot get ripped, so he places below the better conditioned BB's.
And Garreth, why dont you take your meaningless BS somewhere else. Chick is saying that he got a "gift" in getting the placing he did. Not because it is a 'pity' placing or any or BS you try to spew trying to bend what Chick said. Shut the fuck up, you sound like a godamn turd. MM got a higher placing than he deserved in some peoples eyes, which he clearly did. So wipe those tears from your eyes and take the dildo out of your ass.
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Again, you miss the point. The "gift" in this context is that some people, myself included, thought that he placed higher than he should. Not the "gift" that you think of it as. As in they gave it to him out of pity or sorrow, or a "thanks for playing" gift. I did not mean it as a handout. And I cannot even fathom where you came up with idea that thats what we were meaning...
Also, I'm against government handouts, thank you very much. As socialism breads a class of lazy people that have an entitlement mentality. And with that, stop reading into this so much, Medicade, social welfare? We are talking bodybuilding here, and last time I checked, not one judge or person for that matter sees exactly what the other sees in terms of conditioning, muscularity etc. Chill out.
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Mustafa Muhammad went off on Arnold backstage at the classic.The pair got into a heated discussion in german about the political environment of the show.Mustafa stated that the show was racist and that he got kid's to feed. Personally , i think Mustafa could have handled it differently. He was probably running on emotion and blew up in front of everyone.
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he is a fucking cry baby.
If he really cared that much about his kids he would have chose another job
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Dude has balls, ya gotta give him that.
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Why were they speaking in German? ???
And where did you hear this from? Who translated it? You?
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I love it when people say that Mustafa's structure is flawed. Thats pretty fucking funny. I mean sure his quads are a little bigger than his upper body, but his upper body is still crazy big. And the fucker still has a sick X frame. Maybe he should just stop training legs all together and that way he'll appeal to a lot of the fags here like Chic putting him down.
Yeah, he has a shitty structure. Fucking hilarious!
Oh but Cutler, (the #2 guy) in the world is so aesthetically appealing. Great structure ::)
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Anyways, I hope Mustafa bombs the whole row of judges at his next show.
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I think at the end of the day we're wasting our time by discussing alleged racism claims...
It seems unfair to me that a Chic offers his opinion on a physique and is bashed because it's not praise worthy. Since when does pointing out flaws in ones' physique presentation personal? It seems like an honest crique made by Bob was turned into a racial prejudice claim.
It's also understandable that MM is upset over his placing, anyone who works that hard to not accomplish their original goals is going to be frusterated, it's unfortunate he took it out on the wrong guy (arnold) and some here vent that same frusteration against Chic.
Just reflect over this issue for 10 seconds, it's stupid. There are more important things than how MM performed in some contest... the idea that MM received a low placing over race is ludicrus.
Also let's assume Chic is gay... what the heck does that have to do with anything? Some people are personally attacking Chic for their own benefit.
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maybe he went a bit overboard but its understandable for him to blow off some frustration considering he gets screwed all the time.
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he needs to go win the hungary show and STFU.
does he even have a green card?
240, call the INS
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A few minutes after this incident occured, an IFBB official or expeditor comes into the office backstage and says that you are not going to beleive this - that Mustafa came running to Arnold and that the CHP officers also took him down - but Arnold waved the off. He has some pictures from this incident. They did speak in a different language and Mustafa did get into a discussion about how the judges werent treating him fairly. Arnold took it in stride, they took a picture, but Arnold was not happy with the incident.
Two weeks ago, at the Ironman, Mustafa did the same thing, yelling at John Bailik (the promoter) on how he picked the judges from California to screw him. (Like John picked the judges).
These incident were not cool. Mustafa has every right to complain - no problem with that - but not right after a show to the promoters, coming at them angrily. Not to Arnold, to to John Bailik. I am happy that he has received a letter from the IFBB with a warning, because that shouldn't happy. He if wants to complain, there are many people and press who would give me free reign on what to say - but not right there and then.
Yes - Milos and Mustafa had a disagreement, so Milos is not training him or helping him, as I found out at the Arnold.
Now for the placings - sitting with Isaac (Lift Studios) in the pit - we both pretty much had the same placings for the competitors, plus or minus one up or down. There is no bias - it is how we (or I) saw it from the angle we were sitting.
1) Dexter Jackson
2) Branch Warren
3) Victor Martinez
4) Gustavo Badell
5) Lee Priest
6) Darrem Charles
7) Melvin Anthony
8) Mustafa Mohammed
Mustafa has nothing to complain about with the judges placings. They actually gave him better than I did, and put Darrem in 8th...
As fir Gustava Badell, when we asked me what I thought after the show - I told him the truth. He looked at me quietly listening - then shook his head - then said to come by and get his new DVD that he just released. In the end, once the pictures are looked upon, people may or may not agree.
But Mustafa shouldn't of done that... it is that simple.
If he had a problem - talk to the judges...
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Mustafa screwed up (like thats something new). He's placings aren't getting any better so now I think it will be even worse.
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if he comes in ripped, he'll be the thickest and best looking massmonster physique onstage. Lean, he beats the hell outta cutler
he still needs to STFU
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if he comes in ripped, he'll be the thickest and best looking massmonster physique onstage. Lean, he beats the hell outta cutler
The thing is.... he never comes in ripped !
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Where is the pictures then?
Also,It's true that Bob Chic was demoted in the military due to those pictures taken of him? Any sources for this? I don't see how they could legally do such a thing. He could of Sued them.
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You are really kinda stupid aren't you? This is the second post where you've proven it to me within the past five minutes.
Take two seconds and go to either site and look for yourself. I'm not going to hunt through all 2500 pictures just to satisfy your curiousity. Get someone else to take it up the ass.
You aren't making sense...
What site? What 2,500 pictures?
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Some pics of Mustafa from the evening show...
http://www.getbig.com/pics/arnold/2006/finalsmens/mustafa.htm
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He doesn't need to shut up, he just needs to be asking the right questions, which are.. how can I improve to get a better placing. If he's asking those questions already and getting no answers then he's got every right to be angry.
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Just to make one thing clear - Mustafa is NOT one of my athletes.
I am also NOT surprised that he acts the way he does...he is showing his TRUE COLORS.
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Milos, is that a good thing or a bad thing? I know you helped him in the past and recieved a formal warning from the IFBB, but why is it Mustafa cant come in with solid conditioning? You of all people should be able to tell hmi exactly where it is hes going wrong as i know you specialised in conditioning
you have to realise yourself, even though he is a close friend of yours, that he got beter than he deserved. IMO Toney Freeman was screwed alot worse than he was
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Maybe he's afraid to end of in a hospital again.
(http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/pix/mohammed_hosammustafa_cp_81.jpg)
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"Mustafa is not one of my athletes"
No Shit, Not a trace of synthol on him.
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"Mustafa is not one of my athletes"
No Shit, Not a trace of synthol on him.
Damn! LOL! And the ref take's a point away.
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"Mustafa is not one of my athletes"
No Shit, Not a trace of synthol on him.
Yes, can you believe he didn't even want to try that?
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Milos, is that a good thing or a bad thing? I know you helped him in the past and recieved a formal warning from the IFBB, but why is it Mustafa cant come in with solid conditioning? You of all people should be able to tell hmi exactly where it is hes going wrong as i know you specialised in conditioning
you have to realise yourself, even though he is a close friend of yours, that he got beter than he deserved. IMO Toney Freeman was screwed alot worse than he was
First - Mustafa has enormous potential IF he would come READY... but that's probably NEVER going to happen.
He can't diet (cheat constantly) and hates cardio... He would come to me a week before the show (Luke saw him getting of the plane) and he looked fatter than I was at any point of my off season. He started his cardio 7 days out... and did maybe 3 hours total for his whole contest prep.
Dry fat is always going to be fat... but a lot of people will confuse his lack of conditioning and assume that he is "holding water"... Many people told him to put things together (get in good condition) and his placing will dramatically improve. While he constantly complains about his low placings - as many people noticed - he is actually getting gifts lately but cry's about racism... being discriminated... etc, etc
I was sticking up for him after his incident backstage at the 2004 Mr. Olympia - but after I witnessed with my own eyes how Mustafa really is I decided to no longer be associated with him. Going directly to Arnold backstage at ASC to complain about getting a gift (but not the money... and believe me money is THE ONLY THING that matters to him) shows his class (or lack of) and (poor) sportsmanship.
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Milos,
If you were getting on an airplane, and you noticed mustaffa in line for the same flight, would you turn around and book a ticket on a different airline?
No, I would just ask him when can I expect the money he owes me... I would probably tape the conversation and later write a book of "ten thousand excuses to use in case you owe money to somebody..."
Mustafa is master at that...no question.
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Mustafa is a very nice guy.
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Sad thing here is i dont know mustafa but from what i heard and thought he might be like Milos has backed it up, ever since the 2004 incedent when i first really heard of mustafa i had my doubts about him :-\
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Yes, can you believe he didn't even want to try that?
LOL.
What happened to your boy Gustavo at the Arnold?
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hols on what have i missed? I though Milos and Mustafa were very close friends
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milos, i am a huge fan of yours, man... but talking about business in public.. ouch!
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Looks like he diets to me. Or has just crazy awesome genetics and doesn't really have to.
Check out the twerps in the back... men I am bigger then them naturally hahahha
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milos, i am a huge fan of yours, man... but talking about business in public.. ouch!
Come on the guys hows him money and will probably never pay him back. he deserved to be bashed !
Plus Milos is very succesfull in bussiness and no offense but I don't think he needs lesson from you 240 ;)
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I dont think he wuold charge 300 for doing the preps of the pros. With all the time he is with them, nobody could afford it. He must deal prices depending on the person but maybe I am wrong. What do I know anyway ? ;)
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milos, i am a huge fan of yours, man... but talking about business in public.. ouch!
I know that - but I made an exception this time - for valid reason. Promoter Lindsay called me and told me that MY athlete gave trouble to Balik - and he doesn't want that to be the case in San Fran...
Than on live TV Bob announced that "my athlete" disrespectfully approached our Governor...and also there are few other things that I would not mention.
As I was publically making a lot of statements protecting Mustafa - even got myself in A LOT OF TROUBLE with Jim Mannion, Steve Weinberger, Steve Blechman, Per Bernal...and THE IFBB - now I have to make sure to express to everyone that I am not associated with him in any shape or form....
As far as other "business" (MONEY) - I am giving fair warning to others... as I wish someone gave me that warning...
That's all.
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Looks like he diets to me. Or has just crazy awesome genetics and doesn't really have to.
That is my pic of Mustafa and Jay...and YES - he lokked GREAT in that show...(3 years ago)...
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Is it $$ from the $300/hour Milos charges for training?
It is $350...but that's not the money I am talking about.
It was urgent loan that should have been returned to me in November...Check is somehow lost in the mail...
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milos, i am a huge fan of yours, man... but talking about business in public.. ouch!
i suppose you never heard the saying
the truth shall set you free :)
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Garraeth, go to Milos forum and go to his amateur team section. you will understand why he charges that price.
I have never seen athlete improving that fast. I don't know what they are doing but it seems to work a lot.
If I had the money I wouldn't hesitate a second to go consult Milos
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I know that - but I made an exception this time - for valid reason.
Promoter Lindsay called me and told me that MY athlete gave trouble to Balik - and he doesn't want that to be the case in San Fran...
Than on live TV Bob announced that "my athlete" disrespectfully approached our Governor...and also there are few other things that I would not mention.
As I was publically making a lot of statements protecting Mustafa - even got myself in A LOT OF TROUBLE with Jim Mannion, Steve Weinberger, Steve Blechman, Per Bernal...and THE IFBB - now I have to make sure to express to everyone that I am not associated with him in any shape or form....
As far as other "business" (MONEY) - I am giving fair warning to others...as I wish someone gave me that warning...
That's all.
I gotcha.
Bob Chick calling Mustafa "your athlete" for the media was a cheap shot at you.
Bob Chick wanted short-term ratings success at the expense of long-term viability. Idiot.
And you're right about the $, Milos. Prepay required on everything. Only way to go in the personal service field.
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Milos if you can concince me than you can get me where i want, I'll let you train me. I am the future Mr. Olympia.
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How can anyone hate on Mustafa? The guy takes care of his blind mother . . .
I hope he gets his conditioning up to par safely - noone wants to see another Momo (RIP)
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It is $350...but that's not the money I am talking about.
It was urgent loan that should have been returned to me in November...Check is somehow lost in the mail...
for that money do you show your "athletes" how to inject synthol or is that extra?
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It is $350...but that's not the money I am talking about.
It was urgent loan that should have been returned to me in November...Check is somehow lost in the mail...
I can vouche for this " Loan" as I was approared as well to help Mustafa save his Gym or something like that but you know me and Money, it is hard separate us! ;D
Boy was I lucky not to play into his request for Cash, do I look lika a Bank? :-*
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I can vouche for this " Loan" as I was approared as well to help Mustafa save his Gym or something like that but you know me and Money, it is hard separate us! ;D
Boy was I lucky not to play into his request for Cash, do I look lika a Bank? :-*
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No but you look like you just robbed one!
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shawn, are you saying mustafa asked you money :o
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You'd be correct sir, I respectfully kept the money in my pocket with a new baby and new house.
I had Priorities over his gym and business ;D
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i've heard about them crazy emails from nigeria asking for loans
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I can vouche for this " Loan" as I was approared as well to help Mustafa save his Gym or something like that but you know me and Money, it is hard separate us! ;D
Shawn, I'd like to request a donation to fix up the old jungle gym in my backyard. Should just take a few thou. And when I win the FisherPrice invitational, I should be able to pay ya back.
(http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/548938/2/istockphoto_548938_igloo_style_jungle_gym.jpg)
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Even If I was in deep shit, I would have a hard time asking money to someone, even a close friend. :-\
Are you really good friend with mustafa or you just talk at shows and that's it ?
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if i needed money i would just blackmail a well known christian pro who tried to cheat on his wife ;D
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Mustafa sounds like a mooch who uses pity to get money from people, he just makes this face :'( and courteous folks like milos get taken advantage of while money bags ray sees through the ruse and turns him down :o
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HA
I like him even more, hates cardio, diets for one week and still looks fuccing awesome!!!!
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I've had a similar experience as to like what Milos says he had with Mustafa...now I never loan money to anyone -- especially family/friends.
If one of them are in dire straights (jail, hurt, business loss, etc) I'll give it to them. No more loans.
Keeps everyone happy -- don't loose friends and family.
my neighbor was a predtory lender(loan shark) and made tons of money until he fell off his polo horse and died at 47 he charged 22 % interest with your real property attached should you fail. he wasnt loved by many.
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I've had a similar experience as to like what Milos says he had with Mustafa...now I never loan money to anyone -- especially family/friends.
Dude, that money for the coked up stripper was an investment in our future! I promise I spent the Boom7 seed money wisely!
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I gotcha.
Bob Chick calling Mustafa "your athlete" for the media was a cheap shot at you.
Bob Chick wanted short-term ratings success at the expense of long-term viability. Idiot.
And you're right about the $, Milos. Prepay required on everything. Only way to go in the personal service field.
Goddam your a douchbag.....wrong again as usual.
Me calling MM a "Milos trained athlete" was in the context that I was surprised a "Milos student" would act in this manor, as Milos always conducted himself as a gentlemen and a professional...and I knew he schooled his athletes as such.
It had nothing to do with "ratings" idiot...It was commentary which was shared by Shawn, as we discussed a whole variety of athletes and topics.....besides that, it wasn't a LIVE feed, MORON...it was taped.
Do us all a favor and take your own life.....
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Hey Bob if you need training tips from a champ, pm me.
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Goddam your a douchbag.....wrong again as usual.
Me calling MM a "Milos trained athlete" was in the context that I was surprised a "Milos student" would act in this manor, as Milos always conducted himself as a gentlemen and a professional...and I knew he schooled his athletes as such.
It had nothing to do with "ratings" idiot...It was commentary which was shared by Shawn, as we discussed a whole variety of athletes and topics.....besides that, it wasn't a LIVE feed, MORON...it was taped.
Do us all a favor and take your own life.....
Graceful as always in your capacity of leader of the impotent;
Bob, when a person does something as newsworthy and blasphemous as cursing out Gov. Arnold at his own show, it's gonna be big news. For that split second as an announcer, you must have realized that a certain stigma was going to be attached to the persons you spoke of. In times like that, you let the offender take the spotlight. In our minds- even if unintentional- those two men, and that deed, are forever intertwined.
Just think next time, Bob. And cursing at me, name-calling, and suicide insinuations only makes you look ignorant, Bob.
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I'm a fan of dieting Bob - we get more to the point responses each week.
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I'm a fan of dieting Bob - we get more to the point responses each week.
ahh so that explains why he's less than cuddly this week.
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Graceful as always in your capacity of leader of the impotent;
Bob, when a person does something as newsworthy and blasphemous as cursing out Gov. Arnold at his own show, it's gonna be big news. For that split second as an announcer, you must have realized that a certain stigma was going to be attached to the persons you spoke of. In times like that, you let the offender take the spotlight. In our minds- even if unintentional- those two men, and that deed, are forever intertwined.
Just think next time, Bob. And cursing at me, name-calling, and suicide insinuations only makes you look ignorant, Bob.
What part of "I wasn't doing the L I V E telecast didn't you understand? Even if I WAS doing the live telecast...there wouldn't have been a camera on the exchange between Arnold and MM....OBVIOUSLY.
...and NO....cursing at you, name calling you names and advising you to take your own life don't make me look ignorant...they expose YOU for the fool you portray.
somewhere, there's a village missing an idiot.....go back to where you came from.
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Why does Bob even feel the need to explain himself to 240 ???
Now we are gonna hear how he is cuddly this week and blah blah i am gonna feed into this shit ;D
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well i spoke a little to late
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Fuck is everyone dieting? Theres beefs up and down this whole fucking place. More than usual.
You know what, fuck Mustafa, Bob and all the fucking terrorists!
hahhaha meltdown.
Goddamn it I'm hungry. :-\
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Matt, it is that time of the week again, when you need to post the link of 240's meltdown 8)
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hahaha it never get old ;D
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Mustafa sounds like a mooch who uses pity to get money from people, he just makes this face :'( and courteous folks like milos get taken advantage of while money bags ray sees through the ruse and turns him down :o
You can't be more right...
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I can vouche for this " Loan" as I was approared as well to help Mustafa save his Gym or something like that but you know me and Money, it is hard separate us! ;D
Boy was I lucky not to play into his request for Cash, do I look lika a Bank? :-*
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He approached many even after I gave him all the money he needed. So, hopefully some people will read this and find out NOT TO FALL for his "tears"... Academy award was given this year to wrong actor...Mustafa could easily be nominated if Academy witnesses only one of his "crying" performances... I believe I am just one of the guys on the long list of people that he owes money to...And we are not talking hundreds...we are talking thousands...
Well, as much as I hate myself for being this way (as 240 pointed out - I should not talk publically about it) - I actually feel good telling the way it is for the sake of other people's money... On top of that - Mustafa called me and told me that he is going to kill me if I tell anyone about the fact that he owes me money... Well, I hope he doesn't read this.... ::)
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Mustafa is a fukking loser, Bob should just kick the shit out of him on behalf of the athletes. I wouldnt worry about him Milos, offer Arlovski a free years consultation to kick the fuck out of him, i hear he loves your gym lol
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Maybe Mustafa wants to be the next bad boy of bodybuilding?
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Maybe Mustafa wants to be the next bad boy of bodybuilding?
Yeah.. what's the worse that could happen? ::)
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What happend Matt?
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grown men in thongs acting out during a temper tantrum sounds slightly insane. the anxiety attached must have something to do with the dieting. but it certainly dont justify acting like a nutcase in front of the Governor or the California Highway Patrol.
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Who gives a shit about his personal life, wow, what a surprise to hear that a bodybuilders personal life is an wreck...considering how the majority are such upstanding citizens. Oh Brother
He still looks better than most of the people he's competing against, mooch or not.
"Mustafa is a fukking loser, Bob should just kick the shit out of him on behalf of the athletes."
Uh, Yeah? Him and what army?
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I have a really good feeling this thread will be mentioned in a few BB magazines within the next few months, most likely MD.
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Omg, Milos gave him money and Mustafa is acting like that
what a jerk. but I won't say nothing bad in here cause he is 240's hero
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WOW mustafa... who would've though... ::)
He needs to become a man and face the truth... that he is a bum!
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I also agree w/ 240, it's not such a hot idea to publically dispense personal issues like this. Sure it feels nice to get a little revenge and support, but at what cost?
Personally, I wouldn't do it just because it'd make me look just as stupid for being careless with my personal finance, and being a dolt for falling for a sob story. Kinda embarrassing imo.
And ether also has a good point -- hell if we were to choose bbers to be fans of based on their character, there wouldn't be any bodybuilding! Mustafa still has one of the best physiques around!
A quote from bbing.com:
It has nothing to do i believe in trying to publicaly humilate Mustafa. Word would have got aorund sooner or later that Milos's best friend and top client is no longer working with him. I knew something was wrong when i was looking for pictures of Mustafa on Milos website and i knew he had hundreds there and than all of a sudden they were gone. I knew something was bad than! I believe Milos point is to make sure no body else gets taken advantage like Milos has. If you knew Mustafa personally you would not only give loan him money or your car or your home but you would give him your shirt on your back if he needed, thats how nice and geniune he came across.
This does'nt make Milos look stupid or carless with his finace!! Milos was just simply helping out a friend who came to him in tears and said i will lose this and that if i don't get this money!!! i would have done the same. It was'mt like Milos knew than he was being taken for a ride!! not to mention the airfares within the USA, the hotels etc that Milos used his own money for to help Mustafa. Mustafa wins $1,000 at Texas, $2,000 at Charlotte and $12,000 at the Olympia and than takes Milos's loan and flys back home the day after the Olympia , never to be heard from again!!!
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It has nothing to do i believe in trying to publicaly humilate Mustafa. Word would have got aorund sooner or later that Milos's best friend and top client is no longer working with him. I knew something was wrong when i was looking for pictures of Mustafa on Milos website and i knew he had hundreds there and than all of a sudden they were gone. I knew something was bad than! I believe Milos point is to make sure no body else gets taken advantage like Milos has. If you knew Mustafa personally you would not only give loan him money or your car or your home but you would give him your shirt on your back if he needed, thats how nice and geniune he came across.
This does'nt make Milos look stupid or carless with his finace!! Milos was just simply helping out a friend who came to him in tears and said i will lose this and that if i don't get this money!!! i would have done the same. It was'mt like Milos knew than he was being taken for a ride!! not to mention the airfares within the USA, the hotels etc that Milos used his own money for to help Mustafa. Mustafa wins $1,000 at Texas, $2,000 at Charlotte and $12,000 at the Olympia and than takes Milos's loan and flys back home the day after the Olympia , never to be heard from again!!!
thanks for the info
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What happend Matt?
Mustafa had no cash at all and the MT guys had to give him a handout to cover some costs.
The NY promoters (Steve Weinberger who is reading this right now) really came across as a cheapskate from the details I got (provided by Mustafa and Milos). Apparently, Pavol Jablonicky didn't do the show because Steve and company didn't give him any funds for a cab and misc expenses, maybe a few hundred bucks in total.
If this did indeed happen it should be posted on these boards then they will have some kind of incentive to STOP DOING SHIT LIKE THAT. Christ, how cheap can you be Steve? ???
If this isn't true, and this is false information relayed to me, scratch what I said, but knowing how these second tier pro shows are run and how cheap they are, I would put my money on it being true.
Is Tony Doherty (who is also reading this right now), the only second tier show promoter who treats the bodybuilders with respect? It seems like everyone else just treats them like a bunch of meatheads.
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Mustafa is so underrated and ignored it's sick. These guys who bag on him have an adjenda, plain and simple.
As if Ronnie wasn't. Look at him in BFO 1997. Ronnie never bitched or cried. I guess the reason why Ruhl hasn't won that many contests is because he is German...Hail Markus ::).
MM didn't deserve to place ahead of Darrem, nor did MM deserve to win that contest, that is just delusional thinking.
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I also agree w/ 240, it's not such a hot idea to publically dispense personal issues like this. Sure it feels nice to get a little revenge and support, but at what cost?
I'm sure Milos is 1000% right in this matter and he was not paid what he was owed for his services. I would be pissed too. Royally!
I guess my point- and the reason why I never speak a WORD about bad business dealings on the board- is that people remember it. I've had people from getbig that didn't pay their bill. And I'll never speak their name. Why? Cause potential customers will realize that if they ever stumbled into a bad luck streak (which does happen in business) they might face public humiliation. Any customers that don't work out- I give them a full refund and an apology. Any customers who don't pay- I either implement a prepay policy (which I now have) or I just wait. I don't hold their files- or their reputation- hostage, as they can't pay you back if you ruin their good name and means of income. I WORK with them to make their business more profitable, not ruin their future earning power by airing dirty laundry...
Perhaps a better solution for this situation does exist. Right now, Mustafa's rep is ruined (which means he won't get guest poses), Milos is seen as one who airs laundry (bad for future client attraction) and Mustafa will not place as high at the next show, without Milos' help. Bad situation for all. Might be a binding contract contingent upon Milos getting a % of Mustafa's winnings at the next show in exchange for his advice, be a better solution? Everyone gets more value out of the equation. Mustafa and Milos are seen as nice guys, Mustafa looks better at the show, Milos gets $ back and rep grows as a result of a high MM placing. Probably too late now, but maybe next time. Just my 2 cents.
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Again, who cares about Mustafa's finances or personal life....and the fact that these will affect his placements in contests reflects how much of a joke everything is.
The bottom line is he looks fucking huge and his legs and chest dwarf pretty much most of the peeps he's competing against ... therefore, he should be placing really high and earning some cash.
I really don't give a shit if he owes milos money or if he scratches his ass in his spare time, all I know is he looks WAY bigger than people who are placing higher than him.
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Again, who cares about Mustafa's finances or personal life....and the fact that these will affect his placements in contests reflects how much of a joke everything is.
The bottom line is he looks fucking huge and his legs and chest dwarf pretty much most of the peeps he's competing against ... therefore, he should be placing really high and earning some cash.
I really don't give a shit if he owes milos money or if he scratches his ass in his spare time, all I know is he looks WAY bigger than people who are placing higher than him.
Exactly. The judges either (a) have an agenda, (b) are blind, (c) want Mustafa to "pay his dues" just like Ronnie, Gunter, etc, had to do before him. Hopefully it is (c), but who knows? All I know is that Mustafa comes in big and shredded in every show. Coming second last (only beating Greg Kovacs) at the 2004 ASC? WTF! Meanwhile Jay, who shouldn't have been in the top five, showing up flat as a pancake, comes in first???
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Not to derail the thread, but since people were asking for details, here they are:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ifbbwarning.html
This thread has since been deleted from getbig and I have no idea why. Time for me to start archiving all the controversial posts from now on. 8)
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Mustafa had no cash at all and the MT guys had to give him a handout to cover some costs.
The NY promoters (Steve Weinberger who is reading this right now) really came across as a cheapskate from the details I got (provided by Mustafa and Milos). Apparently, Pavol Jablonicky didn't do the show because Steve and company didn't give him any funds for a cab and misc expenses, maybe a few hundred bucks in total.
If this did indeed happen it should be posted on these boards then they will have some kind of incentive to STOP DOING SHIT LIKE THAT. Christ, how cheap can you be Steve? ???
If this isn't true, and this is false information relayed to me, scratch what I said, but knowing how these second tier pro shows are run and how cheap they are, I would put my money on it being true.
Is Tony Doherty (who is also reading this right now), the only second tier show promoter who treats the bodybuilders with respect? It seems like everyone else just treats them like a bunch of meatheads.
steve must be cheap
he dont even have an independent website for the new york show
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steve must be cheap
he dont even have an independent website for the new york show
I know where he can get one ;)
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I know where he can get one ;)
yup he just needs to holla at me ;)
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The bottom line is he looks fucking huge and his legs and chest dwarf pretty much most of the peeps he's competing against ... therefore, he should be placing really high and earning some cash.
Again as someone said, it is the some of the whole, not individual bodyparts. Paul Demayo had some of the freakiest quads, but look where he placed in the 95 Olympia.
Mustafa is good, but has no flow, and arms are too small.
and by the way, has Haidar complined of racism due to him being middle easter, and losing some close calls. No he hasn't. As a matter of fact, Haidar's physique flows way better than MM in my opinion. And that is probably why Haidar has had more Magazine covers and training articles than MM.
If MM came in the shape of his life, then i could see that he was raped, but he hasn't so he needs to quite crying, and pass that lube to Darrem, because he screwed like bankok whore during lunch time.
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BOOYAKASHA, you is chattin with da man who as boned literally 6 bitches, 9 if you include finga's and thumb's.
Dis bloke Mustard Mohammad seems like a real piece of crap innit. its quite obvious he dieted on 15 chiken mcnuggets and a few ice cream cones.
give it up for my main man Ray charles not given in to MM's cryin. neva trust a grown man who cry.
to da boss man Milo Sarnak, you as got ripped off, me wonda if he targeted you cause you is from transalvania, think about it, dat too is quite racialist innit.
respek
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I'm sure Milos is 1000% right in this matter and he was not paid what he was owed for his services. I would be pissed too. Royally!
I guess my point- and the reason why I never speak a WORD about bad business dealings on the board- is that people remember it. I've had people from getbig that didn't pay their bill. And I'll never speak their name. Why? Cause potential customers will realize that if they ever stumbled into a bad luck streak (which does happen in business) they might face public humiliation. Any customers that don't work out- I give them a full refund and an apology. Any customers who don't pay- I either implement a prepay policy (which I now have) or I just wait. I don't hold their files- or their reputation- hostage, as they can't pay you back if you ruin their good name and means of income. I WORK with them to make their business more profitable, not ruin their future earning power by airing dirty laundry...
Perhaps a better solution for this situation does exist. Right now, Mustafa's rep is ruined (which means he won't get guest poses), Milos is seen as one who airs laundry (bad for future client attraction) and Mustafa will not place as high at the next show, without Milos' help. Bad situation for all. Might be a binding contract contingent upon Milos getting a % of Mustafa's winnings at the next show in exchange for his advice, be a better solution? Everyone gets more value out of the equation. Mustafa and Milos are seen as nice guys, Mustafa looks better at the show, Milos gets $ back and rep grows as a result of a high MM placing. Probably too late now, but maybe next time. Just my 2 cents.
Mustafa didn't owe me any money for my services...as I didn't charge him anything.
He actually charged me to have privilege to prepare him...I guess?
Money that he owes me is a personal loan not my fee for the services...
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Mustafa didn't owe me any money for my services...as I didn't charge him anything.
He actually charged me to have privilege to prepare him...I guess?
Money that he owes me is a personal loan not my fee for the services...
I gotcha. I definitely understand why you're pissed too!
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Mustafa didn't owe me any money for my services...as I didn't charge him anything.
He actually charged me to have privilege to prepare him...I guess?
Money that he owes me is a personal loan not my fee for the services...
WOW man when are you going to start sponsering the future mr. Olympia?? In other words contact me and we can start working together!! 8)
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Rule number 1,2,3,4 5 and 6 when it comes to money, money and friends do not mix !!!
Then again you would think a friend would never ripp a friend off, so it is a tuff one , but rules 1,2,3,4,5,and 6 and been proven time and time and time again , I always say if you cant afford to do it then you shouldnt do it !!!
And there is nothing worse to unsettle ones faith in trust and friends than money !!
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Milo- oow much cash is we chattin about. me finks you should take mustards wife up the butty as payment. fink about it... just dont forget to wear your connies so you dont get a bad lurgy on your knob.
total respek
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Milo- oow much cash is we chattin about. me finks you should take mustards wife up the butty as payment. fink about it... just dont forget to wear your connies so you dont get a bad lurgy on your knob.
total respek
Holy Crap! This guy is absolutely right!
I am ALI G's biggest fan now.
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It is hard when someone asks you for money - I have been burned a few times, unfortunately..
Most for small amounts ($100, $200, etc), but the largest was for $1,300 which I gave to a 'friend' who really need to get out of a bind... never have seen the money since... and I don't think I will, as eventually he was arrested for stealing money from credit cards...
BUT, in other cases, I have given money to various friends, who have paid me back, some took a few years, but they gave me what they had until they had. One whom, eventually gave $2,500, has paid me back almost everything, and he will give me the rest in a few months. It felt good to help someone who really needed it...
It is a touchy situation... and sometimes, people will burn you..
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in school, we once fingered this bitch called ruth jonas. she got all eggy and menstrual when she found out i was lettin me friends sniff me fingers for ten pents. explain dat
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My roommates love ALI G.
i live in the heart of dfuckinc and i nevah heard of that fcukin losah
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in school, we once fingered this bitch called ruth jonas. she got all eggy and menstrual when she found out i was lettin me friends sniff me fingers for ten pents. explain dat
On behalf of all of the retards, I would like to welcome my good friend Ali G to Getbig.com.
Respeck,
Special "East Side" Ed
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On behalf of all of the retards, I would like to welcome my good friend Ali G to Getbig.com.
Respeck,
Special "East Side" Ed
you really are special!
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Talkin about loans...... I am owed hundreds by peeps on a weekly basis (Part of my business) and have be burned for only small amounts of cash (over $1000 once) but i def understand the feeling of mistrust when somone dicks you over, especially the fact that i don't charge intrerest which may be coming into effect soon.
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Mustafa had no cash at all and the MT guys had to give him a handout to cover some costs.
The NY promoters (Steve Weinberger who is reading this right now) really came across as a cheapskate from the details I got (provided by Mustafa and Milos). Apparently, Pavol Jablonicky didn't do the show because Steve and company didn't give him any funds for a cab and misc expenses, maybe a few hundred bucks in total.
If this did indeed happen it should be posted on these boards then they will have some kind of incentive to STOP DOING SHIT LIKE THAT. Christ, how cheap can you be Steve? ???
If this isn't true, and this is false information relayed to me, scratch what I said, but knowing how these second tier pro shows are run and how cheap they are, I would put my money on it being true.
Is Tony Doherty (who is also reading this right now), the only second tier show promoter who treats the bodybuilders with respect? It seems like everyone else just treats them like a bunch of meatheads.
Steve is cheap, huh?? Why/How can you say that?? Because two fucking grown men can't pay there own expenses like cab fare & $10 pre-judging ticket?? Get the fuck outta hear!!! Neither one of them is a guest poser for an event, so no misc. money is owed to either of them. It's not like Mustafa had to pay a $200 entrance fee/pay for his hotel room/pay for his flight to New York. Seems like you want Steve to pay for his fucking pro-tan as well.
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Some quotes for Milos to remember...
"A fool and his money are soon parted." - English Idiom
"Neither a borrower nor a lender be; For loan oft loses both itself and friend" - Polonius, "Hamlet", Shakespeare
"Never trust a crying bodybuilder." - Special Ed
Special "English Clit" Ed
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lmao ;D
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If mustafa was sooo worried about making money then he wouldn't be a BB
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"Mustafo may have his hands full" Bob Chic...
In the ProBodybuilding Weekly Radio Show, Bob said that after Mustafa got his placing , he seen Arnold on the way to presenting Dex the trophy and was bombarded hiim by telling him that he has a family to feed and what not, and more importantly is that he was screwed because of racism... Bob said it was outta line !!
Discuss...
I wish the guvennator would act like his role in Colateral Damage and merck the terrorist.... jk
If he showed up like he did at the Dutch GP a few yrs back, he'd place higher, its that simple
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i love to see idiots cry
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Has anybody notice that Milos has trained or "works with" a one Kris Dim, who has "suspect" arms, and denys anything is in them (speaking on his character), and and one MM who has a "suspect" character and denys any wrong doing?
Hmmm Milos, does have a way of finding cheats, liers, and cryers...
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Didnt anybody ever tell Milos...
The first rule of bodybuilding is never give a bodybuilder money...
the second rule is....
never give a bodybuilder money.
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If Mustafa is so worried about feeding his family, maybe he should quit bodybuilding, share around some of the masssive amounts of calories he is consuming and get a real job. Acting like an infant and complaining to anybody who will listen, looks bad for bodybuilding and bad for muslims. Personally, I think he placed to high, How Mustafa can place ahead of Darrem Charles
Toney Freeman, Troy Alves, David Henry, Ahmad Haidar and Johnnie Jackson, all showed superior conditioningto Mustafa, is beyond me. Sure he has some impressive bodyparts, but their is no flow to his physique. His lats are too high, his waist too wide, and his legs look retarded. I actually think the judges placed him a little higher because he cried so much at the IRONMAN, they hoped a better placing would appease the big crybaby, but people who display attitudes like his, are never happy, always think they are superior, and cry a lot. Lack of love shown to him as a child. Poor Man
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Look, I think Mustafa is simply a wonderful guy. I really don't see where all this misinformation is leading to. Why don't we just stick to the sport n' stop digging into peoples personal lives. Most of you guys here onboard are sitting in the safety of their homes behind their pc screens, logged on with fake nicknames, are totally out of shape and are lashing out at someone who hasn't even had the chance yet to defend himself coz he's too busy preparing himself contest after contest and simply doesn't have the time for all this BS goin' on on the boards. Could we please show some respect.
Rumors are exactly just that, RUMORS... Every story had 2 sides to it, and we still haven't heard the other side yet.
And I really don't see why everyone's gettin all hyped about what bob chick said about Mustafa. If I were Mustafa, I'd simply be laughing my azz off. The best someone like bob ( the self proclaimed spokesman of bodybuilding ) can do is stand in the shadow of MM. Mustafa is simply way out of his league to really ever care what someone like bob would say. My personal opinion.
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mustafa shoul start his diet for his next show a few weeks early, wear a weight belt extremely tight for all hsi training day....and he will be in the top 5 of any show.
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i have never known bob chick to ever lie EVER
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240, you could help Mustafa set up a good "site".
That way he could find... "sponsors".
YIP
Zack
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You're joking right? As in these attached screenshots and Chick going on and on about how Cook is so dreamy at the SF Pro.
since when is opinion a lie