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Title: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: Marty Champions on October 17, 2015, 03:30:12 PM
Light weight training does nothing you get the same exercise from raking leaves

If youre gonna train all u need is a few heavy exercises to try to get stronger to chart progress if any
Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: AbrahamG on October 17, 2015, 03:32:57 PM
Light weight training does nothing you get the same exercise from raking leaves

If youre gonna train all u need is a few heavy exercises to try to get stronger to chart progress if any

fuck off
Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on October 17, 2015, 03:37:58 PM
Light weight training does nothing you get the same exercise from raking leaves

If youre gonna train all u need is a few heavy exercises to try to get stronger to chart progress if any

He's a brew. Most don't train gritty. They fuck around with machines, cables, curls of all sorts, pushups, bodyweight dips and chin-ups, and so forth. There's a jacked one in my gym. I've NEVER seen him do anything but fuck around with cable stacks, HS and standardized machines. No squats, no bench presses, no bent over rows, no deadlifts.

Ronnie, Kai, JJ and Steve Goggins are anomalies I believe. Look at the other ones.
Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: Marty Champions on October 17, 2015, 03:48:08 PM
fuck off
hold your arms up for 5 minites for great tony freeman delt workout
Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: robcguns on October 17, 2015, 03:48:53 PM
Light weight training does nothing you get the same exercise from raking leaves

If youre gonna train all u need is a few heavy exercises to try to get stronger to chart progress if any

I think his physique speaks for itself.training heavy isnt all its cracked up to be.
Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on October 17, 2015, 03:58:03 PM
I think his physique speaks for itself.training heavy isnt all its cracked up to be.


Thank you. And Toney is older now. Has had TONS of years under the bar. Doesn't need to go heavy anymore.
Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: HTexan on October 17, 2015, 04:00:51 PM
Light weight training does nothing you get the same exercise from raking leaves

If youre gonna train all u need is a few heavy exercises to try to get stronger to chart progress if any
Because he is a bber not an athlete
Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: Marty Champions on October 17, 2015, 04:01:04 PM
Just doing static holds with a milkjug lol why even bother do people really think ur building doing that?
Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: WOOO on October 17, 2015, 04:03:12 PM
hold your arms up for 5 minites for great tony freeman delt workout


Add a pro cycle and BOOM


All drugs bro. You achieved max natural condition before most of these clowns found this board...
Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: Marty Champions on October 17, 2015, 04:06:01 PM

Add a pro cycle and BOOM


All drugs bro. You achieved max natural condition before most of these clowns found this board...
i was just as big as a pro but dwarfed them in person eating a pound of meat a day
Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: robcguns on October 17, 2015, 04:15:50 PM
i was just as big as a pro but dwarfed them in person eating a pound of meat a day

Ive seen your pics and you looked great but as far dearfing them,in height yes but thickness not even close.
Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: Marty Champions on October 17, 2015, 04:24:33 PM
Ive seen your pics and you looked great but as far dearfing them,in height yes but thickness not even close.
their thickness was always steroidish except flex at his peak was real muscle with steroidsbut he was so fucking short he was no bigger than a chunky girl flex weela is like a muscel toy action figure looks huge in a box but comparitivly he was nothin
Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: panos32 on October 17, 2015, 04:31:25 PM
lol this post reminded me of "the trainer"...is he still around? to share his retardation with us?
Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: jude2 on October 17, 2015, 04:57:03 PM
Because it works for him.  He is in his late 40's and looks great.
Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: Marty Champions on October 17, 2015, 04:59:02 PM
Because it works for him.  He is in his late 40's and looks great.
trust those light poundages are not whats working
Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: Azure on October 17, 2015, 05:05:09 PM
Because he still wants to be able to walk at 60.

I can't tell you the number of old guys who have had to have everything replaced becuase of too much wear and tear on the joints. Plus for hypertrophy many people believe in high rep training using lighter weights so you actually work the muscles you're trying to target

I see so much terrible form and BS range of motion  by people lifting heavy

Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: goku on October 17, 2015, 05:12:34 PM
he hasn't always trained like this, training got lighter as he got older to prevent injuries etc
hasn't put on size in years but has maintained it well.
Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: jude2 on October 17, 2015, 05:13:30 PM
trust those light poundages are not whats working
Missed with something is.
Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: michael arvilla on October 17, 2015, 05:50:32 PM
Because it (obviously) works for him!
Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: Disgusted on October 17, 2015, 08:43:47 PM
trust those light poundages are not whats working

And you assume it's the heavy lifting with the other steroid and drug uses?
Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: Davidtheman100 on October 17, 2015, 09:12:28 PM
Lifting heavy as you can with good form = best results.. because you're hitting the muscle correctly and it's at the max capacity you can do it...You're not challenging yourself as much if you aren't at your max capacity and going beyond failure in a set...Why would you ever need more than 1 working set if you've already torn down the muscle after an exercise?? Nothing is written in stone but just for the record: Charles Glass "pump workouts" never won anyone the olympia...
Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: deadz on October 17, 2015, 09:15:03 PM
Training heavy destroys joints. I did it for years and now continuing to do it may not be an option.
Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: Parker on October 17, 2015, 09:18:26 PM
Lifting heavy as you can with good form = best results.. because you're hitting the muscle correctly and it's at the max capacity you can do it...You're not challenging yourself as much if you aren't at your max capacity and going beyond failure in a set...Why would you ever need more than 1 working set if you've already torn down the muscle after an exercise?? Nothing is written in stone but just for the record: Charles Glass "pump workouts" never won anyone the olympia...
I believe Charles Glass was working with Dex in 2008. And Dex has won several Arnolds as well. Flex would have won the Mr. O in 1998,  had he come in his 98 Arnold shape. That had nothing to do with his training.
And Jay Cutler is a known pumper, and so is Phil Heath.
Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: Davidtheman100 on October 17, 2015, 09:21:16 PM
I believe Charles Glass was working with Dex in 2008. And Dex has won several Arnolds as well. Flex would have won the Mr. O in 1998,  had he come in his 98 Arnold shape. That had nothing to do with his training.
And Jay Cutler is a known pumper, and so is Phil Heath.

I don't know about that comment about Jay. Almost winning the olympia doesn't count..Arnolds don't count...Jays documentary says he always trains as heavy as possible... And I'm almost 100% sure that Dex hired Glass to train him AFTER he won 2008 mr olympia...In fact a couple years after i believe...
Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: DanM on October 17, 2015, 09:27:53 PM
He trains light because he has the genetic make up and heavy drug protocol to more than pick up the slack, training is far down on the list of importance in BBing these day. Either you have the genetics and are willing to take the boat load of drugs or you're nothing in the BBing world. All you have to do is stimulate the muscle any which way if you have those first two taken care of.
Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: Azure on October 17, 2015, 09:28:52 PM
Lifting heavy as you can with good form = best results.. because you're hitting the muscle correctly and it's at the max capacity you can do it...You're not challenging yourself as much if you aren't at your max capacity and going beyond failure in a set...Why would you ever need more than 1 working set if you've already torn down the muscle after an exercise?? Nothing is written in stone but just for the record: Charles Glass "pump workouts" never won anyone the olympia...

What about cutler and Heath? Neither of them train crazy heavy

Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: Davidtheman100 on October 17, 2015, 09:41:05 PM
What about cutler and Heath? Neither of them train crazy heavy



Doesn't matter if you're training a little lighter if you've been training for over 20 years on tons of AAS, GH + insulin...(in Phils case a lot of insulin) but if you've been lifting for a few years and are continuing to up your dosages + wanting to build size in limited off-season in the most efficient way possible...This is the way to do it...You can build the same amount of muscle with a little lighter and a few more reps per set...But i don't think it's ideal or it's optimal...Can get better results in literally a shorter period of time this way...Less reps, less gym time, more rest, more growth.
Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: dj181 on October 17, 2015, 10:08:18 PM
he can now coz he built all his size from heavy training years before and now he's just maintaining what he built from that heavy hard training, which is i fact a hell of alot easier than gaining and doesn't require nearly as much effort
Title: Re: why does toney freeman train light
Post by: Parker on October 18, 2015, 12:28:52 AM
I don't know about that comment about Jay. Almost winning the olympia doesn't count..Arnolds don't count...Jays documentary says he always trains as heavy as possible... And I'm almost 100% sure that Dex hired Glass to train him AFTER he won 2008 mr olympia...In fact a couple years after i believe...
There have been Jay's vids posted on here. Jay is a pumper...his chest workouts, etc. And his back workouts are laughable---there is a meme on here for his lack pull up ability, but that is different.
Jay's "heavy as possible" is a misnomer, it should be "heavy as i want to go that day to get a pump"