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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: pestosterone on November 18, 2015, 10:33:02 AM
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Met a guy in the gym he'said almost 40 about 5 ft 10 and had to b close to 260 lbs well under 15% body fat. He was lifting light light. I spoke to him for a few minutes. Ended up telling me he had a defibrillator hooked to his heart, which he raised his shirt to show me and he had congestive heart failure. He blasted gear for 6 years non stop he said the lowest he went to was a gram of test weekly but majority of the time he was on high dosages 3 grams was about his normal he told me. He ran tren e and para alot as well.
Also another guy in his mid 50s he is n there everyday has had a stroke and limps now also gear related.
Just thought I would share to you all.the first guy almost 40 he said he never got blood work and never used caution with juice, until his chest started hurting legs swelled up and went to the ER now here he is big as fuck but has a box hooked to his body so his heart doesn't stop. Said he's not even supposed to b near a gym DR's orders.
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I have a friend that doesn't eat spaghetti.
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I have a friend that doesn't eat spaghetti.
LOL!
But his doses were kinda asking for it...
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I have a friend that doesn't eat spaghetti.
That's common in the homosexual community
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That's common in the homosexual community
yeah, they wont put limp noodles in their mouth
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That's common in the homosexual community
Keep the cool stories coming bro.
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The body can take a lot of abuse when you are young. Past a certain age then you better slow the fuck down because you will pay it right away.
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Yea I have another friend who knows him a little better or we'll he bangs his ex wife.... anyway she said he was into meth coke drank alot and smoked about 2 packs a day
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Yea I have another friend who knows him a little better or we'll he bangs his ex wife.... anyway she said he was into meth coke drank alot and smoked about 2 packs a day
This is pretty relevant, perhaps worth mentioning in the original post!
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Just found out when I talked to him few hours ago or i would've put it in the op
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Honestly anybody who doesn't get regular blood work is asking for problems. And blasting non stop for years is a horrible idea. I wonder what his diet was like? Not to be rude but I wouldn't be suprised if he was one of those guys who ate T-bone steaks every night for more mass. I forget what pro bodybuilder it was that ate like 5 steaks a day and had a heart attack.
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Honestly anybody who doesn't get regular blood work is asking for problems. And blasting non stop for years is a horrible idea. I wonder what his diet was like? Not to be rude but I wouldn't be suprised if he was one of those guys who ate T-bone steaks every night for more mass. I forget what pro bodybuilder it was that ate like 5 steaks a day and had a heart attack.
I think you're thinking of Mike Matarazzo who ate about 5lbs of red meat per day. I doubt this had much to do with his heart failure at all, but it was a decent excuse. Genetics play a huge role and when you're using steroids you absolutely must keep an eye on your blood work (even if it's just annually), blood pressure and an occasional ECG doesn't hurt either. Beyond that, weighing over say 230lbs year round, even if you're lean, in the long run is bound to stress the heart. Common sense.
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Adding more muscle than your body is supposed to have isn't healthy
But
If you ask enough aspirin users you will find some with cancer, cardiovascular disease, or even death
One story isn't the end all cause
But come on.....we all know we are playing with fire
Screw it, this is getbig: the op didn't even die for us bitches
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i know a guy that did a ton of coke and steroids pretty much non stop from the mid 80s until 2011 and it killed him right away
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i know a guy that did a ton of coke and steroids pretty much non stop from the mid 80s until 2011 and it killed him right away
living the dream
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i know a guy that did a ton of coke and steroids pretty much non stop from the mid 80s until 2011 and it killed him right away
Lol. Went right over heads. Good one
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I know 4 guys who had heart problems before 40yo due to steroids. One is dead, two had heart attacks, and the last one is waitting for surgery, in order to keep lifting the 45's and juicing.
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One guy I know had a heart attack in his late 30's due to gear. He also blew out his quads squatting on the smith machine. It was brutal witnessing him on the floor after being injured.
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I know 4 guys who had heart problems before 40yo due to steroids. One is dead, two had heart attacks, and the last one is waitting for surgery, in order to keep lifting the 45's and juicing.
How do you know if it was due to steroids? Were these guys advance bbers?
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How do you know if it was due to steroids? Were these guys advance bbers?
They were all users, some more than others. Only advanced in the gymrat level, if that. Over here (mediterranean diet) it's very uncommon to die from heart attack at 37yo.
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How do you know if it was due to steroids? Were these guys advance bbers?
Guy the thread is about was competitor in BB and also powerlifting
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Men's Health just had a 'T' article. Studies cited 25% having cardiac episodes in 4 years of HRT.
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Men's Health just had a 'T' article. Studies cited 25% having cardiac episodes in 4 years of HRT.
25% seems damn high. I wonder how they got those stats...
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25% seems damn high. I wonder how they got those stats...
I will get more info next week. Guy at work has the magazine. The article referenced several studies.
As some have mentioned here, I think it's advisable to exercise caution at advanced age. When you're say 50 +, isn't the best time to have cholesterol out of wack and thick blood from excess RBC, etc.
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I will get more info next week. Guy at work has the magazine. The article referenced several studies.
As some have mentioned here, I think it's advisable to exercise caution at advanced age. When you're say 50 +, isn't the best time to have cholesterol out of wack and thick blood from excess RBC, etc.
keep us posted!
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99% of all north americans that have died in the last 89 years have eaten carrots. fkn scary!!!
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Men's Health just had a 'T' article. Studies cited 25% having cardiac episodes in 4 years of HRT.
umm. i dont believe that at all. source?
youre probably talking about a 25% INCREASED RISK.
if 25% of people on TRT had cardiac episodes within 4 years - then TRT would certainly NOT be medical practise in the US. no way.
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Does using bunk gear have anything to do with all that?
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Low testosterone is bad for your heart people seem to forget that. The government turned down a study that was going to involve a big enough test group to actually know what trt did to peoples body's not to long ago because it cost to much. I know for a fact having low testosterone is way worse for you than being on TRT. I wrote about it in college before and had to have sources and all that. One thing I learned was that most guys who start trt are older men already with a increased risk of heart problems and were usually unhealthy to begin with.
As long as you don't get over 1000ng/dl and you monitor blood work you should be fine if your living a healthy life style. Once your in your 60's or 70's it could be a good preventive measure to keep your levels around 600ng/dl though considering the body is not suppose to be at 1000ng/dl at 70 years old.
I wouldn't believe all the negativity about TRT or trust mens fitness about it. Until we get a real mass population long term study done on people who only use trt , and are in good health to begin with no one will have the full idea of what it does to your body.
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Low testosterone is bad for your heart people seem to forget that. The government turned down a study that was going to involve a big enough test group to actually know what trt did to peoples body's not to long ago because it cost to much. I know for a fact having low testosterone is way worse for you than being on TRT. I wrote about it in college before and had to have sources and all that. One thing I learned was that most guys who start trt are older men already with a increased risk of heart problems and were usually unhealthy to begin with.
As long as you don't get over 1000ng/dl and you monitor blood work you should be fine if your living a healthy life style. Once your in your 60's or 70's it could be a good preventive measure to keep your levels around 600ng/dl though considering the body is not suppose to be at 1000ng/dl at 70 years old.
I wouldn't believe all the negativity about TRT or trust mens fitness about it. Until we get a real mass population long term study done on people who only use trt , and are in good health to begin with no one will have the full idea of what it does to your body.
I don't believe they stopped the study. my guess is they finished it, and the results were paradoxical to their theories and intentions.
no one whether a company or branch of govt. is required to release the results of a study if it does not agree with their agenda.
and with those blood levels you are talking about, what would be needed to be injected weekly to maintain those levels?
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I have a feeling you already know and are testing me because I've seen your picture's before and you were in great shape lol but I could be paranoid. Everybody responds to testosterone injections differently I've seen some people who need a lot higher levels of testosterone injected to get to 1000ng/dl than other people. But 100mg's a week would get somebody to around 650ng/dl give or take, and 120 mg's would result in probably 900ng/dl. I'm basing those total testosterone numbers off of somebody who would inject every 3.5 days. But I know a guy who is on TRT and has to inject a lot more than the average person to get in the 900ng/dl-1000ng/dl range I don't remember how much he was injecting though I think it might have been like 200mg's a week. I couldn't really say a solid answer for what amounts would get somebody to what level because every one is different, but the numbers I stated are a pretty good estimate in my opinion. The numbers are based off of some blood work I have seen.
Also it depends on how the person does there TRT injections if they inject once every 2 weeks there levels will be sky high in the very beginning then slowly decrease when they get to the 2 week point. I just started TRT at 150mg's a week so I don't know what my total testosterone will be when I go into the doctors yet. I have been studying about it for years though. I forgot a lot of stuff because I didn't keep up on reading about TRT and steroids for about 2 years but I refreshed my memory over the last couple weeks with at least 24 hours of brushing up on things, and everything's starting to come back to me now. What do you think my levels would come back as injecting a total of 150mgs a week divided into two dosages? I'm guessing my testosterone levels will be around 1000ng/dl. Lol I'm going to go to a private lab first and get my tests done before going back to my doctor so if it is to high I can lower my dosages and keep the extra gear.
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umm. i dont believe that at all. source?
youre probably talking about a 25% INCREASED RISK.
if 25% of people on TRT had cardiac episodes within 4 years - then TRT would certainly NOT be medical practise in the US. no way.
I will get more info Monday, including the studies cited. I do believe the study with 25% cardiac events was on a pretty old group.
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Guy the thread is about was competitor in BB and also powerlifting
I was responding to Falco, which is why I quoted his post. He was talking about 4 different guys on steroids with no mention of how advance they were.
Try to keep up.