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That's how it's done.
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His knees must be made of steel to withstand such nasty form.
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His knees must be made of steel to withstand such nasty form.
Nasty form? ??? It's called full reps ::)
Problem is hardly anyone has ever seen anyone doing real squats these days, so they think those shabby quarter reps wiggling good morning hybrid is how a perfect squat is supposed to look like :D
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Clarence Kennedy, Ireland's best Olympic lifting hopeful -
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OVERKILL!
I like this guy!
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This is the only picture you need:
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l142/thinlizzy21/334a31d33764498c84e8fe73dee58715_zps9ka3c3yz.jpg) (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/thinlizzy21/media/334a31d33764498c84e8fe73dee58715_zps9ka3c3yz.jpg.html)
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Clarence Kennedy, Ireland's best Olympic lifting hopeful -
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not an expert on these powerlifting lifts but looks very good. Oldtimer1 (Rich)opinion ? I like to do clean and press but i am sure my form is not what a powerlifter would maybe call good form. Looks like a great talent good luck to him.
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Just break parralell,and don`t do curtsys like the retards in todays gyms.
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I've been following this guy on various site since 5/6 years, there's no way you'll see him in an official contest. He's a gym hero, period.
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Those are great squats,but not everyone has the flexabilty or the lower back integrity to do them.
Anybody who doesn`t break paralell,gets zero credit from me,and trust me,most at my gym are in the zero credit range! ;D
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Just break parralell,and don`t do curtsys like the retards in todays gyms.
Absolutely. Anything below that is counter productive for bodybuilding.
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I was taught to squat by none other than Kevin Tolbert.
Our gauge was always tops of thighs parallel to the floor, which most certainly breaks "parallel".
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I remember on a seminar they told us that squating slightly below parallel was better because the overall shear stress against your Patella was more spread. Talking about cartilage here.
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not an expert on these powerlifting lifts but looks very good. Oldtimer1 (Rich)opinion ? I like to do clean and press but i am sure my form is not what a powerlifter would maybe call good form. Looks like a great talent good luck to him.
Clean and press isn't powerlifting.
And you call yourself a trainer. ::)
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Clean and press isn't powerlifting.
And you call yourself a trainer. ::)
Clean and press are a fundamental full Body movement which originated in Powerlifting. The Hang clean. power clean were definitely used by Grimmick . Who also competed as a bodybuilder or do you disagree?
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Here's a radical idea for saving your knees and your lower back when squatting. Don't use more weight than you can handle for 12 perfect form reps.
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Here's a radical idea for saving your knees and your lower back when squatting. Don't use more weight than you can handle for 12 perfect form reps.
broscience
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Those are great squats,but not everyone has the flexabilty or the lower back integrity to do them.
Anybody who doesn`t break paralell,gets zero credit from me,and trust me,most at my gym are in the zero credit range! ;D
Exactly, holy fuck are people stupid.
'ppl who dont go down all the way are lazy' ::) ::) ::)
Based on ANY GYM IVE EVER BEEN TO, I'd say the percentage of average, male gymgoers who have the ability to do a decent squat is about 2.
Clarence squats super deep because he's super flexible. He does o lifting because he has the flexibility and inherent musculature for it. He didnt have to stretch or practice technique for years to get there, either, and the average guy trying to copy him will fail miserably.
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Just watching someone squat isn't called a 'lesson'. You need someone who's capable to explain things step-by-step, and then show you how it's done. Chris Duffin is one of them..
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Clean and press are a fundamental full Body movement which originated in Powerlifting Olympic Weightlifting. The Hang clean. power clean were definitely used by Grimmick . Who also competed as a bodybuilder or do you disagree?
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Looks like total shit, don't care.
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Nasty form? ??? It's called full reps ::)
Problem is hardly anyone has ever seen anyone doing real squats these days, so they think those shabby quarter reps wiggling good morning hybrid is how a perfect squat is supposed to look like :D
And how is exactly does this form serve the average gym rat or even competitive bodybuilder who wants bigger legs? There are plenty of men who have built enormous legs without this knee-shattering and back-breaking form. No, I am not talking about quarter rep squats, but rather squats to or NEAR parallel. That's enough depth to build thick quads. Actually I know some men who said their quads took a hit when they started going down further than parallel because tension comes off the quads a bit when one goes that deep.
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Get ready for a "What's the name of your gym?" message in your inbox
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Midget squats of peace.
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Get ready for a "What's the name of your gym?" message in your inbox
LOL ;D
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And how is exactly does this form serve the average gym rat or even competitive bodybuilder who wants bigger legs? There are plenty of men who have built enormous legs without this knee-shattering and back-breaking form. No, I am not talking about quarter rep squats, but rather squats to or NEAR parallel. That's enough depth to build thick quads. Actually I know some men who said their quads took a hit when they started going down further than parallel because tension comes off the quads a bit when one goes that deep.
How is his form 'knee shattering' and 'back-breaking'? Serious question, I always felt stopping high was HARDER on both.
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That's impressive. Very good squat, strong as fuck, and a pause at the bottom. Unfortunately in almost any gym you go to, if people even squat, it's just pathetic form. Going down maybe halfway, bent over. Just awful. Load the bar up with 4 plates, go down 3 inches, think they accomplished something, and have sticks for legs.
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How is his form 'knee shattering' and 'back-breaking'? Serious question, I always felt stopping high was HARDER on both.
OK, you got me, lol. I was being a bit dramatic, considering some of the talk about anyone who doesn't go ass-to-grass as not doing them correctly. I too have felt more tension on the knees if I go too high. I have a sweet spot I get to, which is a tad above parallel, in which my knees and back feel fine. People have different anatomical setups, as I am sure you know.
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Nasty form? ??? It's called full reps ::)
Problem is hardly anyone has ever seen anyone doing real squats these days, so they think those shabby quarter reps wiggling good morning hybrid is how a perfect squat is supposed to look like :D
Main problem here is and has always been a stupidity of those who you are talking to, and here is perfect example. They see a video about the squat which shows a good form to do it, and they doesn't even recognize it to be a same technique, which was used for example by Tom Platz. Nasty Form? In fact, your knees will be fine, and the upright posture makes the weight more easier to handle for your back, but the most important tip in the video is the shoes. He has weight lifting shoes, made for the squat, and squat only. Some of the people buy these shoes to use them as a training shoes, and that shows their intelligence for everybody to see. Training shoes has to be flat and flexible, squat shoes has to be stiff and with raised heels. It is all about the ergonomy of the movement, but because these guys doesn't know what it means, it is useless to explain any further ;D
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Most people don't naturally have to flexibility to squat correctly.
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Most people don't naturally have to flexibility to squat correctly.
So that means most of the people has to have some kind of disabilities, knees bending backwards etc. or massive overweight as a reason why it is so. What you are saying is just bullshit. Most of the people are too lazy to stretch, period. If everyone would use same range of motion as they are able to use with the broomstick as they squat, everybody would squat correctly. Mostly it is the weight which force them to use only partial ROM, because weight boosts your ego better than deep squat ;D
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For thousands of years, before the advent of the toilet, people took dumps in a deep squatting position.
It's obviously perfectly natural to squat well below parallel. The problem is the squat rack. It allows people to lift way more than is smart. How many hip surgeries is Ronnie up to?
IMO, people would be better off long term to squat with a weight that they could get onto their backs if they had to lift it up from the ground.
BTW, I personally saw Arnold, in his 40s, squatting. He did sets of 12-15 with 135.
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Great depth/strength, but is sitting/relaxing in the hole like that a good thing?
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so many pussies in here who cant squat for shit..."lack of flexibility, femurs too long" bullshit!!!! lack of testicular fortitude is what it comes down to.....people don't squat atg because its hard!!! plain and simple!!
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so many pussies in here who cant squat for shit..."lack of flexibility, femurs too long" bullshit!!!! lack of testicular fortitude is what it comes down to.....people don't squat atg because its hard!!! plain and simple!!
Not always. I have had a few knee surgeries which have hindered my ROM. That said, horses for courses. I can still get a good pump from going to parallel and not locking out at the top.
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So that means most of the people has to have some kind of disabilities, knees bending backwards etc. or massive overweight as a reason why it is so. What you are saying is just bullshit. Most of the people are too lazy to stretch, period. If everyone would use same range of motion as they are able to use with the broomstick as they squat, everybody would squat correctly. Mostly it is the weight which force them to use only partial ROM, because weight boosts your ego better than deep squat ;D
I've never seen someone squat full depth without butt wink. I had to spend a lot of time doing hip stretches before I could.
What I'm saying is not bullshit, you're just an idiot.
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I've never seen someone squat full depth without butt wink. I had to spend a lot of time doing hip stretches before I could.
What I'm saying is not bullshit, you're just an idiot.
I have seen it, and in fact, just about any girl can do it, because they doesn't lift for ego. Men usually need some stretching for gluteus and hamstrings, which I know is next to impossible for average gymrat. I am not an idiot, it only seem to be that way at your point of view, because you are too stupid to understand things I tell you ;D
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Most people don't naturally have to flexibility to squat correctly.
Maybe they should work on their flexibility then? ???
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so many pussies in here who cant squat for shit..."lack of flexibility, femurs too long" bullshit!!!! lack of testicular fortitude is what it comes down to.....people don't squat atg because its hard!!! plain and simple!!
And it's the cardio that causes most of the distress. When you get up into the 8-15 rep range, the lactate builds up in the quads, and the heart and lungs have to work double time to clear it.
I notice this with running too. I can run all day on a flat surface at a jogging pace, but if I hit a pretty steep hill, the quads have to work and I start huffing and puffing and feel like stopping.
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I recently saw a video of myself squatting, my depth looks greater from the front than the back. I go as deep as my body will allow but I'll never be able get my ass to the ground.
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I recently saw a video of myself squatting, my depth looks greater from the front than the back. I go as deep as my body will allow but I'll never be able get my ass to the ground.
A full squat will put your ass about a foot from the ground.
Jay is an outstanding squatter:
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l142/thinlizzy21/584c4f2e6d3c632c9740806d4307af03_zpsoyoj8q04.jpg) (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/thinlizzy21/media/584c4f2e6d3c632c9740806d4307af03_zpsoyoj8q04.jpg.html)
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I have seen it, and in fact, just about any girl can do it, because they doesn't lift for ego. Men usually need some stretching for gluteus and hamstrings, which I know is next to impossible for average gymrat. I am not an idiot, it only seem to be that way at your point of view, because you are too stupid to understand things I tell you ;D
that's what I said in the first place.
And you said it was bullshit.
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I did Zercher squats today because of my neck problem.. looks strange but you really feel it.
http://boxlifemagazine.com/the-zercher-squat-the-most-underrated-squat/
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Not always. I have had a few knee surgeries which have hindered my ROM. That said, horses for courses. I can still get a good pump from going to parallel and not locking out at the top.
reconstructed my ACL in 2009....today I can squat 4 plates ATG beltless for 10 reps...excuses are like assholes
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Great depth/strength, but is sitting/relaxing in the hole like that a good thing?
It builds great power coming out of the hole,especially with the pause at the bottom, but going that deep is certantly not necessary when cometing in a powerlifting meet.
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It builds great power coming out of the hole,especially with the pause at the bottom, but going that deep is certantly not necessary when cometing in a powerlifting meet.
no homo.
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no homo.
Proof ? ;D
Just fucking with you bud! LOL ;D
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I did Zercher squats today because of my neck problem.. looks strange but you really feel it.
http://boxlifemagazine.com/the-zercher-squat-the-most-underrated-squat/
And don't forget your mental problems
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And don't forget your mental problems
well you know the expression "Butt Hurt" ..well in your case it really does apply.
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I did Zercher squats today because of my neck problem.. looks strange but you really feel it.
http://boxlifemagazine.com/the-zercher-squat-the-most-underrated-squat/
Feel it the biceps and forearms.
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Feel it the biceps and forearms.
I find standard squats too painful at the moment so i am looking at old ideas, not a bad thing. I did leg press before it and i did not use heavy weight but did 20 reps per set. I see the use of this lift though for you strength orientated competitors.
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For thousands of years, before the advent of the toilet, people took dumps in a deep squatting position.
It's obviously perfectly natural to squat well below parallel. The problem is the squat rack. It allows people to lift way more than is smart. How many hip surgeries is Ronnie up to?
IMO, people would be better off long term to squat with a weight that they could get onto their backs if they had to lift it up from the ground.
BTW, I personally saw Arnold, in his 40s, squatting. He did sets of 12-15 with 135.
Squatting to take a shit is not the same as squatting with 4-500lbs resting on your back.
I'm starting to think more and more that very heavy weights like that are not good long term. I think we're gonna see a change in trends in how we regard the squat and how heavy a person should go for long term joint health.
I have part of my neck that is affected by this from doing heavy squats for over a decade. Not stretching did not help my cause either but still....
Some just posted about Zercher squats and find that is one of most fuckin retarded shit ever seen. No idea they had those gimmick movements way back in the day....
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A full squat will put your ass about a foot from the ground.
Jay is an outstanding squatter:
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l142/thinlizzy21/584c4f2e6d3c632c9740806d4307af03_zpsoyoj8q04.jpg) (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/thinlizzy21/media/584c4f2e6d3c632c9740806d4307af03_zpsoyoj8q04.jpg.html)
Wow 365 pounds, 1.3 times bodyweight really is outstanding for a natural guy like him.
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Squatting to take a shit is not the same as squatting with 4-500lbs resting on your back.
I'm starting to think more and more that very heavy weights like that are not good long term. I think we're gonna see a change in trends in how we regard the squat and how heavy a person should go for long term joint health.
I have part of my neck that is affected by this from doing heavy squats for over a decade. Not stretching did not help my cause either but still....
Some just posted about Zercher squats and find that is one of most fuckin retarded shit ever seen. No idea they had those gimmick movements way back in the day....
Zercher squat is a good lift and not retarded. Jefferson lift is also a Gem from the old Days. True it is uncomfortable with a Heavy weight and a padded bar is better for us pussies but gives a great training effect.
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I find standard squats too painful at the moment so i am looking at old ideas, not a bad thing. I did leg press before it and i did not use heavy weight but did 20 reps per set. I see the use of this lift though for you strength orientated competitors.
They hurt me more than it was worth it to say I could do them. Maybe lighter is better.
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Squatting to take a shit is not the same as squatting with 4-500lbs resting on your back.
I'm starting to think more and more that very heavy weights like that are not good long term. I think we're gonna see a change in trends in how we regard the squat and how heavy a person should go for long term joint health.
I have part of my neck that is affected by this from doing heavy squats for over a decade. Not stretching did not help my cause either but still....
Some just posted about Zercher squats and find that is one of most fuckin retarded shit ever seen. No idea they had those gimmick movements way back in the day....
Squatting heavy is idiotic unless you're training for a specific event.
99.9% of guys who load up squat racks are delusional and fancy themselves as "Elite Athletes." They're not. They're just guys who work out.
Deep squats are perfectly natural. Doing them with 315 or more digging into your traps is not.
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They hurt me more than it was worth it to say I could do them. Maybe lighter is better.
yes i agree not a Heavy lift like back squats but good training effect.
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I find standard squats too painful at the moment so i am looking at old ideas, not a bad thing. I did leg press before it and i did not use heavy weight but did 20 reps per set. I see the use of this lift though for you strength orientated competitors.
were's the pain? safetybar\front squats not an option? maybe some sort of box squat?
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Squatting heavy is idiotic unless you're training for a specific event.
99.9% of guys who load up squat racks are delusional and fancy themselves as "Elite Athletes." They're not. They're just guys who work out.
Deep squats are perfectly natural. Doing them with 315 or more digging into your traps is not.
Why is squatting heavy any different than doing other exercises with heavy weight?
You may be confusing squatting heavy with squatting poorly.
I still squat (relatively) heavy with good form and no discomfort.
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were's the pain? safetybar\front squats not an option? maybe some sort of box squat?
I have a C6/7 problem in my neck. Front squats i do like but last time i did them i felt too much pressure on my neck. I mean a pressure i know that is not good for my problem. lowering the weight to a lower than shoulder height suits my needs and is pain free.
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I have a C6/7 problem in my neck. Front squats i do like but last time i did them i felt too much pressure on my neck. I mean a pressure i know that is not good for my problem. lowering the weight to a lower than shoulder height suits my needs and is pain free.
oh, did i miss something isnt the obvious answer just change to lowbar?
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oh, did i miss something isnt the obvious answer just change to lowbar?
Still too much pressure on the neck. The position in front of my body Cradling the weight works good. C6 and C7 are lower neck.
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Why is squatting heavy any different than doing other exercises with heavy weight?
You may be confusing squatting heavy with squatting poorly.
I still squat (relatively) heavy with good form and no discomfort.
Yeah, you're right. Heavy benching is just as idiotic. How many guys are walking around with messed up shoulders and torn pecs from years of benching? And for what?
MMA has exposed this type of training. The world has seen what real functional athletes look like: Luke Rockhold.
I got my lesson in 1996, when 175lb Renzo Gracie tooled my 215lb ass like a play toy, day after day.
I never thought about benching the same way again.
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So that means most of the people has to have some kind of disabilities, knees bending backwards etc. or massive overweight as a reason why it is so. What you are saying is just bullshit. Most of the people are too lazy to stretch, period. If everyone would use same range of motion as they are able to use with the broomstick as they squat, everybody would squat correctly. Mostly it is the weight which force them to use only partial ROM, because weight boosts your ego better than deep squat ;D
Most people can't do a proper squat with a broomstick. Whether that can be fixed with stretching, I don't know. I've tried to squat properly for over a decade, still can't do it.
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Most people can't do a proper squat with a broomstick. Whether that can be fixed with stretching, I don't know. I've tried to squat properly for over a decade, still can't do it.
the real test is an oh squat. if you cant do one of those dont bother till you can. mobility work will absolutely improve your squat
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I have seen it, and in fact, just about any girl can do it, because they doesn't lift for ego. Men usually need some stretching for gluteus and hamstrings, which I know is next to impossible for average gymrat. I am not an idiot, it only seem to be that way at your point of view, because you are too stupid to understand things I tell you ;D
Most girls can do it because they have dramatically different hip anatomy.
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Wow 365 pounds, 1.3 times bodyweight really is outstanding for a natural guy like him.
And that 365 is a lot lighter in the smith machine than free weight squat.
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Most people can't do a proper squat with a broomstick. Whether that can be fixed with stretching, I don't know. I've tried to squat properly for over a decade, still can't do it.
I never had a natural motion for squatting, over the years it has become much better.
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You sit down, you stand up. How hard is that ???
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Most people can't do a proper squat with a broomstick. Whether that can be fixed with stretching, I don't know. I've tried to squat properly for over a decade, still can't do it.
Neither could I, I needed weight to be able to be straight. No idea why, but it's just like that.
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Neither could I, I needed weight to be able to be straight. No idea why, but it's just like that.
Yep, same here. I need at least 95 on the bar, and a plate before it starts to look 'acceptable'.
So many 'natural squatters' simply don't get it. They can just sit down and stand up, as chaos said. You see it all the time: some girl squatting down to pick up a can off the bottom rack of the grocery aisle, ass to ankles, probably never set foot in a gym. I would KILL to be able to do that, but I can't. Trade bodies with me for a day and you won't believe what happens when you 'sit down'... Your body simply doesnt cooperate. Oh no, what do you do now? You wouldn't have a clue, I'm sure.
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Someone please help my dumb ass with this video (Thank you). This old busted cat seems to squat fairly clean. Video shot last Saturday in a USPA competition.
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Someone please help my dumb ass with this video (Thank you). This old busted cat seems to squat fairly clean. Video shot last Saturday in a USPA competition.
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Thank you very much
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That is a picture perfect squat. And, yes, that is how it is done. But that does not mean everyone can do that.
Just like I know what a picture perfect snatch is or a flawless balance beam performance, but there is no way in hell I could do movements like that.
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That is a picture perfect squat. And, yes, that is how it is done. But that does not mean everyone can do that.
Just like I know what a picture perfect snatch is or a flawless balance beam performance, but there is no way in hell I could do movements like that.
Not Denise Masinos.
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I find standard squats too painful at the moment so i am looking at old ideas, not a bad thing. I did leg press before it and i did not use heavy weight but did 20 reps per set. I see the use of this lift though for you strength orientated competitors.
Painfull? Your balls hit the ground and it hurts? Every other scenario means that you are doing something wrong. Here you have a best advises about the matter:
I would add that it is always a good idea to warm up your knees before the exercises by doing couple of sets of seated leg extensions, using tiny weight and lot of reps, stretching the front thigh carefully between the sets and between every set after that. Lot of reps means something like 70 - 100 reps, and tiny weight = something you are able to do 100 reps. I usually use 50 - 70 lb for that. It doesn't take anything from your thighs but it do wonders for your knee. Many of the lifters are suffering with too tight patellar tendons, so by doing that warm up and stretches you speed up the metabolism of the tissue of the tendons, and it will end your problems with the knees if you have any..
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Thank you very much
Nice lift Tom.....that`s about the same depth I hit.
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Hell, I don't think I could do 70-100 reps on the squat with no weight at all let alone light weight.
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You sit down, you stand up. How hard is that ???
You're not in your fifties yet.
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Hell, I don't think I could do 70-100 reps on the squat with no weight at all let alone light weight.
My guess is that most Bodybuilders would be a crumpled heap on the floor after a set of 50, full body, bodyweight squats.
It's true that squats are a full body exercise, but not if you have a barbell on your back which turns the upper body into a stabilizing mechanism.
Consider why you would squat in nature, either to pick something up off the ground, or to explode off the ground to grab something out of your reach, like a piece of hanging fruit. Neither of those has your hands up by your ears on the descent.
Your arms would be down and back, then brought up and forward powerfully for an explosive move.
That's why sprinters have good upper bodies.
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This place... ::) :D
Smith machine squats aren't really squats, Clean & Press are Olympic lifts, not Powerlifts, most Getbiggers don't know who the legendary Strength Coach Kevin Tolbert is.
"Grimmick" Grimek was an "O lifter" not a Powerlifter.
Tolbert
(http://info.rogersathletic.com/Portals/51266/images/kevin.JPG)
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My guess is that most Bodybuilders would be a crumpled heap on the floor after a set of 50, full body, bodyweight squats.
It's true that squats are a full body exercise, but not if you have a barbell on your back which turns the upper body into a stabilizing mechanism.
Consider why you would squat in nature, either to pick something up off the ground, or to explode off the ground to grab something out of your reach, like a piece of hanging fruit. Neither of those has your hands up by your ears on the descent.
Your arms would be down and back, then brought up and forward powerfully for an explosive move.
That's why sprinters have good upper bodies.
Even though I hate them, I always do dead lifts (both knuckles facing away from me). I consider it the most functional movement you can do with a barbell. Barbell curls is another functional movement
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Painfull? Your balls hit the ground and it hurts? Every other scenario means that you are doing something wrong. Here you have a best advises about the matter:
I would add that it is always a good idea to warm up your knees before the exercises by doing couple of sets of seated leg extensions, using tiny weight and lot of reps, stretching the front thigh carefully between the sets and between every set after that. Lot of reps means something like 70 - 100 reps, and tiny weight = something you are able to do 100 reps. I usually use 50 - 70 lb for that. It doesn't take anything from your thighs but it do wonders for your knee. Many of the lifters are suffering with too tight patellar tendons, so by doing that warm up and stretches you speed up the metabolism of the tissue of the tendons, and it will end your problems with the knees if you have any..
No i have a C6/7 disc problem talking about the position of the Bar.
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lots of fake training experts that don't know what an Olympic lift is in this thread
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you mean powerlifting?
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fatmc should save all the hot air for his training.. he has to lose at least 20 kilos before March :-\
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fatmc should save all the hot air for his training.. he has to lose at least 20 kilos before March :-\
tell you what lets post pics holding up todays paper
I bet you a grand in sterling against 200 euros of yours
that im in better shape than you are 8)
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tell you what lets post pics holding up todays paper
I bet you a grand in sterling against 200 euros of yours
that im in better shape than you are 8)
you make sure you are in shape for March.
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coward
real men are talking here boy
keep out the thread unless you can back any of your nonsense up
you called me out Ginger.. so you make sure you can back it up in Hannover.
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i think we will leave it there for Today Ginger.. you are acting like a child.
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Even though I hate them, I always do dead lifts (both knuckles facing away from me). I consider it the most functional movement you can do with a barbell. Barbell curls is another functional movement
Deadlifts give me wood.
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Nice lift Tom.....that`s about the same depth I hit.
Thanks Wes. It felt good. I hadn't competed in several years and it was nice to get back on the platform.
Gym, competition, Muscle Beach weight pit- whenever I squat my depth is always the same I believe. Flat back, neutral chin position, big breath of air at the top. It seems to work nicely.
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This place... ::) :D
Smith machine squats aren't really squats, Clean & Press are Olympic lifts, not Powerlifts, most Getbiggers don't know who the legendary Strength Coach Kevin Tolbert is.
"Grimmick" Grimek was an "O lifter" not a Powerlifter.
Tolbert
(http://info.rogersathletic.com/Portals/51266/images/kevin.JPG)
Do you really enjoy about that nitpicking? So if it isn't a squat, what is it? Let me see, you have the weight on your shoulders, you bend your knees until your ass is far below the parallel...well, that is the handbook definition of the squat, but of course you know better..
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Does this look like he's doing his lower back any favors?
Anyone over 30 should cringe looking at this pic.
As far as his form, the force of the excessive weight is driving him downward past normal squat range of motion, overstressing his knees and lower back. On the way up, the excessive weight is causing his knees to buckle and his lower back/hip hinge to bend too far forward, also overstressing his knees and lower back. The cherry on top is the bar digging into to his cervical vertebrae which could result in nerve or disk damage.
This is strictly working out for the young and dumb.
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I have a C6/7 problem in my neck. Front squats i do like but last time i did them i felt too much pressure on my neck. I mean a pressure i know that is not good for my problem. lowering the weight to a lower than shoulder height suits my needs and is pain free.
Same here. This has helped a lot, but if I squat over 250 with it, it feels awkward and unbalanced.
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Thanks Wes. It felt good. I hadn't competed in several years and it was nice to get back on the platform.
Gym, competition, Muscle Beach weight pit- whenever I squat my depth is always the same I believe. Flat back, neutral chin position, big breath of air at the top. It seems to work nicely.
That`s how I do them too,but I don`t go real heavy these days..........just enough to kick my ass,but no heavy triples,singles or stuff like that............my back rebels if I do.
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Does this look like he's doing his lower back any favors?
Anyone over 30 should cringe looking at this pic.
As far as his form, the force of the excessive weight is driving him downward past normal squat range of motion, overstressing his knees and lower back. On the way up, the excessive weight is causing his knees to buckle and his lower back/hip hinge to bend too far forward, also overstressing his knees and lower back. The cherry on top is the bar digging into to his cervical vertebrae which could result in nerve or disk damage.
This is strictly working out for the young and dumb.
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l142/thinlizzy21/fa71526ca5fc942d5a114f94fc14bc49_zpsufhyjohv.jpg)
What is normal squat range of motion?
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Does this look like he's doing his lower back any favors?
Anyone over 30 should cringe looking at this pic.
As far as his form, the force of the excessive weight is driving him downward past normal squat range of motion, overstressing his knees and lower back. On the way up, the excessive weight is causing his knees to buckle and his lower back/hip hinge to bend too far forward, also overstressing his knees and lower back. The cherry on top is the bar digging into to his cervical vertebrae which could result in nerve or disk damage.
This is strictly working out for the young and dumb.
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l142/thinlizzy21/fa71526ca5fc942d5a114f94fc14bc49_zpsufhyjohv.jpg)
Exactly. On a couple of reps it seemed to me he was lifting with his back instead of driving his hips up.
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What is normal squat range of motion?
I say this in all seriousness.
It's the distance your ass would be off the ground if you were taking a shit without a toilet.
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I say this in all seriousness.
It's the distance your ass would be off the ground if you were taking a shit without a toilet.
IMO for bodybuilding that is perhaps a little too deep. Difficult to keep the "continuous tension" that works so well for bodybuilding. Just my opinion.
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IMO for bodybuilding that is perhaps a little too deep. Difficult to keep the "continuous tension" that works so well for bodybuilding. Just my opinion.
shouldn't be squatting for bodybuilding though
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I say this in all seriousness.
It's the distance your ass would be off the ground if you were taking a shit without a toilet.
Weird. What about countries where people shit into a hole in the ground? Geez, just here at work I know of 2 different height toilets. :-\
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Kennedy has been upping the dosage ;D
Solid lifts
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shouldn't be squatting for bodybuilding though
Lol
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IMO for bodybuilding that is perhaps a little too deep. Difficult to keep the "continuous tension" that works so well for bodybuilding. Just my opinion.
The problem is that you have to hit the brakes before you get your natural squat depth. Between the weight and the added momentum, that's a lot of downward force, and, stopping yourself short might do more harm to tendons and ligaments than whatever benefit you might be getting.
As an aside, it must be Christmas time. There's an actual training thread on Getbig ;)
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I like doing non-lock squats at times...........murderou s.
Constant tension and just plain old painful.
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I like doing non-lock squats at times...........murderou s.
Constant tension and just plain old painful.
I would think just walking through the snow in Buffalo is enough to keep the wheels solid. ;)
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I would think just walking through the snow in Buffalo is enough to keep the wheels solid. ;)
I`m not in Buffalo but I may as well be.......Northern NY state...........Buffalos West of me. :D
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That's how it's done.
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Good form!? His knees are all over the place, and that hip thingy he does when in the hole looks like a disaster waiting to happen. Good luck to the Clark Kent-looking guy.
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Him = doing paused squats for reps with 573 lbs
The rest of you = crushed by half that weight.
Except Tommy.
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Good form!? His knees are all over the place, and that hip thingy he does when in the hole looks like a disaster waiting to happen. Good luck to the Clark Kent-looking guy.
So, let see what you can do with 573lb? I bet all you can do with it, is roll the barbell on the floor, so how you can know what decent squat with that weight should look like?
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Here is more from that same guy:
It would be nice to see any of you guys to do same.. ;D
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Here is more from that same guy:
It would be nice to see any of you guys to do same.. ;D
Some explosive strength displayed here. What works in his advantage is that he's able to keep his back straight.
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Here is more from that same guy:
It would be nice to see any of you guys to do same.. ;D
Sure, do the same now and then when I'm in my 30s and 40s I'll be enjoying the best pain killers and spinal surgery money can buy. :)
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This place... ::) :D
Smith machine squats aren't really squats, Clean & Press are Olympic lifts, not Powerlifts, most Getbiggers don't know who the legendary Strength Coach Kevin Tolbert is.
"Grimmick" Grimek was an "O lifter" not a Powerlifter.
Tolbert
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Tolbert taught me how to squat.
True story.
He was a tops of thighs parallel to the floor guy (and he had a knee issue from football).
His form was perfect, better than any form displayed by Dr. Ken in his videos.
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Sure, do the same now and then when I'm in my 30s and 40s I'll be enjoying the best pain killers and spinal surgery money can buy. :)
So you are saying that these regular gymrat squats doesn't hurt your back at all?
What you brats should understand is that these examples are here because you should know that there is always the better way to do things. For example that spine - video which you linked: The message in that video is tell you that if you stress your spine wrong way, it get ill. It is quite stupid to think that proper form for squats make more damage, that that silly fucking wriggling that you call a squat. How about overloading a leg press, a hack squat for ego? No damage what so ever? We have great man to thank most of the back injuries in the gym, our hero, multiple Mr O Dorian Yates, who teach your blockheads to do bent over rows by standing straight up and yanking overloaded barbell up and down. Damages done by the squat are nothing compared to that ;D
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Tolbert taught me how to squat.
True story.
He was a tops of thighs parallel to the floor guy (and he had a knee issue from football).
His form was perfect, better than any form displayed by Dr. Ken in his videos.
Any more stories or lessons from Tolbert or Dr. Ken?
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Tolbert taught me how to squat.
True story.
He was a tops of thighs parallel to the floor guy (and he had a knee issue from football).
His form was perfect, better than any form displayed by Dr. Ken in his videos.
Is this Keith posting from the other side? :D