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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Coach is Back! on December 16, 2015, 07:28:13 AM
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http://www.conservativeoutfitters.com/blogs/news/80445441-video-blacksmith-settles-the-debate-can-jet-fuel-melt-steel-beams
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"Get over it! Find a job!"
Bwahahahahahaha, he's talking to Getbig. :D
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Setback. One word.
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This is not about sami the blacksmith from dubai, india?
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No he didn't he proved you can take a coat hanger thick piece of steel in a furnace (for who knows how long) and bend it on an anvil. Horrible hillbilly logic. He's a moron.
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"Find a job" Hahahahhaha
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No he didn't he proved you can take a coat hanger thick piece of steel in a furnace (for who knows how long) and bend it on an anvil. Horrible hillbilly logic. He's a moron.
Bend a metal spoon back and forth a bunch of times and it heats up and can be broken. Steel gets hot and gets weak. Not saying the government doesn't get into shady shit, but they didn't blow up the towers.
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Bush White House Press Boss Ari Fleischer has called Donald Trump a 911 truther.
He's repeatedly said "brought the buildings down". He's great friends with alex jones, the biggest 911 truther in the country. and he's a birther too. Big conspiracy guy.
LOL @ imagine republicans electing a 911 truther!
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No he didn't he proved you can take a coat hanger thick piece of steel in a furnace (for who knows how long) and bend it on an anvil. Horrible hillbilly logic. He's a moron.
Yes, Wiggs, you tell the guy who has worked with steel and metal his whole life the truth!!! Next thing you will be walking into emergency rooms, telling doctors how to perform surgery!! FACT!!
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Bush White House Press Boss Ari Fleischer has called Donald Trump a 911 truther.
He's repeatedly said "brought the buildings down". He's great friends with alex jones, the biggest 911 truther in the country. and he's a birther too. Big conspiracy guy.
LOL @ imagine republicans electing a 911 truther!
K, I'm pretty sure you're a pretty big CT on this as well. What's your point?
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No he didn't he proved you can take a coat hanger thick piece of steel in a furnace (for who knows how long) and bend it on an anvil. Horrible hillbilly logic. He's a moron.
Oh the irony.
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Oh the irony.
(http://image.superstreetonline.com/f/17234478/impp_0903_01_z+2008_mitsubishi_lancer_ralliart_fact_or_fiction+fact.jpg)
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Conspiracy theorists ::) ::)
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Yes, Wiggs, you tell the guy who has worked with steel and metal his whole life the truth!!! Next thing you will be walking into emergency rooms, telling doctors how to perform surgery!! FACT!!
Wiggs' enlightenment extends far beyond whatever fake knowledge has been used to deceive that blacksmith regarding metallurgy, SF.
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Yes, Wiggs, you tell the guy who has worked with steel and metal his whole life the truth!!! Next thing you will be walking into emergency rooms, telling doctors how to perform surgery!! FACT!!
He's not an architect. He's not an engineer. He's a hillbilly forger.
in regards to doctors no, I would not tell them how to do surgery but I'll tell them how to do nutrition because they don't know what the fuck they're doing and I'll tell them how to cure diseases because they clearly haven't been able to do that. They're trained monkeys. stuck in a fucked up paradigm that's why nothing gets done that's why guys like me and the holistic people get shit done.
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He's not an architect. He's not an engineer. He's a hillbilly forger.
in regards to doctors no, I would not tell them how to do surgery but I'll tell them how to do nutrition because they don't know what the fuck they're doing and I'll tell them how to cure diseases because they clearly haven't been able to do that. They're trained monkeys. stuck in a fucked up paradigm that's why nothing gets done that's why guys like me and the holistic people get shit done.
Okay, so lay out a plan on how to cure cancer. Go...
Also, I may add, if you knew how to cure diseases, you'd be a multi-billionaire, noble prize winner. Interesting how you aren't. Just sayin'
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Wiggs' enlightenment extends far beyond whatever fake knowledge has been used to deceive that blacksmith regarding metallurgy, SF.
Listen here boy, you have something to say say it directly to me, but don't act like a woman and go around that doing that passive aggressive shit that's a sign of a pussy but that's not a surprise with you. Are you sure you're black?
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Wiggs' enlightenment extends far beyond whatever fake knowledge has been used to deceive that blacksmith regarding metallurgy, SF.
Wiggs receives his knowledge from Planet Nibiru.
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Actually, Wiggs, please lay out a plan on how to cure the following diseases:
Alzheimers
Multiple Sclerosis
Cancer
Parkinsons
Diabetes
Asthma
I await your response.
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Listen here boy, you have something to say say it directly to me, but don't act like a woman and go around that doing that passive aggressive shit that's a sign of a pussy but that's not a surprise with you. Are you sure you're black?
Another internet tough guy, LOL!
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He's not an architect. He's not an engineer. He's a hillbilly forger.
in regards to doctors no, I would not tell them how to do surgery but I'll tell them how to do nutrition because they don't know what the fuck they're doing and I'll tell them how to cure diseases because they clearly haven't been able to do that. They're trained monkeys. stuck in a fucked up paradigm that's why nothing gets done that's why guys like me and the holistic people get shit done.
Bwahahaha!!!! Smoked some potent stuff this morning huh? ;D
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Okay, so lay out a plan on how to cure cancer. Go...
Also, I may add, if you knew how to cure diseases, you'd be a multi-billionaire, noble prize winner. Interesting how you aren't. Just sayin'
No, that person would be ostracized or dead. Can you fathom how much money is involved in keeping people sick are you that fucking nieve?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ytrcbWp4Q6CEkWjdCS-uCOVaCJJ59FuhDODq-9Tvdc/mobilebasic?hl=en
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2015/09/21/the-conspiracy-to-kill-alternative-medicine-practitioners-continues-apace/
And go fuck yourself regarding giving you a cure for cancer. I wouldn't give it to you morons, you don't deserve it you deserve to live your short little lives and then die because you bring nothing purposeful to this planet. if you people bought some purpose of this planet and had some spirituality different story but no. nothing personal.
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Bwahahaha!!!! Smoked some potent stuff this morning huh? ;D
No I don't smoke smoking marijuana invites demonic spirits.
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K, I'm pretty sure you're a pretty big CT on this as well. What's your point?
I gave up following conspiracy theories a few years ago. it was fun, but since parties switched, and repubs became birthers and "we fund ISIS!" nutters.... well, it's become a partisan issue for me. I seriously dislike CTers that only believe when it's the other party doing it. And infowars (which you quote a lot ;) went mainstream with cadillac ads and Trump all over it, lol.... a joke)
But yes, would it bother you to elect a 911 truther to office, Coach? When senior members of Bush white house are personally calling someone out for being a truther... when Trump keeps saying "brought the buildings down"... when trump is buddy buddy interviews with the biggest 911 truther on the planet, alex jones...
Well, at some point, you'll have to say out loud, "I support a 911 Truther Trump". Are you ready to say that, coach?
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No I don't smoke smoking marijuana invites demonic spirits.
That's wise, Wiggs!
You're crazy enough already.
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No, that person would be ostracized or dead. Can you fathom how much money is involved in keeping people sick are you that fucking nieve?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ytrcbWp4Q6CEkWjdCS-uCOVaCJJ59FuhDODq-9Tvdc/mobilebasic?hl=en
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2015/09/21/the-conspiracy-to-kill-alternative-medicine-practitioners-continues-apace/
And go fuck yourself regarding giving you a cure for cancer. I wouldn't give it to you morons, you don't deserve it you deserve to live your short little lives and then die because you bring nothing purposeful to this planet. if you people bought some purpose of this planet and had some spirituality different story but no. nothing personal.
lol. In other words, you have no cure for cancer and you're deflecting the question because you cannot provide evidence. I had a feeling you would say something crazy like what you said above haha lol. Class avoidance. :D :D :D
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lol. In other words, you have no cure for cancer and you're deflecting the question because you cannot provide evidence. I had a feeling you would say something crazy like what you said above haha lol. Class avoidance. :D :D :D
You pulled the same shit yesterday when I wouldn't give Dr. Kaji the information about Hebrews just because I don't provide something doesn't mean it doesn't exist you dipshit. You argue like a child grow up. Do your own research....mental midget.
I provide links for you guys to read you don't read them .You guys are not meant to know the stuff you're meant to live your short little lives and then die there will be a few that pick up what I say and I know that I'm telling the truth.
I think the biggest thing that I see is that you people lack critical thinking, reasoning and logic you can't put things together you're basically retarded.
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You pulled the same shit yesterday when I wouldn't give Dr. Kaji the information about Hebrews just because I don't provide something doesn't mean it doesn't exist you dipshit. You argue like a child grow up. Do your own research....midget.
I provide links for you guys to read you don't read them .You guys are not meant to know the stuff you're meant to live your short little lives and then die there will be a few that pick up what I say and I know that I'm telling the truth.
I think the biggest thing that I see is that you guys like critical thinking reasoning logic you can't put things together you're basically retarded compared to me
lol. Epic meltdown. How is that nursing school going for you? :D :D
Again, classic avoidance. Why should I do the research? You're the one making the claim. Either provide the proof or move along. If not, its just a bunch of rambling from someone who is bat shit crazy (you). Yes, yes, we know. You know the truth. Sure, you do. You're so enlightened lol. Oh boy, this gets better by the minute. Tell us again when the world is going to end haha lol
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Even if I provide d the cure for cancer and everything else none of you would believe it or use it so what would be the point of me giving you the protocol to get rid of anything if you're not going to use it or give it to someone you're just going to make satirical material of it and that's not what it's meant to be.
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Even if I provide d the cure for cancer and everything else none of you would believe it or use it so what would be the point of me giving you the protocol to get rid of anything if you're not going to use it or give it to someone you're just going to make satirical material of it and that's not what it's meant to be.
lol at telling me I argue like a child. Yes, because saying you have evidence but are not going to share it is so grown up. Thats equivalent to the 5 year old who runs home with his ball and throws a temper tantrum lol. Ive actually never heard an adult argue like that--I am not going to share with you. And you're so grown up haha lol
Wiggs, you need to learn something from Parker and Drkage. They can teach you a thing or two.
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lol. Epic meltdown. How is that nursing school going for you? :D :D
Again, classic avoidance. Why should I do the research? You're the one making the claim. Either provide the proof or move along. If not, its just a bunch of rambling from someone who is bat shit crazy (you). Yes, yes, we know. You know the truth. Sure, you do. You're so enlightened lol. Oh boy, this gets better by the minute. Tell us again when the world is going to end haha lol
lol at telling me I argue like a child. Yes, because saying you have evidence but are not going to share it is so grown up. Thats equivalent to the 5 year old who runs home with his ball and throws a temper tantrum lol
Nursing school is going great thank you very much. :) I'm on holiday break right now how's your life little fella? You just let it all loose there didn't ya? :D I'm glad I could help you relieve some stress. Have a good day. :)
Youre a midget physically, you're a midget mentally,and you can't grow up... Classic...
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Nursing school is going great thank you very much. :) I'm on holiday break right now how's your life little fella? You just let it all loose there didn't ya? :D I'm glad I could help you relieve some stress. Have a good day. :)
Seems like you got all your aggression and epic meltdown out of you. :D :D All that pent up aggression from being wrong all the time can be exhausting, huh?
Again, when is the world ending? :D :D
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Seems like you got all your aggression and epic meltdown out of you. :D :D All that pent up aggression from being wrong all the time can be exhausting, huh?
Again, when is the world ending? :D :D
you may want to go back and read my last line...... midget
can you please tell me when nibiru is supposed to smash into the planet again hahahaha...
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you may want to go back and read my last line...... midget
lol. So, you can't answer my question when the world will end and how to cure cancer or any other disease? Any other claim you want to make, but are not able to back up? Or, are you going to keep spouting nonsense without actually ever backing up any of your claims? I know, I know, you are not going to provide any evidence because none of us can handle it; we are not READY for such indepth knowledge.
Wiggs, when Planet Nibiru comes, where will you be? Will you be aligned with it?
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lol. So, you can't answer my question when the world will end and how to cure cancer or any other disease? Any other claim you want to make, but are not able to back up? Or, are you going to keep spouting nonsense without actually ever backing up any of your claims? I know, I know, you are not going to provide any evidence because none of us can handle it; we are not READY for such indepth knowledge.
Wiggs, when Planet Nibiru comes, where will you be? Will you be aligned with it?
It makes no difference you're going to hell either way...
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It makes no difference you're going to hell either way...
haha lol. ;D ;D ;D
Which one?
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haha lol. ;D ;D ;D
Which one?
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(http://orig04.deviantart.net/24c2/f/2008/016/3/6/hot_as_hell_by_shadodwlr.jpg)
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(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cC4u_1o7R0w/maxresdefault.jpg)
The real one...
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The real one...
What does the real one look like? :D :D
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Physical manifestation of the term "Melt Down"?
Pretty sure that the theory behind what was presented by this metal worker is very sound.
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Even if I provide d the cure for cancer and everything else none of you would believe it or use it so what would be the point of me giving you the protocol to get rid of anything if you're not going to use it or give it to someone you're just going to make satirical material of it and that's not what it's meant to be.
Post a cure (that I can prove works in a double-blind study) and it'll be used.
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Content fires in post flashover reach temperatures of 1600F - 1800F. Steel loses 90% of it's structural integrity at 1400F.
This is not rocket science.
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Content fires in post flashover reach temperatures of 1600F - 1800F. Steel loses 90% of it's structural integrity at 1400F.
This is not rocket science.
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Why are you spreading mistruths? :)
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Content fires in post flashover reach temperatures of 1600F - 1800F. Steel loses 90% of it's structural integrity at 1400F.
This is not rocket science.
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FACT???!?!?!?! :D :D
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No I don't smoke smoking marijuana invites demonic spirits.
no it doesn't it simply allows one to see truth, the reaction is all you, perhaps your subconscious is at odds with your actual life.
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Nursing school is going great thank you very much. :) I'm on holiday break right now how's your life little fella? You just let it all loose there didn't ya? :D I'm glad I could help you relieve some stress. Have a good day. :)
Youre a midget physically, you're a midget mentally,and you can't grow up... Classic...
Why are you still studying if you believe the world will end and all you black fellas are ascending to planet Nigiru? Serious question
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Why are you still studying if you believe the world will end and all you black fellas are ascending to planet Nigiru? Serious question
or being taught by those in a flawed paradigm when he clearly has the answers. Why even get an education, if you have a cure (the fact that he says cancer as if it's one thing is too funny) for every illness.
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Hahah Wiggs is crazy as fvck. He used to be very open about smoking marijuana all the time. I wonder if drug use took a toll in his head.
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Also, why is Wiggs getting a second degree? He used to claim he was a B.Sc. in something I can't remember.
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Hahah Wiggs is crazy as fvck. He used to be very open about smoking marijuana all the time. I wonder if drug use took a toll in his head.
I guess a demonic spirit took over.
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I guess a demonic spirit took over.
I joke a lot but still hope he gets better.
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He's not an architect. He's not an engineer.
Are you?
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Are you?
That's the ironic part. :D :D
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Wiggs isn't the one making the pos video. (haven't watched it, but just saying...)
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Are you?
Engineering? Pshaw!
His understanding is from sub-atomic to universal.
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Wiggs isn't the one making the pos video. (haven't watched it, but just saying...)
no kidding.
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No he didn't he proved you can take a coat hanger thick piece of steel in a furnace (for who knows how long) and bend it on an anvil. Horrible hillbilly logic. He's a moron.
Oh dear. This logic and proof thing does not sit with you.
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has it ever been explained how Bush could've watched what he said he watched, namely TV footage of the first plane crashing into the WTC while he waited outside the classroom in Florida?
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has it ever been explained how Bush could've watched what he said he watched, namely TV footage of the first plane crashing into the WTC while he waited outside the classroom in Florida?
What? ???
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What? ???
footage of the first plane hitting the WTC wasn't shown on TV until about 12 hours after the crash, but Bush said he watched it on TV in the school that morning before entering the classroom.
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has it ever been explained how Bush could've watched what he said he watched, namely TV footage of the first plane crashing into the WTC while he waited outside the classroom in Florida?
Medication is the only way I could explain that. But it would have to be a heavy one.
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Jet fuel wasn't the only thing in those buildings that was burning. All that heat will add up over time.
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footage of the first plane hitting the WTC wasn't shown on TV until about 12 hours after the crash, but Bush said he watched it on TV in the school that morning before entering the classroom.
Eyewitness testimony is often flawed. Just look at Trump saying he saw thousands of moslems celebrating in the street after the towers fell.
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Eyewitness testimony is often flawed. Just look at Trump saying he saw thousands of moslems celebrating in the street after the towers fell.
True.
But Trump's incorrect recollections were about events that occurred over 14 years ago, whereas just 3 months after 9/11 Bush described watching the first plane hit the WTC on TV on the morning of ...
Also, given 9/11's significance to the nation and to the world (and particularly to Bush 43's presidency) shouldn't W himself as president and commander-in-chief kind of remembered some of the key moments of his own personal timeline on such a historic day when America was under attack?
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Eyewitness testimony is often flawed. Just look at Trump saying he saw thousands of moslems celebrating in the street after the towers fell.
The number will grow every year, LOL!
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True.
But Trump's incorrect recollections were about events that occurred over 14 years ago, whereas just 3 months after 9/11 Bush described watching the first plane hit the WTC on TV on the morning of ...
Also, given 9/11's significance to the nation and to the world (and particularly to Bush 43's presidency) shouldn't W himself as president and commander-in-chief kind of remembered some of the key moments of his own personal timeline on such a historic day when America was under attack?
Didn't a news anchor misremember being on a helicoptor that was safe as being one that was shot at and the pilot shot (not sure on latter point)... people will always exaggerate or misremember stories to prove/help their argument or even for recognition. People are cu nts in general, and will lie or do whatever to get their way.
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Eyewitness testimony is often flawed. Just look at Trump saying he saw thousands of moslems celebrating in the street after the towers fell.
No, it is strange. What he said was that he'd seen a plane hit a building which caused him to think "what a terrible pilot" (or very similar sentiment).
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No, it is strange. What he said was that he'd seen a plane hit a building which caused him to think "what a terrible pilot" (or very similar sentiment).
Can you post a clip to put it in context?
I was due an operation on my ankle that day so watched it all live (after 1st plane crashed) and nobody was sure if it was terrorism til second plane hit when the penny dropped. I remember it all unfolding, and it is all on youtube, even Bush being told when in a preschool and improving his learning of the language ;D ;D ;D
I am sure any statement he made is out there online.
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Can you post a clip to put it in context?
I was due an operation on my ankle that day so watched it all live (after 1st plane crashed) and nobody was sure if it was terrorism til second plane hit when the penny dropped. I remember it all unfolding, and it is all on youtube, even Bush being told when in a preschool and improving his learning of the language ;D ;D ;D
I am sure any statement he made is out there online.
This is just what I found.
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Will come back to this tomorrow to see where it goes. IMO he was in a meds fog, for whatever reason.
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thanks sf1900, and def will watch those tomorrow
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This is just what I found.
I would view that as an exaggersted war story rather than proof of a conspiracy. Ie making it seem like you were in the action or more relevant.
Same as he wore wings only military pilots get iirc.
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K, I'm pretty sure you're a pretty big CT on this as well. What's your point?
All roads lead to Donald Trump.
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thanks sf1900, and def will watch those tomorrow
No problem! :) :)
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Listening to that blacksmith is the equivalent of having a bartender come in and perform a liver transplant surgery, necessitated by liver cirrhosis, because after all, bartenders handle liquor all the time, and they know all about the side effects of alcohol.
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i'm a Canadian eh?? so I don't know anything about this. but it was an awesome lucky guess that this broadcaster announced on live tv that building 7 (wasn't hit by any plane) collapsed when it obviously hadn't. it was in the background during her report. oddly, it collapsed at the speed of gravity a half hour later ??? ???
What trusted news source is this from? I saw the confusion unflold on TV. News anchors had no idea and I was watching Sky, owned by about the biggest TV mogul you can get.
Why cause the economy to slump, did any of these broadcasters financially benefit from shorting the markets? I know some close to terrorists shorted airlines but if more than those who did it knew, how could one person not break the secret? The only way to keep a secret between 3 people is to kill the other 2. A lot of people have been quiet... and all the evidence suggests a terror attack that went beyond the success imagined.
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Let's use some common sense logic. They didn't need to crash planes into the towers if they had explosives ready to go and they certainly wouldn't have been sending emergency and rescue teams up only to kill 400 of them. Plus, the video clearly shows the break and collapse happening at the point of entry. Now, WTC 7 on the other hand was not hit by anything, was evacuated and then once the area was clear of all rescue and emergency personnel was clearly imploded from the bottom demolition style. Does that make me a CT person? A truther? Or just a man using his eyes, logic and common sense.
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BBC
Does everything have to be about the Big Black Cock? The Kardashians had nothing to do with 9/11.
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Let's use some common sense logic. They didn't need to crash planes into the towers if they had explosives ready to go and they certainly wouldn't have been sending emergency and rescue teams up only to kill 400 of them. Plus, the video clearly shows the break and collapse happening at the point of entry. Now, WTC 7 on the other hand was not hit by anything, was evacuated and then once the area was clear of all rescue and emergency personnel was clearly imploded from the bottom demolition style. Does that make me a CT person? A truther? Or just a man using his eyes, logic and common sense.
I dunno much about WTC7, all I would say is the momentum of a plane hitting a large skyscraper in a crowded city would be enormous and cause a lot of collateral damage. P=mv
Say the plane was 79,000kg x 600kph - that is enormous damage with a lot of stuff to damage around you. I don't know though, WTC7 was never an issue here so won't say more.
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He's not an architect. He's not an engineer. He's a hillbilly forger.
in regards to doctors no, I would not tell them how to do surgery but I'll tell them how to do nutrition because they don't know what the fuck they're doing and I'll tell them how to cure diseases because they clearly haven't been able to do that. They're trained monkeys. stuck in a fucked up paradigm that's why nothing gets done that's why guys like me and the holistic people get shit done.
(http://image.superstreetonline.com/f/17234478/impp_0903_01_z+2008_mitsubishi_lancer_ralliart_fact_or_fiction+fact.jpg)
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Wiggs' enlightenment extends far beyond whatever fake knowledge has been used to deceive that blacksmith regarding metallurgy, SF.
Of course it does. Remember the original blacksmith was BLACK. FACT!
In fact, the term was pronounced "Blacksmif"! Sheeeeeit...
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Listening to that blacksmith is the equivalent of having a bartender come in and perform a liver transplant surgery, necessitated by liver cirrhosis, because after all, bartenders handle liquor all the time, and they know all about the side effects of alcohol.
The blacksmith said he wasn't trying to prove the conspiracy wrong. Insted, he wanted to prove that structural steel turn into a noodle with a high enough temperature even if the ºC is not high enough to melt it. He actually proved his point. :D
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Does everything have to be about the Big Black Cock? The Kardashians had nothing to do with 9/11.
Can we be sure of this?
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I threw my shoe at a cat once and it hit a bicycle and knocked to over.
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Can we be sure of this?
The theory that they purposefully had a hand in it can not be taken lightly.
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The theory that they purposefully had a hand in it can not be taken lightly.
Ban Kardashians!
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Ban Kardashians!
Definitely legislation I can get behind.
I see a solid platform there.
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Trump = 911 CTer. Repubs have to love it. They're too stupid to know what Alex Jones has been spouting for the past 30 years. Suddenly they're all high-fiving him. Ignorant. If they knew 1% of the shit that Jones blamed Bush for...
Now, they're magically cheering Trump as the bush white house calls him a 911 truther. Do they even have a clue?
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No he didn't he proved you can take a coat hanger thick piece of steel in a furnace (for who knows how long) and bend it on an anvil. Horrible hillbilly logic. He's a moron.
No, but evidently you are. I know you can't change your mindset about the matter even if that blacksmith would come and stick that iron in your anus, but here is the fact: Steel start to loose it's strength starting from 200°C, and when it reach the temperature of the 800°C, it is soft as a noodle. This is based on basic laws of physics, and therefore it is undeniable fact. That's why it doesn't make any difference if he uses 1" steel, or 12" steel for an example. All steel react same way to heat, it is simple as that. If you don't believe it, please explain the horse shoe: Do they
1. Grow on the tree
2. Grow from the horses hoof
3. Blacksmith make them by forging steel
But the bottom line is still same: Until some of you foil hat idiots prove that there was some kind of explosions at the 9/11 videos, your conspiracy didn't happen. This is the main point of your theory, and if you can't prove it, shut the fuck up.
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He's not an architect. He's not an engineer. He's a hillbilly forger.
in regards to doctors no, I would not tell them how to do surgery but I'll tell them how to do nutrition because they don't know what the fuck they're doing and I'll tell them how to cure diseases because they clearly haven't been able to do that. They're trained monkeys. stuck in a fucked up paradigm that's why nothing gets done that's why guys like me and the holistic people get shit done.
It doesn't matter what he is, but what you are: Ignorant fucking fool who believes all the crap from the internet, and deny even simplest facts of life, which are based on laws of physics. There is no words in the English language to describe how fucking stupid that is, because it is beyond moronic, you have to be both, a moron and insane to believe that crap.
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Listening to that blacksmith is the equivalent of having a bartender come in and perform a liver transplant surgery, necessitated by liver cirrhosis, because after all, bartenders handle liquor all the time, and they know all about the side effects of alcohol.
At least he has a job, and he knows how the steel behave in the high temperatures. You see, that moronic casuistry only make you look like an complete idiot, because anyone can see that the blacksmith knows what he is talking about, and you doesn't.
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Let's use some common sense logic. They didn't need to crash planes into the towers if they had explosives ready to go and they certainly wouldn't have been sending emergency and rescue teams up only to kill 400 of them. Plus, the video clearly shows the break and collapse happening at the point of entry. Now, WTC 7 on the other hand was not hit by anything, was evacuated and then once the area was clear of all rescue and emergency personnel was clearly imploded from the bottom demolition style. Does that make me a CT person? A truther? Or just a man using his eyes, logic and common sense.
Amount of the stupidity among these people is overwhelming. So you are saying that the WTC 1 & 2 went down because they were hit by the planes, but the WTC 7 was a controlled demolition? It wasn't hit by anything...well. not anything more than WTC 1 on it's way down. I don't know, but I would say it is something, how about you? But what is interesting is the scenario which you have find from some pile of crap, and which shows the stupidity of the foil hat morons at it's best. So, the planes hit the towers and they collapsed within the couple of hours, covering whole Manhattan with dust, filled with asbestos and all kind of unhealthy crap. It is obvious that hit was surprise, so when and how they plant the explosives in the WTC7? You see, to make a controlled demolition you have to have a plan, you need a crew and bunch of machines, and it still takes weeks to install the explosives. How about a far better scenario? When WTC1 collapsed, part of its debris hit the WTC7 starting fires and making severe structural damage. Building was on fire full 8 hours, and collapsed because the red hot steel structure lose it's strength. Scenario 1 doesn't include any evidence what so ever, but 2 is completely proved. Take your pick.. ;D
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Listening to that blacksmith is the equivalent of having a bartender come in and perform a liver transplant surgery, necessitated by liver cirrhosis, because after all, bartenders handle liquor all the time, and they know all about the side effects of alcohol.
Your analogy doesn't make sense. This guy is an expert, but just doesn't have a degree to go with his real world knowledge/experience. I've seen several times where an engineer asked a carpenter how he would do something, then put that plan to paper and stamp it. Real world and on paper are two different things. I wouldn't discount what someone says just because they don't have a degree.
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Amount of the stupidity among these people is overwhelming. So you are saying that the WTC 1 & 2 went down because they were hit by the planes, but the WTC 7 was a controlled demolition? It wasn't hit by anything...well. not anything more than WTC 1 on it's way down. I don't know, but I would say it is something, how about you? But what is interesting is the scenario which you have find from some pile of crap, and which shows the stupidity of the foil hat morons at it's best. So, the planes hit the towers and they collapsed within the couple of hours, covering whole Manhattan with dust, filled with asbestos and all kind of unhealthy crap. It is obvious that hit was surprise, so when and how they plant the explosives in the WTC7? You see, to make a controlled demolition you have to have a plan, you need a crew and bunch of machines, and it still takes weeks to install the explosives. How about a far better scenario? When WTC1 collapsed, part of its debris hit the WTC7 starting fires and making severe structural damage. Building was on fire full 8 hours, and collapsed because the red hot steel structure lose it's strength. Scenario 1 doesn't include any evidence what so ever, but 2 is completely proved. Take your pick.. ;D
Those guys probably believe explosives were installed when the buildings were erected.
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http://www.conservativeoutfitters.com/blogs/news/80445441-video-blacksmith-settles-the-debate-can-jet-fuel-melt-steel-beams
LMAO What a clown. ::)
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Why is it hard to believe that WTC 7 was weakened by the shock of the other collapsing buildings is my question?
Is it so hard to believe that a building at the center of not one, but two earthquakes measuring over 2.3 within a few minutes would possibly collapse?
It doesn't seem impossible to me.
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No, but evidently you are. I know you can't change your mindset about the matter even if that blacksmith would come and stick that iron in your anus, but here is the fact: Steel start to loose it's strength starting from 200°C, and when it reach the temperature of the 800°C, it is soft as a noodle. This is based on basic laws of physics, and therefore it is undeniable fact. That's why it doesn't make any difference if he uses 1" steel, or 12" steel for an example. All steel react same way to heat, it is simple as that. If you don't believe it, please explain the horse shoe: Do they
1. Grow on the tree
2. Grow from the horses hoof
3. Blacksmith make them by forging steel
But the bottom line is still same: Until some of you foil hat idiots prove that there was some kind of explosions at the 9/11 videos, your conspiracy didn't happen. This is the main point of your theory, and if you can't prove it, shut the fuck up.
Ropo - why did this building not collapse in China after massive fire? I thought the steel would be weakened and become noodles??
(http://static01.nyt.com/images/2009/02/09/world/09beijing-600.jpg)
(http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/AI-BA460_CCTV_NS_20100208132918.gif)
(http://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M30f8e374eb25fef79294c63f406c13c4o0&pid=15.1)
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Why is it hard to believe that WTC 7 was weakened by the shock of the other collapsing buildings is my question?
Is it so hard to believe that a building at the center of not one, but two earthquakes measuring over 2.3 within a few minutes would possibly collapse?
It doesn't seem impossible to me.
Not demolition style. It would be a gradual collapse. The structure is a framework. If you were to cut a few columns the whole building will not pancake down. Some parts will sag but the remaining structural frame will hold it up.
WTC7 collapsing the way it did after the 911 events is impossible. Hope that helps!
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I gave up following conspiracy theories a few years ago. it was fun, but since parties switched, and repubs became birthers and "we fund ISIS!" nutters.... well, it's become a partisan issue for me. I seriously dislike CTers that only believe when it's the other party doing it. And infowars (which you quote a lot ;) went mainstream with cadillac ads and Trump all over it, lol.... a joke)
But yes, would it bother you to elect a 911 truther to office, Coach? When senior members of Bush white house are personally calling someone out for being a truther... when Trump keeps saying "brought the buildings down"... when trump is buddy buddy interviews with the biggest 911 truther on the planet, alex jones...
Well, at some point, you'll have to say out loud, "I support a 911 Truther Trump". Are you ready to say that, coach?
OMG 240, do you really still believe in left / right, republican / democrat, conservative / liberal?!!! Don't you by now realize it is all a game?? Do you realize Trump is buddies with Clinton? They all belong to one big club.
Seriously wise up.
Be truthful and honest with yourself. You know 911 was an inside job.
The original 911 CT'er was 240 or Bust / 240 is Back!
FACT!
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At least he has a job, and he knows how the steel behave in the high temperatures. You see, that moronic casuistry only make you look like an complete idiot, because anyone can see that the blacksmith knows what he is talking about, and you doesn't.
I want to see him do a video at 1500 degrees.
And also, let's assume some columns and beams are noodles. Not all of them will be. Especially the ones in WTC7. How can they be noodles? Show me videos / photos of massive fires in WTC7! If a couple are noodles the structure will sag / partially collapse. It will not pancake demolition style.
Ropo, don't be a fucking moron!!
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Why is it hard to believe that WTC 7 was weakened by the shock of the other collapsing buildings is my question?
Is it so hard to believe that a building at the center of not one, but two earthquakes measuring over 2.3 within a few minutes would possibly collapse?
It doesn't seem impossible to me.
Why WTC7 of all buildings? There were other buildings much closer in proximity to WTC 1 and 2. Plus, the manner in which WTC7 fell was completely unlike the collapse of WTC 1 and 2. Somehow of all of the buildings, they knew WTC7 was going to collapse. They evacuated all rescue and emergency personnel from that area alone. It fell about eight hours after the other buildings. Look at this map and tell me why this building collapsed while others did not.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/WTC_Building_Arrangement_and_Site_Plan_%28building_7_highlighted%29.jpg)
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Why WTC7 of all buildings? There were other buildings much closer in proximity to WTC 1 and 2. Plus, the manner in which WTC7 fell was completely unlike the collapse of WTC 1 and 2. Somehow of all of the buildings, they knew WTC7 was going to collapse. They evacuated all rescue and emergency personnel from that area alone. It fell about eight hours after the other buildings. Look at this map and tell me why this building collapsed while others did not.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/WTC_Building_Arrangement_and_Site_Plan_%28building_7_highlighted%29.jpg)
Obviously the only answer I could possibly provide would be that the building had some structural flaw that couldn't handle the shock.
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Ropo - why did this building not collapse in China after massive fire? I thought the steel would be weakened and become noodles??
(http://static01.nyt.com/images/2009/02/09/world/09beijing-600.jpg)
(http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/AI-BA460_CCTV_NS_20100208132918.gif)
(http://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M30f8e374eb25fef79294c63f406c13c4o0&pid=15.1)
Allow me to help. This building is Type 1 construction (Fire Resistive). Plus, it was not hit by a Boeing 747 jet. Hope this helps.
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i've quit following CTs. They're still amusing but I haven't clicked that board for months or years, and usually avoid these threads altogether. believe what you want.
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lmfao Ropo attacking everyone
;D ;D
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Allow me to help. This building is Type 1 construction (Fire Resistive). Plus, it was not hit by a Boeing 747 jet. Hope this helps.
All tall buildings are Type 1 - by code. And WTC7 was also not hit by a 747. The fires in the Beijing tower was much more severe than WTC7 - fact!
Type 1: Fire-Resistive
Type 1 structures are high-rises, and they’re the stoutest of all construction types when exposed to fire. High-rises are usually defined as buildings more than 75 feet tall, with some agencies making amendments for buildings that are 35–55 feet tall.
Type 1 structures are constructed of concrete and protected steel (steel coated with a fire-resistant material, most often a concrete mixture), and are designed to hold fire for an extended amount of time in order to keep the fire at bay in the room and/or floor of origin.
As far as the typical ventilation operation of getting on the roof and cutting a hole, that’s not really an option when dealing with Type 1 construction. Even horizontal ventilation becomes challenging, as the windows are thick, tempered glass and may not be an efficient way to ventilate the structure.
Ladder companies must be aggressive in securing the stairwells for both firefighters and victims evacuating the structure. If the structure meets building code, it will be equipped with self-pressurizing stairwells and have HVAC systems that will aid in air movement. If necessary, the ladder company may need to mechanically pressurize the stairwells using a series of fans strategically placed at the base of the stairwell and every 10–12 floors depending on the effectiveness of the fans. The fire protection and fire-related systems in these buildings are overwhelming, so crews should make it a priority to locate a maintenance worker and keep them close throughout the incident.
Type 1 structures are easy to identify on height alone. It’s important for firefighters to know their city’s building codes, as this may affect which features are found inside the structures. Ladder crews should frequent Type 1 buildings in their area and be familiar with the systems that they may encounter (elevators, HVAC, fire pumps, etc). Finally, they must not forget to maintain good working relationships with the maintenance workers at these buildings.
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i've quit following CTs. They're still amusing but I haven't clicked that board for months or years, and usually avoid these threads altogether. believe what you want.
You're untrue to yourself. You know the game is rigged. You know politics is all a scam. Yet you pose with your Republican vs Democrat posts.
You're not fooling anyone. Only morons and gullible fools still believe in the left / right fairy tale.
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i enjoy politics. i enjoy it because i love debate. I like back and forth, verbal ownings over issues. in real life, i never talk politics, outside of debating whatever topic on holidays with a little bourbon in me... but in real life, I'll debate and argue over ANYTHING. keeps me sharp.
for me, politics is more real than most things on TV. Kardashians? NBA playoffs? Fix is in ANYTHING there's millions of dollars at play. Politics is 'live history'. I actually have a degree in history - being a high school history teacher was my original plan. A lot of history is bullshit written by the winners... we'd hear a whole different reichtag story if Hitler won WWII. But since everything is coated with lies, down to "who's the best lover you've ever had baby?" ... why not enjoy the fibs for the entertainment that they are?
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i enjoy politics. i enjoy it because i love debate. I like back and forth, verbal ownings over issues. in real life, i never talk politics, outside of debating whatever topic on holidays with a little bourbon in me... but in real life, I'll debate and argue over ANYTHING. keeps me sharp.
for me, politics is more real than most things on TV. Kardashians? NBA playoffs? Fix is in ANYTHING there's millions of dollars at play. Politics is 'live history'. I actually have a degree in history - being a high school history teacher was my original plan. A lot of history is bullshit written by the winners... we'd hear a whole different reichtag story if Hitler won WWII. But since everything is coated with lies, down to "who's the best lover you've ever had baby?" ... why not enjoy the fibs for the entertainment that they are?
Have you watched "The Man in the High Castle"? It gives an alternate look at history.
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Ropo - why did this building not collapse in China after massive fire? I thought the steel would be weakened and become noodles??
(http://static01.nyt.com/images/2009/02/09/world/09beijing-600.jpg)
(http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/AI-BA460_CCTV_NS_20100208132918.gif)
(http://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M30f8e374eb25fef79294c63f406c13c4o0&pid=15.1)
How fucking hard it is to understand, that WTC towers are only buildings, which are A. HIT BY AN AEROPLANE AS BIG AS BOEING 767 B. EXPERIENCED CATASTROPHIC FIRE? It shouldn't be as hard as it seem to be, so it can't mean anything else than the fact, that your ability to comprehend even the simplest things is altered by insanity. I mean how fucking stupid you have to be if you think that those planes didn't mean anything regarding the collapse? I know you foil hats love videos, so how about this? In this video you see what happen when car hit the object 200 kilometers per hour:
Car weights something like 1.5 tons and it has speed of 200 km/h, and it is able to trash a similar car + move 4 tons of concrete barriers for meters in second. Weight of the 767 - 222 is 150 tons and it has speed of 8-900km/h. Regardless how fucking stupid you are, when that kind of mass hit anything at all, it have to mean something?
Secondly, there isn't any explosives on this planet, which explodes without any kind of signs of explosion. In the other video you see what a real explosion looks like. If you are able to point out anything which even slightly resembles to the thing what you will see in this video, from any of the 9/11 videos, then we could continue this discussion:
We both know that we didn't see anything like that at the 9/11 attack, and this is quite typical explosion of the 100-200 lb of charge. To break the structure steel of the WTC towers, you would need hundreds of similar charges. It is amazing that all that energy can collapse building, but it doesn't even break the fucking windows. When the ragheads blow up the van in the basement of the WTC, there were few dozen people who got the injuries from the flying glass, even if that explosion were deep underground. How many there were at the 9/11? Almost none, while there should be thousands.
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Yes, Wiggs, you tell the guy who has worked with steel and metal his whole life the truth!!! Next thing you will be walking into emergency rooms, telling doctors how to perform surgery!! FACT!!
haha
Good find coach posted this now on a tinfoil hats fb page he and his friends will melt and say the guh id paid bu the gpverment to say that hahA
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I want to see him do a video at 1500 degrees.
And also, let's assume some columns and beams are noodles. Not all of them will be. Especially the ones in WTC7. How can they be noodles? Show me videos / photos of massive fires in WTC7! If a couple are noodles the structure will sag / partially collapse. It will not pancake demolition style.
Ropo, don't be a fucking moron!!
Denial of the facts of life isn't a mark of intelligence, it is plain and simple stupidity. If 800-1000°C is enough to make the steel loose 80% of it's strength, what will 1500°C do? There were 22 floor above the fire, which is 1/5 of the building and so fore it weights 100 000 tons. How long you can hold that load up with some noodels? 56 minutes..
Show me the video about the explosions in the WTC towers? Until you do that, there isn't really anything to talk about, because the collapse of the WTC 7 was the result of the collapses of the towers. Prove otherwise, or shut the fuck up.
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I dunno much about WTC7, all I would say is the momentum of a plane hitting a large skyscraper in a crowded city would be enormous and cause a lot of collateral damage. P=mv
Say the plane was 79,000kg x 600kph - that is enormous damage with a lot of stuff to damage around you. I don't know though, WTC7 was never an issue here so won't say more.
it was a big fire underneath wtc7 that weakend the building..People have to look how the building was constructed .nothing strange with wtc falling like a cardhouse when you know it.
And that theory about the journalist talking about the buildimg falling before it fell why would the goverment tell a fucking journalist about killing lots of its own people, makes no sense
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it was a big fire underneath wtc7 that weakend the building..People have to look how the building was constructed .nothing strange with wtc falling like a cardhouse when you know it.
And that theory about the journalist talking about the buildimg falling before it fell why would the goverment tell a fucking journalist about killing lots of its own people, makes no sense
And the WTC 7 was the building which really had a big fuel deposit for the emergenry generators. Foil hats have try to put it here and there, but in fact WTC 7 had tanks of 42000 gallons ;D
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All tall buildings are Type 1 - by code. And WTC7 was also not hit by a 747. The fires in the Beijing tower was much more severe than WTC7 - fact!
Type 1: Fire-Resistive
Type 1 structures are high-rises, and they’re the stoutest of all construction types when exposed to fire. High-rises are usually defined as buildings more than 75 feet tall, with some agencies making amendments for buildings that are 35–55 feet tall.
Type 1 structures are constructed of concrete and protected steel (steel coated with a fire-resistant material, most often a concrete mixture), and are designed to hold fire for an extended amount of time in order to keep the fire at bay in the room and/or floor of origin.
As far as the typical ventilation operation of getting on the roof and cutting a hole, that’s not really an option when dealing with Type 1 construction. Even horizontal ventilation becomes challenging, as the windows are thick, tempered glass and may not be an efficient way to ventilate the structure.
Ladder companies must be aggressive in securing the stairwells for both firefighters and victims evacuating the structure. If the structure meets building code, it will be equipped with self-pressurizing stairwells and have HVAC systems that will aid in air movement. If necessary, the ladder company may need to mechanically pressurize the stairwells using a series of fans strategically placed at the base of the stairwell and every 10–12 floors depending on the effectiveness of the fans. The fire protection and fire-related systems in these buildings are overwhelming, so crews should make it a priority to locate a maintenance worker and keep them close throughout the incident.
Type 1 structures are easy to identify on height alone. It’s important for firefighters to know their city’s building codes, as this may affect which features are found inside the structures. Ladder crews should frequent Type 1 buildings in their area and be familiar with the systems that they may encounter (elevators, HVAC, fire pumps, etc). Finally, they must not forget to maintain good working relationships with the maintenance workers at these buildings.
I'll try to make this as simple as possible.
WTC1 and WTC2 both hit by Boeing Jets. Both burned unabated until their collapse.
WTC7 hit by debris from WTC1, and burned unabated until it's collapse.
No other high-rise structure fire has had these same circumstances.
Plus, WTC7 had a very shitty building design. Hope this helps!
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And the WTC 7 was the building which really had a big fuel deposit for the emergenry generators. Foil hats have try to put it here and there, but in fact WTC 7 had tanks of 42000 gallons ;D
The structural collapse of WTC7 had nothing to do will fuel deposits in the building. Hardly any of the fuel burned, and what did burn had a negligible effect on the building.
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Show me videos / photos of massive fires in WTC7! If a couple are noodles the structure will sag / partially collapse. It will not pancake
WTC7 was burning unabated for 7 hours. It was not a small fire, it was a very large contents fire on multiple floors.
(http://www.911myths.com/assets/images/WTC7_Smoke.jpg)
http://www.911myths.com/wtc7moresmoke.avi
The fires in the Beijing tower was much more severe than WTC7 - fact!
Do you have any scientific data to back up the above statement? ???
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How fucking hard it is to understand, that WTC towers are only buildings, which are A. HIT BY AN AEROPLANE AS BIG AS BOEING 767 B. EXPERIENCED CATASTROPHIC FIRE? It shouldn't be as hard as it seem to be, so it can't mean anything else than the fact, that your ability to comprehend even the simplest things is altered by insanity. I mean how fucking stupid you have to be if you think that those planes didn't mean anything regarding the collapse? I know you foil hats love videos, so how about this? In this video you see what happen when car hit the object 200 kilometers per hour:
WTC7 was NOT hit by an airplane moron. There were not massive fires as claimed.
This is a massive fire!
(http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/compare/docs/mandarin/beijing_torch.jpg)
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Obviously the only answer I could possibly provide would be that the building had some structural flaw that couldn't handle the shock.
Sources?? You are speculating.
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Denial of the facts of life isn't a mark of intelligence, it is plain and simple stupidity. If 800-1000°C is enough to make the steel loose 80% of it's strength, what will 1500°C do? There were 22 floor above the fire, which is 1/5 of the building and so fore it weights 100 000 tons. How long you can hold that load up with some noodels? 56 minutes..
Show me the video about the explosions in the WTC towers? Until you do that, there isn't really anything to talk about, because the collapse of the WTC 7 was the result of the collapses of the towers. Prove otherwise, or shut the fuck up.
Bullshit. This building had much worse fires than WTC7 and yet it was fine after the fires died out.
And btw, the WTC buildings are the only steel skyscrapers in the history of the world that have ever totally collapsed due to fire.
Beijing - did not collapse:
(http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/compare/docs/mandarin/beijing_torch.jpg)
The First Interstate Bank Building - did not collapse:
(http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/compare/docs/fib_la_fire_lg_s.jpg)
Windsor Building - did not collapse:
(http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/compare/docs/windsor7.jpg)
(http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/compare/docs/windsor6.jpg)
WTC7 - collapsed - lol!
(http://dickatlee.com/issues/911/images/wtc7_nist_fire_n_350_pm_photo.png)
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Plus, WTC7 had a very shitty building design. Hope this helps!
This is a bullshit statement. Where's your sources on the structural design of WTC7? It was a fairly recent structure built to modern standards. How are you qualified to say the structural design was shitty? Are you fucking serious????
Moron!!
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Do you have any scientific data to back up the above statement? ???
Are you trying to say the fires in the Beijing tower was less severe than WTC7? Are you looking at this comparison??? Are you an imbecile???
This
(http://dickatlee.com/issues/911/images/wtc7_nist_fire_n_350_pm_photo.png)
VS
(http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/compare/docs/mandarin/beijing_torch.jpg)
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Obsidian,
Is there a single CT you do not believe in? If so, please can you tell us which one it is?
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Sources?? You are speculating.
This entire conversation is speculation. When you have people on both sides providing evidence for and against, anything that we say is speculation.
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How fucking hard it is to understand, that WTC towers are only buildings, which are A. HIT BY AN AEROPLANE AS BIG AS BOEING 767 B. EXPERIENCED CATASTROPHIC FIRE? It shouldn't be as hard as it seem to be, so it can't mean anything else than the fact, that your ability to comprehend even the simplest things is altered by insanity. I mean how fucking stupid you have to be if you think that those planes didn't mean anything regarding the collapse? I know you foil hats love videos, so how about this? In this video you see what happen when car hit the object 200 kilometers per hour:
Car weights something like 1.5 tons and it has speed of 200 km/h, and it is able to trash a similar car + move 4 tons of concrete barriers for meters in second. Weight of the 767 - 222 is 150 tons and it has speed of 8-900km/h. Regardless how fucking stupid you are, when that kind of mass hit anything at all, it have to mean something?
Secondly, there isn't any explosives on this planet, which explodes without any kind of signs of explosion. In the other video you see what a real explosion looks like. If you are able to point out anything which even slightly resembles to the thing what you will see in this video, from any of the 9/11 videos, then we could continue this discussion:
We both know that we didn't see anything like that at the 9/11 attack, and this is quite typical explosion of the 100-200 lb of charge. To break the structure steel of the WTC towers, you would need hundreds of similar charges. It is amazing that all that energy can collapse building, but it doesn't even break the fucking windows. When the ragheads blow up the van in the basement of the WTC, there were few dozen people who got the injuries from the flying glass, even if that explosion were deep underground. How many there were at the 9/11? Almost none, while there should be thousands.
You know a car is steel and a plane is aluminium, right?
A car is made to resist small crashes and collapse in big ones and a plane is made to be as light as possible because it has to fly. I'm not sure what you have to gain by arguing to support the official story when even the 911 commission, by their own admission feel the investigation was a joke.
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Obsidian,
Is there a single CT you do not believe in? If so, please can you tell us which one it is?
Elvis / Niburu to name but a few of many.
What about you? Any CT you believe in? Or are there no conspiracies in the world in your mind?
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Elvis / Niburu to name but a few of many.
What about you? Any CT you believe in? Or are there no conspiracies in the world in your mind?
Conspiracy theories are for feeble minds. Scared people who need to feel special, that they see something that others can't.
Except for real hebrews/Nibiru. That shit is all true.
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This entire conversation is speculation. When you have people on both sides providing evidence for and against, anything that we say is speculation.
Do yourself a favor and look at the research on 911. Many are providing evidence which you are happy to overlook and then you make speculative claims without backing it up with evidence.
http://wtfrly.com/2014/04/17/nist-waits-3-months-decline-fix-flawed-wtc7-report/ (http://wtfrly.com/2014/04/17/nist-waits-3-months-decline-fix-flawed-wtc7-report/)
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Conspiracy theories are for feeble minds. Scared people who need to feel special, that they see something that others can't.
Except for real hebrews/Nibiru. That shit is all true.
What about the Gulf of Tonkin?
You are really very naive and stupid if you think humans do not conspire ever. Are you really that fucking moronic?
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What about the Gulf of Tonkin?
You are really very naive and stupid if you think humans do not conspire ever. Are you really that fucking moronic?
Some conspiracies are true, but usually they are on a much smaller scale and they get exposed in a credible way, like Watergate for example. 100% of the CT like 9/11 was an inside job, we never landed on the moon, Area 51 and so on are bullshit.
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Some conspiracies are true, but usually they are on a much smaller scale and they get exposed in a credible way, like Watergate for example. 100% of the CT like 9/11 was an inside job, we never landed on the moon, Area 51 and so on are bullshit.
Which actual conspiracy theories still remain un-exposed?
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Bullshit. This building had much worse fires than WTC7 and yet it was fine after the fires died out.
And btw, the WTC buildings are the only steel skyscrapers in the history of the world that have ever totally collapsed due to fire.
Beijing - did not collapse:
(http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/compare/docs/mandarin/beijing_torch.jpg)
The First Interstate Bank Building - did not collapse:
(http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/compare/docs/fib_la_fire_lg_s.jpg)
Windsor Building - did not collapse:
(http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/compare/docs/windsor7.jpg)
(http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/compare/docs/windsor6.jpg)
WTC7 - collapsed - lol!
(http://dickatlee.com/issues/911/images/wtc7_nist_fire_n_350_pm_photo.png)
So you are denying that WTC 1 fall partly on to WTC 7, even there is loads of photos proving that fact? And all what foil hats have is one piece of crap video, which has been cut from the original, so it shows only a couple of seconds about the collapse which take more than 15 seconds, after the building were on fire tad less than 8 hours? Well, ass wipe, that is your problem, because you can't prove that there were any other reason for the collapse than the WTC1 and fire.
Furthermore, this has nothing to do with anything, because it is complete moronic to claim, that there were separate conspiracy to demolish the WTC7. Let look at the facts: There was nothing which even nearly would resemble explosions at the WTC 1 & 2, so they collapse because of the fire and damages from the plane crashes. This has to be a fact, because no one has been able to prove any explosions at the site, so how come collapse of the WTC 7 could be conspiracy? They see the planes coming, and they start to install explosives to the WTC 7, doing months worth of work in few minutes? How fucking stupid you has to be to believe that crap? Seriously? You don't have even a single evidence to prove your stupid claims, but only your blind faith that those lies are true? That is pitiful, and proves that you are an idiot..
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You know a car is steel and a plane is aluminium, right?
A car is made to resist small crashes and collapse in big ones and a plane is made to be as light as possible because it has to fly. I'm not sure what you have to gain by arguing to support the official story when even the 911 commission, by their own admission feel the investigation was a joke.
Thank you, because that has to be most stupid comment about this matter ever. Instead of the foil hat crap, how about studying the laws of physics, which would prove you that speed + mass = catastrophic forces in the collision against any object, not mention the skyscraper. While these laws are absolute truth in this universe, it has to mean they were ruling the circumstances of the collisions at the 9/11, and this is a fact. Forces of the collision has been calculated, and it were equal to tons of TNT, and this doesn't include fire started by the fuel. So what do you think? If we put a 5 tons of TNT in the middle of the building, which floors are filled by open plan offices, would there be some serious damage? 99.99999% of the people in this world would say yes, but the remaining part, the foil hat morons deny it, because they doesn't believe the laws of physics. And in the next video you see what 5 tons of TNT look like:
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Do yourself a favor and look at the research on 911. Many are providing evidence which you are happy to overlook and then you make speculative claims without backing it up with evidence.
http://wtfrly.com/2014/04/17/nist-waits-3-months-decline-fix-flawed-wtc7-report/ (http://wtfrly.com/2014/04/17/nist-waits-3-months-decline-fix-flawed-wtc7-report/)
Exactly who is providing the evidence for foil hat theories? Never seen even one, because there isn't any, only bunch of claims. For years I have asked if there would be anyone brave enough to prove the controlled demolition of any of the WTC buildings by showing the explosions from the video. How many has even try to do that? No one. Zero (0) people, so where is the evidence? You silly fuckers cannot prove even the most vital point of your stupid theory, so who cares about that other crap? And your resource is What The Fuck- magazine, which is uphold by Nazis and foil hats? Gee, I bet that this is the place where we find the truth ;D
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What about the Gulf of Tonkin?
You are really very naive and stupid if you think humans do not conspire ever. Are you really that fucking moronic?
How about you providing the evidence even one single explosion at the 9/11 attack, from any of the videos filmed that day? How I can be so sure that this will never happen?? Can you answer this simple question?
Amount of the stupidity in your claims is ridiculous, and what you really are proving, is that the study about the foil hats is not just accurate, but 100% right about it's facts. You morons are running a circles by this matter and you present same claims year after year, no matter how many times they have been proved wrong. In the mean while you haven't been able to prove even a single thing at any of your theories, no matter if they concern 9/11, JFK, Sandy Hook, Moon landing, chemtrails or holohoax. All and every one of the foil hat claims has been proved to be crap in any of these theories, but here you are, still trying. Can you understand how fucking stupid that is?
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Thank you, because that has to be most stupid comment about this matter ever. Instead of the foil hat crap, how about studying the laws of physics, which would prove you that speed + mass = catastrophic forces in the collision against any object, not mention the skyscraper. While these laws are absolute truth in this universe, it has to mean they were ruling the circumstances of the collisions at the 9/11, and this is a fact. Forces of the collision has been calculated, and it were equal to tons of TNT, and this doesn't include fire started by the fuel. So what do you think? If we put a 5 tons of TNT in the middle of the building, which floors are filled by open plan offices, would there be some serious damage? 99.99999% of the people in this world would say yes, but the remaining part, the foil hat morons deny it, because they doesn't believe the laws of physics. And in the next video you see what 5 tons of TNT look like:
If your claims were correct the building would have immediately fallen but it didn't.
Qualifying you for the most stupid remarks ever. Why are you defending the official story?
What do you have to gain?
Are you a shill or to afraid to think for yourself? You really believe the government gives two shits about you?
I'm quite sure they don't...
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Not a conspiracy guy but there's no way the boacksmith's demonstration can account for the additional strength that would come from multiple steel beams and other building materials.
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Can we at least all agree that the plane over Pennsylvania headed for a building in DC was shot down and not brought down by heroic passengers?
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Can we at least all agree that the plane over Pennsylvania headed for a building in DC was shot down and not brought down by heroic passengers?
Possibly shot so it couldn't be brought down (safely) by heroic passengers, even.
Sucks when we can't place trust in what we're told.
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If your claims were correct the building would have immediately fallen but it didn't.
Qualifying you for the most stupid remarks ever. Why are you defending the official story?
What do you have to gain?
Are you a shill or to afraid to think for yourself? You really believe the government gives two shits about you?
I'm quite sure they don't...
How exactly you know that they would have fallen immediately? This is the problem with your kind of idiots, you look at the attack bit by bit, not understanding that it was first of it's kind in history of this universe. That's why you can't know what should have happen, and that's why you can't compare it to anything else. I have said plenty of times that I don't defend official story, I just like to kick sand on all these stupid twats, whose life is ruled by the beliefs and rumors rather than facts. Twats like you, who believe that following the fairytales of the foil hat morons means that you are "thinking for yourself", while it is as far from it as it can be.
Fact is that in past years no one have been able to point out even one explosions from the videos of the 9/11 attack, so it has to mean that there wasn't one. I know it as a fact, that there isn't any foil hat who would be happy to thrust that video down my throat, but it will never happen. Why? Because there wasn't any explosions, that's why, and that could mean only one thing: Towers collapse because they were hit by the planes and because of the fire, and that is simple as that. That is what has been proved, and only thing what you kind of idiots really have is disbelief, and that doesn't prove anything.
So why don't you look it another way around?
1. Foil hats haven't been able to prove even a single thing about this matter, and the easiest way would have been prove those explosions of the controlled demolition. No can do, because there isn't any kind of signs of explosions, not even the broken windows.
2. There is the laws of physics, which rules how things happen in this world, and the foil hat version of the story break those laws in every part there is.
3. There is tons of evidence for the "official theory", and simply none for the foil hat theory
4. 2 & 3 are true, even if you change whole conspiracy theory to another one. These silly fucks hasn't been able to prove anything about any foil hat theory, and only thing what they have been able to prove anywhere, is that they don't know those laws of physics.
You don't believe it? Why don't we look closer how these idiots think, shall we? How about proving Holohoax to be a fucking lie? As you has to know, there is holocaust revisionists who tell you that holocaust never happen, and they "prove" trying make you believe, that Zyclon B wasn't poisonous at tall, that you can't kill Jews by diesel exhaust, that you can't cremate corpses as fast as they did, but they doesn't offer any real evidence about it. They offer you only some opinions and claims, and disbelief.
So why don't we look at this as adults, and with slightly different point of view? If you need to lose few million Jews, where you must start? Well, you can't just go and stand by the yard and say that here were x millions of Jews standing around here, but they disappear in the thin air like a puff of smoke, because no one would believe you. You have to be able to prove there was x millions of Jews, and how do you do it? For every citizen there is loads of evidence of his existence, starting from the birth, all the documents, all the papers, all the photos, the home, the neighbors, the library cards etc. crap, and just about any family of any of us could be proved like that to centuries back in time. Some of the Americans have their genealogy beyond the first ships which came to America, and average European could find his ancestors easily to the year 1600 or even further. So, if Jews want to pull this scam, they need to create x million virtual Jews, starting hundreds of years before WW2 and birth of the Hitler, so that leads to one simple question: How did they know? To prove that you have lose x million jews you has to fabricate as many counterfeit human life's with all the details there is, so how they know when to start, hundreds of years before Hitler?
1. Among all another super human abilities, Jews can foretell with 100% accuracy
2. Holocaust happen as it is written in the history
Take your pick.. ;D