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i know, i know, the smith machine is gay. only for girls. but i have been using it for my bent over rows, and its pretty good. the up and down movement of the machine seems to take stress off my lower back.
I'm able to do 275 for reps, which probably equates to 225 on a big bar. things you do when you get older 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Muscle Center had a thread on them. I may give them a try.
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i know, i know, the smith machine is gay. only for girls. but i have been using it for my bent over rows, and its pretty good. the up and down movement of the machine seems to take stress off my lower back.
I'm able to do 275 for reps, which probably equates to 225 on a big bar. things you do when you get older 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
the only problem is the movement is natural. But yeah if you back isn't hurting keep doing them.
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Might try this. I have thoracic back issues and I don't feel comfortable doing it with a loose bar.
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i know, i know, the smith machine is gay. only for girls. but i have been using it for my bent over rows, and its pretty good. the up and down movement of the machine seems to take stress off my lower back.
I'm able to do 275 for reps, which probably equates to 225 on a big bar. things you do when you get older 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Try doing 225 with a barbell. I bet you couldn't do it for 3 strict reps.
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Doing them with a regular barbell paused in the floor each rep is easier on the lower back
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Doing them with a regular barbell paused in the floor each rep is easier on the lower back
x2.
Takes out the band reflex and makes the use of heavier weights more difficult.
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x2.
Takes out the band reflex and makes the use of heavier weights more difficult.
Put the pins down to chest level and do dead-stop reps. You have to shave at least 20% off your weight.
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The issue with smith machine movements is they are absolutely vertical up and down. Very few movements are linear like this , which creates shear forces as rep is performed. I recommend barbell with way less weight as natural path of motion.
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It's cool if the gym is empty, but if it's packed and some asshole is hogging the smith to do rows then you're a fucking cocksucking asshole.
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It's cool if the gym is empty, but if it's packed and some asshole is hogging the smith to do rows then you're a fucking cocksucking asshole.
I'm curious, what movement would you consider as an acceptable use of the smith machine?
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Greg Kovacs was very strong on the Smith machine.
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impedes your natural range of motion
you are better off doing it free weight with better form and lighter weight
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Barbell rows while laying on an incline bench are pretty good. The range of motion is shortened though so sometimes I use dumbells.
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If an exercise works for you then do it, who cares what other "Hardcore" meatheads think. If i could not do BB rows cause of injury i would do what ever i could to work my back. Seated cable rows are a good exercise if you canīt do a free weight row, close grip and wide grip. Build muscle too, infact one Gym i worked in i remember a Kick Boxing Trainer who did just seated cable rows and wide grip chins. His back was very good.
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I'm curious, what movement would you consider as an acceptable use of the smith machine?
None
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I'm curious, what movement would you consider as an acceptable use of the smith machine?
Inverted chest row.
Gym towel holder.
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It's cool if the gym is empty, but if it's packed and some asshole is hogging the smith to do rows then you're a fucking cocksucking asshole.
Idiotic stance. I use the smith machine when injured or healing and it's a fucking godsend. The only unacceptable aka retarded use I've seen for the smith machine is a hammer type curl. And by type I mean I had no idea what was going on with the form.
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Idiotic stance. I use the smith machine when injured or healing and it's a fucking godsend. The only unacceptable aka retarded use I've seen for the smith machine is a hammer type curl. And by type I mean I had no idea what was going on with the form.
or upright rows!
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I'll have to try it
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I'm curious, what movement would you consider as an acceptable use of the smith machine?
Shadow Boxing, Intimidating stares and checking yourself out in the mirror.
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i know, i know, the smith machine is gay. only for girls. but i have been using it for my bent over rows, and its pretty good. the up and down movement of the machine seems to take stress off my lower back.
I'm able to do 275 for reps, which probably equates to 225 on a big bar. things you do when you get older 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Chest supported rows.
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Smith machine bent rows are the BEST!!! You can use a good amount of weight AND hold it at the top for a second! Aint nothing pussy about it! Whatever works, works! Do my squats on the smith machine too
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impedes your natural range of motion
you are better off doing it free weight with better form and lighter weight
would this be the case for Bench press too? 8)
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The issue with smith machine movements is they are absolutely vertical up and down. Very few movements are linear like this , which creates shear forces as rep is performed. I recommend barbell with way less weight as natural path of motion.
Good point
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The issue with smith machine movements is they are absolutely vertical up and down. Very few movements are linear like this , which creates shear forces as rep is performed. I recommend barbell with way less weight as natural path of motion.
yep
as I said you are forced in to lifting in an unnatural path
not good
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would this be the case for Bench press too? 8)
yep
as I said you are forced in to lifting in an unnatural path
not good
answer my question stud... Quote .. You are better off doing it free weight with lighter weight.
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answer my question stud... Quote .. You are better off doing it free weight with lighter weight.
I talk to people who actually train on here
post pics to show they do
you are just a needy troll begging for attention
post a pic and il answer your question :)
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impedes your natural range of motion
you are better off doing it free weight with better form and lighter weight
Is this the same with a bench press ? lighter weight meaning 500 lbs? so you must use more on the Smith machine?
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Dear Gentlemen,
This may be of absolutely no value, but Craig Richardson and I have used the Smith Machine for virtually every body part for over 17
years and find it to be excellent. At some point, you must consider safety and being free from injury.
Harley
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yep
as I said you are forced in to lifting in an unnatural path
not good
Didn't realize there was only one "natural path".
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Dear Gentlemen,
This may be of absolutely no value, but Craig Richardson and I have used the Smith Machine for virtually every body part for over 17
years and find it to be excellent. At some point, you must consider safety and being free from injury.
Harley
exactly if it works for you then who cares what is stereotype?
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Didn't realize there was only one "natural path".
Y-Board Mod he must know ???
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Smith machine bent rows are the BEST!!! You can use a good amount of weight AND hold it at the top for a second! Aint nothing pussy about it! Whatever works, works! Do my squats on the smith machine too
Congratulations with your blue stars, Mike!
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The one issue with the smith machine, as previously stated, is that it locks you into one range of motion. Thus, if a body part hurts in that specific range of motion, there is nothing you can do to alter. The only thing you can probably do is use lighter weight.
However, if youre using free weight, it allows you to use various ROM's and different angles. As such, if you find an angle where the body part doesnt hurt, then you may be able to go heavy.
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The one issue with the smith machine, as previously stated, is that it locks you into one range of motion. Thus, if a body part hurts in that specific range of motion, there is nothing you can do to alter. The only thing you can probably do is use lighter weight.
However, if youre using free weight, it allows you to use various ROM's and different angles. As such, if you find an angle where the body part doesnt hurt, then you may be able to go heavy.
as i wrote before today ..if it works for the "INDIVIDUEL" itīs good. Weight training is what works for you. One mans meat is another mans poison.
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as i wrote before today ..if it works for the "INDIVIDUEL" itīs good. Weight training is what works for you. One mans meat is another mans poison.
What's an "Individuel?" ??? ??? ???
Yes, we all know weight training varies depending on the person. However, that does not mean that one cannot offer advice on training.
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What's an "Individuel?" ??? ??? ???
Yes, we all know weight training varies depending on the person. However, that does not mean that one cannot offer advice on training.
i never said it did or have you misunderstood me? "Individual" happy?
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as i wrote before today ..if it works for the "INDIVIDUEL" itīs good. Weight training is what works for you. One mans meat is another mans poison.
ha ha what retard wrote this shit
individuel
posted in capital letters to highlight the stupidity
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ha ha what retard wrote this shit
individuel
posted in capital letters to highlight the stupidity
I think i have highlighted yours more than once today.
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Ladies, you have your own thread in which to squabble. Use it.
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Ladies, you have your own thread in which to squabble. Use it.
good point apologies
I still believe the smith machine isn't suitable for rows
due to the unnatural motion
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as i wrote before today ..if it works for the "INDIVIDUEL" itīs good. Weight training is what works for you. One mans meat is another mans poison.
You're a capitalized full blown RETARD
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I read "bent over" and no pick when I click????
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You're a capitalized full blown RETARD
and you like spunk :-\