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Mainstream media scared to state the obvious, terrorists are Muslim, non-white terrorists. Look at the plot to destroy America by ISIS wannabes: http://abcnews.go.com/US/feds-thwart-alleged-years-eve-plot-inspired-isis/story?id=36030872&ts=true
California killers, trade center bombers, shoe bombers, Army recruiter killers, etc. they are all Muslim, non-white, mass murderers. I think I may have to vote for Trump, the evidence is obvious...
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I think we can all agree that Muslims are Terrorist!
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i was playing a party tonight... two people came running into the club with masks on. They about got tackled by everyone in there. several people stopped instantly and one pulled mask off for the idiot.
they were just two goofballs drinking, having fun... but people don't mess around, people are definitely more vigilant. had there been any weapon or bag in their hand, they wouldn't been tackled fast.
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Not all Terrorists are Muslim but all Muslims are Terrorists
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I love the false premise that if you identify who and what is at the root of Islamic Terrorism then you are some how a racist who thinks that all Muslims are terrorists.
I also love how the press is desperately trying to invent a "Muslim backlash" so they can show how white Americans are evil racists and all this shit is their fault after all.
Our society is actively and intentionally ignoring reality right now and there is consequences to doing that.
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I love the false premise that if you identify who and what is at the root of Islamic Terrorism then you are some how a racist who thinks that all Muslims are terrorists.
I also love how the press is desperately trying to invent a "Muslim backlash" so they can show how white Americans are evil racists and all this shit is their fault after all.
Our society is actively and intentionally ignoring reality right now and there is consequences to doing that.
A sleeping man is easily slain.
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Flippin thru the radio the other day on the way home from work
O'l Glen Beck was on
Conversation regarding muslim extremists being responsible for the world's terrorism
Glen said " as opposed to what other kind of extremists?
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Flippin thru the radio the other day on the way home from work
O'l Glen Beck was on
Conversation regarding muslim extremists being responsible for the world's terrorism
Glen said " as opposed to what other kind of extremists?
???
http://securitydata.newamerica.net/extremists/deadly-attacks.html
http://time.com/3934980/right-wing-extremists-white-terrorism-islamist-jihadi-dangerous/
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???
http://securitydata.newamerica.net/extremists/deadly-attacks.html
http://time.com/3934980/right-wing-extremists-white-terrorism-islamist-jihadi-dangerous/
Nope
http://www.breitbart.com/blog/2014/04/15/cnn-s-peter-bergen-right-wing-extremists-have-killed-more-than-jihadists-since-9-11/
Not too mention the amount of jihadist plans thwarted vs home grown right wingers is night and day
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Nope
http://www.breitbart.com/blog/2014/04/15/cnn-s-peter-bergen-right-wing-extremists-have-killed-more-than-jihadists-since-9-11/
Not too mention the amount of jihadist plans thwarted vs home grown right wingers is night and day
Good Lord, I didn't think anybody except Peter Bergen believed that utterly retarded article. Just goes to show the level of delusion that multiculturalists will achieve in trying to self-justify their imbecilic beliefs.
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A sleeping man is easily slain.
You must eat Chinese food daily.
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Your bush in my hand is worth two chickens.
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You must eat Chinese food daily.
It's part of my nutritional regimen.
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It's part of my nutritional regimen.
As long as it fits your macros.
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Nope
http://www.breitbart.com/blog/2014/04/15/cnn-s-peter-bergen-right-wing-extremists-have-killed-more-than-jihadists-since-9-11/
Not too mention the amount of jihadist plans thwarted vs home grown right wingers is night and day
Tried to find a response to this article (blog?) by Bergren, didn't find anything. I gather they haven't felt the need to adjust their methodology in light of these questions. here's a response from the foundation: http://www.breitbart.com/blog/2014/04/16/response-from-new-america-foundation/
you can see a nice breakdown of the ethnicities here :
http://securitydata.newamerica.net/extremists/analysis.html
It's a pretty serious presentation of the data, worth a look!
(but only if facts matter) ;)
here's a few more links to reports on the study. enjoy
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/tally-of-attacks-in-us-challenges-perceptions-of-top-terror-threat.html
http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/14/opinion/bergen-sterman-kansas-shooting/
http://www.npr.org/2015/06/24/417192057/right-wing-extremists-more-dangerous-than-islamic-terrorists-in-u-s
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/06/terrorism-threat/396749/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/16/cnn-us-right-wing-extremists-more-deadly-jihadists/
http://www.pbs.org/guy-threat-jihadists-u-s/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/10/15/how-the-justice-department-is-stepping-up-its-response-to-domestic-extremists/
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Every Republican and moderate Democrat knows this and also knows they cannot say it for fear of being labeled a "racist". So they'll vote with their fingers and not their mouths and all of the libtards can move to Canada where they won't have to cry about global warming. Fucking morons.
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Didn't realize Muslim is a race. I assume there are no white Muslims?
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Every Republican and moderate Democrat knows this and also knows they cannot say it for fear of being labeled a "racist". So they'll vote with their fingers and not their mouths and all of the libtards can move to Canada where they won't have to cry about global warming. Fucking morons.
Race is a factor (for some) but that's not a valid reason to delay honest discussion on things.
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Every Republican and moderate Democrat knows this and also knows they cannot say it for fear of being labeled a "racist". So they'll vote with their fingers and not their mouths and all of the libtards can move to Canada where they won't have to cry about global warming. Fucking morons.
It's not racist to speak against a religion. Why do you retards think Islam is a race? You do realize Islam consists of all races.
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It's not racist to speak against a religion. Why do you retards think Islam is a race? You do realize Islam consists of all races.
You're the retard who labels people as racist for using commons sense. So you figure it out you fucking moron.
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Didn't realize Muslim is a race. I assume there are no white Muslims?
^^
There are PLENTY, I served in Bosnia from 1995-1997 all the people there have same skin as us... they are Muslim because TURKEY occupied their country in 1463,
they are very hard-working nice people there just trying to live when Serbia came crashing their border.
VERY similar to what "Mr. Putin" is doing with Ukraine today.
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here's what the "retards" at West Point found out about it:
https://www.ctc.usma.edu/posts/challengers-from-the-sidelines-understanding-americas-violent-far-right
https://www.ctc.usma.edu/v2/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ChallengersFromtheSidelines.pdf
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"retards" at the Department of Homeland Security:
http://fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/19/politics/terror-threat-homeland-security/
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from the "retards" at the FBI:
“in terms of their distribution across the United States, white supremacists are the most pervasive because the issues driving them exist throughout the country.”
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/402525-doc-30-threat-assessment-domestic-terrorism.html
???
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from the "retards" at the FBI:
“in terms of their distribution across the United States, white supremacists are the most pervasive because the issues driving them exist throughout the country.”
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/402525-doc-30-threat-assessment-domestic-terrorism.html
???
In excess of 70% of the American population are white. As well, christianity represents 70% of the population . Islamic followers represent less than 1% of the population.
Go bring your bullshit somewhere else. It's easy to manipulate the data if you don't present all the facts. Muslims commit these terroristic act at an exponentially higher rate than these nutty right wing christians.
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In excess of 70% of the American population are white. As well, christianity represents 70% of the population . Islamic followers represent less than 1% of the population.
Go bring your bullshit somewhere else. It's easy to manipulate the data if you don't present all the facts. Muslims commit these terroristic act at an exponentially higher rate than these nutty right wing christians.
what bullshit?
the FBI, DHS, West Point reports?
(http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ExtremistAttacks_20150624_V3.png)
where do you get your information on terrorist threats?
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what bullshit
the FBI, DHS, West Point reports?
where do you get your information on terrorist threats?
I'll take your data at face value and trust that it is correct. In a total American population of +320 million people, I would say 48 acts of terror being committed by a population that is both 70% of the entire population in race and religion, is a more a more acceptable number than 45 dead in that same time span by a group that represents less than 1% of the population.
The occasional white supremacist nut job is disgusting, but they aren't the bigger problem. Muslims are the bigger terrorist threat and it gets worse as there numbers increase. I'm not anti-muslim and I don't want anyone persecuting innocent muslims, but let's not be naive here
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I'll take your data at face value and trust that it is correct. In a total American population of +320 million people, I would say 48 acts of terror being committed by a population that is both 70% of the entire population in race and religion, is a more a more acceptable number than 45 dead in that same time span by a group that represents less than 1% of the population.
The occasional white supremacist nut job is disgusting, but they aren't the bigger problem. Muslims are the bigger terrorist threat and it gets worse as there numbers increase. I'm not anti-muslim and I don't want anyone persecuting innocent muslims, but let's not be naive here
like I said, let me know how you arrived at this conclusion and where you get your information. . For now I'll stick with well known terrorism experts, experts at FBI and DHS etc.
Looking forward to seeing the reports, studies to support your claims.
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@ iwantmass,
Dead is dead.
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the face of the enemy!
(http://murderpedia.org/male.S/images/stack-andrew-joseph/andrew-joseph-stack-5.jpg)
(http://www.readthehorn.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/image_full/joe_stack.png)
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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/19/us/19crash.html
dead is dead!
;D
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like I said, let me know how you arrived at this conclusion and where you get your information. . For now I'll stick with well known terrorism experts, experts at FBI and DHS etc.
Looking forward to seeing the reports, studies to support your claims.
And like I said, I'll assume your data is true and accurate. Aparently math is yet another one of your weaknesses. Lemme try and help.
Muslims commit an act of terror at 0.000014 per muslim
Let's just assume for the sake of napkin math that all acts of these 48 acts of terror were committed by christians. It won't be exact but it will be close. 0.00000021 act of terror occur per a christian given their population.
I'm not going to insert my opinion here. We will just rely on the numbers. A quick look at those 2 numbers tells me that there are 2 more zeros after the decimal point if we look at the amount of Christians that commit an act of terror given their demographic. As we know, you aren't good with numbers but that is a lot. That is why I earlier used the term "exponential" when referring to the severity that a muslim in would commit a crime vs a christian white right winger.
If we look at those numbers, we can honestly say that both christian and muslim acts of terror are certainly an anomaly. That being said, muslim acts of terror occur much more frequent rate than christian if we factor their percentages.
I'm certain you won't understand this as I don't suspect they call you Mr turbo for your quick wit, but I tried for the 3rd time
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@ iwantmass,
Dead is dead.
I agree 100%. That is why I said deaths at the hand of white supremacist are disgusting. That isn't the issue at hand between me and mr turbo. Mr turbo would like to imply that this right wing white supremacist group is more of a danger. It isn't, and that is if we completely ignore 9/11 as he did. Read the rest of the thread
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I agree 100%. That is why I said deaths at the hand of white supremacist are disgusting. That isn't the issue at hand between me and mr turbo. Mr turbo would like to imply that this right wing white supremacist group is more of a danger. It isn't, and that is if we completely ignore 9/11 as he did. Read the rest of the thread
Safety is probably relative to where people live and lifestyle. I kind of doubt the typical American lives in daily danger from Islamic terrorists. In fact, I believe our way(s) of life and rights are more in danger from how the political process is manipulated by playing on people's fears.
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And like I said, I'll assume your data is true and accurate. Aparently math is yet another one of your weaknesses. Lemme try and help.
Muslims commit an act of terror at 0.000014 per muslim
Let's just assume for the sake of napkin math that all acts of these 48 acts of terror were committed by christians. It won't be exact but it will be close. 0.00000021 act of terror occur per a christian given their population.
I'm not going to insert my opinion here. We will just rely on the numbers. A quick look at those 2 numbers tells me that there are 2 more zeros after the decimal point if we look at the amount of Christians that commit an act of terror given their demographic. As we know, you aren't good with numbers but that is a lot. That is why I earlier used the term "exponential" when referring to the severity that a muslim in would commit a crime vs a christian white right winger.
If we look at those numbers, we can honestly say that both christian and muslim acts of terror are certainly an anomaly. That being said, muslim acts of terror occur much more frequent rate than christian if we factor their percentages.
I'm certain you won't understand this as I don't suspect they call you Mr turbo for your quick wit, but I tried for the 3rd time
ok but you just decided arbitrarily that this was an appropriate analysis. To be honest I don't get it totally. I don't have an opinion but the data indicates that whitey is at least as bad as the jihadi factor. No need for 10 decimal points of precision.
If the terrorism experts at West Point put out a 150 page report on domestic right-wing terrorism, it's your prerogative to dismiss it. If fifteen different major media outlets print a University study by terrorism experts you have a right to dismiss it and apply your own set of analyses come to your own conclusions etc. Keep doing what you're doing, I hope it works for you. Call it bullshit and recalculate the numbers if that make you feel better but it won't reduce terrorist attacks.
(http://cdn.thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/16135427/rightwing-jihadists-2.png)
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LOL @ mr turdball trying to play statician and not realizing what a fool he comes out looking.
In fact, I believe our way(s) of life and rights are more in danger from how the political process is manipulated by playing on people's fears.
This x2
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LOL @ mr turdball trying to play statician and not realizing what a fool he comes out looking.
This x2
conehead getting defensive again, ready at any moment to fly into another extreme tizzy
a wise man once said "you're part of the problem"
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Safety is probably relative to where people live and lifestyle. I kind of doubt the typical American lives in daily danger from Islamic terrorists. In fact, I believe our way(s) of life and rights are more in danger from how the political process is manipulated by playing on people's fears.
This is a very accurate statement.
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conehead getting defensive again, ready at any moment to fly into another extreme tizzy
a wise man once said "you're part of the problem"
I've never flown into a tizzy, let alone an extreme one. Sounds dangerous.
You should listen to that wise man. ;)
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They ve all got it in them, their backward, sick book condones and encourages it. Trust me I read the thing and couldn't believe it. Cut off the heads of non believers, shun non believers.
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ok but you just decided arbitrarily that this was an appropriate analysis. To be honest I don't get it totally. I don't have an opinion but the data indicates that whitey is at least as bad as the jihadi factor. No need for 10 decimal points of precision.
If the terrorism experts at West Point put out a 150 page report on domestic right-wing terrorism, it's your prerogative to dismiss it. If fifteen different major media outlets print a University study by terrorism experts you have a right to dismiss it and apply your own set of analyses come to your own conclusions etc. Keep doing what you're doing, I hope it works for you. Call it bullshit and recalculate the numbers if that make you feel better but it won't reduce terrorist attacks.
(http://cdn.thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/16135427/rightwing-jihadists-2.png)
I can't think of 1 news outlet or liberal college that would have a political agenda and manipulate data....
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I can't think of 1 news outlet or liberal college that would have a political agenda and manipulate data....
so what's the specific political agenda at work here?
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so what's the specific political agenda at work here?
Can you at least provide consistent data if you are going to try and defend your point. Your first link doesn't agree with your last graph
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Can you at least provide consistent data if you are going to try and defend your point. Your first link doesn't agree with your last graph
the data on the website is updated to include the latest stats. the graphs are from a period before the latest jihadi shooting spree. They haven't been updated fully yet :D
let me know about this agenda. eagerly awaiting that material.
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the data on the website is updated to include the latest stats. the graphs are from a period before the latest jihadi shooting spree. They haven't been updated fully yet :D
let me know about this agenda. eagerly awaiting that material.
In a generation where people use terms like white guilt/privilege regularly, and our president says things like isis is the jv team, I can't imagine where you would find it hard to skew data in a direction that deflects criticism away from muslims. The studies that you presented are even flawed in the sense that they outright ignore 9/11 because it would make the data so lopsided there would be no point in debating. How convenient that your data starts the year after the worst terror event in history. I gave you the numbers. I'm sorry you choose to ignore them or can't comprehend them.
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Not too mention the amount of jihadist plans thwarted vs home grown right wingers is night and day
To, too and two. Figure it out.
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To, too and two. Figure it out.
"To help two people is too much trouble" is a great way to remember it. :)
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In a generation where people use terms like white guilt/privilege regularly, and our president says things like isis is the jv team, I can't imagine where you would find it hard to skew data in a direction that deflects criticism away from muslims. The studies that you presented are even flawed in the sense that they outright ignore 9/11 because it would make the data so lopsided there would be no point in debating. How convenient that your data starts the year after the worst terror event in history. I gave you the numbers. I'm sorry you choose to ignore them or can't comprehend them.
I think the point of starting after 9/11 is to understand the effect of the new legal environment, anti-terror practices etc. That's only interesting if you're concerned with doing things that work. The study is also confined to "home grown terrorism". If you want to discuss international terrorism that's a different subject but happy to discuss 9/11 too. Those guys were mostly Saudis.
There are two possibilities. One is that there is an agenda across several law enforcement and security agencies to present a false picture and deflect attention from muslims. I guess it's to curry favor with a certain political segment? OK. Or possibility number two is when the FBI, DHS etc. says the most pervasive domestic terror threat is white supremacists that they really mean it.
If you like to do your own analysis you should check out the reporting of the shooting at the planned parenthood clinic and compare it to the San Bernardino shooting. I think they happened about the same time. This would be the perfect way to prove your case of bias in the media and how these topics are reported. Let me know what you find!
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I think the point of starting after 9/11 is to understand the effect of the new legal environment, anti-terror practices etc. That's only interesting if you're concerned with doing things that work. The study is also is confined to "home grown terrorism". If you want to discuss international terrorism that's a different subject but happy to discuss 9/11 too. Those guys were mostly Saudis.
There are two possibilities. One is that there is an agenda across several law enforcement and security agencies to present a false picture and deflect attention from muslims. I guess it's to curry favor with a certain political segment? OK. Or possibility number two is when the FBI, DHS etc. says the most pervasive domestic terror threat is white supremacists that they really mean it.
If you like to do your own analysis you should check out the reporting of the shooting at the planned parenthood clinic and compare it to the San Bernardino shooting. I think they happened about the same time. This would be the perfect way to prove your case of bias in the media and how these topics are reported. Let me know what you find!
I think the point if starting after 9/11 is to tilt the data in favor of a particular narrative. A muslim has a higher percentage to commit a terroristic attack per your data. I didn't provide it, you did. They are sorely misrepresented in terms of population yet they still commit nearly the same terroristic acts. I dont expect you to acknowledge this because this is the same argument that has been made about blacks and the rate they commit crimes for years. You will hear nothing of it and completely ignore the occurrences per population
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like I said, let me know how you arrived at this conclusion and where you get your information. . For now I'll stick with well known terrorism experts, experts at FBI and DHS etc.
Looking forward to seeing the reports, studies to support your claims.
Are you retarded? Skip your pills today?
What he is saying is that relative % wise. A higher percentage of the tiny muslim population in USA commits terrorists acts against USA and its law abiding citizens compared to the percentage of extreme right-wingers who commit terrorist acts.
How about this, assuming pop of usa is 320 million. 70% of 320 is 224 million. Also 1% of 320 is 3.2 million. So
If if out of 224 million 500 right wingers comitted terrorism that's 0.00000223214%.
If out of 3.2 million, 200 muslims commited jihadi terrorism that's 0.0000625%.
Do you see how much of a difference that is?!?! Its separated by a factor of 20. Muslims are more likely to commit terrorists acts that will kill American citizens compared to Christians.
Did you learn common core math or something?
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I think the point if starting after 9/11 is to tilt the data in favor of a particular narrative. A muslim has a higher percentage to commit a terroristic attack per your data. I didn't provide it, you did. They are sorely misrepresented in terms of population yet they still commit nearly the same terroristic acts. I dont expect you to acknowledge this because this is the same argument that has been made about blacks and the rate they commit crimes for years. You will hear nothing of it and completely ignore the occurrences per population
It doesn't qualify as a bigger problem if the numbers aren't greater in quantity. Very simple no calculations needed. It's not my opinion maybe you should email the authors of the reports or write a letter to the FBI. Regardless, as you stated, the percentages are so low as to represent an anomaly so whats the point?
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Are you retarded? Skip your pills today?
What he is saying is that relative % wise. A higher percentage of the tiny muslim population in USA commits terrorists acts against USA and its law abiding citizens compared to the percentage of extreme right-wingers who commit terrorist acts.
How about this, assuming pop of usa is 320 million. 70% of 320 is 224 million. Also 1% of 320 is 3.2 million. So
If if out of 224 million 500 right wingers comitted terrorism that's 0.00000223214%.
If out of 3.2 million, 200 muslims commited jihadi terrorism that's 0.0000625%.
Do you see how much of a difference that is?!?! Its separated by a factor of 20. Muslims are more likely to commit terrorists acts that will kill American citizens compared to Christians.
Did you learn common core math or something?
dead is dead it's not a matter of hitting a certain percentage per capita. Ignoring the facts doesn't help.
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Are you retarded? Skip your pills today?
What he is saying is that relative % wise. A higher percentage of the tiny muslim population in USA commits terrorists acts against USA and its law abiding citizens compared to the percentage of extreme right-wingers who commit terrorist acts.
How about this, assuming pop of usa is 320 million. 70% of 320 is 224 million. Also 1% of 320 is 3.2 million. So
If if out of 224 million 500 right wingers comitted terrorism that's 0.00000223214%.
If out of 3.2 million, 200 muslims commited jihadi terrorism that's 0.0000625%.
Do you see how much of a difference that is?!?! Its separated by a factor of 20. Muslims are more likely to commit terrorists acts that will kill American citizens compared to Christians.
Did you learn common core math or something?
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/ca02386190d5244b9f97e2435aa7b703/tumblr_nqx90zleun1s7y044o1_500.gif)
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some remarks from the Department of Justice:
Looking back over the past few years it is quite clear that domestic terrorists and homegrown violent extremists remain a clear and present danger here inside the United States. We recognize that according to at least one study more people died in this country in attacks by domestic extremists than attacks associated with international terrorist groups over the last, say, five to six years.
First, as our SPLC colleagues can attest, racial hatred motivates many of the violent extremist attacks. The Attorney General noted this summer that these kinds of hate crimes are the original domestic terrorism. Among domestic extremist movements active in the United States, white supremacists are the most violent. The Charleston shooter, who had a manifesto laying out a racist worldview, is just one example. His actions followed earlier deadly shooting sprees by white supremacists in Kansas, Wisconsin and elsewhere.
http://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/assistant-attorney-general-john-p-carlin-delivers-remarks-domestic-terrorism-event-co
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Bottom line: Islam is repulsive and will eventually be outlawed in many non-muslim nations. There simply is no other way. When the masses finally have enough and/or awaken to its true horrors, Islam will be bye-bye.
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Bottom line: Islam is repulsive and will eventually be outlawed in many non-muslim nations. There simply is no other way. When the masses finally have enough and/or awaken to its true horrors, Islam will be bye-bye.
bonehead
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bonehead
Towelhead
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Bottom line: Islam is repulsive and will eventually be outlawed in many non-muslim nations. There simply is no other way. When the masses finally have enough and/or awaken to its true horrors, Islam will be bye-bye.
While I think Mr turbo is In complete denial and will ignore the facts in anyway he can, islamic terrorist are still quite the anomaly in the u.s.
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ok but you just decided arbitrarily that this was an appropriate analysis. To be honest I don't get it totally. I don't have an opinion but the data indicates that whitey is at least as bad as the jihadi factor. No need for 10 decimal points of precision.
If the terrorism experts at West Point put out a 150 page report on domestic right-wing terrorism, it's your prerogative to dismiss it. If fifteen different major media outlets print a University study by terrorism experts you have a right to dismiss it and apply your own set of analyses come to your own conclusions etc. Keep doing what you're doing, I hope it works for you. Call it bullshit and recalculate the numbers if that make you feel better but it won't reduce terrorist attacks.
(http://cdn.thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/16135427/rightwing-jihadists-2.png)
"Right wing attacks" ::)
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ok but you just decided arbitrarily that this was an appropriate analysis. To be honest I don't get it totally. I don't have an opinion but the data indicates that whitey is at least as bad as the jihadi factor. No need for 10 decimal points of precision.
If the terrorism experts at West Point put out a 150 page report on domestic right-wing terrorism, it's your prerogative to dismiss it. If fifteen different major media outlets print a University study by terrorism experts you have a right to dismiss it and apply your own set of analyses come to your own conclusions etc. Keep doing what you're doing, I hope it works for you. Call it bullshit and recalculate the numbers if that make you feel better but it won't reduce terrorist attacks.
(http://cdn.thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/16135427/rightwing-jihadists-2.png)
That graph is hilarious. Between Fort Hood and San Bernardino alone, we've exceeded those numbers. Just because Obama calls them workplace incidents committed by Radical Muslims against innocent American non-Muslims doesn't make it so.
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some remarks from the Department of Justice:
Looking back over the past few years it is quite clear that domestic terrorists and homegrown violent extremists remain a clear and present danger here inside the United States. We recognize that according to at least one study more people died in this country in attacks by domestic extremists than attacks associated with international terrorist groups over the last, say, five to six years.
First, as our SPLC colleagues can attest, racial hatred motivates many of the violent extremist attacks. The Attorney General noted this summer that these kinds of hate crimes are the original domestic terrorism. Among domestic extremist movements active in the United States, white supremacists are the most violent. The Charleston shooter, who had a manifesto laying out a racist worldview, is just one example. His actions followed earlier deadly shooting sprees by white supremacists in Kansas, Wisconsin and elsewhere.
http://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/assistant-attorney-general-john-p-carlin-delivers-remarks-domestic-terrorism-event-co
Since you are adamantly defending these statistics, and you claim they didn't include 9/11 as a result of the securities we put in place as a result of that incident, then you must also agree with the following assertion. George Bush allowed only 3 jihadist murders after 9/11 and only 3 far right wing extremist murders after 9/11. Obama's shitty terror policies allowed the other 42 jihadist murderss and the other 45 far right wing extremist murders. I'm just going off your data with those numbers. From 9/12/2001 until obama took office, Bush allowed only 6 of these murders as a result of the security that you claim comes as a result of 9/11, thus why they weren't included in the data. Obama completely screwed up Bush's security and has since allowed 87 of these murders from 2009-now.
I know you aren't so good with the math, but that seems to be around the exact same time span.
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LOL @ mr turdball trying to play statician and not realizing what a fool he comes out looking.
No one could be this big of a fool. He's clearly part of the Obama/Media misinformation campaign.
This baloney is being spread around intentionally in order to blur the lines of reality and dupe people that don't take the time to educate themselves.
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That's one big elephant.
"Globalization" at its finest.
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I'd be curious to now how they defined attacks.
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Plenty of Muslims are Caucasian.
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Plenty of Muslims are Caucasian.
Not sure if trolling. Some, yes. Plenty, no
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Plenty of Muslims are Caucasian.
Arabs are Caucasian as well as many other Middle Easterners, northern Indians are also Caucasian.
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some remarks from the Department of Justice:
Looking back over the past few years it is quite clear that domestic terrorists and homegrown violent extremists remain a clear and present danger here inside the United States. We recognize that according to at least one study more people died in this country in attacks by domestic extremists than attacks associated with international terrorist groups over the last, say, five to six years.
First, as our SPLC colleagues can attest, racial hatred motivates many of the violent extremist attacks. The Attorney General noted this summer that these kinds of hate crimes are the original domestic terrorism. Among domestic extremist movements active in the United States, white supremacists are the most violent. The Charleston shooter, who had a manifesto laying out a racist worldview, is just one example. His actions followed earlier deadly shooting sprees by white supremacists in Kansas, Wisconsin and elsewhere.
http://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/assistant-attorney-general-john-p-carlin-delivers-remarks-domestic-terrorism-event-co
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Typical PC bullshit
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Typical PC bullshit
Is this because a white kid shot up a church?
I really ask seriously because I don't see many white supremacist killings on the news, but I do see islamic terrorism quite a bit.
Why is it all of the things we SEE seem to lead to one thing, but the "official reports" seem to lead to another.
What's that VERY old saying about believing 1/2 of what you see and none of what you hear? (or in this case, read)
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"Right wing attacks" ::)
exactly. if memory serves, a good percentage of these "right wing attacks" were by "lefties".
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Is this because a white kid shot up a church?
I really ask seriously because I don't see many white supremacist killings on the news, but I do see islamic terrorism quite a bit.
Why is it all of the things we SEE seem to lead to one thing, but the "official reports" seem to lead to another.
What's that VERY old saying about believing 1/2 of what you see and none of what you hear? (or in this case, read)
The reason the government continues to call WP groups a threat is because most are ant-government, has very little to do with actual crimes organized by groups. Most of the crimes carried out in the name of WP are carried out by lone wolves and almost never claimed by an organization.
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The reason the government continues to call WP groups a threat is because most are ant-government, has very little to do with actual crimes organized by groups. Most of the crimes carried out in the name of WP are carried out by lone wolves and almost never claimed by an organization.
This is a good point. When was the last time the KKK said, "Yeah, we did that."
Now of course, it's because they are an organization operating in the US and they don't want any heat, but still, It's not like ISIS, who, in fact, are jumping up and taking credit for everything that is done today.
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conehead getting defensive again, ready at any moment to fly into another extreme tizzy
a wise man once said "you're part of the problem"
He's not part of the problem, you are. And if you are an American, you are a traitor
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Towelhead
;D
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All non muslin country's Should do as Japan Does.
And Not Accept or Reconize muslins & their religion
If it should be called that.
muslins = Fucked up people with Fucked up beliefs.
Generally speaking I can't Stand them, No not all
But Most of them...
Never Ever Trust Them.
As for Mr Turbo,
you are either a muslim
A wind up merchant
A idiot
A sympathiser
A traitor
Or Very Likely all of the above.
Please do not respond turbo as I really could not care any less for your thoughts/ ideas / anwser.
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Anything the douchbags at the southern poverty law center have to say ought to be discarded immediately.
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here's some more comments from the DOJ - Assistant Attorney General John P. Carlin
(https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_908w/2010-2019/Wires/Images/2015-10-06/Bloomberg/240848978.jpg&w=1484)
He said he was struck by the difference in attention to two different acts of terrorism in 2011. One was the arrest of Khalid Ali-M Aldawsari, a Saudi citizen and Texas resident, who was accused of plotting to build a bomb and researching potential U.S. targets, including former president George W. Bush.
Around the same time, a man with ties to a neo-Nazi group planted a pipe bomb along the route of a Martin Luther King Jr. Day parade in Washington state, and his intent was to kill and maim, Carlin said. A parade worker spotted the bomb, and law enforcement officials defused it. Kevin William Harpham was sentenced to 32 years in prison.
But, said Carlin, who was senior counsel to then-FBI Director Robert S. Mueller, “the Aldawsari case got a lot more public attention.” It was discussed at National Security Council meetings. And prosecutors had a variety of legal tools they could use.
Although the Harpham case had Mueller’s “full attention” and “hundreds of FBI agents” and local law enforcement officers were on the case, “it didn’t get as much public attention. And you didn’t have the same tools available to you.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/10/15/how-the-justice-department-is-stepping-up-its-response-to-domestic-extremists/
:o
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Since you are adamantly defending these statistics, and you claim they didn't include 9/11 as a result of the securities we put in place as a result of that incident, then you must also agree with the following assertion. George Bush allowed only 3 jihadist murders after 9/11 and only 3 far right wing extremist murders after 9/11. Obama's shitty terror policies allowed the other 42 jihadist murderss and the other 45 far right wing extremist murders. I'm just going off your data with those numbers. From 9/12/2001 until obama took office, Bush allowed only 6 of these murders as a result of the security that you claim comes as a result of 9/11, thus why they weren't included in the data. Obama completely screwed up Bush's security and has since allowed 87 of these murders from 2009-now.
I know you aren't so good with the math, but that seems to be around the exact same time span.
yes those are not good numbers. perhaps we should be doing things like bush?
:o
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He's not part of the problem, you are. And if you are an American, you are a traitor
doofus
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Incidents were a month apart, not "about the same time".
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Incidents were a month apart, not "about the same time".
The media environment doesn't typically change in a month, but like I suggested to iwantmass, if you like to do your own analysis you should look at the planned parenthood shooter and compare to the the san bernardino case. I think they were closer together. This would be a good example to show any sort of bias.
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The media environment doesn't typically change in a month, but like I suggested to iwantmass, if you like to do your own analysis you should look at the planned parenthood shooter and compare to the the san bernardino case. I think they were closer together. This would be a good example to show any sort of bias.
Who cares
Nobody except Muslims wants Muslims around, hopefully the whole welfare grabbing, whingebag, dirty bearded tramps religion will be made illegal outside Islamic countries in the near future
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Who cares
Nobody except Muslims wants Muslims around, hopefully the whole welfare grabbing, whingebag, dirty bearded tramps religion will be made illegal outside Islamic countries in the near future
thank you for your input on this
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The media environment doesn't typically change in a month, but like I suggested to iwantmass, if you like to do your own analysis you should look at the planned parenthood shooter and compare to the the san bernardino case. I think they were closer together. This would be a good example to show any sort of bias.
No idea where you're from but the planned parenthood shit was all over news as well.
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No idea where you're from but the planned parenthood shit was all over news as well.
Absolutely. It was HUGE news and was running for days.
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yes those are not good numbers. perhaps we should be doing things like bush?
:o
That doesn't really address bush's stance on security versus obama, but I can see why you wouldn't provide a serious response since obama has botched the security since taking over
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Absolutely. It was HUGE news and was running for days.
Maybe mr turdball isn't American?
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No idea where you're from but the planned parenthood shit was all over news as well.
hey look I haven't analysed it. you're the one who's quibbling over timeframes for case studies. The point is to look at the coverage comparatively conehead.
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hey look I haven't analysed it. you're the one who's quibbling over timeframes for case studies. The point is to look at the coverage comparatively conehead.
And I do turdball, fact is the media decides what to plaster all over.
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The media knows what people want to see.
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anyone who shoots up a fcking civilian target is a terrorist.
I don't care if it's a white christian shooting up an abortion clinic, an eskimo kid shoowing up a school, or an arab shooting up a hospital. They're using violence to terrorize others. Those getting shot aren't saying "well, at least I'm being killed due to christian anti-abortion sentiment instead of the koran"... they're equally terrified.
all this shit about "all the terrorists are muslims...", I have to disagree. ANY race or religion that shoots people up is terrorizing them. So much rage at brown people doing it for religion, but I don't see equal rage about the abortion clinic shot up.
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anyone who shoots up a fcking civilian target is a terrorist.
I don't care if it's a white christian shooting up an abortion clinic, an eskimo kid shoowing up a school, or an arab shooting up a hospital. They're using violence to terrorize others. Those getting shot aren't saying "well, at least I'm being killed due to christian anti-abortion sentiment instead of the koran"... they're equally terrified.
all this shit about "all the terrorists are muslims...", I have to disagree. ANY race or religion that shoots people up is terrorizing them. So much rage at brown people doing it for religion, but I don't see equal rage about the abortion clinic shot up.
While I see where you're going, I have to say that I don't necessarily agree "exactly".
Mostly because the premise of terrorism has to have some reasoning behind it so they can inflict fear on others due to some means.
Like if you walk in and commit a crime and shoot someone for money, that's not terrorism. Not in the premise we know it to be.
Now if you do it for some deep reason that's not just "money" or whatever, then yeah, you're a terrorist.
Most targets are "civilian".
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social, religion or politics being the reason? I think that is how most define terrorism.
boil down any of those school shootings, it's social.
religion is most attacks. politics weighs in.
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Was Columbine terrorism?
I say it wasn't.
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I personally think most white supremacist are pussies and pose no threat. The kkk is done. Neo nazi are a joke. Every once and a while, we like to post pics of feces swatstikas at black dormitories, but to be truthful, most of those guys are pussificied pieces of shit. Most of them would never confront a black person in public, let alone assault 1.
We can try and push a narrative towards white supremacist being a big problem, but they aren't
Mr turbo presents his skewed data and ignores every piece of.evidence to the contrary. Are most muslims a problem? No. Is the major terrorism threat in this country muslim? Yes
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Muslims actively preach their support for violence and terrorism in mosques in the US and abroad. They are indoctrinating an entire generation with hate for all non-muslims. You cannot doubt this as there is ample video of their training camps for kids and teenagers being groomed to become the next generation of suicide bombers and terrorists. The worst the White Supremacists do is prepare for the never-existent race war by stockpiling guns and building their bomb/zombie shelters. It's not even close to the same. But as someone touched on, the real problem is the media trying to sell clicks and ads through divisiveness, race baiting, terrorism scares and anything else they can do to make money ever since their newspapers died out.
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not a big problem: ::)
http://lasvegassun.com/news/2014/jun/09/look/
http://blog.chron.com/newswatch/2011/07/wfaa-firebomb-tossed-toward-planned-parenthood-office/
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2015/sep/04/police-investigation-suspicious-fire-planned-paren/
http://www.startribune.com/man-charged-with-driving-into-planned-parenthood-facility/38230064/?elr=KArksi8cyaiUjc7YUiD3aPc%3A_Yyc%3AaUU&refer=y
http://www.austindailyherald.com/2012/09/sam-johnson-sentenced-to-15-years-in-prison/
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/09/20/inside-the-georgia-militia-murders.html
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2012/sikh-temple-killer-wade-michael-page-radicalized-army
http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Alleged-gunman-says-he-wanted-a-revolution-3180744.php
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/12/01/police-austin-shooter-belonged-to-an-ultra-conservative-christian-hate-group/
http://www.indystar.com/article/20130411/NEWS02/304110029/
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/04/us/prosecutors-to-seek-death-penalty-for-dylann-roof-in-charleston-shootings.html
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not a big problem: ::)
http://lasvegassun.com/news/2014/jun/09/look/
http://blog.chron.com/newswatch/2011/07/wfaa-firebomb-tossed-toward-planned-parenthood-office/
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2015/sep/04/police-investigation-suspicious-fire-planned-paren/
http://www.startribune.com/man-charged-with-driving-into-planned-parenthood-facility/38230064/?elr=KArksi8cyaiUjc7YUiD3aPc%3A_Yyc%3AaUU&refer=y
http://www.austindailyherald.com/2012/09/sam-johnson-sentenced-to-15-years-in-prison/
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/09/20/inside-the-georgia-militia-murders.html
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2012/sikh-temple-killer-wade-michael-page-radicalized-army
http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Alleged-gunman-says-he-wanted-a-revolution-3180744.php
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/12/01/police-austin-shooter-belonged-to-an-ultra-conservative-christian-hate-group/
http://www.indystar.com/article/20130411/NEWS02/304110029/
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/04/us/prosecutors-to-seek-death-penalty-for-dylann-roof-in-charleston-shootings.html
Not a big problem
http://cchs.gwu.edu/isis-in-america
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Not a big problem
http://cchs.gwu.edu/isis-in-america
from your report:
Defying any cookie-cutter profile of the American ISIS supporter, these 71 individuals constitute an incredibly heterogeneous group. In fact, they come from an array of ethnic groups and a range of socio-economic and educational statuses. What follows is one of the largest online collections of legal records related to ISIS radicalization and recruitment in the United States.
half the folks on the list look like this fyi (after scanning the first 10 or so):
(http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site101/2015/0716/20150716_081329_CiccoloBooked_400.jpg)
(http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/heatherbelong2us.jpg)
(https://mgtvwate.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/blair.jpg?w=638)
(http://media.thedenverchannel.com/photo/2014/07/03/Shannon_Conley4_1404414267491_6660814_ver1.0_640_480.jpg)
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???
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from your report:
Defying any cookie-cutter profile of the American ISIS supporter, these 71 individuals constitute an incredibly heterogeneous group. In fact, they come from an array of ethnic groups and a range of socio-economic and educational statuses. What follows is one of the largest online collections of legal records related to ISIS radicalization and recruitment in the United States.
half the folks on the list look like this fyi:
(http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site101/2015/0716/20150716_081329_CiccoloBooked_400.jpg)
(http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/heatherbelong2us.jpg)
(https://mgtvwate.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/blair.jpg?w=638)
???
And then?
What do they all have in common?
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And then?
What do they all have in common?
european ancestry?
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european ancestry?
Islamic beliefs?
Supporting terrorist groups?
Believing a pedophile faggot is some kind of prophet?
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Islamic beliefs?
Supporting terrorist groups?
Believing a pedophile faggot is some kind of prophet?
The thread title says "terrorists are not white".
Unfortunately, the truth is whitey likes to join up with all manner of radical and extreme causes.
Relieved to see you embracing serious examination of the issue.
What's interesting to me is the report says 40% are converts to islam, the converts are way overrepresented.
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The thread title says "terrorists are not white".
Unfortunately, the truth is whitey likes to join up with all manner of radical and extreme causes.
Relieved to see you embracing serious examination of the issue.
What's interesting to me is the report says 40% are converts to islam, the converts are way overrepresented.
Thread titles mean nothing on getbig
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what's the verdict here?
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what's the verdict here?
You suck dick for sport and more than likely take it in the ass.
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Yeah, right wing are "terrorists". ;D
Libtards should look around and check out what happens when muslims come to other countries and whats happening in their countries.
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You suck dick for sport and more than likely take it in the ass.
whoa you seem upset again! settle down big fella!
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In its annual count of militias, released today, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) identified 276 militia groups – up from 202 in 2014, a 37 percent increase.
The number represents a renewal of growth after several years of declines. The movement grew explosively after President Obama was elected, from 42 groups in 2008 to a peak of 334 in 2011 before declining in recent years.
What’s happening in Oregon was entirely predictable.
:o
https://www.splcenter.org/news/2016/01/04/antigovernment-militia-groups-grew-more-one-third-last-year
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In its annual count of militias, released today, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) identified 276 militia groups – up from 202 in 2014, a 37 percent increase.
The number represents a renewal of growth after several years of declines. The movement grew explosively after President Obama was elected, from 42 groups in 2008 to a peak of 334 in 2011 before declining in recent years.
What’s happening in Oregon was entirely predictable.
:o
https://www.splcenter.org/news/2016/01/04/antigovernment-militia-groups-grew-more-one-third-last-year
Thanks Obama
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Thanks Obama
“We believe these armed extremists have been emboldened by what they saw as a clear victory at the Cliven Bundy ranch and the fact that no one was held accountable for taking up arms against agents of the federal government,” said Heidi Beirich, director of the SPLC’s Intelligence Project.
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“We believe these armed extremists have been emboldened by what they saw as a clear victory at the Cliven Bundy ranch and the fact that no one was held accountable for taking up arms against agents of the federal government,” said Heidi Beirich, director of the SPLC’s Intelligence Project.
Thanks Obama
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puzzling situation
One can only assume they don't want to give the Bundys undue attention by engaging (prosecuting) at the "federal level", which may provide an opportunity to further their anti-government agenda. By that logic the big mistake was BLM going after the cattle in the first place without the ability to finish the job.
looks like they're leaving the current situation in the hands of the locals yokels. Even if they bungle it, it seems like the right strategy. Just let the thing self-destruct without offering any new PR material.
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puzzling situation
One can only assume they don't want to give the Bundys undue attention by engaging (prosecuting) at the "federal level", which may provide an opportunity to further their anti-government agenda. By that logic the big mistake was BLM going after the cattle in the first place without the ability to finish the job.
looks like they're leaving the current situation in the hands of the locals yokels. Even if they bungle it, it seems like the right strategy. Just let the thing self-destruct without offering any new PR material.
additionally, when you have republicans lending public support to the bundy family (strange given that they want to overthrow the federal government!) it creates an awkward and confusing political situation. I think it also shows how far gone the GOP is when they feel the need to court these highly dangerous groups.
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/01/03/3735627/gop-candidates-who-supported-cliven-bundy/
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"it's like cancer"
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puzzling situation
One can only assume they don't want to give the Bundys undue attention by engaging (prosecuting) at the "federal level", which may provide an opportunity to further their anti-government agenda. By that logic the big mistake was BLM going after the cattle in the first place without the ability to finish the job.
looks like they're leaving the current situation in the hands of the locals yokels. Even if they bungle it, it seems like the right strategy. Just let the thing self-destruct without offering any new PR material.
Why would BlackLivesMatter go after cattle? Aren't most blacks lactose-intolerant?
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Why would BlackLivesMatter go after cattle? Aren't most blacks lactose-intolerant?
:D
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getbigger
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(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTP_gu7-v3xVw8ptCoJZthFGpco1TJUZnQ6fIU7497EIZtNepf5Xg)
(http://insider.foxnews.com/sites/insider.foxnews.com/files/styles/780/public/Roof_0.jpg?itok=6GhJIoRU)