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Re: Elephant in the room: terrorists are not white and are Muslim
« Reply #50 on: January 01, 2016, 04:53:03 PM »
Are you retarded? Skip your pills today?

What he is saying is that relative % wise. A higher percentage of the tiny muslim population in USA commits terrorists acts against USA and its law abiding citizens compared to the percentage of extreme right-wingers who commit terrorist acts.


How about this, assuming pop of usa is 320 million. 70% of 320 is 224 million. Also 1% of 320 is 3.2 million. So

If if out of 224 million 500 right wingers comitted terrorism that's  0.00000223214%.

If out of 3.2 million, 200 muslims commited jihadi terrorism that's 0.0000625%.

Do you see how much of a difference that is?!?!  Its separated by a factor of 20. Muslims are more likely to commit terrorists acts that will kill American citizens compared to Christians.



Did you learn common core math or something?

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Re: Elephant in the room: terrorists are not white and are Muslim
« Reply #51 on: January 01, 2016, 04:55:24 PM »
Are you retarded? Skip your pills today?

What he is saying is that relative % wise. A higher percentage of the tiny muslim population in USA commits terrorists acts against USA and its law abiding citizens compared to the percentage of extreme right-wingers who commit terrorist acts.


How about this, assuming pop of usa is 320 million. 70% of 320 is 224 million. Also 1% of 320 is 3.2 million. So

If if out of 224 million 500 right wingers comitted terrorism that's  0.00000223214%.

If out of 3.2 million, 200 muslims commited jihadi terrorism that's 0.0000625%.

Do you see how much of a difference that is?!?!  Its separated by a factor of 20. Muslims are more likely to commit terrorists acts that will kill American citizens compared to Christians.



Did you learn common core math or something?

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Re: Elephant in the room: terrorists are not white and are Muslim
« Reply #52 on: January 01, 2016, 05:22:38 PM »
some remarks from the Department of Justice:

Looking back over the past few years it is quite clear that domestic terrorists and homegrown violent extremists remain a clear and present danger here inside the United States. We recognize that according to at least one study more people died in this country in attacks by domestic extremists than attacks associated with international terrorist groups over the last, say, five to six years.

First, as our SPLC colleagues can attest, racial hatred motivates many of the violent extremist attacks.  The Attorney General noted this summer that these kinds of hate crimes are the original domestic terrorism. Among domestic extremist movements active in the United States, white supremacists are the most violent.  The Charleston shooter, who had a manifesto laying out a racist worldview, is just one example.  His actions followed earlier deadly shooting sprees by white supremacists in Kansas, Wisconsin and elsewhere.


http://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/assistant-attorney-general-john-p-carlin-delivers-remarks-domestic-terrorism-event-co
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Re: Elephant in the room: terrorists are not white and are Muslim
« Reply #53 on: January 01, 2016, 05:30:35 PM »
Bottom line: Islam is repulsive and will eventually be outlawed in many non-muslim nations. There simply is no other way. When the masses finally have enough and/or awaken to its true horrors, Islam will be bye-bye.


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Re: Elephant in the room: terrorists are not white and are Muslim
« Reply #54 on: January 01, 2016, 05:51:36 PM »
Bottom line: Islam is repulsive and will eventually be outlawed in many non-muslim nations. There simply is no other way. When the masses finally have enough and/or awaken to its true horrors, Islam will be bye-bye.



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Re: Elephant in the room: terrorists are not white and are Muslim
« Reply #56 on: January 01, 2016, 08:50:13 PM »
Bottom line: Islam is repulsive and will eventually be outlawed in many non-muslim nations. There simply is no other way. When the masses finally have enough and/or awaken to its true horrors, Islam will be bye-bye.



While I think Mr turbo is In complete denial and will ignore the facts in anyway he can, islamic terrorist are still quite the anomaly in the u.s. 

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Re: Elephant in the room: terrorists are not white and are Muslim
« Reply #57 on: January 01, 2016, 10:28:29 PM »
ok but you just decided arbitrarily that this was an appropriate analysis. To be honest I don't get it totally. I don't have an opinion but the data indicates that whitey is at least as bad as the jihadi factor. No need for 10 decimal points of precision.

If the terrorism experts at West Point put out a 150 page report on domestic right-wing terrorism, it's your prerogative to dismiss it. If fifteen different major media outlets print a University study by terrorism experts you have a right to dismiss it and apply your own set of analyses come to your own conclusions etc.  Keep doing what you're doing, I hope it works for you. Call it bullshit and recalculate the numbers if that make you feel better but it won't reduce terrorist attacks.



"Right wing attacks"  ::)

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Re: Elephant in the room: terrorists are not white and are Muslim
« Reply #58 on: January 01, 2016, 11:33:13 PM »
ok but you just decided arbitrarily that this was an appropriate analysis. To be honest I don't get it totally. I don't have an opinion but the data indicates that whitey is at least as bad as the jihadi factor. No need for 10 decimal points of precision.

If the terrorism experts at West Point put out a 150 page report on domestic right-wing terrorism, it's your prerogative to dismiss it. If fifteen different major media outlets print a University study by terrorism experts you have a right to dismiss it and apply your own set of analyses come to your own conclusions etc.  Keep doing what you're doing, I hope it works for you. Call it bullshit and recalculate the numbers if that make you feel better but it won't reduce terrorist attacks.


That graph is hilarious. Between Fort Hood and San Bernardino alone, we've exceeded those numbers. Just because Obama calls them workplace incidents committed by Radical Muslims against innocent American non-Muslims doesn't make it so.

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Re: Elephant in the room: terrorists are not white and are Muslim
« Reply #59 on: January 02, 2016, 04:16:19 AM »
some remarks from the Department of Justice:

Looking back over the past few years it is quite clear that domestic terrorists and homegrown violent extremists remain a clear and present danger here inside the United States. We recognize that according to at least one study more people died in this country in attacks by domestic extremists than attacks associated with international terrorist groups over the last, say, five to six years.

First, as our SPLC colleagues can attest, racial hatred motivates many of the violent extremist attacks.  The Attorney General noted this summer that these kinds of hate crimes are the original domestic terrorism. Among domestic extremist movements active in the United States, white supremacists are the most violent.  The Charleston shooter, who had a manifesto laying out a racist worldview, is just one example.  His actions followed earlier deadly shooting sprees by white supremacists in Kansas, Wisconsin and elsewhere.


http://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/assistant-attorney-general-john-p-carlin-delivers-remarks-domestic-terrorism-event-co

Since you are adamantly defending these statistics, and you claim they didn't include 9/11 as a result of the securities we put in place as a result of that incident, then you must also agree with the following assertion.  George Bush allowed only 3 jihadist murders after 9/11 and only 3 far right wing extremist murders after 9/11.  Obama's shitty terror policies allowed the other 42 jihadist murderss and the other 45 far right wing extremist murders.  I'm just going off your data with those numbers.  From 9/12/2001 until obama took office, Bush allowed only 6 of these murders as a result of the security that you claim comes as a result of 9/11, thus why they weren't included in the data.  Obama completely screwed up Bush's security and has since allowed 87 of these murders from 2009-now.  

I know you aren't so good with the math, but that seems to be around the exact same time span. 

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Re: Elephant in the room: terrorists are not white and are Muslim
« Reply #60 on: January 02, 2016, 05:42:27 AM »
LOL @ mr turdball trying to play statician and not realizing what a fool he comes out looking.


No one could be this big of a fool.  He's clearly part of the Obama/Media misinformation campaign. 

This baloney is being spread around intentionally in order to blur the lines of reality and dupe people that don't take the time to educate themselves.

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Re: Elephant in the room: terrorists are not white and are Muslim
« Reply #61 on: January 02, 2016, 06:36:52 AM »
That's one big elephant.
"Globalization" at its finest.
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Re: Elephant in the room: terrorists are not white and are Muslim
« Reply #62 on: January 02, 2016, 07:48:02 AM »
I'd be curious to now how they defined attacks.

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Re: Elephant in the room: terrorists are not white and are Muslim
« Reply #63 on: January 02, 2016, 10:26:43 AM »
Plenty of Muslims are Caucasian.

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Re: Elephant in the room: terrorists are not white and are Muslim
« Reply #64 on: January 02, 2016, 10:44:15 AM »
Plenty of Muslims are Caucasian.

Not sure if trolling. Some, yes. Plenty, no

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Re: Elephant in the room: terrorists are not white and are Muslim
« Reply #65 on: January 02, 2016, 10:52:57 AM »
Plenty of Muslims are Caucasian.

Arabs are Caucasian as well as many other Middle Easterners, northern Indians are also Caucasian.

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Re: Elephant in the room: terrorists are not white and are Muslim
« Reply #66 on: January 02, 2016, 12:20:51 PM »
some remarks from the Department of Justice:

Looking back over the past few years it is quite clear that domestic terrorists and homegrown violent extremists remain a clear and present danger here inside the United States. We recognize that according to at least one study more people died in this country in attacks by domestic extremists than attacks associated with international terrorist groups over the last, say, five to six years.

First, as our SPLC colleagues can attest, racial hatred motivates many of the violent extremist attacks.  The Attorney General noted this summer that these kinds of hate crimes are the original domestic terrorism. Among domestic extremist movements active in the United States, white supremacists are the most violent.  The Charleston shooter, who had a manifesto laying out a racist worldview, is just one example.  His actions followed earlier deadly shooting sprees by white supremacists in Kansas, Wisconsin and elsewhere.


http://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/assistant-attorney-general-john-p-carlin-delivers-remarks-domestic-terrorism-event-co
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Typical PC bullshit
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Re: Elephant in the room: terrorists are not white and are Muslim
« Reply #67 on: January 02, 2016, 12:25:12 PM »
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Typical PC bullshit

Is this because a white kid shot up a church?

I really ask seriously because I don't see many white supremacist killings on the news, but I do see islamic terrorism quite a bit.

Why is it all of the things we SEE seem to lead to one thing, but the "official reports" seem to lead to another.

What's that VERY old saying about believing 1/2 of what you see and none of what you hear? (or in this case, read)

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Re: Elephant in the room: terrorists are not white and are Muslim
« Reply #68 on: January 02, 2016, 12:31:45 PM »
"Right wing attacks"  ::)

exactly. if memory serves, a good percentage of these "right wing attacks" were by "lefties".
 
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Re: Elephant in the room: terrorists are not white and are Muslim
« Reply #69 on: January 02, 2016, 12:54:12 PM »
Is this because a white kid shot up a church?

I really ask seriously because I don't see many white supremacist killings on the news, but I do see islamic terrorism quite a bit.

Why is it all of the things we SEE seem to lead to one thing, but the "official reports" seem to lead to another.

What's that VERY old saying about believing 1/2 of what you see and none of what you hear? (or in this case, read)
The reason the government continues to call WP groups a threat is because most are ant-government, has very little to do with actual crimes organized by groups. Most of the crimes carried out in the name of WP are carried out by lone wolves and almost never claimed by an organization.
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Re: Elephant in the room: terrorists are not white and are Muslim
« Reply #70 on: January 02, 2016, 12:55:58 PM »
The reason the government continues to call WP groups a threat is because most are ant-government, has very little to do with actual crimes organized by groups. Most of the crimes carried out in the name of WP are carried out by lone wolves and almost never claimed by an organization.


This is a good point. When was the last time the KKK said, "Yeah, we did that."

Now of course, it's because they are an organization operating in the US and they don't want any heat, but still, It's not like ISIS, who, in fact, are jumping up and taking credit for everything that is done today.

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Re: Elephant in the room: terrorists are not white and are Muslim
« Reply #71 on: January 02, 2016, 01:11:49 PM »
conehead getting defensive again, ready at any moment to fly into another extreme tizzy

a wise man once said "you're part of the problem"

He's not part of the problem, you are. And if you are an American, you are a traitor

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Re: Elephant in the room: terrorists are not white and are Muslim
« Reply #73 on: January 02, 2016, 02:27:10 PM »
All non muslin country's Should do as Japan Does.
And Not Accept or Reconize muslins & their religion
If it should be called that.

muslins = Fucked up people with Fucked up beliefs.

Generally speaking I can't Stand them, No not all
But Most of them...
Never Ever Trust Them.

As for Mr Turbo,
you are either a muslim
A wind up merchant
A idiot
A sympathiser
A traitor
Or Very Likely all of the above.

Please do not respond turbo as I really could not care any less for your thoughts/ ideas / anwser.

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Re: Elephant in the room: terrorists are not white and are Muslim
« Reply #74 on: January 02, 2016, 02:31:13 PM »
Anything the douchbags at the southern poverty law center have to say ought to be discarded immediately.
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