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Title: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: The True Adonis on January 10, 2016, 01:19:41 AM
http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/el-chapo-speaks-20160109?page=5

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Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Coffeed on January 10, 2016, 01:40:57 AM
Mexican government definitely on the up and up.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Royalty on January 10, 2016, 01:47:22 AM
Sean Penn looks like he could be related to Dorian Yates.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Tha Grim Lifter on January 10, 2016, 02:11:54 AM
Wonder if they make those shirts for men
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: nzmusclemonster on January 10, 2016, 02:14:10 AM
Wider than Heath.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: The True Adonis on January 10, 2016, 02:25:28 AM
Chapo sticks to an illicit game, proudly volunteering, "I supply more heroin, methamphetamine, cocaine and marijuana than anybody else in the world. I have a fleet of submarines, airplanes, trucks and boats."

He is entirely unapologetic. Against the challenges of doing business in such a clandestine industry he has ––built an empire. I am reminded of press accounts alleging a hundred-million-dollar bounty the man across from me is said to have put on Donald Trump's life. I mention Trump. El Chapo smiles, ironically saying, "Ah! Mi amigo!"

Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Skeletor on January 10, 2016, 02:34:16 AM
For your recent escape, did you pursue your freedom at any cost, at the expense of anybody?
I never thought of hurting anyone. All I did was ask God, and things worked out. Everything was perfect. I am here, thank God.

Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Tha Grim Lifter on January 10, 2016, 04:16:38 AM
For your recent escape, did you pursue your freedom at any cost, at the expense of anybody?
I never thought of hurting anyone. All I did was ask God, and things worked out. Everything was perfect. I am here, thank God.



So it's God's fault the world is rife with drugs. Thanks God. For nothing.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Radical Plato on January 10, 2016, 04:32:29 AM
So it's God's fault the world is rife with drugs. Thanks God. For nothing.
I thank God that the world is rife with drugs every day.  And I don't believe in God.  Just grateful there are true renegades prepared to stand up to evil governments and their evil prohibition policies that harm and kill way more people than if there was no such policies.  So thank you god and thank you El Chapo.

And I guarantee Sean Penn is a narc who worked with LE.  I hope the narcos sort out that whiny liberal fag.



This video is over 30 years old, still relevant today and it blows my mind how drug prohibition is still relevant.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: affeman on January 10, 2016, 04:38:06 AM
BB related as Sean Penn is a BB

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Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Never1AShow on January 10, 2016, 11:03:43 AM
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Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Never1AShow on January 10, 2016, 11:05:04 AM
What's with the chick in the bikini? 
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: viking1 on January 10, 2016, 11:05:20 AM
Spicoli
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Ken Fresno on January 10, 2016, 11:07:11 AM
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Great everyday look, easily maintainable without a boatload of drugs.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: B R on January 10, 2016, 11:07:52 AM
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Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: SuperTed on January 10, 2016, 11:09:17 AM
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Penn and Chapo both giving Phil Heath serious competition in the prestigious "Narrowest Man of the Year" award.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Pray_4_War on January 10, 2016, 11:31:55 AM
Sean sure loves corrupt third world tyrants.  Then again I think a lot of liberals do for some reason.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 10, 2016, 11:35:17 AM
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what a retarded idiot: contacting the press and sean penn to make a movie about him. Of course he gets caught. I would have kept a low profile and lived away from jail. What a clown.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Pray_4_War on January 10, 2016, 11:37:04 AM
I love that bean er mustache that he has cultivated.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Never1AShow on January 10, 2016, 12:31:44 PM
Brutal low thread count motel bedspread of peace.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 10, 2016, 12:41:20 PM
Hi vanity caught him in the end. What a fucking retard. Wanted fame more than freedom.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Fortress on January 10, 2016, 12:42:30 PM
Sean Penn has been exposed for decades as a thoroughly jackassey type.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 10, 2016, 12:51:17 PM
Amazing that all the intelligence in Mexico and USA couldn't find him and spicolli was able to. Hahahhaha.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Nether Animal on January 10, 2016, 12:54:23 PM
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Holy random vascularity of peace...
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: V Man on January 10, 2016, 01:11:01 PM
So if Sean Penn were to play El Chapo in a Movie, would they include the part where El Chapo (played by Sean Penn) meets Sean Penn?  ??? And who would play Sean Penn?
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 10, 2016, 01:18:19 PM
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Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: gmflex on January 10, 2016, 01:50:52 PM
what a retarded idiot: contacting the press and sean penn to make a movie about him. Of course he gets caught. I would have kept a low profile and lived away from jail. What a clown.



There are ready bets ( over / under ) in Mexico of how long it will take El Chapo to escape this time... ;D
At this point El Chapo is like .. ill get it out again..
Nothing is out of reach for this guy...
Sad but true...
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: gmflex on January 10, 2016, 01:51:54 PM
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Lmao... ;D
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Rudee on January 10, 2016, 02:21:08 PM
I figured if anybody, it would be Dennis Rodman who would do such a thing.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Never1AShow on January 10, 2016, 05:42:35 PM
http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/el-chapo-speaks-20160109?page=5

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In this picture Penn is displaying better arm development and leanness than many Getbiggers.  I think there is a vein in the forearm.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Never1AShow on January 10, 2016, 05:44:33 PM
Great everyday look, easily maintainable without a boatload of drugs.

Displaying the small joints that could herald great things in a future bodybuilding career.  He may have missed his calling.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: DanielPaul on January 10, 2016, 06:37:13 PM
So if Sean Penn were to play El Chapo in a Movie, would they include the part where El Chapo (played by Sean Penn) meets Sean Penn?  ??? And who would play Sean Penn?
damn sure won't be Chris Penn
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: NelsonMuntz on January 10, 2016, 06:57:41 PM
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Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: visualizeperfection on January 10, 2016, 07:12:48 PM
So if Sean Penn were to play El Chapo in a Movie, would they include the part where El Chapo (played by Sean Penn) meets Sean Penn?  ??? And who would play Sean Penn?

Marty Champions.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Lustral on January 10, 2016, 07:13:06 PM
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=587851.msg8326133#msg8326133

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Sean Penn is a disgusting American hating socialist scumbag. He fraternises with left wing oppressors like Chavez (now dead) and Maduro who scare their population by blaming all their ills on the USA (as opposed to their idiotic communist economy) and Castro, who denies his people the right to run a successful shop or self-determination. All the while he snipes at the USA.

I wouldn't believe a word he said on this issue.

Well, I called it. The guy is a scumbag.

I also had to laugh at this post in that thread http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=post;quote=8324952;topic=587851.150;num_replies=313;sesc=8cc338eee4037ac1e1c32a7906fff611

European companies also sold sodium pentobarbitol to USA til shareholders revolted... money is money, and European companies will happlily sell shit to USA without moral qualms. Sorry, but due to getbig's "great" search function, I had to trawl 13 pages.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: OB1 on January 10, 2016, 07:20:31 PM
Very interedasting.
Thx : )
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: visualizeperfection on January 10, 2016, 07:32:52 PM
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Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 10, 2016, 07:41:58 PM
Great everyday look, easily maintainable without a boatload of drugs.

He messed up his pro tan though. Needs to spread it out more evenly. He focused too much on his upper chest with it...
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: obsidian on January 10, 2016, 07:43:02 PM
Wow el chapo seems to be el midget. How tall is he? Since Penn himself is one.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: visualizeperfection on January 10, 2016, 07:44:04 PM
Wow el chapo seems to be el midget. How tall is he? Since Penn himself is one.

Thats what chapo stands for, uncultured fuck.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Radical Plato on January 10, 2016, 07:45:05 PM

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Dude has the thousand-yard stare. El Chapo looks like a man who has had a hard life and not the life of privilege one would would expect of a billionaire.or, makes you wonder if this is one of his many doubles he is rumored to have.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Radical Plato on January 10, 2016, 07:54:28 PM
Kate del Castillo, an outspoken Mexican and American actress who cemented her fame with portrayals of crime bosses on television, posted a message online four years ago.

"Today I believe more in El Chapo Guzman than in the governments that hide the truth from me even though it is painful,
" del Castillo said in a message linked to her Twitter account in 2012.

Guzman should consider using his influence for the good of Mexico, she wrote.

In an interview last year, del Castillo told CNN en Español that her message was a criticism of Mexican political leaders rather than a compliment to Guzman.

"Someone like that, at least we know who he is, we know what he does, we know what his profession is. The others sometimes are worse criminals, and have numbed us, and hide everything from us," she said.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: TuHolmes on January 10, 2016, 08:57:20 PM
Don't know if I mentioned this, but I know a guy who used to work for El Chapo.

He was basically a nanny / driver / bodyguard of El Chapo's kids. Made sure they got to school. Taught them English. Protected them from other Cartels.

I have no beef with someone who offers drugs to people.

No one forces anything and I'm personally against prohibition.

Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Radical Plato on January 10, 2016, 08:58:24 PM
Don't know if I mentioned this, but I know a guy who used to work for El Chapo.

He was basically a nanny / driver / bodyguard of El Chapo's kids. Made sure they got to school. Taught them English. Protected them from other Cartels.

I have no beef with someone who offers drugs to people.

No one forces anything and I'm personally against prohibition.


El Chapo isn't responsible for all the carnage and innocent people dying. Drug prohibition is. And who supports drug prohibition? Get rid of El Chapo and ten more drug bosses rise to replace him, get rid of drug prohibition and you get rid of cartels full stop. You can not go to war with an inanimate object like drugs or terrorism without creating a real war. End the war on drugs, and you end the war. JMO
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 11, 2016, 02:29:23 PM
El Chapo can't be too bright meeting with Sean Penn. Who's a Hollywood CIA spy...
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Howard on January 11, 2016, 02:41:08 PM
So it's God's fault the world is rife with drugs. Thanks God. For nothing.

Hmmm, it sucks GOD turned out to be a short Mexican dude.
Oh well, life's a muthafuker ... ;D
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Lustral on January 11, 2016, 05:13:36 PM
Don't know if I mentioned this, but I know a guy who used to work for El Chapo.

He was basically a nanny / driver / bodyguard of El Chapo's kids. Made sure they got to school. Taught them English. Protected them from other Cartels.

I have no beef with someone who offers drugs to people.

No one forces anything and I'm personally against prohibition.



There's a subtle distinction here - offering drugs to someone is a light phrase - it tends to take 2 forms:

1) You get known as the go to guy for a drug/drugs through contacts etc or

2) You openly sell and offer (ie push drugs) to people.

1) is fine - if people want it, you got it. You provide a service. Number 2 is not so fine. Most people won't care if offered H, white, crack whatever - but a recovering addict, naive person or similar (kid under peer pressure) is being put in a horrible spot.

I don't gamble, especially not on sports - it just doesn't float my boat. Gambling is not only legal here, it is abetted by government - shops everywhere, casinos everywhere, and, most pervasively, online and mobile gambling. Now that all brishes over me. I don't care what the odds are on a football match. But I know addicts/former gambling addicts who cannot now watch sports because it is constant pushing of gambling. You may have never had addiction but their heart would be racing and they would feel horrible tension and anxiety... because an addictive activity is being pushed. When I say pushed, it is on billboards, jersey sponsors, all ads between breaks and all tv programmes, websites etc.

Anyway, slight deviation but you get the idea. I agree with legalisation, disagree that offering (pushing) is without issues.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Dave D on January 11, 2016, 05:23:59 PM
Don't know if I mentioned this, but I know a guy who used to work for El Chapo.

He was basically a nanny / driver / bodyguard of El Chapo's kids. Made sure they got to school. Taught them English. Protected them from other Cartels.

I have no beef with someone who offers drugs to people.

No one forces anything and I'm personally against prohibition.



Really?  Is this still a job that he still does? How often is his life in danger?

Is it safe to assume watching a drug lords children would seem to be very hazardous?
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Never1AShow on January 11, 2016, 05:46:55 PM
Some very significant percentage of the population would not be able to handle hard drugs being legalized and having a ready virtually unlimited supply.  They would basically kill themselves with the drugs.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Lustral on January 11, 2016, 06:54:34 PM
Some very significant percentage of the population would not be able to handle hard drugs being legalized and having a ready virtually unlimited supply.  They would basically kill themselves with the drugs.

Enough people kill themselves with alcohol, tobacco and painkillers. Get over the initial excitement and eventually the message "don't fuck yourself over" will come through. As it is, these drugs are widely available and wildly overpirced - and illegal/mixed with fuck knows. Get it all out there, you won't see the dow or S&P fall anyway.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Dave D on January 11, 2016, 07:51:55 PM
Enough people kill themselves with alcohol, tobacco and painkillers. Get over the initial excitement and eventually the message "don't fuck yourself over" will come through. As it is, these drugs are widely available and wildly overpirced - and illegal/mixed with fuck knows. Get it all out there, you won't see the dow or S&P fall anyway.

Dont forget the war on drugs is also a billion dollar industry (at least for the US), from law making, law enforcement and the prison system. Plus it gives America the "right to bully" other smaller nations, so we can do our biding under the guise of dismantling drug traffickers.

You have to believe pharmaceutical, tobacco and alcohol companies only see dollar signs when it deals with legalizing these substances, and with all their money the fact that it isn't close to becoming a reality says much.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Never1AShow on January 11, 2016, 07:58:08 PM
Enough people kill themselves with alcohol, tobacco and painkillers. Get over the initial excitement and eventually the message "don't fuck yourself over" will come through. As it is, these drugs are widely available and wildly overpirced - and illegal/mixed with fuck knows. Get it all out there, you won't see the dow or S&P fall anyway.

Stuff like meth, ice and cocaine base or crack are unbelievably addicting but also stimulate in ways alcohol and opiates do not.  Opiates are also a huge problem even though they are medically controlled.  How does legalizing work?  Is it prescribed and dosages monitored by doctors?  Who pays for all those junkies sitting around doing nothing but drugs?  I think the numbers would go up if it were legalized.  I think maybe for every dead gangbanger we have shot in the current war in drugs there would be at least ten dead junkies from ODs.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Never1AShow on January 11, 2016, 08:01:24 PM
Dont forget the war on drugs is also a billion dollar industry (at least for the US), from law making, law enforcement and the prison system. Plus it gives America the "right to bully" other smaller nations, so we can do our biding under the guise of dismantling drug traffickers.

You have to believe pharmaceutical, tobacco and alcohol companies only see dollar signs when it deals with legalizing these substances, and with all their money the fact that it isn't close to becoming a reality says much.

I see MJ as different in kind than the other stuff.  Stoners aren't really junkies, they just lose initiative and are apathetic in their own lives.  I was speaking to a person at a party recently who works for a big alcohol distributor.  She said the hot topic now in that industry is whether to distribute MJ and if it will be offered in liquid forms and how that will affect the booze.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: TuHolmes on January 11, 2016, 08:06:45 PM
Really?  Is this still a job that he still does? How often is his life in danger?

Is it safe to assume watching a drug lords children would seem to be very hazardous?

He doesn't do it any longer as the children are all adults. (You've seen the instagram of El Chapo Jr. perhaps) As they are all grown adults, his position was effectively eliminated.

He has told me numerous stories about issues other cartels had and things he's had to do to keep them safe back when he was traveling with them across boarders.

Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Dave D on January 11, 2016, 08:14:27 PM
Stuff like meth, ice and cocaine base or crack are unbelievably addicting but also stimulate in ways alcohol and opiates do not.  Opiates are also a huge problem even though they are medically controlled.  How does legalizing work?  Is it prescribed and dosages monitored by doctors?  Who pays for all those junkies sitting around doing nothing but drugs?  I think the numbers would go up if it were legalized.  I think maybe for every dead gangbanger we have shot in the current war in drugs there would be at least ten dead junkies from ODs.

Who pays for these issues we have now? Who pays for the method lab house fire? Who pays for the medical bills of the corner hustler that gets shot and robbed? Who pays to keep the methadone clinic open in your community?

I wasn't saying legalizing these drugs was the answer, I'm not sure it is. I meant the system we have already have in place makes a lot of money/generates power for the people in charge. I now know more people  addicted to legal prescription drugs than street drugs.

Convincing  the general public the benefits of legalized drugs, after a LIFETIME of being warned against them, would be a huge hurdle. Realistic what percentage of the population rotinely uses these drugs, and out of that what percentage would be considered addicts? I'm assuming it's less than 25%? Even if it was 50% of the population how many are showing up to vote to pass the issue?
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Dave D on January 11, 2016, 08:19:49 PM
He doesn't do it any longer as the children are all adults. (You've seen the instagram of El Chapo Jr. perhaps) As they are all grown adults, he doesn't do it any longer.

He has told me numerous stories about issues other cartels had and things he's had to do to keep them safe back when he was traveling with them across boarders.



Thats fascinating.

 It's even more shocking that he was released from general service. The kids would be one of the most prized "possessions". If he was trusted with their well being you'd think they'd make room for him in another area, or otherwise see him as a potential liability.

Thanks for sharing, because of the 7 degrees of Kevin Bacon I now feel like I'm 3 people removed from El Chapo.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: TuHolmes on January 11, 2016, 08:21:22 PM
Thats fascinating.

 It's even more shocking that he was released from general service. The kids would be one of the most prized "possessions". If he was trusted with their well being you'd think they'd make room for him in another area, or otherwise see him as a potential liability.

Thanks for sharing, because of the 7 degrees of Kevin Bacon I now feel like I'm 3 people removed from El Chapo.

He just decided he wanted out... El Chapo was perfectly ok with it. No harm no foul.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Never1AShow on January 11, 2016, 09:33:51 PM
Who pays for these issues we have now? Who pays for the method lab house fire? Who pays for the medical bills of the corner hustler that gets shot and robbed? Who pays to keep the methadone clinic open in your community?

I wasn't saying legalizing these drugs was the answer, I'm not sure it is. I meant the system we have already have in place makes a lot of money/generates power for the people in charge. I now know more people  addicted to legal prescription drugs than street drugs.

Convincing  the general public the benefits of legalized drugs, after a LIFETIME of being warned against them, would be a huge hurdle. Realistic what percentage of the population rotinely uses these drugs, and out of that what percentage would be considered addicts? I'm assuming it's less than 25%? Even if it was 50% of the population how many are showing up to vote to pass the issue?

I'd think more than 50 percent of all meth users and heroin users are addicts.  If legalized I think that would at least double, at least.  We aren't really differing.  I think the costs would still be much higher than what we have to pay now.

One problem is that even though many urge "rehab" as the solution, rehab doesn't really work.  It has a ridiculously high failure rate.  So you end up with a problem where you'd need to spend a hundred grand or more per addict trying to get them clean and there just isn't that kind of money, especially when you can spend 10 grand on 10 innocent young kids helping them out much more.

Of course, I do not believe that in this modern day when we can put a man on the moon and do all kinds of tech and medical stuff that we cannot cure addiction, not rehab, I mean a real cure.  Some kind of shot or implant or something that makes drugs not work and no cravings.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 12, 2016, 07:05:53 AM
Funny thing is no one ever forces you to take drugs.  It's a personal choice.  the gov that seems to be so much about freedom want to dictate what you can willingly take or do.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Yamcha on January 12, 2016, 08:52:29 AM
I'd think more than 50 percent of all meth users and heroin users are addicts.  If legalized I think that would at least double, at least. 

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Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Fortress on January 12, 2016, 08:58:56 AM
Math's tough.

P.S. El Fappo is a twink midget with epic skinny-fat genes. Hope he suffers a major aneurysm and collapses into some cow dung.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Never1AShow on January 12, 2016, 08:37:01 PM
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Obviously this means the current number of addicts would double not the percentage.  Only aspies assume something that literal.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: SquidVicious on January 12, 2016, 09:28:00 PM
Now that Chapo's put a hit out on Penn, you can expect him to go incognito again.
(http://6.darkroom.shortlist.com/980/3881569b69c36cd3c464511fc9d03a13:f12f604717fb7374801ef50c82415b98/kleinfeld.jpg)
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Nether Animal on January 12, 2016, 09:37:34 PM
Some kind of shot or implant or something that makes drugs not work and no cravings.

It exists for opiates: http://luxury.rehabs.com/naltrexone-vivitrol/implant-for-opiate-addiction/


 
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Yamcha on January 13, 2016, 04:18:25 AM
Obviously this means the current number of addicts would double not the percentage.  Only aspies assume something that literal.

whatever you say butthole eyes
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Radical Plato on January 13, 2016, 04:33:05 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61vf-QNA6VL._SY445_.jpg)
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Radical Plato on January 13, 2016, 04:38:01 AM
I just realised the whole thing is a ruse, El Chapo has been intelligent enough to stay alive to the age of 61 in the most ruthless business in the world, he is reported to have many doubles and is very well connected, not to mention a billionaire.  What would the ideal situation be for El Chapo, to have the world believe he has been captured and imprisoned again.  Everyone's happy and he can semi retire while still pulling the strings from behind the scenes.  I think the real giveaway will be if there is no retribution for Sean Penn.  Some theorised that the El Chapo was never in prison in the first place, and it was just one of his body doubles that was in there.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Parker on January 13, 2016, 04:41:45 AM
I see MJ as different in kind than the other stuff.  Stoners aren't really junkies, they just lose initiative and are apathetic in their own lives.  I was speaking to a person at a party recently who works for a big alcohol distributor.  She said the hot topic now in that industry is whether to distribute MJ and if it will be offered in liquid forms and how that will affect the booze.
An addict is an addict, and a junkie is a junkie. No matter how you slice it or want to downplay it. Westerners and their drug addictions, smh.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Radical Plato on January 13, 2016, 04:45:59 AM
An addict is an addict, and a junkie is a junkie. No matter how you slice it or want to downplay it. Westerners and their drug addictions, smh.

Stereotypes
"Because the [people] that don’t know [about drugs], they talk about drug use as being simply like a, b and c. What the f*ck? That’s like saying people are simply a, b and c."  Dr. Carl Hart


You are a typical ignoarmus, using your shaming language to judge people you don't even know. What gives you the right to treat people as second class citizens who use substances that you happen to have been brainwashed into believing are evil. Please tell us about your extensive personal experience with addictive drugs, or where you recieved your PhD on drug addiction.  You sound like a real expert.  Westerners and their ignorance and smug belief they know better.

You want to get some insight and an awareness of what a wanker you are, take the time to listen to someone who knows what they are talking about.



Building Tolerance
"Folks [who are] tolerant of marijuana-related effects, they could smoke a joint, be high, and perform cognitively at the same level as someone who was not high." - Dr. Carl Hart

The Reality behind Withdrawals
"When we think about marijuana withdrawal, it’s certainly not life-threatening, but it can be irritating...We get withdrawal from caffeine; it’s not a big deal, but it’s real." - Dr. Carl Hart

Current Criteria for Addiction
"Tolerance can be a criterion; withdrawal symptoms can be a criterion. So it’s no big deal whether a drug is “addictive” or not; it’s how your use of it compares to everything else." - Dr. Carl Hart

On Legal Heroin
"You have to have a corresponding increase in education—proper education...when we think about heroin, people always talk about heroin overdoses. That’s so rare, it’s not even worth talking about" - Dr. Carl Hart

The Bottom Line
"Why [are] we, as a field, so politically motivated and not data-driven?"

Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Never1AShow on January 13, 2016, 07:12:58 AM
No one ever addresses meth.  No way to legalize that without crazy number of hyped up addicts everywhere and dropping like flies on the streets.  H is a downer.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Never1AShow on January 13, 2016, 07:13:58 AM
I just realised the whole thing is a ruse, El Chapo has been intelligent enough to stay alive to the age of 61 in the most ruthless business in the world, he is reported to have many doubles and is very well connected, not to mention a billionaire.  What would the ideal situation be for El Chapo, to have the world believe he has been captured and imprisoned again.  Everyone's happy and he can semi retire while still pulling the strings from behind the scenes.  I think the real giveaway will be if there is no retribution for Sean Penn.  Some theorised that the El Chapo was never in prison in the first place, and it was just one of his body doubles that was in there.

I said this yesterday in the other El Chapo thread.  The guy in the hotel room doesn't look like the real El Chapo.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 13, 2016, 07:17:51 AM
I just realised the whole thing is a ruse, El Chapo has been intelligent enough to stay alive to the age of 61 in the most ruthless business in the world, he is reported to have many doubles and is very well connected, not to mention a billionaire.  What would the ideal situation be for El Chapo, to have the world believe he has been captured and imprisoned again.  Everyone's happy and he can semi retire while still pulling the strings from behind the scenes.  I think the real giveaway will be if there is no retribution for Sean Penn.  Some theorised that the El Chapo was never in prison in the first place, and it was just one of his body doubles that was in there.

You're confusing the Saddam Hussein story with El Chapo.

Hey, now you can look like El Chapo since an LA store is selling his famous shirt.

(http://laist.com/attachments/la_djensen/el_chapo_shirt.jpg)
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Radical Plato on January 13, 2016, 07:18:38 AM
No one ever addresses meth.  No way to legalize that without crazy number of hyped up addicts everywhere and dropping like flies on the streets.  H is a downer.
I am sure it could be better managed with pure gear and working out the best dosage for the individual. Also using other drugs to counter some of the side effects, like downers for sleep etc. The goal is to make them as functional as possible while working towards stopping or at least managing their use.  Still problematic, but their is no perfect solution, so best to work on harm minimisation.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 13, 2016, 07:34:11 AM
Wonder if they make those shirts for men


Barabas , Arnold has a few of those shirts .


WoooSHHHH
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 13, 2016, 07:40:23 AM
(http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/2016/media/223433/_original/1452390107/1035x1380-Los-Mochis-Chapo.jpg)

He is 5'6" just like Dexter Jackson  imagine if he was the bodybuilder, and Dexter the drug lord ....




WoooSHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 13, 2016, 07:48:50 AM
A friend of a friend claims that Sean penn is a CIA Agent .


WooSHHHHH
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Never1AShow on January 13, 2016, 04:24:42 PM
You're confusing the Saddam Hussein story with El Chapo.

Hey, now you can look like El Chapo since an LA store is selling his famous shirt.

(http://laist.com/attachments/la_djensen/el_chapo_shirt.jpg)

There are numerous reports on the Internet about Chapo having plastic surgery and body doubles.  Reports going back years.  How do we know this is the real one?
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 13, 2016, 04:32:40 PM
There are numerous reports on the Internet about Chapo having plastic surgery and body doubles.  Reports going back years.  How do we know this is the real one?

the real el chapo is eating gullasch with Sev And Tito24 in Bucharest right now
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Never1AShow on January 13, 2016, 09:55:42 PM
the real el chapo is eating gullasch with Sev And Tito24 in Bucharest right now

I would like to see a Dna comparison with the guy they caught and the test propionate and pins found at his hideout.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Coffeed on January 14, 2016, 12:19:24 AM
There are numerous reports on the Internet about Chapo having plastic surgery and body doubles.  Reports going back years.  How do we know this is the real one?
False flag by the Bush administration.

Real one is probably on a beach in Belize sipping tequila with Hitler.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Dave D on January 14, 2016, 12:23:33 AM
There are numerous reports on the Internet about Chapo having plastic surgery and body doubles.  Reports going back years.  How do we know this is the real one?

I'm sure there's a fingerprint database, it'll only be a matter of time before Mexico submits all their files electronically and  these prints will be on computers so they can be cross referenced.
Title: Re: Sean Penn meeting El Chapo in October Picture-Very interesting article
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 14, 2016, 06:47:24 AM
Thats what chapo stands for, uncultured fuck.


LOL ....Owned 


El Chapo (Shorty ) is 5'6"  the ideal height for someone that wants to become a pro bodybuilder.


WooOSHHHHHH  CHAPO


WoooSHHHHHHH