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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: affeman on January 13, 2016, 07:23:00 AM
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I guess in terms of sheer clavicuar width, Ronnie might have been even narrower than Heath. Wonder why noone has broght that up yet? ???
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I guess in terms of sheer clavicuar width, Ronnie might have been even narrower than Heath. Wonder why noone has broght that up yet? ???
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Are you drunk?
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Are you drunk?
Are you blind?
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Are you blind?
Sober up
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Affeman,
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/fail :(
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I think Ronnie was MUCH wider...
(http://www.picpicx.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/ac3723d98fadf56d3a963e0e70979d86.jpg?63bea7)
(http://www.bodybuilders.gr/data/main/forum/mainuploadsfolder/psybox/2008413125156_avatar_a_ronnie_coleman_wow-1.jpg)
In my opinion, while I would have never aimed to have Ronnie's body (not that I could have even attained anything close to it), he had the most amount of quality muscle out of any bodybuilder EVER. He is definitely the best Mr. Olympia of all time. You line them all up during their prime and Ronnie smokes them all without contest.
In terms of width, let's not kid ourselves, he would have eclipsed Phil.
(http://gaahang.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Ronnie-Coleman.png)
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Comparison pics of physique at early stage is best for this. Ronnie was naturally very narrow, same as phil but obviously ronnie BECAME wider than phil.
I guess in terms of sheer clavicuar width, Ronnie might have been even narrower than Heath. Wonder why noone has broght that up yet? ???
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Yes Phil was wider than Ronnie
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Not sure if serious thread.
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Not sure if serious thread.
Affeman is a horrible troll.
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There is vid of Phil and Ronnie sitting down during a seminar. And Ronnie was wider than Phil.
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You mean this Ronnie ?
WoooShhhhhh
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(http://www.isteroids.com/bodybuilding/images/ronnie_coleman2.jpg) :D
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Both Coleman and Heath are piles of crap but in all fairness, Coleman was a bigger, wider pile.
Not too sure who would've won a NoseDown though... ;D
And Arnold dusts 'em all. Who in their right mind would want to look like something (Coleman) flies fantasize over?
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Both Coleman and Heath are piles of crap but in all fairness, Coleman was a bigger, wider pile.
Not too sure who would've won a NoseDown though... ;D
And Arnold dusts 'em all. Who in their right mind would want to look like something (Coleman) flies fantasize over?
Kai would win the nosedown hands down...
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Both Coleman and Heath are piles of crap but in all fairness, Coleman was a bigger, wider pile.
Not too sure who would've won a NoseDown though... ;D
And Arnold dusts 'em all. Who in their right mind would want to look like something (Coleman) flies fantasize over?
Please don't be one of those old guys that is always like, "Back when I was younger, everything was so much better." Old people like that are so damn annoying. No offense. ;D ;D Next thing you will be saying is that the medical technology was so much more better and sophisticated when you were growing up. ::) ::) :D :D ;D ;D ;D
Clearly, a PRIME Ronnie Coleman is 100x better than any bodybuilder from the golden era. A prime Ronnie destroys a prime Arnold in terms of physique. I am not talking about when Ronnie became too big. I am talking about when he first won the Mr. Olympia and had a small waist and six-pack. Look at it objectively--do not be biased on nostalgia, i.e., holding onto the past.
Back before he got too big. This smokes Arnold any day of the week, especially when you compare Ronnies back to Arnolds back.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7r_VcCknHD8/TKzVx1imnzI/AAAAAAAAAH0/m9iIE6IyqjA/S350/Ronnie.jpg)
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Please don't be one of those old guys that is always like, "Back when I was younger, everything was so much better." Old people like that are so damn annoying. No offense. ;D ;D Next thing you will be saying is that the medical technology was so much more better and sophisticated when you were growing up. ::) ::) :D :D ;D ;D ;D
Clearly, a PRIME Ronnie Coleman is 100x better than any bodybuilder from the golden era. A prime Ronnie destroys a prime Arnold in terms of physique. I am not talking about when Ronnie became too big. I am talking about when he first won the Mr. Olympia and had a small waist and six-pack. Look at it objectively--do not be biased by nostalgia, i.e., holding onto the past.
Back before he got too big. This smokes Arnold any day of the week.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7r_VcCknHD8/TKzVx1imnzI/AAAAAAAAAH0/m9iIE6IyqjA/S350/Ronnie.jpg)
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Bodybuilding is a highly subjective pastime and Coleman is subject to my standards and fails miserably. If you like him, I have no problem with that. I think he's a totally worthless, disgustingly distended and over built mound of crap. Some people might think the same of Arnold. Not a problem.
Coleman sucks. I put Reeves, Park, Zane, Nubret and more than a few others above him. I have standards and Coleman cannot meet them. His zealousness in pursuit of being a great big fatazz are what dictated his current, worsening condition and I maintain that he deserves it.
Coleman's fame, such as it was, is fleeting. His stupidity however is immortal.
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Bodybuilding is a highly subjective pastime and Coleman is subject to my standards and fails miserably. If you like him, I have no problem with that. I think he's a totally worthless, disgustingly distended and over built mound of crap. Some people might think the same of Arnold. Not a problem.
Coleman sucks. I put Reeves, Park, Zane, Nubret and more than a few others above him. I have standards and Coleman cannot meet them. His zealousness in pursuit of being a great big fatazz are what dictated his current, worsening condition and I maintain that he deserves it.
Coleman's fame, such as it was, is fleeting. His stupidity however is immortal.
But youre letting how he is acting now interfering with how you rate him objectively, i.e., referring to his worsening condition, his medical conditions, and his quest for fame, and his so-called "stupidity." The problem is that even if there was a new bodybuilder who met your standards, you would still knock them because they aren't from the 70's. I think I could make this assumption, i.e., youre die-hard quest to hold onto the past.
Regarding Ronnie, I am talking about how he looked 15-20 years ago. Nothing more, nothing less. Purely based on his physique.
He actually looks like an old school bodybuilder in this picture.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/70/3a/fb/703afb13e7f1e620dfaaab84e7f934b1.jpg)
Cant get a waist smaller than that
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But youre letting how he is acting now interfering with how you rate him objectively, i.e., referring to his worsening condition, his medical conditions, and his quest for fame, and his so-called "stupidity." The problem is that even if there was a new bodybuilder who met your standards, you would still knock them because they aren't from the 70's. I think I could make this assumption, i.e., youre die-hard quest to hold onto the past.
Regarding Ronnie, I am talking about how he looked 15-20 years ago. Nothing more, nothing less. Purely based on his physique.
He actually looks like an old school bodybuilder in this picture.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/70/3a/fb/703afb13e7f1e620dfaaab84e7f934b1.jpg)
Cant get a waist smaller than that
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Nope. I have never considered him anything other than average. Except for his IQ. He should be glad that breathing and the like are involuntary actions elsewise he would never have made it past exiting the womb. He is that dumb.
Like I said, it bothers me not if you think his physique is great.
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Nope. I have never considered him anything other than average. Except for his IQ. He should be glad that breathing and the like are involuntary actions elsewise he would never have made it past exiting the womb. He is that dumb.
Like I said, it bothers me not if you think his physique is great.
Well, it doesn't bother me that you don't think his physique is NOT great. I never said it bothers you.
But last I checked, this is a bodybuilding board where we discussing bodybuilding and bodybuilders, correct? Is this not a discussion? lol I thought that was the point of a forum, to engage in discussion about a particular topic? ??? ??? Isn't that what we were doing? Unless I missed something. No one was talking about hurt feelings or being bothered.
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Affeman is a horrible troll.
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This. All the great eccentric personalities are gone :(
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Well, it doesn't bother me that you don't think his physique is NOT great. I never said it bothers you.
But last I checked, this is a bodybuilding board where we discussing bodybuilding and bodybuilders, correct? Is this not a discussion? lol I thought that was the point of a forum, to engage in discussion about a particular topic? ??? ??? Isn't that what we were doing? Unless I missed something. No one was talking about hurt feelings or being bothered.
My feelings are not hurt and I don't think I inferred as much. By the word "bothers" (or any variant thereof) I meant to assert the old adage, "to each their own".
Coleman is the poster turd for the stereotypical muscle bound moron. He is, quite frankly, stupid. By some accounts he is a degreed individual as well as a duly appointed officer of the law. That doesn't excuse his blatant disdain for law (i.e., painfully obvious use of controlled substances) and his having a degree from a genuine college speaks volumes about the "Peter Principal" in universities. His outright disrespect for his supposed faith also disgusts me.
In short, I find Coleman a piece of shit on two legs. And his physique is, in my eyes, without merit.
To each their own. ;D
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My feelings are not hurt and I don't think I inferred as much. By the word "bothers" (or any variant thereof) I meant to assert the old adage, "to each their own".
Coleman is the poster turd for the stereotypical muscle bound moron. He is, quite frankly, stupid. By some accounts he is a degreed individual as well as a duly appointed officer of the law. That doesn't excuse his blatant disdain for law (i.e., painfully obvious use of controlled substances) and his having a degree from an genuine college speaks volumes about the "Peter Principal" in universities. His outright disrespect for his supposed faith also disgusts me.
In short, I find Coleman a piece of shit on two legs. And his physique is, in my eyes, without merit.
To each their own. ;D
That is fine. Granted, I still think old school Coleman beats most golden era bodybuilders.
If you think Coleman looks like shit here, then I assume you think Nubret also looks like shit. Nubret is bigger here, but both have that small waist and flat stomach.
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That is fine. Granted, I still think old school Coleman beats most golden era bodybuilders.
If you think Coleman looks like shit here, then I assume you think Nubret also looks like shit. Nubret is bigger here, but both have that small waist and flat stomach.
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I prefer Nubret. Again, this is subjective and my standards are just that. Coleman is without merit in my eyes. I cannot...No...Make that will not separate the average physique from the near Genovan idiot that dwells within it.
We shall just have to agree to disagree, my friend. ;D
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I prefer Nubret. Again, this is subjective and my standards are just that. Coleman is without merit in my eyes. I cannot...No...Make that will not separate the average physique from the near Genovan idiot that dwells within it.
We shall just have to agree to disagree, my friend. ;D
I AGREE that Nubret is better in that picture.
But can you please tell me what is wrong with Ronnies physique in the above picture? What's bad about it?
You can still prefer Nubret's physique without necessarily thinking there is anything wrong with Ronnies physique in that picture.
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THATS NOT STEVE IRWIN
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Both Coleman and Heath are piles of crap but in all fairness, Coleman was a bigger, wider pile.
Not too sure who would've won a NoseDown though... ;D
And Arnold dusts 'em all. Who in their right mind would want to look like something (Coleman) flies fantasize over?
yes who in their right mind
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(http://beastmotivation.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Young-Ronnie-Coleman-already-looking-huge.-Lightweight-baby.jpg)
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yes who in their right mind
::) ::) ::)
(http://beastmotivation.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Young-Ronnie-Coleman-already-looking-huge.-Lightweight-baby.jpg)
What? I should have said "who in their left mind?" Oh my...You truly have me there, young man.
Look, you are no match for someone half as well taught as I so cease and desist now or is it simply a matter of you wanting to be taught a lesson rather than learning one? I think better of you than you do yourself and the proof is in my words to you.
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I AGREE that Nubret is better in that picture.
But can you please tell me what is wrong with Ronnies physique in the above picture? What's bad about it?
You can still prefer Nubret's physique without necessarily thinking there is anything wrong with Ronnies physique in that picture.
I think of the entire presentation, i.e., Arnold not only possessed a superb physique but also a rapier like wit and enough charm to make the world his own. Reeves had facial good looks coupled with a physique that together is still (albeit subjectively) non pareil. These are but two examples of men that made more of themselves than just a bodybuilder.
Coleman is 300 pounds of shit (70s parlance for drugs) in a 70 IQ. John said it best.
Muscularly obese.
As for prior to his "success" as a bodybuilder, I am not concerned with that. He was average for a drugger and I freely admit that I am biased against him for the aforementioned reasons. He is subject to my personal litmus test of what greatness as it relates to bodybuilding means.
It may sound like faint praise but I think Coleman is better than Kai. But then Kai is a slut, so reality is Coleman would have to be a horrid person to be worse than Kai and he is not. Coleman is just an average bodybuilder made grossly overbuilt by drugs who happens to be as dumb as box of busted Legos.
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I think of the entire presentation, i.e., Arnold not only possessed a superb physique but also a rapier like wit and enough charm to make the world his own. Reeves had facial good looks coupled with a physique that together is still (albeit subjectively) non pareil. These are but two examples of men that made more of themselves than just a bodybuilder.
Coleman is 300 pounds of shit (70s parlance for drugs) in a 70 IQ. John said it best.
Muscularly obese.
As for prior to his "success" as a bodybuilder, I am not concerned with that. He was average for a drugger and I freely admit that I am biased against him for the aforementioned reasons. He is subject to my personal litmus test of what greatness as it relates to bodybuilding means.
It may sound like faint praise but I think Coleman is better than Kai. But then Kai is a slut, so reality is Coleman would have to be a horrid person to be worse than Kai and he is not. Coleman is just an average bodybuilder made grossly overbuilt by drugs who happens to be as dumb as box of busted Legos.
But who cares about their personalities if we are STRICTLY judging their physique.
Arnold was known to be a MAJOR PRICK back in the day. Yet, you still like his physique. Ferrigno is currently a MAJOR douchebag, but you still like his physique back in the day.
So, it seems like youre judging Ronnies physique based on his personality, but not doing the same when it comes to Arnold. Again, Arnold wasn't the nicest person back in the day either. In fact, as stated above, he was pretty much an asshole and not a nice person. But, Arnold gets a pass? :-\ :-\
As for Ronnie being an average bodybuilder, well, when you compare his past physique to the people of the golden era, you would have to say their physiques were average. In the above pic, Ronnie has more of the classic look when compared to when he got disgustingly big.
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But who cares about their personalities if we are STRICTLY judging their physique.
Arnold was known to be a MAJOR PRICK back in the day. Yet, you still like his physique. Ferrigno is currently a MAJOR douchebag, but you still like his physique back in the day.
So, it seems like youre judging Ronnies physique based on his personality, but not doing the same when it comes to Arnold. Again, Arnold wasn't the nicest person back in the day either. In fact, as stated above, he was pretty much an asshole and not a nice person. But, Arnold gets a pass? :-\ :-\
As for Ronnie being an average bodybuilder, well,could when you compare his past physique to the people of the golden era, you would have to say their physiques were average. In the above pic, Ronnie has more of the classic look when compared to when he got disgustingly big.
And some people don't care for Arnold's physique at all. So be it. I can question it but the truth is that is their right. I have met Arnold and several others from the 70s (I used to be young!) and they were pretty normal guys for the most part.
I don't care for Coleman's physique and think even less of him personally. I am certain that this causes him no concern. For one, who am I? No one, really! For another, he's a fast becoming a barely ambulatory mound of mumbling moron so I doubt he is capable of comprehending anything above a third grade level.
I am far from a genius but neither am I a total retard that spends his time "Yip! Yip! Yeah buddy"(ing) and talking about how its comeback time after multiple surgeries meant to stave off the effects of his moral mendacity on his physical body.
I don't like Coleman and he has done nothing either on the dais or in this world to change that.
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And some people don't care for Arnold's physique at all. So be it. I can question it but the truth is that is their right. I have met Arnold and several others from the 70s (I used to be young!) and they were pretty normal guys for the most part.
I don't care for Coleman's physique and think even less of him personally. I am certain that this causes him no concern. For one, who am I? No one, really! For another, he's a fast becoming a barely ambulatory mound of mumbling moron so I doubt he is capable of comprehending anything above a third grade level.
I am far from a genius but neither am I a total retard that spends his time "Yip! Yip! Yeah buddy"(ing) and talking about how its comeback time after multiple surgeries meant to stave off the effects of his moral mendacity on his physical body.
I don't like Coleman and he has done nothing either on the dais or in this world to change that.
Well, then I guess it basically comes down to who you give a pass to and who you don't. You don't like Coleman for certain aspects of his personality, but youre willing to look passed Arnold's sometimes "not so nice" personality. I guess we all have our biases.
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Coleman is just an average bodybuilder made grossly overbuilt by drugs who happens to be as dumb as box of busted Legos.
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Ronnie '99 is pretty much the best ever, you could flip with Dorian on his condition in certain contests but Ronnie still had the small waist, better quads, better arms, even better back in the Back double Bi.
Ronnie got too big / didn't diet down far enough in later years. 2002 doesn't count, Chad didn't have him diet down to say 252 like he did at the 2001 Arnold, he put him on a liquid diet to lose fucking muscle. Chad is retarded. Ronnie should have stayed down around 260 in his later years to keep the smaller waist, clearly it worked in 2001 I don't see why it wouldn't 2-3 years later. 2005 he was closer at 275 and looked good but still heavier in condition than 98-99.
Heath is not bad, good condition especially early, width who gives a fuck he has the muscles no-one has the perfect structure. He seems to have lost condition in the last few years but still better than the field other than Wolf but Wolf got screwed over in 2007 and lost his way a bit.
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I guess in terms of sheer clavicuar width, Ronnie might have been even narrower than Heath. Wonder why noone has broght that up yet? ???
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Because 'how dare they!'