Was Coleman wider than Heath?

[The Scott]

That is fine. Granted, I still think old school Coleman beats most golden era bodybuilders.

If you think Coleman looks like shit here, then I assume you think Nubret also looks like shit. Nubret is bigger here, but both have that small waist and flat stomach.

I prefer Nubret.   Again, this is subjective and my standards are just that.  Coleman is without merit in my eyes.  I cannot...No...Make that will not separate the average physique from the near Genovan idiot that dwells within it. 

We shall just have to agree to disagree, my friend. 

[SF1900]

I prefer Nubret.   Again, this is subjective and my standards are just that.  Coleman is without merit in my eyes.  I cannot...No...Make that will not separate the average physique from the near Genovan idiot that dwells within it.  

We shall just have to agree to disagree, my friend.  

I AGREE that Nubret is better in that picture.

But can you please tell me what is wrong with Ronnies physique in the above picture? What's bad about it?

You can still prefer Nubret's physique without necessarily thinking there is anything wrong with Ronnies physique in that picture.

[Nether Animal]

THATS NOT STEVE IRWIN

[cephissus]

Both Coleman and Heath are piles of crap but in all fairness, Coleman was a bigger, wider pile.

Not too sure who would've won a NoseDown though...

And Arnold dusts 'em all.  Who in their right mind would want to look like something (Coleman) flies fantasize over? 

yes who in their right mind

[The Scott]

yes who in their right mind

What?  I should have said "who in their left mind?"  Oh my...You truly have me there, young man.

Look, you are no match for someone half as well taught as I so cease and desist now or is it simply a matter of you wanting to be taught a lesson rather than learning one?  I think better of you than you do yourself and the proof is in my words to you. 

[The Scott]

I AGREE that Nubret is better in that picture.

But can you please tell me what is wrong with Ronnies physique in the above picture? What's bad about it?

You can still prefer Nubret's physique without necessarily thinking there is anything wrong with Ronnies physique in that picture.

I think of the entire presentation, i.e., Arnold not only possessed a superb physique but also a rapier like wit and enough charm to make the world his own.  Reeves had facial good looks coupled with a physique that together is still (albeit subjectively) non pareil.  These are but two examples of men that made more of themselves than just a bodybuilder.

Coleman is 300 pounds of shit (70s parlance for drugs) in a 70 IQ.  John said it best.

Muscularly obese.

As for prior to his "success" as a bodybuilder, I am not concerned with that.  He was average for a drugger and I freely admit that I am biased against him for the aforementioned reasons.  He is subject to my personal litmus test of what greatness as it relates to bodybuilding means.

It may sound like faint praise but I think Coleman is better than Kai.  But then Kai is a slut, so reality is Coleman would have to be a horrid person to be worse than Kai and he is not. Coleman is just an average bodybuilder made grossly overbuilt by drugs who happens to be as dumb as box of busted Legos.

[SF1900]

I think of the entire presentation, i.e., Arnold not only possessed a superb physique but also a rapier like wit and enough charm to make the world his own.  Reeves had facial good looks coupled with a physique that together is still (albeit subjectively) non pareil.  These are but two examples of men that made more of themselves than just a bodybuilder.

Coleman is 300 pounds of shit (70s parlance for drugs) in a 70 IQ.  John said it best.

Muscularly obese.

As for prior to his "success" as a bodybuilder, I am not concerned with that.  He was average for a drugger and I freely admit that I am biased against him for the aforementioned reasons.  He is subject to my personal litmus test of what greatness as it relates to bodybuilding means.

It may sound like faint praise but I think Coleman is better than Kai.  But then Kai is a slut, so reality is Coleman would have to be a horrid person to be worse than Kai and he is not. Coleman is just an average bodybuilder made grossly overbuilt by drugs who happens to be as dumb as box of busted Legos.

But who cares about their personalities if we are STRICTLY judging their physique.

Arnold was known to be a MAJOR PRICK back in the day. Yet, you still like his physique. Ferrigno is currently a MAJOR douchebag, but you still like his physique back in the day.

So, it seems like youre judging Ronnies physique based on his personality, but not doing the same when it comes to Arnold. Again, Arnold wasn't the nicest person back in the day either. In fact, as stated above, he was pretty much an asshole and not a nice person. But, Arnold gets a pass? 

As for Ronnie being an average bodybuilder, well, when you compare his past physique to the people of the golden era, you would have to say their physiques were average. In the above pic, Ronnie has more of the classic look when compared to when he got disgustingly big.

[The Scott]

But who cares about their personalities if we are STRICTLY judging their physique.

Arnold was known to be a MAJOR PRICK back in the day. Yet, you still like his physique. Ferrigno is currently a MAJOR douchebag, but you still like his physique back in the day.

So, it seems like youre judging Ronnies physique based on his personality, but not doing the same when it comes to Arnold. Again, Arnold wasn't the nicest person back in the day either. In fact, as stated above, he was pretty much an asshole and not a nice person. But, Arnold gets a pass? 

As for Ronnie being an average bodybuilder, well,could when you compare his past physique to the people of the golden era, you would have to say their physiques were average. In the above pic, Ronnie has more of the classic look when compared to when he got disgustingly big.

And some people don't care for Arnold's physique at all.  So be it.  I can question it but the truth is that is their right.  I have met Arnold and several others from the 70s (I used to be young!) and they were pretty normal guys for the most part. 

I don't care for Coleman's physique and think even less of him personally.  I am certain that this causes him no concern.  For one, who am I?  No one, really!   For another, he's a fast becoming a barely ambulatory mound of mumbling moron so I doubt he is capable of comprehending anything above a third grade level.

I am far from a genius but neither am I a total retard that spends his time "Yip! Yip! Yeah buddy"(ing) and talking about how its comeback time after multiple surgeries meant to stave off the effects of his moral mendacity on his physical body. 

I don't like Coleman and he has done nothing either on the dais or in this world to change that. 

[SF1900]

And some people don't care for Arnold's physique at all.  So be it.  I can question it but the truth is that is their right.  I have met Arnold and several others from the 70s (I used to be young!) and they were pretty normal guys for the most part. 

I don't care for Coleman's physique and think even less of him personally.  I am certain that this causes him no concern.  For one, who am I?  No one, really!   For another, he's a fast becoming a barely ambulatory mound of mumbling moron so I doubt he is capable of comprehending anything above a third grade level.

I am far from a genius but neither am I a total retard that spends his time "Yip! Yip! Yeah buddy"(ing) and talking about how its comeback time after multiple surgeries meant to stave off the effects of his moral mendacity on his physical body. 

I don't like Coleman and he has done nothing either on the dais or in this world to change that. 

Well, then I guess it basically comes down to who you give a pass to and who you don't. You don't like Coleman for certain aspects of his personality, but youre willing to look passed Arnold's sometimes "not so nice" personality. I guess we all have our biases.

[Yamcha]

Coleman is just an average bodybuilder made grossly overbuilt by drugs who happens to be as dumb as box of busted Legos.

 

[Tha Grim Lifter]

Ronnie '99 is pretty much the best ever, you could flip with Dorian on his condition in certain contests but Ronnie still had the small waist, better quads, better arms, even better back in the Back double Bi.

Ronnie got too big / didn't diet down far enough in later years. 2002 doesn't count, Chad didn't have him diet down to say 252 like he did at the 2001 Arnold, he put him on a liquid diet to lose fucking muscle. Chad is retarded. Ronnie should have stayed down around 260 in his later years to keep the smaller waist, clearly it worked in 2001 I don't see why it wouldn't 2-3 years later. 2005 he was closer at 275 and looked good but still heavier in condition than 98-99.

Heath is not bad, good condition especially early, width who gives a fuck he has the muscles no-one has the perfect structure. He seems to have lost condition in the last few years but still better than the field other than Wolf but Wolf got screwed over in 2007 and lost his way a bit.

[thebrink]

I guess in terms of sheer clavicuar width, Ronnie might have been even narrower than Heath. Wonder why noone has broght that up yet?

Because 'how dare they!'