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less hiring
cost of goods food ect increase
more tax collected by gov per person
less w orkers
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Listen...those fuckers at McDonalds cant get my order right making $10/hr! At $15, they would really fuck it up
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Listen...those fuckers at McDonalds cant get my order right making $10/hr! At $15, they would really fuck it up
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Listen...those fuckers at McDonalds cant get my order right making $10/hr! At $15, they would really fuck it up
Nope. At $15 hour they would feel more respected finally and take more pride in their work. Then your orders will be right. Its a win win situation for everyone.
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Nope. At $15 hour they would feel more respected finally and take more pride in their work. Then your orders will be right. Its a win win situation for everyone.
possibly do there jobs better nothing more its a bad idea n da burgers wud cost moe
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possibly do there jobs better nothing more its a bad idea n da burgers wud cost moe
It's the same as buying American made items knowing that more pride is taken in delivering you a quality product. I think most people would be willing to do that.
It's hard to take pride in any job when you're basically working like a slave with nothing to show for.
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less hiring
cost of goods food ect increase
more tax collected by gov per person
less w orkers
stats by your lead economist electrical champion
less hiring by way of less turnover
no cost of good increase(see walmart), fast food companies end up saving money the high turnover rate of the fast food industry cost them quite a bit
more taxes is bad?
false
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less hiring by way of less turnover
no cost of good increase(see walmart), fast food companies end up saving money the high turnover rate of the fast food industry cost them quite a bit
more taxes is bad?
false
if u have2 pay employee more then u have to increase price of goods to not lose money from paying higher wages
yes more taxes are bad basically lining pockets4 government.
i am lead economist nordic atlantean electrical champion
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if u have2 pay employee more then u have to increase price of goods to not lose money from paying higher wages
yes more taxes are bad basically lining pockets4 government.
i am lead economist nordic atlantean electrical champion
if u pay employee more, they don't leave as often. it takes about 20-30% of a worker's salary to replace them. walmart did this last year, and they unilaterally raise prices everywhere did they?
and look, i can make up a title too
His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular
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if u pay employee more, they don't leave as often. it takes about 20-30% of a worker's salary to replace them. walmart did this last year, and they unilaterally raise prices everywhere did they?
and look, i can make up a title too
His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular
if walmart is paying there workers more , this increase in pay is loss of revenue,the workers are doing the same work they arent magically more efficient
it costs nothing more than 1 day of pay to train a low level worker
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if u pay employee more, they don't leave as often. it takes about 20-30% of a worker's salary to replace them. walmart did this last year, and they unilaterally raise prices everywhere did they?
and look, i can make up a title too
His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular
isnt proveable people quit or get fired for all sorts of things
chief economist president of new age
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bah bah bah.. all it means is less people at the gym, and more people working
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there was a time in the USA when working 40 hours a week paid enough for you to support you and your family. No longer.
Lower wages means fewer consumers to buy your product.
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there was a time in the USA when working 40 hours a week paid enough for you to support you and your family. No longer.
Lower wages means fewer consumers to buy your product.
read above how higher wages are a no win
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there was a time in the USA when working 40 hours a week paid enough for you to support you and your family. No longer.
Lower wages means fewer consumers to buy your product.
There was a time in the USA when the total tax bill on a family of 4 was 10%, not 40%.
The problem lies in Washington.
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That is insanity.
Some clubs pay $15/hr to their doormen, lol!
$15 to do unskilled work is pure horseshit and fuck no they won't be more productive, not a chance.
I remember being 14 and thinking to myself it would be a dream job to work at Mc Donalds! The "money" and free food, how can it get any better?
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read above how higher wages are a no win
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When you raise the price on something, a good or service, do people then want to buy more or less of it?
When you raise the cost of doing business does this make it easier or harder to run your business?
Who wants to live on $15 dollars an hour? That's $600/wk and you take home $480 if you are single. Who can live on that. A shitty one bedroom apartment here is $1,200. If you really care about workers why not make the minimum wage $30/hr?
Who continues making minimum wage after six months on the job?
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Who continues making minimum wage after six months on the job?
Restaurant workers, janitors, hotel housekeeping, store clerks, the staff at your gym
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Restaurant workers, janitors, hotel housekeeping, store clerks, the staff at your gym
Wrong. Even Mcdonald's starts at above min wage and you get a raise after 3-6 months on the job. This does not include jobs where you get tips like restaurant workers.
BTW, with the exception of a house keeper, I've worked all those jobs.
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Wrong. Even Mcdonald's starts at above min wage and you get a raise after 3-6 months on the job. This does not include jobs where you get tips like restaurant workers.
so if you're saying so few people make minimum wage, raising it wouldn't cost that much.
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so if you're saying so few people make minimum wage, raising it wouldn't cost that much.
But,
Tim, you're doing it again. You are reinterpretating my words to suit your agenda. I didn't say "so few people make minimum wage". I said, "Who continues making minimum wage after six months on the job?"
Big difference.
I didn't bother with the graphs. Not really in the mood to sort all that shit out right now.
What do you think the minimum wage should be
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I didn't bother with the graphs. Not really in the mood to sort all that shit out right now.
16 million people in the US make minimum wage. only 20% of those 16 million are under 20.
What do you think the minimum wage should be
Doesn't matter. We don't need workers any more. All the high paying manufacturing jobs have been gone for a while. All the high paying white collar jobs are disappearing quickly.
Self driving cars are less than 20 years away. After that we won't need anyone who gets paid to drive, including truckers, bus drivers, taxi drivers, delivery people.
So either in the not too distant future, the vast majority of the world will be in abject poverty (and that tends to cause revolutions), or we'll have guaranteed income. Everyone will be given a living wage for doing very little or nothing at all.
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When you raise the price on something, a good or service, do people then want to buy more or less of it?
When you raise the cost of doing business does this make it easier or harder to run your business?
Who wants to live on $15 dollars an hour? That's $600/wk and you take home $480 if you are single. Who can live on that. A shitty one bedroom apartment here is $1,200. If you really care about workers why not make the minimum wage $30/hr?
Who continues making minimum wage after six months on the job?
sorry, $30/hr?...you'd need more than a GED to get that... ;D
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They should just raise it. Then Taco Bell will cost what Chipotle does and Chipotle will be $20. Then they all can all pay the new medical tax like the rest of us.
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They should just raise it. Then Taco Bell will cost what Chipotle does and Chipotle will be $20. Then they all can all pay the new medical tax like the rest of us.
Chipotle is loosing mad money these days eversince that food scare.....it's scary to see stores that used to be packed to the teeth at lunch time are now almost empty....wow...they need to recover fast
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I remember a time when people who worked at Mcdonalds were kids and the only adult was the manager
Working at a fast food restaurant was a beginner/entry level job. The low pay was an incentive to get an education and training and go on to higher paying, better jobs
Now you you see a lot more adults working there
People have become complacent
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Raise the McDonalds minimum wage and
1) The price increases of food so less people go there, means less employees needed so Macas pays say 4 employee's $15 instead of 6 employees $10
2) You get a higher quality employee wanting the job which means the restaurant will choose better quality employee's over the ones they have now
Both mean lower skilled workers working there now will not have as many opportunities available to enter the workforce.
It's an entry level job. I left uni 15 years ago I didn't get into a high paying job I had to learn skills. At Macas it's basic shit anyone can do it (I did for 3.5 years) if people want a better paying job learn the skills and move to a better job. This is what happens in China, a lot of people complain they don't get paid enough, I've been there and spoken to factories, once good employee's skill up they can easily move to a better paying factory in 6 months. That's how it should be.
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I remember a time when people who worked at Mcdonalds were kids and the only adult was the manager
Working at a fast food restaurant was a beginner/entry level job. The low pay was an incentive to get an education and training and go on to higher paying, better jobs
Now you you see a lot more adults working there. People have become complacent
Now it's a career for some.
Automated robots will eventually replace most of these jobs. Robots don't miss work and don't need healthcare benefits.
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I work for a small to medium sized company (some 25 full time jobs + some 10 part timers/on call people) and I'm the only "middle" management here, and as such 2nd in command, if you will. We have a legal minimum wage of 8.50€/h since 1.1.2015 over here, and unions are pushing for a raise, with the most common figure being 10€ an hour. It's a double edged sword for sure. On the one hand cost of living over here is a bitch and I couldn't see myself getting by on 8.5 or even 10€ an hour, especially not with the ridiculous cut the man takes for taxes, health insurance, social security etc. pp., on the other hand there's work that simply doesn't generate a value equivalent to what we end up paying for them to work (wage + 30% nonwage labour costs + fixed costs for electricity, maintenance, tools and so forth). Now, I don't want to oversimplify the issue by saying "if you want people to be able to live off of their wage, lower taxes and other dues", but it sure it already is a competitive enough world for a company like us. We mostly serve companies much larger than us and the hordes of fresh off the university "strategic purchasers" (or similarly important sounding titles) the companies hire only care for their numbers, and why wouldn't they, after all that's what they're paid to do.
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Chipotle is loosing mad money these days eversince that food scare.....it's scary to see stores that used to be packed to the teeth at lunch time are now almost empty....wow...they need to recover fast
Yeah, the E-coli thing. Where is it coming from? Employees shitting in the food or what? I've been in 4 different Chipotle stores. Maybe they should try not hiring lazy hipsters that are covered in tatts and piercings. These are people living with mom and dad in their dirty rooms, driving around filthy trash filled cars and probably don't wash their hands either. The cleanest Chipotle I have been in was being worked in by mostly Mexican immigrants.
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16 million people in the US make minimum wage. only 20% of those 16 million are under 20.
Doesn't matter. We don't need workers any more. All the high paying manufacturing jobs have been gone for a while. All the high paying white collar jobs are disappearing quickly.
Self driving cars are less than 20 years away. After that we won't need anyone who gets paid to drive, including truckers, bus drivers, taxi drivers, delivery people.
So either in the not too distant future, the vast majority of the world will be in abject poverty (and that tends to cause revolutions), or we'll have guaranteed income. Everyone will be given a living wage for doing very little or nothing at all.
And there you go. And in the same breath people claim that raising the price of labor doesn't reduce the demand of labor (jobs). There use to be a time when someone pumped your gas and washed dishes by hand. But keep raising the cost of labor and then claim if business owners can't afford to pay their workers the higher wage then they shouldn't be in business. Doesn't work that way. They just eliminate the job.
About ten years ago Albertson's cashiers went on a strike demanding higher wages. They're union so they have a lot of bargaining power. They won. They got their higher wages. The eight checkout lines went down to four with the other four being self-serve. Even during non peak hours the self serve line is always open.
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Wasn't there a time when people would strike and/or unionize to establish fair working environments? Asking the government to step in usually doesn't end well.
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I remember a time when people who worked at Mcdonalds were kids and the only adult was the manager
Working at a fast food restaurant was a beginner/entry level job. The low pay was an incentive to get an education and training and go on to higher paying, better jobs
Now you you see a lot more adults working there
People have become complacent
As the pay gets higher it attracts more applicants. The employer can now be more picky whom they hire. Why hire a teenager with all the problems it brings when you can hire an adult? An adult is working there to supplement the household income. It's bread on the table. A teen is there to earn concert, gas and weed money. They don't have as strong as an incentive to give a shit. So an employer's incentive is to hire an adult.
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less hiring
cost of goods food ect increase
more tax collected by gov per person
less w orkers
stats by your lead economist electrical champion
Maybe? But look, ANYTHING that helps get more getbiggers to move out of their mom's basement gets my support.
Hope this helps.
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less hiring
cost of goods food ect increase
more tax collected by gov per person
less w orkers
stats by your lead economist electrical champion
more spending, less social services due to less people being on skid row, less crime due to less desperate people, better facilities due to more tax revenue.
obviously someone way smarter than us costed your negatives with my positives and worked out that the best overall position is by increasing minimum wage.
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Yeah, the E-coli thing. Where is it coming from? Employees shitting in the food or what? I've been in 4 different Chipotle stores. Maybe they should try not hiring lazy hipsters that are covered in tatts and piercings. These are people living with mom and dad in their dirty rooms, driving around filthy trash filled cars and probably don't wash their hands either. The cleanest Chipotle I have been in was being worked in by mostly Mexican immigrants.
the e-coli is coming from factory farms and slaughter houses. cooking the meat thoroughly is important. but cross contamination between the raw meat and fresh produce is probably happening.
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They should just raise it. Then Taco Bell will cost what Chipotle does and Chipotle will be $20. Then they all can all pay the new medical tax like the rest of us.
Not sure why everyone's so upset about this. Most of these minimum wage proposals phase the increase in over a 6 or more year period. It's not like tomorrow you minimum wage earners will show up at work delighted to discover you just got a big raise.
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more spending, less social services due to less people being on skid row, less crime due to less desperate people, better facilities due to more tax revenue.
obviously someone way smarter than us costed your negatives with my positives and worked out that the best overall position is by increasing minimum wage.
Yeah, and that's just by raising it to $15 and hour. Imagine if we raised it to $100/hour. Not only will people use less social services
but we'll all be rich.
BTW, who is the "obviously someone way smarter than us" you are talking about?
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CPI is at about 3.5% a year. Wages have not kept pace with CPI. The last time the Federal minimum wage was increased was in 2009. CPI increases every year. Folks are trying to survive on 2009 wages with 2016 prices. It doesn't work.
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Years ago high school kids and retirees worked at McDonalds/fast food. Now you have adults with families working at Micky D's and complaining they can't make a living wage. Grow up and get a real job!
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bah bah bah.. all it means is less people at the gym, and more people working
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How can you have more people working when businesses have to raise costs to cover the mandated wage. It will drive consumers away. Holy shit, you're a PhD candidate?????
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Years ago high school kids and retirees worked at McDonalds/fast food. Now you have adults with families working at Micky D's and complaining they can't make a living wage. Grow up and get a real job!
I suspect most of them have tried. I suspect this is a bit difficult when you don't speak the language. For many the job at McDonalds is just one of several they go to each week.
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How can you have more people working when businesses have to raise costs to cover the mandated wage. It will drive consumers away. Holy shit, you're a PhD candidate?????
Corporate profits have never been higher. CEO's earn millions more than they ever have in the past. Obviously, someone is making out just fine. Ever hear of slavery?
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Corporate profits have never been higher. CEO's earn millions more than they ever have in the past. Obviously, someone is making out just fine. Ever hear of slavery?
Let's just assume for one second you're right about profits never being higher (which is BS because the economy pretty much sucks) do you actually think those profits aren't being reinvested to create more stores that in turn creates more jobs? Think about that. Who gives a shit if profits are higher. That's what you go into business for and honestly you couldn't live without these businesses.
As far as CEO's that are making millions? Good for them. They should. They're smarter than us, they assume the risk and make most of the decisions. It's their decisions that drive this economy, keep the doors open and create jobs. Let's go over this. You would rather pay $15 or more for a minimum wage than to help create more stores and more jobs?
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Not sure why everyone's so upset about this. Most of these minimum wage proposals phase the increase in over a 6 or more year period. It's not like tomorrow you minimum wage earners will show up at work delighted to discover you just got a big raise.
Indeed, when you look at these minimum wage proposals, it's a raise of $.50 - $1.00 an hour, per year till they reach the mythical $15/hour minimum wage in most states. It's probably only pennies over what would've been the worker's merit raises anyway. Much to do about nothing.
Aside from San Francisco, Seattle, etc... the big jumps only seem to be happening in the public sector.
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Corporate profits have never been higher. CEO's earn millions more than they ever have in the past. Obviously, someone is making out just fine. Ever hear of slavery?
Who is going to raise corporate tax levels, dis-allow profit being moved overseas, and reduce CEO pay? Not either of the parties that are part of the money kickback from the very same corporations. Not even when they outright say it, swear it nada....not gonna happen.
We can't be this gullible in the USA. Surely. Voting on emotion created by politicians..."we will get those greedy CEO's back by raising the minimum wage"...meanwhile every small time McDonald's franchise owner goes out of business and the corporation scoops up the locations and puts a burger making robot in there.
If the market bears $15 an hour so be it. But as for gov't mandates I'll pass....I have mandated health insurance that costs 50% more and has 1/2 of my old coverage(if that). Did the medical companies get smaller, make less money? No, they consolidated and should have gotten more efficient. But after everybody figured out the govt mandated guaranteed money was coming they set prices that they wanted, not prices that they needed to just be profitable. That deal was struck by the same politicians you believe want to get back at "rich CEOs". It's nonsense and the real slave masters are having it all ways - making the laws to get paid and telling you how to think to keep them in office.
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Who is going to raise corporate tax levels, dis-allow profit being moved overseas, and reduce CEO pay? Not either of the parties that are part of the money kickback from the very same corporations. Not even when they outright say it, swear it nada....not gonna happen.
We can't be this gullible in the USA. Surely. Voting on emotion created by politicians..."we will get those greedy CEO's back by raising the minimum wage"...meanwhile every small time McDonald's franchise owner goes out of business and the corporation scoops up the locations and puts a burger making robot in there.
If the market bears $15 an hour so be it. But as for gov't mandates I'll pass....I have mandated health insurance that costs 50% more and has 1/2 of my old coverage(if that). Did the medical companies get smaller, make less money? No, they consolidated and should have gotten more efficient. But after everybody figured out the govt mandated guaranteed money was coming they set prices that they wanted, not prices that they needed to just be profitable. That deal was struck by the same politicians you believe want to get back at "rich CEOs". It's nonsense and the real slave masters are having it all ways - making the laws to get paid and telling you how to think to keep them in office.
Better not thinking about it.
Only makes you angry and high blood pressure isn't exactly healthy.
Alone you can't do anything anyway.
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Indeed, when you look at these minimum wage proposals, it's a raise of $.50 - $1.00 an hour, per year till they reach the mythical $15/hour minimum wage in most states. It's probably only pennies over what would've been the worker's merit raises anyway. Much to do about nothing.
Most of the "low skill" jobs that are here (michigan) you will never reach $15/hour in that amount of time. Not even close.
What is interesting is that with the increase in minimum wage, prices may go up and those who aren't low skill may not receive any sort of compensation for that and they become the ones now making less in a way.
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16 million people in the US make minimum wage. only 20% of those 16 million are under 20.
Doesn't matter. We don't need workers any more. All the high paying manufacturing jobs have been gone for a while. All the high paying white collar jobs are disappearing quickly.
Self driving cars are less than 20 years away. After that we won't need anyone who gets paid to drive, including truckers, bus drivers, taxi drivers, delivery people.
So either in the not too distant future, the vast majority of the world will be in abject poverty (and that tends to cause revolutions), or we'll have guaranteed income. Everyone will be given a living wage for doing very little or nothing at all.
this is our future well said
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How can you have more people working when businesses have to raise costs to cover the mandated wage. It will drive consumers away. Holy shit, you're a PhD candidate?????
exactly
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i dont have a serious solution against raising the min wage yet
but increasing to 15hr creates alot more probs than it solve like inflation and less jobs
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Corporate profits have never been higher. CEO's earn millions more than they ever have in the past. Obviously, someone is making out just fine. Ever hear of slavery?
An employment contract doesn't have the same relationship as slavery. It's agreed upon that employers make a profit.
You can always go to school, invent something, work smarter to make more money.
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anyone can live off 8per hour provided they had a couple of roomates
many young people dont even work and social services pay these peoples rent money and put 4 of them together. in a4 bedroom house
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u gain ur bosses trust and respect and he will gladly move u up the ladder to more pay
a boss should be allowed to be a boss if this is a free country and pay 3 dollars an hour if his workers will work 4 that
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Let's just assume for one second you're right about profits never being higher (which is BS because the economy pretty much sucks) do you actually think those profits aren't being reinvested to create more stores that in turn creates more jobs? Think about that. Who gives a shit if profits are higher. That's what you go into business for and honestly you couldn't live without these businesses.
As far as CEO's that are making millions? Good for them. They should. They're smarter than us, they assume the risk and make most of the decisions. It's their decisions that drive this economy, keep the doors open and create jobs. Let's go over this. You would rather pay $15 or more for a minimum wage than to help create more stores and more jobs?
Just like the CEO's of the major banks and investment firms were so smart right before floor fell out of the subprime mortgage market and thus the real estate market in 2008. If you call robbing millions of people and getting a way with it smart, than you are right.
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How can you have more people working when businesses have to raise costs to cover the mandated wage. It will drive consumers away. Holy shit, you're a PhD candidate?????
An increase in minimum wage in the U.S. will have little effect on manufacturers since they mainly employ workers in 3rd world countries. When was the last time you bought something that was made in the U.S.A.?
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Indeed, when you look at these minimum wage proposals, it's a raise of $.50 - $1.00 an hour, per year till they reach the mythical $15/hour minimum wage in most states. It's probably only pennies over what would've been the worker's merit raises anyway. Much to do about nothing.
Aside from San Francisco, Seattle, etc... the big jumps only seem to be happening in the public sector.
I don't know about other places, but public employees in Oregon have seen their hours cut, moratoriums on cost of living increases, rollbacks on step increases, and reductions in benefits including medical insurance and PERS.
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Just like the CEO's of the major banks and investment firms were so smart right before floor fell out of the subprime mortgage market and thus the real estate market in 2008. If you call robbing millions of people and getting a way with it smart, than you are right.
Never fails to stun me, when people mix-up what's "smart" vs. what's crooked. But many people do it. I guess they don't know any better.
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A total train wreck for the very people it's designed to help - great politics, terrible economics ...
What will happen ( has already been proven) take a basic Econ class and you will be taught this- price ceilings, wage floors etc... all help encourage destruction long term, large scale...
When companies are FORCED to pay $15 an hour more people who actually HAVE skills will be enticed to enter the job market, this will eventually lead to the single moms , bums, people with other types of problems etc.. to be pushed out because they can't compete with the new people entering the job market now ... if you're an employer you will choose the Community college student over a person with only a high school diploma, you will choose the student on summer break from a 4 year college over a single mom or GED holder, the kids going to college and others entering the job market now usually have access to better resources - reliable transportation, day care can be arranged, they are generally better in hygiene and appearance, speak more fluently, less problems with the law, can pass a drug test, deal with people better, can solve problems better, WORK with people better etc... raising the minimum wage to unrealistic levels will hurt the people it was intended to help in the LONG run because they CAN'T compete with people who aren't lazy, obey the law consistently, don't do drugs, aren't full of tats, on probation ....
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Minimum wage was never meant to be a livable wage. It's for high school and college kids starting in the work place. It's a place for say a wife to supplement her husband's income. Its for someone with no real job skills to get a start.
If you want to pay people 29K a year to flip burgers these places are going to have to make up for their losses resulting in fewer employees and higher prices. So a husband and wife with their two kids working at Burger King is going to be a household of $116K that the hamburger place is going to have to pay out.
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Never fails to stun me, when people mix-up what's "smart" vs. what's crooked. But many people do it. I guess they don't know any better.
You got me! It is occasionally smart to be crooked.
Many of those thieves are living the highlife which I guess means they are smart in some folks minds. Keep in mind some of them are now living behind bars or dead. Didn't Bernie Madoff's son commit suicide by hanging himself using a dog leash? Wonder how smart Bernie thinks he was now that his wife no longer speaks to him and his son committed suicide because of his dad's greed?
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Bernie Sanders wants $15 min wage only to tax them at 90%....Lol
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Minimum wage was never meant to be a livable wage. It's for high school and college kids starting in the work place. It's a place for say a wife to supplement her husband's income. Its for someone with no real job skills to get a start.
If you want to pay people 29K a year to flip burgers these places are going to have to make up for their losses resulting in fewer employees and higher prices. So a husband and wife with their two kids working at Burger King is going to be a household of $116K that the hamburger place is going to have to pay out.
Can you provide proof of this?
Most minimum wage workers are lucky when they can find half time jobs which provide vertually no benefits. In 2016, 150% of poverty level for a family of 3 is a little over $30,000. which is the annual salary before taxes for a person working fulltime @ $15.00 an hour. Families of three with this income qualify for public assistance. -Your choice, pay folks to work or pay them to go on the dole.
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Bernie Sanders wants $15 min wage only to tax them at 90%....Lol
I cannot believe how people convolute these things. Pay attention, the Democrats and even some reasonable Republicans are proposing to lower income tax on the middleclass. Currently, folks near or below the poverty level do not pay income tax.
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Can you provide proof of this?
Most minimum wage workers are lucky when they can find half time jobs which provide vertually no benefits. In 2016, 150% of poverty level for a family of 3 is a little over $30,000. which is the annual salary before taxes for a person working fulltime @ $15.00 an hour. Families of three with this income qualify for public assistance. -Your choice, pay folks to work or pay them to go on the dole.
The last sentence of this post is such bullshit. You act like that's the only two alternatives. "Pay folks to work or pay them to go on the dole". How about this. Give them some fucking incentive to start a legit business where income is sky's the limit. For fucks sake, teach them to make something of themselves instead of settling for the status quo. Holy shit!!
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EVERYONE chooses their own destiny.
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The last sentence of this post is such bullshit. You act like that's the only two alternatives. "Pay folks to work or pay them to go on the dole". How about this. Give them some fucking incentive to start a legit business where income is sky's the limit. For fucks sake, teach them to make something of themselves instead of settling for the status quo. Holy shit!!
If but that were possible. Ten percent of all adults are self-employed, including just 4% who own their own business and have employees working for them. Statistics do not support your reasoning.
Look, I am all for folks starting their own business. My dad did very well as a contractor while he was able to work, Unfortunately, he forgot to invest in retirement and he shorted himself on Social Security. It is lucky he passed when he was 64 or he and my mom would have probably been living in the poorhouse...I think today that means living on the street or moving in with your kids...no thank you.
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If but that were possible. Ten percent of all adults are self-employed, including just 4% who own their own business and have employees working for them. Statistics do not support your reasoning.
Look, I am all for folks starting their own business. My dad did very well as a contractor while he was able to work, Unfortunately, he forgot to invest in retirement and he shorted himself on Social Security. It is lucky he passed when he was 64 or he and my mom would have probably been living in the poorhouse...I think today that means living on the street or moving in with your kids...no thank you.
What the fuck do "statistics" have to do with movtivating people to get off their asses and make something of themselves? It's a bullshit excuse to keep them oppressed. The "progressive" movement have made society so fucked they feel they can't do anything either without the help of government or they feel entitled. For Christs sake, this feeling of self entitlement has removed people from not knowing what dignity is.
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less hiring
cost of goods food ect increase
more tax collected by gov per person
less w orkers
stats by your lead economist electrical champion
Haha, the rich fear this shit.
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What the fuck do "statistics" have to do with movtivating people to get off their asses and make something of themselves? It's a bullshit excuse to keep them oppressed. The "progressive" movement have made society so fucked they feel they can't do anything either without the help of government or they feel entitled. For Christs sake, this feeling of self entitlement has removed people from not knowing what dignity is.
It would seem when you don't like what is factual, you call those facts bullshit excuses. Furthermore, your comments regarding "the progressive movement" and entitlement are smoke screens. Stay on topic, if you can.
The Progressive Movement was an effort to cure many of the ills of American society that had developed during the great spurt of industrial growth in the last quarter of the 19th century. The frontier had been tamed, great cities and businesses developed, and an overseas empire established, but not all citizens shared in the new wealth, prestige, and optimism.