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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Never1AShow on January 17, 2016, 09:46:05 AM
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I think we should take the massive brainpower and experience of Getbig and try to use it constructively to come up with new types of gym equipment. I'm sick of hearing about the biceps supinator invented a hundred years ago. It has not all been invented, not even close.
My idea is for a kind of back machine where you can do a "rowing" chin-up while lying on your back facing the ceiling. Works off of body weight but can also load plates like Hammer for extra resistance.
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My idea is for a kind of back machine where you can do a "rowing" chin-up while lying on your back facing the ceiling. Works off of body weight but can also load plates like Hammer for extra resistance.
We don't need machine for that. They're called inverted rows. We do them all the time
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I think we should take the massive brainpower and experience of Getbig and try to use it constructively to come up with new types of gym equipment. I'm sick of hearing about the biceps supinator invented a hundred years ago. It has not all been invented, not even close.
My idea is for a kind of back machine where you can do a "rowing" chin-up while lying on your back facing the ceiling. Works off of body weight but can also load plates like Hammer for extra resistance.
The one and only. Basile just needs to add a few more attachments, in order to make his bicep supination machine a multi-dimensional piece of equipment. There has to be some way to turn his bicep supinator into a chest, tricep, shoulder, back, and leg machine. You know, like a transformer.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=394408.0;attach=428409;image)
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We don't need machine for that. They're called inverted rows. We do them all the time
I use rings and a weighted vest for variety.
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So what muscles or muscle groups does it exactly train apart from maybe the sphincter?
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The one and only. Basile just needs to add a few more attachments, in order to make his bicep supination machine a multi-dimensional piece of equipment. There has to be some way to turn his bicep supinator into a chest, tricep, shoulder, back, and leg machine. You know, like a transformer.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=394408.0;attach=428409;image)
Great idea however I see several potential problems.
The biggest of which is this bicep machine is noted for its simplicity. Adding to it or adjusting it would take it from being an effective and efficient isolater of the bicep supination to just another cumbersome piece of gym equipment taking up space.
It's simple design is its greatest quality.
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We don't need machine for that. They're called inverted rows. We do them all the time
Yeah, it's unwieldy using standard gym equipment. Doesn't get to the belly of the muscles in the midback region. I think it can be done much better and with easier addition to body weight with a simple contraption. We aren't in the critical stage now, we are in the dreaming/exploring stage of the creativity loop.
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Great idea however I see several potential problems.
The biggest of which is this bicep machine is noted for its simplicity. Adding to it or adjusting it would take it from being an effective and efficient isolater of the bicep supination to just another cumbersome piece of gym equipment taking up space.
It's simple design is its greatest quality.
Hmmmm, excellent points. Well, then it looks like we are going to have to contract Basile to build us individual machines for each body part!
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Hmmmm, excellent points. Well, then it looks like we are going to have to contract Basile to build us individual machines for each body part!
Basile would never build a machine for such flotsam and jetsam!
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I always wanted a chest machine where you could lock/change/rotate the hand position
With a fleshflight option
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you will make more money inventing a new abs apparatus to market on TV or a new tomato dicer
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So what muscles or muscle groups does it exactly train apart from maybe the sphincter?
The forearms
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Hmmmm, excellent points. Well, then it looks like we are going to have to contract Basile to build us individual machines for each body part!
This is an Awesome idea! But we need to identify for each body part the secret or the key to development analogous to "supination" for the biceps. For chest I believe it is and overextension past body midpoint for fly type exercises. You need to be able to push another six inches range of motion past center point.
What is it for the other body parts?
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I've thought about a vest or vest-type belt harness that helps keep the back straight while deadlifting. Imagine a regular belt with a harness that goes up your back and then straps to your shoulders and keeps them pulled back.
I know a lot of people that have wrecked their backs from deads.
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This is an Awesome idea! But we need to identify for each body part the secret or the key to development analogous to "supination" for the biceps. For chest I believe it is and overextension past body midpoint for fly type exercises. You need to be able to push another six inches range of motion past center point.
What is it for the other body parts?
Not too sure, but this is why we need to contract Basile. He is the expert. We need to heed his advice.
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Basile would never build a machine for such flotsam and jetsam!
Of course he would. Dont be ridiculous.
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you will make more money inventing a new abs apparatus to market on TV or a new tomato dicer
I have so many fitness related ideas. I am prolific in ideas but never follow through. Feel free to use them to make a million dollars. Here is another idea. Like my gym, I think many many gyms across the country are situated in complexes that also have restaurants serving breakfast through dinner. But my experience is that very few of these restaurants capitalize in anyway on the gym traffic. I think all of these places could add to their traffic and sales by offering fitness/bodybuilding specific choices in addition to their normal menu. Kind of like how the Firehouse in Venice does for Golds. It wouldn't cost much to offer a limited group of low fat healthy choices. You could come up with a "fitness menu" and promotional materials to hang in the windows of both places. Ask for a small percentage and charge for the pre prepared marketing materials.
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The forearms
Well it looks to me it does exactly the opposite.
It disburdens the forearms if you ask me.
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I've thought about a vest or vest-type belt harness that helps keep the back straight while deadlifting. Imagine a regular belt with a harness that goes up your back and then straps to your shoulders and keeps them pulled back.
I know a lot of people that have wrecked their backs from deads.
See this is exactly the kind of thinking I'm talking about. There was a time before the Inzer shirt, a time before the preacher bench.
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I use rings and a weighted vest for variety.
Yep, we use bands, a thick rope, TRX, vests, chains, elevated feet (on a box or bench)
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Yep, we use bands, a thick rope, TRX, vests, chains, elevated feet (on a box or bench)
My oh my, make sure you say that in context!
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My oh my, make sure you say that in context!
Ha!
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iron bar, iron weights on bar, up and down
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iron bar, iron weights on bar, up and down
Eugene Sandow of peace. No bench even?
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;D there you go
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The only machine that you need is some that works and targets the chest, bicep and abs in one motion. Cut work out time down to 10 minutes
call the "pussy pulling every day build machine".. and every dude will buy it.
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That looks pretty good if I was a hermit or on a desert island, but I want to isolate muscles in a gym setting. I'm already going to be at a gym.
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;D there you go
Too complicated for Basile.
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The only machine that you need is some that works and targets the chest, bicep and abs in one motion. Cut work out time down to 10 minutes
call the "pussy pulling every day build machine".. and every dude will buy it.
To some extent flyes work biceps also, same with cable crossovers. Maybe I can drag the abcrunch machine over to the cable crossovers.
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Most guys doing an inverted row like the picture show won't need extra weight if they go all the way up touching their chest. . After that a weighted vest is a fantastic addition to lot of exercises.
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Most guys doing an inverted row like the picture show won't need extra weight if they go all the way up touching their chest. . After that a weighted vest is a fantastic addition to lot of exercises.
FWIW, most trainers these days coach that the elbow should not go behind the shoulder on this exercise. I am on the fence about it for ROM reasons, but the guys that are preaching the limited ROM are legit.
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I'm not a fan of machines, but I would welcome a versatile machine like this in my gym
(http://cdn1c.dazadi.com/images/p300/freemotion_VFMCS4007.jpg)
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So what muscles or muscle groups does it exactly train apart from maybe the sphincter?
THAT got my attention. :P
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FWIW, most trainers these days coach that the elbow should not go behind the shoulder on this exercise. I am on the fence about it for ROM reasons, but the guys that are preaching the limited ROM are legit.
What gym has a low bar like that? You end up having to use a weight bar in a rack or smith machine which is unwieldy and wasteful of gym resources. When you are at the top using a nonfixed bar the bar can come up off the pins.
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I'm not a fan of machines, but I would welcome a versatile machine like this in my gym
(http://cdn1c.dazadi.com/images/p300/freemotion_VFMCS4007.jpg)
I've trained in a gym with 2 of those. They are good for a lot of ranges of motion. Good change of pace, mix up the angles.
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FWIW, most trainers these days coach that the elbow should not go behind the shoulder on this exercise. I am on the fence about it for ROM reasons, but the guys that are preaching the limited ROM are legit.
Why would a limited range be better? You decrease flexibility using a short range and less muscle involvement because the exercise is easier the shorter the ROM. Many guys who do half shoulder and chest presses have tears because when the enviable deeper rep happened the joint is tight from using heavy weights through a short range of motion.
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Why would a limited range be better? You decrease flexibility using a short range and less muscle involvement because the exercise is easier the shorter the ROM. Many guys who do half shoulder and chest presses have tears because when the enviable deeper rep happened the joint is tight from using heavy weights through a short range of motion.
I believe the explanation had something to do with the potential for shoulder injury.
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What gym has a low bar like that? You end up having to use a weight bar in a rack or smith machine which is unwieldy and wasteful of gym resources. When you are at the top using a nonfixed bar the bar can come up off the pins.
When I do them with a bar (not often, because I prefer the rings), I use a 45 lb bar on pins in a rack. It's my rack in my gym in my house, so I don't worry about the wastefulness of the gym equipment.
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When I do them with a bar (not often, because I prefer the rings), I use a 45 lb bar on pins in a rack. It's my rack in my gym in my house, so I don't worry about the wastefulness of the gym equipment.
When I've done with a bar on a rack like that the bar enviably comes up off the rack at some point. Seems a bit unstable.
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Why would a limited range be better? You decrease flexibility using a short range and less muscle involvement because the exercise is easier the shorter the ROM. Many guys who do half shoulder and chest presses have tears because when the enviable deeper rep happened the joint is tight from using heavy weights through a short range of motion.
I know it is autocorrect's fault but there it is: the enviable deeper rep !
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What gym has a low bar like that? You end up having to use a weight bar in a rack or smith machine which is unwieldy and wasteful of gym resources. When you are at the top using a nonfixed bar the bar can come up off the pins.
Using a smith machine for this is one of the 2 things a smith machine is useful for, outside using it as place to hang your towel.
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you will make more money inventing a new abs apparatus to market on TV or a new tomato dicer
Like O' Hearn's frogger ab while gimmick?
Only $1600 or something like that...