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Those were fun times. Who's the first guy in the top vid?
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Born in 1970. Came of age in the glorious '80s.
Wish I could go back and remain in that decade.
The chicks were hottest then, too.
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Those were fun times. Who's the first guy in the top vid?
I didn't watch the vid, but its benfatto on the pic, no?
edit, watched it and it is not benfatto. American amateur. great physique.
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late 80's
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late 80's
Dude, you look unreal there. Wow.
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Dude, you look unreal there. Wow.
thank you, sent a pic to muscle mag one time hoping to be discovered. (pre internet).
means a ton coming from you, read all your articles in mmi (I've got all of the first 200 issues) as well as other publications you wrote for.
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thank you, sent a pic to muscle mag one time hoping to be discovered. (pre internet).
means a ton coming from you, read all your articles in mmi (I've got all of the first 200 issues) as well as other publications you wrote for.
Well, I just call it how I see it. What an impressive build, brother.
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late 80's
Awesome!!
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Well, I just call it how I see it. What an impressive build, brother.
thank you. I did the Canadians in 1991, 1995, 2001, 2005 and 2007. never competed often enough to get my face known, or to figure out how to peak for a show. here is a pic from my last contest in 2007 wt - 234 ht - 5'9''
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Owning Ben there... but I'm assuming he had you on legs
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Those were good times following bodybuilding. And then things changed. Flipping through a bodybuilding magazine in the early 90's, the first bodybuilder that I noticed that started taking things to a new level was Mohammed Benaziza, and then the rest of the competitors followed, and now the majority look like pregnant hippos.
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Owning Ben there... but I'm assuming he had you on legs
yup, there's a damn good reason the pic is cropped! ;D
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Born in 1970. Came of age in the glorious '80s.
Wish I could go back and remain in that decade.
The chicks were hottest then, too.
you must have gotten to know them all pretty good no? trish, Stacey, mellisa.... is it true that Bob's office was near a strip club and he would recruit from there?
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Two from 1984. :) Thirty-two years ago. Seems like yesterday.
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you must have gotten to know them all pretty good no? trish, Stacey, mellisa.... is it true that Bob's office was near a strip club and he would recruit from there?
I dont know where he recruited from but at that time and area, where MMI shop was, I remember there used to be a ton of strip bars. Used to try to sneak in before hitting legal age. ;D
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late 80's
4-eyes...how old where you there? Looked great
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Two from 1984. :) Thirty-two years ago. Seems like yesterday.
holy shit!! you had the potential to go pro! why did you not?
and lol at the car. I had a 1977 Honda civic and I would angle park, get out and lift the back end to slide it over to the parallel parking spot.
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4-eyes...how old where you there? Looked great
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This shots pretty sick...
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=460377.0;attach=506939;image)
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Yes, I do..
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holy shit!! you had the potential to go pro! why did you not?
and lol at the car. I had a 1977 Honda civic and I would angle park, get out and lift the back end to slide it over to the parallel parking spot.
:D You're a good man Hazbin. Appreciate the positive words. Those barely 18 inch arms and 35 inch waist @218-220 derailed my bodybuilding dreams. It was tough to win almost every power meet I entered and barely crack the top-6 in my bodybuilding shows.
Back in those days there were 4-5 cars that I could lift effortlessly. The 1984 Honda Civic was my favorite.
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i grew up in the 80's wish i could get into a time machine and go back there and stay there
simple things meant more then, hell i remember me and my brother loved going to the video store and would be excited if the movie we wanted was in stock.
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i grew up in the 80's wish i could get into a time machine and go back there and stay there
simple things meant more then, hell i remember me and my brother loved going to the video store and would be excited if the movie we wanted was in stock.
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yamcha i loved that movie and i remember this part very well
"you cant stop whats coming "
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i grew up in the 80's wish i could get into a time machine and go back there and stay there
simple things meant more then, hell i remember me and my brother loved going to the video store and would be excited if the movie we wanted was in stock.
So true. I miss those times for the simplicity as well. The hairy muffs though, could be trimmed or shaved for ideal pussy eating conditions...
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my favorite 80's rock group
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So true. I miss those times for the simplicity as well. The hairy muffs though, could be trimmed or shaved for ideal pussy eating conditions...
ha ha yeah your right , hell i remember how excited we were to get cable tv, like it was the greatest thing ever.
or the first time i had a big mac, and a nacho bell grande.
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ha ha yeah your right , hell i remember how excited we were to get cable tv, like it was the greatest thing ever.
or the first time i had a big mac, and a nacho bell grande.
And best of all, no cell phones.
As a kid, you could be gone all day, nobody worried. You played outside all day, went back for supper then went back out until bed time.
None of us were fat either!
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When I see pics of 80s women they are so incredibly hot compared to today.
Dunno what happened.
Maybe it's the anti-pregnancy pills or hormones in drinking water idk.
Today's women look boring in comparison.
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i grew up in the 80's wish i could get into a time machine and go back there and stay there
simple things meant more then, hell i remember me and my brother loved going to the video store and would be excited if the movie we wanted was in stock.
yes!!!! so true...we would run from the car to the video store...sometimes the movie would be out of stock in VHS but in stock in Beta....argggg lol those were the days...
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So true. I miss those times for the simplicity as well. The hairy muffs though, could be trimmed or shaved for ideal pussy eating conditions...
I'm glad most women remove all the hair now. Even back then a hairy bush never looked good.
And back then, white girls didn't have the asses like they do now. They were all flat as a pancake. The 80's were more about big tits than big asses.
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And best of all, no cell phones.
As a kid, you could be gone all day, nobody worried. You played outside all day, went back for supper then went back out until bed time.
None of us were fat either!
you got that right ritch kids today cannot even take themselves away from there cellphones or ipads long enough to play outside.
and yes i remember those days in the summer being outside all day . i was lucky to live in a rural setting for a few years.
in a small town. every body knew each other to .
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And back then, white girls didn't have the asses like they do now. They were all flat as a pancake. The 80's were more about big tits than big asses.
That's an astute observation...
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And back then, white girls didn't have the asses like they do now. They were all flat as a pancake. The 80's were more about big tits than big asses.
Don't know about their asses, but women's breasts are definitely bigger now than they've ever been. Selective breeding or estrogenic compounds in the water and food? Probably both.
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0:40 mark.
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And best of all, no cell phones.
As a kid, you could be gone all day, nobody worried. You played outside all day, went back for supper then went back out until bed time.
None of us were fat either!
So true. Outside all day was definitely the way.
I always boot the kids outside if the weather is good when they have friends over.
But, I can easily admit if I had something as cool as an iPad and the video games were better when I was a kid, it would have kept me inside a bit more. It's hypocritical to think otherwise.
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you must have gotten to know them all pretty good no? trish, Stacey, mellisa.... is it true that Bob's office was near a strip club and he would recruit from there?
I'd always assumed Bob wasn't recruiting from that side of the fence. Please tell me I'm wrong.
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When I see pics of 80s women they are so incredibly hot compared to today.
Dunno what happened.
Maybe it's the anti-pregnancy pills or hormones in drinking water idk.
Today's women look boring in comparison.
I was in college in the late 70's and early 80's. Women dressed fine for college. So many wore heels and skirts. They also wore heels and tight jeans. I was just by a division I school Rutgers and all the women were dressed like homeless people. Either pajama bottoms or dirty looking jeans with a crappy tee shirt and dirty sneakers. Their hair looked like they woke up with it.
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So true. Outside all day was definitely the way.
I always boot the kids outside if the weather is good when they have friends over.
But, I can easily admit if I had something as cool as an iPad and the video games were better when I was a kid, it would have kept me inside a bit more. It's hypocritical to think otherwise.
Kids play outside lots today. Most of the problems are from parents whose heads are up their asses. On welfare, lazy single moms, divorced, selfish, not paying attention to their kids, on their own phones all the time. General fuckups.
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Kids play outside lots today. Most of the problems are from parents whose heads are up their asses. On welfare, lazy single moms, divorced, selfish, not paying attention to their kids, on their own phones all the time. General fuckups.
Funny. All I see are neighbourhoods virtually empty of any kids whatsoever. Most kids I know don't even have friends any more.
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I was just by a division I school Rutgers and all the women were dressed like homeless people. Either pajama bottoms or dirty looking jeans with a crappy tee shirt and dirty sneakers. Their hair looked like they woke up with it.
This is the new norm; and girls wonder why guys only see them as cum dumpsters these days....
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Two from 1984. :) Thirty-two years ago. Seems like yesterday.
Shit Tommy never saw that contest pic of you. You looked great.
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thank you, sent a pic to muscle mag one time hoping to be discovered. (pre internet).
means a ton coming from you, read all your articles in mmi (I've got all of the first 200 issues) as well as other publications you wrote for.
I also got MMI every month rather than Flex so my memory is composed of MMI cover shots (Matarazzo/Newman/other shockers), so now I'm intrigued, is Fortresses real ID just for some/secret or is it known to the board?
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Don't know about their asses, but women's breasts are definitely bigger now than they've ever been. Selective breeding or estrogenic compounds in the water and food? Probably both.
Their boobs are fatter as the girls are fatter. They get fatter young ending up as the fat whales we see them too early on in life.
It's a good/bad thing...
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I also got MMI every month rather than Flex so my memory is composed of MMI cover shots (Matarazzo/Newman/other shockers), so now I'm intrigued, is Fortresses real ID just for some/secret or is it known to the board?
I may get banned for revealing his personal info, but he is Perry Rader.
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Funny. All I see are neighbourhoods virtually empty of any kids whatsoever. Most kids I know don't even have friends any more.
I hesitate to ask, but how often are you by playgrounds after school til it starts to get dark? Most working folks are just coming home then.
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This shots pretty sick...
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=460377.0;attach=506939;image)
Crazy shot Hazbin. Thick and wide as shit.
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I may get banned for revealing his personal info, but he is Perry Rader.
LOL I appreciate you taking the risk of a bullet for an anonymous internet prole - thanks dude
(http://www.live-for-today.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Club-Hero-Award.jpg)
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Shit Tommy never saw that contest pic of you. You looked great.
Thanks brother. I was still a long way from figuring out how to "dial in" for bodybuilding shows. Powerlifting was easy- bodybuilding was always much tougher for me. Always fun though. Stay cool man.
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Thanks brother. I was still a long way from figuring out how to "dial in" for bodybuilding shows. Powerlifting was easy- bodybuilding was always much tougher for me. Always fun though. Stay cool man.
same here on the bodybuilding. I had an uncanny ability of getting rid of 25 lbs. of pure muscle in the three days before a show.
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I may get banned for revealing his personal info, but he is Perry Rader.
lol
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Tommy and Haz,...............great pics guys.
Props!!
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Watched this about the 80s around the holidays last year - it's spot on.
http://www.history.com/shows/christmas-through-the-decades
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back before dorian had the ears pinned
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I graduated high school in the mid 80's. I remember as a kid in school, at most there would be one fat kid in class. That was about it. Back then, we didn't have fast food restaurants in close proximity to schools like they do now. No wonder so many kids these days are obese. Majority are hooked on processed crap by the time they even get into high school. It's crazy.
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I graduated high school in the mid 80's. I remember as a kid in school, at most there would be one fat kid in class. That was about it. Back then, we didn't have fast food restaurants in close proximity to schools like they do now. No wonder so many kids these days are obese. Majority are hooked on processed crap by the time they even get into high school. It's crazy.
Not sure....I ate salami/cheese on wonder bread, those disgusting hostess fruit pies which were crisco and sugar, and some other snack almost every day for lunch and I was ripped.
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Much more entertainment options result in much more sedentary kids. You can watch cartoons on Netflix or YouTube all day long. Video games out the wazoo. And while sitting there they are snacking. And many are on psych meds which screw up their metabolism further.
I ate a ton of crap as a kid but we almost never ate out. Some McDonalds here and there but not like today where it is incredibly cheap and omnipresent. Couple this with awful parents usually fat and on depression meds themselves always bringing huge amounts of sweets into the house. Tvs and tablets and computers in bedrooms. Parents allowing kids to vegetate and graze.
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I graduated high school in the mid 80's. I remember as a kid in school, at most there would be one fat kid in class. That was about it. Back then, we didn't have fast food restaurants in close proximity to schools like they do now. No wonder so many kids these days are obese. Majority are hooked on processed crap by the time they even get into high school. It's crazy.
'86 here. We had every fastfood establishment you could imagine within the 30-45 minute to-and-fro walking distance lunchtime allowed. Several fatties, but only enough that you could still bully them in good conscience.
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Seen it happen pretty quickly in real life to some young kids. In 6-18 months, eating crap, lotsa fast food, chips, cookies, not going outside playing games and watching too much tv. Got sloppy fat 20-30 lbs overweight.
Similarly, I saw it reverse itself in the same kids in 6-12 months once situation changed for the kids.
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would have to throw the early part of the 90's in there also.
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'86 here. We had every fastfood establishment you could imagine within the 30-45 minute to-and-fro walking distance lunchtime allowed. Several fatties, but only enough that you could still bully them in good conscience.
Exactly - within a mile of each other in Central NJ, we had: Roy Rogers / McDonalds / Burger King / Arby's / Wendy's / Stewart's (hot dogs) and two kick ass NJ diners, as well as a couple pizza places.
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Those were fun times. Who's the first guy in the top vid?
Steven Reiter,came top 5 in 83 nationals in light heavy class
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late 80's
Benfatto?
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Benfatto?
binfatso
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I didn't watch the vid, but its benfatto on the pic, no?
edit, watched it and it is not benfatto. American amateur. great physique.
Steven Reiter
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Steven Reiter
you are right. once I watched it I realized it wasn't benfatto, and recognized steven from my old mags but couldn't remember his name. I remember thinking 'why isn't this guy pro?? even more impressive in video than in stills.
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You can look back at the top 5 in most shows from the 80s and they look better than than todays pro`s.I remember seeing pics of Steven at the 83 nationals and being impressed but can`t recall him competing again.
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'86 here. We had every fastfood establishment you could imagine within the 30-45 minute to-and-fro walking distance lunchtime allowed. Several fatties, but only enough that you could still bully them in good conscience.
When I went to my 25 year high school reunion it was interesting to see that quite a few of the skinny guys in school filled out considerably and several are quite buff now. And conversely, quite a few of the fatties got slimmer. I think some went on some serious dieting prior to the reunion. A third of my graduating class that was at the 25 year reunion was divorced at least once.
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You can look back at the top 5 in most shows from the 80s and they look better than than todays pro`s.I remember seeing pics of Steven at the 83 nationals and being impressed but can`t recall him competing again.
My senior year of high school was 83/84
Bob Paris was the NPC National winner in 1983 and Jeff King was the AAU winner
I think both were ~ 23 at the time
naturally...I assumed I would look like they did by the time I reached that age... ???
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things weren't better back then, the only difference is you were younger, healthier, and probably less jaded
why would you miss the video store today when there is netflix, on demand, or you could just download a torrent?
youtube allows you to see any music video you want whenever you want, rather than waiting for it on mtv
the only thing that looked better about women back then is they didn't have tattoos, other than that they're the same
movies and music were better then, but the net today allows us to relive that stuff whenever we want
the only thing i miss from the 80's is bodybuilding, our sport will never be that good again and you can't just rewatch a contest like you can a movie or music you liked from that decade
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Tommy and Haz,...............great pics guys.
Props!!
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My senior year of high school was 83/84
Bob Paris was the NPC National winner in 1983 and Jeff King was the AAU winner
I think both were ~ 23 at the time
naturally...I assumed I would look like they did by the time I reached that age... ???
watch mike christian in 1st video he was pissed basically walked away off stage until they called him back he hit crab shot and left again,,gaspari was pissed too he looks like he should have been place ahead of mendenhall...
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watch mike christian in 1st video he was pissed basically walked away off stage until they called him back he hit crab shot and left again,,gaspari was pissed too he looks like he should have been place ahead of mendenhall...
I think that's Carla Dunlap telling MC to settle down
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things weren't better back then, the only difference is you were younger, healthier, and probably less jaded
why would you miss the video store today when there is netflix, on demand, or you could just download a torrent?
youtube allows you to see any music video you want whenever you want, rather than waiting for it on mtv
the only thing that looked better about women back then is they didn't have tattoos, other than that they're the same
movies and music were better then, but the net today allows us to relive that stuff whenever we want
the only thing i miss from the 80's is bodybuilding, our sport will never be that good again and you can't just rewatch a contest like you can a movie or music you liked from that decade
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Things like YT, Netflix just make you not appreciate video's/movies as much. Before, a given show played once a week, one time slot. If you missed it, tough shit unless you or someone else recorded it with the VCR.
There was something about going to take a piss during commercials, rushing to get back to watch the rest of your show that just made it so much more fun.
I loved the example of going to a video store! I was always there renting games and hoping to rent the new releases. As shitty as it was to have to bring them back if not renting others, the whole experience was so much more exciting. Also, having the game for just a few days made you play non stop wanting finish it.
And did women act like such cum dumpsters back then? Sure some or them, but now it's soooo overdone, no taboo's exist no more, everything is in the open. It's not like it was, but you're right we were much less jaded back then and new to the world in general.
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binfatso
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late 80's
Hazbin, that pic is UNREAL, you look as good as Gaspari did. Incredible muscle density and separation. WOW!!
your brother in Christ,
Lucky
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things weren't better back then, the only difference is you were younger, healthier, and probably less jaded
why would you miss the video store today when there is netflix, on demand, or you could just download a torrent?
youtube allows you to see any music video you want whenever you want, rather than waiting for it on mtv
the only thing that looked better about women back then is they didn't have tattoos, other than that they're the same
movies and music were better then, but the net today allows us to relive that stuff whenever we want
the only thing i miss from the 80's is bodybuilding, our sport will never be that good again and you can't just rewatch a contest like you can a movie or music you liked from that decade
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No way. One of the main things that ruined this culture was the gangsta rap movement. People became more rude, crass and obscene. With youtube and social media people would would normally be ignored now become famous/infamous. People became much more self-absorbed and conceited. Everyone thinks they are or will be a star.
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watch mike christian in 1st video he was pissed basically walked away off stage until they called him back he hit crab shot and left again,,gaspari was pissed too he looks like he should have been place ahead of mendenhall...
Christian was such a cry baby. With those legs Gaspari should have beaten him.
I'm not a huge fan of Gaspari but he definitely should have beaten Mendenhall. He looked great in that show and he was only 20 years old.
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Christian was such a cry baby. With those legs Gaspari should have beaten him.
I'm not a huge fan of Gaspari but he definitely should have beaten Mendenhall. He looked great in that show and he was only 20 years old.
Gaspari vs Mendenhall is like poor structure vs great structure. Matt had so much potential, not sure what was holding him other than his cocaine issues.
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Was a kid in the 80ies but the times seemed more upbeat and people appeared to be wealthier - guessing from what I experienced around my friends' families.
The 80ies seemed to be thriving with the power/crispness of the 70ies and the more hedonistic, techy and ultimately nihilistic coming ages.
Great times - peak times of the west.
Btw, neck and forearm people used to swell uncontrollably in said decade :D
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Gaspari vs Mendenhall is like poor structure vs great structure. Matt had so much potential, not sure what was holding him other than his cocaine issues.
Definitely Matt had a much better structure. It's really amazing how far Gaspari got considering. By all accounts, he was an insanely driven, disciplined and intense individual.
LOL @ "other than his cocaine issues"
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Bodybuilding suffers from the same fate as porn. It's a visual sport and the Internet has made visual depictions cheap and immediately available. The magic is pretty much gone when you have an unlimited library available instantly on demand.
Add to that the second punch of all the drug info being so widely disseminated and it greatly loses its appeal.
We should be very very happy on some levels for our tremendous overabundance, but the price we paid is the loss of innocence.
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Definitely Matt had a much better structure. It's really amazing how far Gaspari got considering. By all accounts, he was an insanely driven, disciplined and intense individual.
LOL @ "other than his cocaine issues"
A formal trainer of mine betrayed him sniffing cocaine in the toilet of his gym. Being a true Getbigger, he pulled him out right away.
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Bodybuilding suffers from the same fate as porn. It's a visual sport and the Internet has made visual depictions cheap and immediately available. The magic is pretty much gone when you have an unlimited library available instantly on demand.
Add to that the second punch of all the drug info being so widely disseminated and it greatly loses its appeal.
We should be very very happy on some levels for our tremendous overabundance, but the price we paid is the loss of innocence.
Agree, and this has been the fate of many things that were somewhat special back in the day(music & games come to mind).
There's too much "material" out there to have a healthy, normal sized mainstream bubble watering the markets.
On the other hand, if you're a gourmet and pick the best raisins it's still great and maybe there's more quality out there than ever before.
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Agree, and this has been the fate of many things that were somewhat special back in the day(music & games come to mind).
There's too much "material" out there to have a healthy, normal sized mainstream bubble watering the markets.
On the other hand, if you're a gourmet and pick the best raisins it's still great and maybe there's more quality out there than ever before.
These are actually some very insightful comments. Make you think.
But at the end of the day we've evolved into miserable, despicable creatures destroying our culture and the planet with each passing day and will eventually come to a horrific, violent and bloody end.
But at least we produced an Arnold.
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back before dorian had the ears pinned
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Wow - flashback - thanks for reminding me how much I liked this guy! Incidentally he was the first person I ever looked at and thought "pot belly but visible abs???"
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Gary Taylor was also a pretty good bodybuilder and Olympic lifter. placed a close second to dorian as an amateur and wasn't too happy about it.
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Christian was such a cry baby.f With those legs Gaspari should have beaten him.
I'm not a huge fan of Gaspari but he definitely should have beaten Mendenhall. He looked great in that show and he was only 20 years old.
Based on that short clip, quite baffled he didn't get fifth.
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Gary Taylor was also a pretty good bodybuilder and Olympic lifter. placed a close second to dorian as an amateur and wasn't too happy about it.
Great stuff :D is that from your collection? What mag?
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Gary Taylor was also a pretty good bodybuilder and Olympic lifter. placed a close second to dorian as an amateur and wasn't too happy about it.
Silver medallist at the 84 LA Olympics in the snatch I believe. WSM winner and runner up to Dorian in bodybuilding. No other person has done so well in all three sports.
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Troy Z just starting to think "what the f..?"
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people also go nostalgic and re-invent history by stating how much better things were 2 decades before.
FACT- People in the 90's-early-2000's whined about how much better things were in the 70's 80s
people in the 80's whines about how things were so much better in the 60's and 70's
people in the 70's whine about how things were so much better in the 50-60's
and so on and so on and so
it's just nostalgia.
I long for the 80's as well, but I am also realistic enough to accept my memories serve me well that the times when we were growing up were not appreciated back then like they are now
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No way. One of the main things that ruined this culture was the gangsta rap movement. People became more rude, crass and obscene. With youtube and social media people would would normally be ignored now become famous/infamous. People became much more self-absorbed and conceited. Everyone thinks they are or will be a star.
great observation pellius
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ha yes music i almost forgot,
i remember how excited i would be, when my parents would take me to the record store and buy me a couple albums or tapes.
i always preferrred tapes, my dad was an album guy. dont laugh firt album i ever got as a kid was wham -make it big.
falllowed by prince purple rain
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people also go nostalgic and re-invent history by stating how much better things were 2 decades before.
FACT- People in the 90's-early-2000's whined about how much better things were in the 70's 80s
people in the 80's whines about how things were so much better in the 60's and 70's
people in the 70's whine about how things were so much better in the 50-60's
and so on and so on and so
it's just nostalgia.
I long for the 80's as well, but I am also realistic enough to accept my memories serve me well that the times when we were growing up were not appreciated back then like they are now
There were things that were better/cooler then, and things that are better/cooler now.
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There were things that were better/cooler then, and things that are better/cooler now.
yes, exactly.
we sound like our parents and grandparents who we have become ie, "I don't like what the kids do, listen to, who they hang out with, how they are lazy etc etc etc.
Parents and grandparents used to say the same shit about us when we were done, and the same shit was said about all of them when they were young(remember how parents lost their fucking minds when the beatles, elvis, ect came out)
Nuff said
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No way. One of the main things that ruined this culture was the gangsta rap movement. People became more rude, crass and obscene. With youtube and social media people would would normally be ignored now become famous/infamous. People became much more self-absorbed and conceited. Everyone thinks they are or will be a star.
people haven't changed the difference is now we have the internet to see people for what they really are, people have always been self absorbed and conceited the selfies of today just make it more obvious
if people are more rude that's the generation that grew up in the 70's and 80's fault for not raising their kids properly
you probably didn't notice or care back then, heck you might have been rude yourself ignorance is bliss
everybody thinks they will be a star today because the internet makes it easier to be a star, this isn't the first generation that preferred being a rich celebrity over working a regular job
if youtube, social media, and any technology of today existed 30 years ago it would've been no different than now
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Great stuff :D is that from your collection? What mag?
one European released muscle mag. i'll check. I bought boxes of magazines from the 80's. the muscle mag international and flex magazines were different from the north American ones. so I get home and take a look and all the mags have 'cocks' printed on the cover. wtf??? so as I am looking thru I see a mail delivery sticker for subscriptions and the guy's name is 'ian cocks'. what are the chances of that!! he coulda wrote 'ian' on the cover dammit!!!
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people haven't changed the difference is now we have the internet to see people for what they really are, people have always been self absorbed and conceited the selfies of today just make it more obvious
if people are more rude that's the generation that grew up in the 70's and 80's fault for not raising their kids properly
you probably didn't notice or care back then, heck you might have been rude yourself ignorance is bliss
everybody thinks they will be a star today because the internet makes it easier to be a star, this isn't the first generation that preferred being a rich celebrity over working a regular job
if youtube, social media, and any technology of today existed 30 years ago it would've been no different than now
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Nope. People have changed. You may blame their parents for their lack of manners and rudeness but being more rude and impolite is a change. Who you blame is a separate issue. But the fact is that people are different.
I was just watching an old clip on PBS on Babe Ruth and they had a reporter standing in front of the stadium doing some commentary. It suddenly dawned on my that all the people in the background are dressed in suits and ties and women wearing ankle length dresses. And no one is clowning around and making faces and trying to get on camera.
Someone here said that every generation considers twenty years ago the good old days. Well, I was born in 1960 and lived through those years. By the time I was 8 years old I was very aware of the Vietnam war and the hippies movement. During the 1980s I never looked fondly back at the 60's and 70's. In fact, I trace all social ills to the cultural revolution of the late sixties/early seventies.
I was glad to see the 70s end and the"malaise" of the Carter administration. When Reagan came in there was a whole different mood in the country. Hope, the dawning of the new age, we were on top again.
Then the 1990s with rap and the Thug life gangsta culture that all the youth wanted to emulate. Decent girls from decent families now falling for the nigs from the inner city and the wigger wannabes both out of rebellion and excitement.
I can remember overhearing my sister and her friends in her bedroom talking about one them that just had her first kiss. She was sixteen. Laughing and making jokes about her "sweet sixteen" kiss.
First kiss at sixteen. LOL. Now it's giving your first blow job at 12 and getting finger banged in the bushes.
I don't know how old you are but I've live through these decades and have seen the changes. And if you think people today are more decent, honest, civil and considerate you just haven't been paying attention or are simply too young to know.
And with exception of electronics, they are also way, way less educated and informed. There whole life literally revolves around their cell phone.
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Culture has taken a very narcissistic turn in the last 10 years. People see the YouTube Facebook Instagram shenanigans and take it as validation of their own poor behavior. We also have pulled back the curtain on many things exposing ugly truths without any filtering to kids whose parents take no part in curating or shepherding their development. Societal structure is breaking down along with the structure of the family.
Is it too late to go back? Probably. Even if it were possible it will mean tremendous pain and suffering for all, not just the lazy undisciplined addicted crass slobs on the dole whose numbers have been growing exponentially.
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anyone see these Flex covers before?
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anyone see these Flex covers before?
Nope, are those covers shot by Mike Neveux?
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Nope, are those covers shot by Mike Neveux?
Me neither? But I feel like I've maybe seen that shot of Bertil before...?
(PS - Is this Mike below?)
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anyone see these Flex covers before?
Yes mate,got all of them,the Labrada cover pic is from the 88 greece grand prix that he won.Gary Taylor placed 2nd to Dorian in 88 and 2nd to Ian Harrison in 89 british heavyweights.On top of his weightlifting and WSM win he has to be up there as best ever overall strength athlete.
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anyone see these Flex covers before?
yes I had some of em...
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Me neither? But I feel like I've maybe seen that shot of Bertil before...?
(PS - Is this Mike below?)
I only remember him from the eighties/nineties as a guy with a beard, but I think it's him.
Here's a more recent pic (right from the other Mike)
(http://www.easysite.com/sitedata/wwwclarkbartramcom/EditorItem_278_2_228165.jpg)
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Me neither? But I feel like I've maybe seen that shot of Bertil before...?
(PS - Is this Mike below?)
Negative. Thats Jim Amentler.
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Negative. Thats Jim Amentler.
One happy schmoe..
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Negative. Thats Jim Amentler.
Of course it is!! Thanks Tommy :)
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I only remember him from the eighties/nineties as a guy with a beard, but I think it's him.
Here's a more recent pic (right from the other Mike)
(http://www.easysite.com/sitedata/wwwclarkbartramcom/EditorItem_278_2_228165.jpg)
Is the blond chick in the back with OHearn? All the others are paired up except the balding guy with one leg.
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anyone see these Flex covers before?
Yes those are the UK covers. Inside of mag is the same as US version.
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Is the blond chick in the back with OHearn? All the others are paired up except the balding guy with one leg.
Clark Bartram with the fu2 shirt
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Wake up the synth player. Plug in the drummer. ::)
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Wow - flashback - thanks for reminding me how much I liked this guy! Incidentally he was the first person I ever looked at and thought "pot belly but visible abs???"
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Gary Taylor was a beast. 6'0" and between 285 and 295 (during his strongman days) with very little fat. He was a bodybuilder before becoming an Olympic weightlifter (900 pound deadlift and squat and over 500 pound bench press) and eventual World's strongest man (1991-1997). He unfortunately had both his knees crushed while flipping a 1000 pound tire in a comeback competition in 1997, which forced him into retirement. He won WSM in 1993 and came close in 1991 and would have in 1995 if it wasn't for the last event where he couldn't reach the top of the wall to set a very light (for his standards) object on. It made him slip all the way to 5th or 6th place overall.
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Most of us getbiggers had much more hair in the 80s
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Is the blond chick in the back with OHearn? All the others are paired up except the balding guy with one leg.
No, his girl is a Hungarian brunette, forgot her name
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Gary Taylor was a beast. 6'0" and between 285 and 295 (during his strongman days) with very little fat. He was a bodybuilder before becoming an Olympic weightlifter (900 pound deadlift and squat and over 500 pound bench press) and eventual World's strongest man (1991-1997). He unfortunately had both his knees crushed while flipping a 1000 pound tire in a comeback competition in 1997, which forced him into retirement. He won WSM in 1993 and came close in 1991 and would have in 1995 if it wasn't for the last event where he couldn't reach the top of the wall to set a very light (for his standards) object on. It made him slip all the way to 5th or 6th place overall.
Glad someone else remembers that from the WSM,he was doing great but even though he had the bag pressed at full arms extended he wasn`t tall enough to put it on the platform,fucking stupid event.
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Glad someone else remembers that from the WSM,he was doing great but even though he had the bag pressed at full arms extended he wasn`t tall enough to put it on the platform,fucking stupid event.
I felt so bad for the poor bastard. yelling at the tv 'this isn't fukkkin fair!!'
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Nope. People have changed. You may blame their parents for their lack of manners and rudeness but being more rude and impolite is a change. Who you blame is a separate issue. But the fact is that people are different.
I was just watching an old clip on PBS on Babe Ruth and they had a reporter standing in front of the stadium doing some commentary. It suddenly dawned on my that all the people in the background are dressed in suits and ties and women wearing ankle length dresses. And no one is clowning around and making faces and trying to get on camera.
Someone here said that every generation considers twenty years ago the good old days. Well, I was born in 1960 and lived through those years. By the time I was 8 years old I was very aware of the Vietnam war and the hippies movement. During the 1980s I never looked fondly back at the 60's and 70's. In fact, I trace all social ills to the cultural revolution of the late sixties/early seventies.
I was glad to see the 70s end and the"malaise" of the Carter administration. When Reagan came in there was a whole different mood in the country. Hope, the dawning of the new age, we were on top again.
Then the 1990s with rap and the Thug life gangsta culture that all the youth wanted to emulate. Decent girls from decent families now falling for the nigs from the inner city and the wigger wannabes both out of rebellion and excitement.
I can remember overhearing my sister and her friends in her bedroom talking about one them that just had her first kiss. She was sixteen. Laughing and making jokes about her "sweet sixteen" kiss.
First kiss at sixteen. LOL. Now it's giving your first blow job at 12 and getting finger banged in the bushes.
I don't know how old you are but I've live through these decades and have seen the changes. And if you think people today are more decent, honest, civil and considerate you just haven't been paying attention or are simply too young to know.
And with exception of electronics, they are also way, way less educated and informed. There whole life literally revolves around their cell phone.
Good post.