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If you have not seen this movie, you HAVE to watch it. The guy that made Bigger, Stronger and FAster made it and it REALLY opens your eyes to the prescription pill issue in this country and how the governemt is making BANK on this shit!
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I watched a doco about some good suburb town where nearly all the youths were hooked on vicadin then heroin, you guys have a huge problem with prescription drugs, you shouldn't be getting pain killers meant for terminal illness/post op for trivial complaints
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Rx pain pills are EXPENSIVE as fuck!
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Doctors get so many kickbacks for handing out free samples. My doctor would open the cabinet and there'd be boxes of all sorts of shit in sample form including Viagra, Heartburn meds, blood pressure etc... Any time I was left alone I would check to see if the cabinet was unlocked and most times it wasn't but when It was I would reach and fill my pockets will all sort of goodies.
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Doctors get so many kickbacks for handing out free samples. My doctor would open the cabinet and there'd be boxes of all sorts of shit in sample form including Viagra, Heartburn meds, blood pressure etc... Any time I was left alone I would check to see if the cabinet was unlocked and most times it wasn't but when It was I would reach and fill my pockets will all sort of goodies.
Big pharma & insurance companies are runnin the show
The U.S is roughly 11% of the worlds population but we consume 70+% of the worlds pharmaceuticals
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Big pharma & insurance companies are runnin the show
The U.S is roughly 11% of the worlds population but we consume 70+% of the worlds pharmaceuticals
I remember reading that in the last 10 years the use of prescription pain meds has gone up something 4-5 times.
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I've been on morphine and those little vikes just don't compare. It's like going from steroids to Cybergenics.
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Big pharma & insurance companies are runnin the show
The U.S is roughly 11% of the worlds population but we consume 70+% of the worlds pharmaceuticals
and about 40th in life expectancy, the pills arent doing shit
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I've been on morphine and those little vikes just don't compare. It's like going from steroids to Cybergenics.
Isn't morphine the purest form of heroin? Some guy wrote a book on why heroin is so addictive vs. Morphine. People claim all it takes is one hit of heroin to be addicted but then why do millions of people go to the hospital for surgery and not leave as addicts? Interesting question to think of.
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Isn't morphine the purest form of heroin? Some guy wrote a book on why heroin is so addictive vs. Morphine. People claim all it takes is one hit of heroin to be addicted but then why do millions of people go to the hospital for surgery and not leave as addicts? Interesting question to think of.
They all operate on the opioid recepters
Any opioid is converted into morphine. Whether its tramadol, vicodin, oxy, hydro, heroin
As with testosterone and test precursors
Like Androstenedione, dhea. They eventually get converted into test
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Isn't morphine the purest form of heroin? Some guy wrote a book on why heroin is so addictive vs. Morphine. People claim all it takes is one hit of heroin to be addicted but then why do millions of people go to the hospital for surgery and not leave as addicts? Interesting question to think of.
I think the fact you inject heroin, it must give a rush that nothing else can compare to. I've never used it, never will.
I've taken morphine before to sleep after being up a few days. Not many times, but never felt the urge to use it in following days. My inner senses won't even allow me to as I know it's a horrible idea.
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I think the fact you inject heroin, it must give a rush that nothing else can compare to. I've never used it, never will.
I've taken morphine before to sleep after being up a few days. Not many times, but never felt the urge to use it in following days. My inner senses won't even allow me to as I know it's a horrible idea.
I never fucked with heroin bc i knew id love it. Now, i did use Nubain for some time but never had the extreme withdrawls some did. (smoking weed did help). I had a good friend Od from Heroin one year to the day that she started.
they were saying in the movie that people like pills bc they know its 100% pure. With heroin, its stepped on and cut with god knows what.
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I never fucked with heroin bc i knew id love it. Now, i did use Nubain for some time but never had the extreme withdrawls some did. (smoking weed did help). I had a good friend Od from Heroin one year to the day that she started.
they were saying in the movie that people like pills bc they know its 100% pure. With heroin, its stepped on and cut with god knows what.
I think a 'normal' person will feel less of a junkie taking prescribed pills vs mainlining smack
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I never fucked with heroin bc i knew id love it. Now, i did use Nubain for some time but never had the extreme withdrawls some did. (smoking weed did help). I had a good friend Od from Heroin one year to the day that she started.
they were saying in the movie that people like pills bc they know its 100% pure. With heroin, its stepped on and cut with god knows what.
Makes sense. Everything is precurser shit from China now in the rec drug world. Here at least. It sucks, but at the same time it's good as it keeps me from even wanting to go out now. But boring as I just know the "speed" no longer kicks, no longer gives me an euphoria and for that, fuck it....
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Where did u see it?
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the reviews are kind of mediocre but I might watch it.
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BSF was biased bullshit towards steroids painting a rosey picture of them like nobody ever fucks themselves up using them.
Watched Precription thugs on the weekend, same biased psudoscience nonsense only this time it was against prescription drugs.
That lady who used to work for the pharma company and wrote the book about them is a certified grade A lunatic.
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Where did u see it?
It was on In Demand.
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They all operate on the opioid recepters
Any opioid is converted into morphine. Whether its tramadol, vicodin, oxy, hydro, heroin
As with testosterone and test precursors
Like Androstenedione, dhea. They eventually get converted into test
Saying DHEA and andro eventually convert to testosterone is mostly a bullshit statement. It might happen to some degree but mostly it doesn't. It's not even a close analogy. It would be more appropriate to compare morphine derivatives to testosterone derivatives that don't need to go down a complex cascade... something like anadrol.
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In short, patients get a script for an opioid pain killer, such as oxycodone, hydrocodone, etc.. They become addicted to it, and when they can no longer get the pills prescribed by a doctor, they then turn to heroin because it's much cheaper, can be more readily available in some cases, and it acts on the same receptors as the pills do.
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In short, patients get a script for an opioid pain killer, such as oxycodone, hydrocodone, etc.. They become addicted to it, and when they can no longer get the pills prescribed by a doctor, they then turn to heroin because it's much cheaper, can be more readily available in some cases, and it acts on the same receptors as the pills do.
Not that easy anymore thanks to the abuse. I had kidney stone surgery a while back and they had to cut into my urethra to get them out. Sent me home with nothing
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The Bell brothers talked about this movie on one of Joe rogans podcasts.
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Not that easy anymore thanks to the abuse. I had kidney stone surgery a while back and they had to cut into my urethra to get them out. Sent me home with nothing
Shit man, I think my buddy had the same operation last year. He got meds after. I feel quezzy in my stomach thinking about that shit....
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Not that easy anymore thanks to the abuse. I had kidney stone surgery a while back and they had to cut into my urethra to get them out. Sent me home with nothing
Very true. Doc used to be able to fax in the request. Now they have to print it up but then I was able to drop off at the drive thru window. Now I need to go in and drop it off and then the bitch pharmacist had to question me all this shit. Fuck you. Just fill it.
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These drugs cause MANY to murder and commit suicide but the pharmaceutical lobby is much stronger than the NRA and no one goes after them. Factor in the fact that the medical industry is 1/6 of this country's economy...good luck fighting the machine.
Most of the nut jobs who commit heinous mass shootings are loaded up on "legal" drugs which parents happily give to them to mask the inadequacies of their parenting since it's a "medical issue".
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Saying DHEA and andro eventually convert to testosterone is mostly a bullshit statement. It might happen to some degree but mostly it doesn't. It's not even a close analogy. It would be more appropriate to compare morphine derivatives to testosterone derivatives that don't need to go down a complex cascade... something like anadrol.
The conversions of andro & dhea to test are wickedly low. At the end of the day there is still a conversion
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Not that easy anymore thanks to the abuse. I had kidney stone surgery a while back and they had to cut into my urethra to get them out. Sent me home with nothing
Holy crap! Two words you never want to hear in the same sentence are "cut" and "urethra"!! :o :'(
Hope you're feeling better now dude
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The U.S is roughly 11% of the worlds population
Your math is not very strong, is it?
Try 4.3%
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Isn't morphine the purest form of heroin? Some guy wrote a book on why heroin is so addictive vs. Morphine. People claim all it takes is one hit of heroin to be addicted but then why do millions of people go to the hospital for surgery and not leave as addicts? Interesting question to think of.
I injected heroin for the first time last year at the age of 42 (just for kicks) and I hated it, made me feel nauseous and sleepy. I have no idea why anybody would become addicted to that shit, I guess it just depends on your personality. I also don't like alcohol or it's effects, therefore I never drink. I do however like ecstasy, 2cb, lsd, mdma, cannabis and steroids. ;D
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Heroin is an addiction you have to "earn", for lack of a better term. Most people who try injecting their first time almost invariably throw up from the nausea. It's also very dangerous to overdose this way since you have no/little tolerance.
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I injected heroin for the first time last year at the age of 42 (just for kicks) and I hated it, made me feel nauseous and sleepy. I have no idea why anybody would become addicted to that shit, I guess it just depends on your personality. I also don't like alcohol or it's effects, therefore I never drink. I do however like ecstasy, 2cb, lsd, mdma, cannabis and steroids. ;D
Am I naive to think that people that choose to do heroin are basically looking to "escape" or "check out" temporarily?
I imagined that's why people abuse some drugs, such as heroin.
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Your math is not very strong, is it?
Try 4.3%
Google is your friend
Last year I was at a chiropractor and they had a video playing on a big flat screen. I kid you not the % I listed above must of been repeated 5 times throughout the 20min vid
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South FL is the pain pill capital of the world.
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Prosecutors say Cadet earned $1.5 million writing prescriptions for 2.5 million oxycodone pills over 15 months. Castronuovo, who at the clinics for less than a year, prescribed more than 750,000 and made $160,000.
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Another doc was busted for RXing 1500 oxy tablets per month to patients. Yeah... per MONTH. That is 50 tabs per day.
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I injected heroin for the first time last year at the age of 42 (just for kicks) and I hated it, made me feel nauseous and sleepy. I have no idea why anybody would become addicted to that shit, I guess it just depends on your personality. I also don't like alcohol or it's effects, therefore I never drink. I do however like ecstasy, 2cb, lsd, mdma, cannabis and steroids. ;D
sometimes it is just good to experiment with new things. Just ask Shizzo! :D
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Here is something I know is factual because I worked on the project. The VA hospitals don't have a way to share electronic records or at least never had one until maybe last year. So a patient can go to 20 VA hospitals and get 20 prescriptions of the same drug. They can then go to 20 different pharmacies and have them filled since most pharmacies only share within their own brand ie. CVS, RiteAid, Walgreens etc... Prescription overdose is a big issue with Military veterans.
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Not that easy anymore thanks to the abuse. I had kidney stone surgery a while back and they had to cut into my urethra to get them out. Sent me home with nothing
Depends on the Dr. I work in the medical field and where I'm at, the docs hand pills out like candy. I see it daily.
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Here is something I know is factual because I worked on the project. The VA hospitals don't have a way to share electronic records or at least never had one until maybe last year. So a patient can go to 20 VA hospitals and get 20 prescriptions of the same drug. They can then go to 20 different pharmacies and have them filled since most pharmacies only share within their own brand ie. CVS, RiteAid, Walgreens etc... Prescription overdose is a big issue with Military veterans.
how in the world is that possible in this day and age?
sad...
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Big pharma & insurance companies are runnin the show
The U.S is roughly 11% of the worlds population but we consume 70+% of the worlds pharmaceuticals
Western medicine is largely symptom relief... Patients know this and accept it...
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My buddy started on alcohol, went to painkillers then moved to heroin. Said he couldn't explain the rush/feeling you got. Destroyed his life for awhile. Was spending hundreds and hundreds of dollars a day on it as you get a tolerance to that as well and have to take more to feel the same high, etc. Parents put him in a homeless shelter finally to try and get through to him. And yes it is basically escapism.
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If you've been IVed dilaudid or morphine in the hospital you already know what heroin feels like.
It's all the same mechanism of action from vikes up to smack, the route of administration is the real x factor.
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Am I naive to think that people that choose to do heroin are basically looking to "escape" or "check out" temporarily?
I imagined that's why people abuse some drugs, such as heroin.
Well, I did it do see what it felt like, and it felt shit.
As for escaping, I always say reality is a crutch for people who can't handle drugs. ;D
Personally, I try and use drugs to enhance my life not escape from it, I mean it would be pretty silly telling someone that they drink coffee to escape or check out. This is the issue with recreational drugs, so much misinformation and propaganda. The majority of people who use recreational drugs never have a problem with them, hence the reason you never hear about them.
Crazy how people base their view on the worst case scenarios, imagine you did this with other things in your life, like starting a business. if you just formed your view of business on the countless business failures nobody would ever go into business again.
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how in the world is that possible in this day and age?
sad...
US hospitals are ass backwards when it comes to electronic data. Fear is data can be breached. A hospitals worst nightmare is being hacked.
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Personally, I try and use drugs to enhance my life not escape from it, I mean it would be pretty silly telling someone that they drink coffee to escape or check out.
Heroin enhances your life?
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Heroin enhances your life?
It can do? Check out this Joe Rogan podcast with Dr. Carl Hart if you are serious about learning about recreational drugs and not just propaganda. And if you think about it, heroin is just a form of opiate, and opiates are used in a medicinal setting every day across the globe to enhance a patient's life.
And the vast majority of heroin-related deaths, over 70 percent are caused by combining heroin with another sedative, usually alcohol. It's about learning how to use drugs safely, which is thwarted by criminalisation and spreading lies and propaganda about drugs. Just look at all the bullshit beliefs out there regarding steroids and bodybuilding drugs.
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Western medicine is largely symptom relief... Patients know this and accept it...
To a certain extent, western medicine keeps people sick
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Heroin enhances your life?
Considering that it can result in one of the biggest surges of dopamine your body is capable of producing, those few minutes after administration is indeed more euphoric than anything you've ever felt. The key is not pushing it too far to where you make yourself sick.