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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Royalty on March 05, 2016, 08:47:32 AM
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These look pretty solid
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never done it but there are some great ideas on youtube on this subject.
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I built squat stands, a pull sled, and a "rogue" plyo box.
Saw all those pics you posted when I was looking for plans. Pretty cool stuff.
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Good excuse to run the tools, although you'd probably profit a whole $10/hr unless you can scrounge the lumber. But if you're gonna do it, do it nice. Mortise & tenon.
These designs posted need plywood gussets.
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The one and only time I recommend curling in the squat rack.
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They look ok but much prefer steel, Square 50mm steel box section is just as cheap, stronger, less bulky and looks better, probably easier to put together too, a fucking monkey can use a mig welder and can weld it up in palace so no bolted joints.
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Unless you do this type of work, regularly, you're most likely better off taking advantage of Division of Labor and buying it from professional equipment makers.
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;D
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terry todd's wooden power rack. :D
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Unless you do this type of work, regularly, you're most likely better off taking advantage of Division of Labor and buying it from professional equipment makers.
Not to mention this stuff is constantly recycled on craigslist and local sales...
I realize a lot of bodybuilders are poverty kids, but even kids make more than the $3 per hour they will save by putting together a wood weight set...
Why not pour your own concrete weights in plastic buckets while you're at it?
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Not to mention this stuff is constantly recycled on craigslist and local sales...
I realize a lot of bodybuilders are poverty kids, but even kids make more than the $3 per hour they will save by putting together a wood weight set...
Why not pour your own concrete weights in plastic buckets while you're at it?
sure nowadays you can get it all cheap but when i was a kid you never had the money. I wrote this before but i used an air pump and taped it so the air came slower out and i pumped it like a "Bullworker"...
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Not to mention this stuff is constantly recycled on craigslist and local sales...
I realize a lot of bodybuilders are poverty kids, but even kids make more than the $3 per hour they will save by putting together a wood weight set...
Why not pour your own concrete weights in plastic buckets while you're at it?
I don't get this. Even a used cage on CL is about 250-300 bucks, and decent brands are more.
If you can build something that works for about 100 bucks or less, what's the harm?
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Not to mention this stuff is constantly recycled on craigslist and local sales...
I realize a lot of bodybuilders are poverty kids, but even kids make more than the $3 per hour they will save by putting together a wood weight set...
Why not pour your own concrete weights in plastic buckets while you're at it?
I LOL'd.
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I don't get this. Even a used cage on CL is about 250-300 bucks, and decent brands are more.
If you can build something that works for about 100 bucks or less, what's the harm?
A variation of this? :-[
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The one and only time I recommend curling in the squat rack.
;D
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A variation of this? :-[
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Fux tore his quad as he was squatting... don't blame the equipment. Plus Fux didn't bother setting up the safety pins. The safeties would have minimized his injuries.
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Anyone watch the show, "Building Alaska"?
It's a reality show about carpenters / builders who build cabins in remote parts of Alaska.
Now, those guys could build a solid wood squat rack.
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Fux tore his quad as he was squatting... don't blame the equipment. Plus Fux didn't bother setting up the safety pins. The safeties would have minimized his injuries.
He fuxed himself.
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Anyone watch the show, "Building Alaska"?
It's a reality show about carpenters / builders who build cabins in remote parts of Alaska.
Now, those guys could build a solid wood squat rack.
watching a show at the moment about gold diggers in Alaska... a piece of machinery was broken and they welded and got it working again. respect in these conditions. A part for a machine can take weeks.
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A part for a machine can take weeks.
Might take longer. They need to wait for a next season of ice road truckers to deliver the part!
History channel universe.
🙂
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I don't mind a wooden rack, most of the big lifts of the 50's - mid 60's were probably done in them. Guys like Todd, Anderson, and Peoples. I think most lifters have got a bit too safety nazi and girlish about racks, and all the stuff they hang off of them.
That being said, as mentioned, by the time you gather up all the materials needed, you're probably in the range of a decent used steel one. And if you count in labor, you'd at least be in the range of a new Rogue or budget Elitefts one. What made sense decades ago, just doesn't now for most people. China, Craigslist, and Crossfit killed the wooden rack market.
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Might take longer. They need to wait for a next season of ice road truckers to deliver the part!
History channel universe.
🙂
respect to these men :)
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I built a wooden rack in my backyard when I was 15 or 16
It didn't look nearly as good as the ones posted on this thread
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That being said, as mentioned, by the time you gather up all the materials needed, you're probably in the range of a decent used steel one. And if you count in labor, you'd at least be in the range of a new Rogue or budget Elitefts one.
Not even close in price to Rogue or Elite FTS
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Not even close in price to Rogue or Elite FTS
I think parts and labor on a wooden rack (done right with new materials + misc tools) would be close to the base cost of the very basic Elitefts - http://www.elitefts.com/shop/strength-equipment/power-racks/eliteftstmold-school-3x3-power-rack-no-weight-storage.html or Rogue - http://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-re-3 .
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yes I did as a teenager ;D Couldnt afford a real one but it wasn't as fancy as the ones shown here. It held abit over 315 lbs so did the job :)
and for weights I used my dads winterwheels lol
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fucking wood isn't going to last. :-\
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I think parts and labor on a wooden rack (done right with new materials + misc tools) would be close to the base cost of the very basic Elitefts - http://www.elitefts.com/shop/strength-equipment/power-racks/eliteftstmold-school-3x3-power-rack-no-weight-storage.html or Rogue - http://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-re-3 .
The elite FTS rack is you posted is $679
The 4, 4x4 pressure treated 10 foot timbers in this rack are about 10-15 bucks each, max....that's the majority of the wood. Only thing this rack needs is a bar across the front for chins, and maybe some pegs at the bottom if you want to use bands. Price isn't near the Elite/Rogue racks.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=605786.0;attach=672131;image)
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fucking wood isn't going to last. :-\
Of course it is.
My squat stands are going on 5 years....cost 25 bucks to make.
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The elite FTS rack is you posted $675
The 4x4 pressure treated 10 foot timber in this rack are about 15-20 bucks each, max....that's the majority of the wood.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=605786.0;attach=672131;image)
It's all the incidentals though, wood racks are cheap if you've got a shop and lots of misc handy (various bolts, pipes, drill/hole saw bits, tie in plates, etc....). If not you probably run within a couple of hundred dollars of one of the ones I listed if you count labor. At that point ir becomes very shrugable if it's worth it.
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It's all the incidentals though, wood racks are cheap if you've got a shop and lots of misc handy (various bolts, pipes, drill/hole saw bits, tie in plates, etc....). If not you probably run within a couple of hundred dollars of one of the ones I listed if you count labor. At that point ir becomes very shrugable if it's worth it.
Is somebody charging themselves for labor? The whole idea is to build it yourself.
Bolts, pipes, tie ins, are all cheap and can be had at a plumber's supply or home depot.. Dude, it's not even close - i've priced this already when I contemplated builiding one. That rack pictured costs less than 150....full $500 bucks cheaper.
Even if you got charged 50 bucks an hour for labor, it's half the cost.
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Is somebody charging themselves for labor? The whole idea is to build it yourself.
Bolts, pipes, tie ins, are all cheap and can be had at a plumber's supply or home depot.. Dude, it's not even close - i've priced this already when I contemplated builiding one. That rack pictured costs less than 150....full $500 bucks cheaper.
Even if you got charged 50 bucks an hour for labor, it's half the cost.
You're right. I'm flip-flopping on my previous position. It has nothing to do with being good value or being
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Accountancy has no place in a private workshop. It's impossible to reckon the projected profit potential of being able to cut a blind foxtail m&t joint or the value of the experience associated with any other aspect. After all, the guy who built the rack can probably go construct a building to put the rack in. What's that save/worth? Ultimately it's down to whether you want to do it and will enjoy the project.
Now lets have a look at these famous stands and sleds and boxes of yours, young fella.
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A few months ago, Set It Up posted a link to a really cool wooden bench/squat rack combo that he'd built in his basement gym, which I'm very tempted to have a go at when the weather warms up here (too cold in the garage right now which is the only place I can put it). I'm seriously close to that point where I say f@#k the car, it can live outside... never had a home set up before..
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I build serious wood in the morning.
You could squat off of it too.
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I build serious wood in the morning.
You could squat off of it too.
No lie, I woke up yesterday with a pole you could pound nails in. I no-shit used it as a place to hang my towel while I gathered up some clothes.
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Must suck being poor...
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It's all the incidentals though, wood racks are cheap if you've got a shop and lots of misc handy (various bolts, pipes, drill/hole saw bits, tie in plates, etc....). If not you probably run within a couple of hundred dollars of one of the ones I listed if you count labor. At that point ir becomes very shrugable if it's worth it.
Looks like you'd need a Miter Saw for the diagonal cuts on the braces. A decent one costs about $400, and, if you aren't adept with this piece of equipment, you might end the job with fewer fingers from when you started.
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made my present one from an old electricity pole
was exhausted for days afterwards though
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No lie, I woke up yesterday with a pole you could pound nails in. I no-shit used it as a place to hang my towel while I gathered up some clothes.
LOL - puts a whole different picture in my minds eye of this exercise... ;D
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I don't think building your own gym equipment is as hard as it seems.
Take a look at this machine, is made by one single guy.
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Also, Vince B built this.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=394408.0;attach=428409;image)
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Do what this guy does,his squat rack handles 600lbs easy,no drilling of holes,just extra wood screwed onto the frame to hold the bar in the top position.If theres only you using it no need to have multiple holes.
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Of course it is.
My squat stands are going on 5 years....cost 25 bucks to make.
that shit is going to break and land on your head one day. Make a real rack.
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that shit is going to break and land on your head one day. Make a real rack.
It can't. It's a squat stand, not a squat rack and it's solid.
And anyway, I own a full metal cage that I bought. I wasn't going to fucking build a fucking wooden squat rack. Ain't nobody got time for that.
But it still doesn't cost anywhere near a Rogue/Elite FTS piece.
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It can't. It's a squat stand, not a squat rack and it's solid.
And anyway, I own a full metal cage that I bought. I wasn't going to fucking build a fucking wooden squat rack. Ain't nobody got time for that.
But it still doesn't cost anywhere near a Rogue/Elite FTS piece.
so when was the last time you used that wooden piece of shit?
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Looks like you'd need a Miter Saw for the diagonal cuts on the braces. A decent one costs about $400, and, if you aren't adept with this piece of equipment, you might end the job with fewer fingers from when you started.
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Do you really think someone who doesn't do woodwork regularly is gonna make a diagonal cut with a cross cut saw without it looking like shit?
While far from a professional carpenter, I do have some training. If I were to attempt building that rack, I'd probably get it done, eventually, but there would be numerous fuck ups along the way.
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No lie, I woke up yesterday with a pole you could pound nails in. I no-shit used it as a place to hang my towel while I gathered up some clothes.
Good idea bro,I`ll have to steal it! LOL ;D
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why not just build a squat stand and a pullup bar
more and more, i'm starting to wonder what the point of a full "power rack" is for 99% of people, especially "bodybuilders"
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why not just build a squat stand and a pullup bar
more and more, i'm starting to wonder what the point of a full "power rack" is for 99% of people, especially "bodybuilders"
Yeah, something like this seems doable if you're looking for a project:
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so when was the last time you used that wooden piece of shit?
I have a full squat cage, and use the stands for supersets, or to rack the yoke I have for yoke walks. My apologies that it works.
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Don't need much in construction skills, pretty simple building a good solid PR out of basic wood.
4X4 wood will last a very long time (even if left outdoors). Can build it to custom fit your personal needs; like height, width,overhead lifts, squats/DL's, benches, etc. For the pin's I've used cold rolled steel, cut to whatever length. Might need 2 to 4 pins, requiring on the type of workout you intend to do..
I've set the base in cement formed wooden blocks/boxes, about 8 to 9 inches deep, pretty solid. Can buy bags of cement mix (just add water) fairly cheap. Or build the bottom supports like the PR shown on that backyard patio. The cross braces/members, upper and lower, are also easy to set up..
Will need a heavier duty power drill, which you can rent for so many hours or by the day. Which usually includes different drill bits. Need a larger bit for the pin holes. Can us a hand held power saw (cheap), or if you want a great bicep/tricep pump, use a hand wood saw. Also need gussets/angels, preferred screwed in.. nails as a second choice.
Wouldn't cost a lot of bucks at all, depending on where you live and get your materials, rental fees (if needed) ...saying a little above $50, if that. Compared to buying one of line, the shipping may be a quarter to a third the cost of that PR you just bought.
Can set up a PR for dipping, chins, cable work, etc.
Good Luck.
Good Luck.
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I have a full squat cage, and use the stands for supersets, or to rack the yoke I have for yoke walks. My apologies that it works.
no apologies needed. Cant say it lasted 5 years if you haven't be using it.
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no apologies needed. Cant say it lasted 5 years if you haven't be using it.
I use it all the time.
4 x 4 pressure treated wood is strong - it's used to support decks - plus it has alloy caps on the top to hold the weight.
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Do you really think someone who doesn't do woodwork regularly is gonna make a diagonal cut with a cross cut saw without it looking like shit?
While far from a professional carpenter, I do have some training. If I were to attempt building that rack, I'd probably get it done, eventually, but there would be numerous fuck ups along the way.
Nah, you'd do fine. Plenty of good work got done before electricity. Besides, it's good for you. You're gonna learn real quick the importance of a sharp blade, effective workholding, etc, when it's your arm making the cut instead of a motor. Then you graduate to the motor. From what I've seen out there, the opposite of skill is horsepower.
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A basic PR should only take between 4 to 6 steady hours to build. If someone is not familiar with simple tools, which only requires a bit of common sense, than might as well buy a ready made PR...it's your money. If mounting in quick cement forms, that usually sets and is completed in a good 24 hours. Should have the pins cut to size and slide in by than.
It's not like being asked to build a rocket to the moon, pretty basic handy man stuff. All 90 degree angles, nothing has to be a diagonal cut. That's where gussets /support braces come in.
4X4's are a basic support, used in all kinds of building structures. Could also use 4X6's, but than again, what's the point when 4X4's are well able to do the job. And 4X6's are a lot more money.
Good Luck.
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the holes will have to be drilled in a drill press otherwise they will not run straight and level through the timber. otherwise the rest of the job is pretty basic, a cheap mitre box and handsaw will suffice if the person dosent own a powered mitre saw.
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Looks like you'd need a Miter Saw for the diagonal cuts on the braces. A decent one costs about $400, and, if you aren't adept with this piece of equipment, you might end the job with fewer fingers from when you started.
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Yet what equipment do you need to weld one? Miter saw for cutting steel, welding equipment, a cock-ton of drill bits for all the holes... Building a wooden rack can be done with the tools almost every household has.
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Must suck being poor...
Years ago I built one out of hardwood. Cost me twice what a metal rack would have cost. But I actually liked it better, much greater versatility. Want a new pin height? Just grab a drill. Want a band attachment anywhere? Pre-drill holes and screw in some long bolts. And all this drilling can be done with one generic wood bit, instead of needing an oil-cooled bit for drilling steel.
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Posted this a year or two ago but check out these Guys. Fucking Red neck Dudes training in the Back Yard. :)
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Posted this a year or two ago but check out these Guys. Fucking Red neck Dudes training in the Back Yard. :)
That looks solid and well anchored. When he was doing Military Presses with 225, there was a lot of forward force when he put the bar back, and the rack barely budged.
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Can't stand it when guys hang this shit in their shop. It's your work space, you greasy, middle-aged adolescent. Leave the wanking material at home.
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That looks solid and well anchored. When he was doing Military Presses with 225, there was a lot of forward force when he put the bar back, and the rack barely budged.
He has put up some pretty good videos. His Lying extensions or skull crushers are quite impressive. I just like the raw basics workouts and how he built it all :)
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That looks solid and well anchored. When he was doing Military Presses with 225, there was a lot of forward force when he put the bar back, and the rack barely budged.
good equipment but his pickup and set down of the looks back breaking over time
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good equipment but his pickup and set down of the looks back breaking over time
It's all "Young and Dumb" training. Been there. Done that. None of it is good for you in the long run: from the back bending to the knees buckling, to the bar digging into the cervical area.
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That looks solid and well anchored. When he was doing Military Presses with 225, there was a lot of forward force when he put the bar back, and the rack barely budged.
Even though they are labeled as "rednecks", that rig looks well thought-out. The base is poured concrete and the 4 4x4 posts that make up the structural are secured in the concrete. That rig ain't going nowhere.