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Title: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Never1AShow on March 05, 2016, 03:04:08 PM
A guy was doing some fairly heavy deadlifts in the gym today (heavy for my gym is like 455).  Anyway it got me thinking.  I don't think a single person other than me noticed or gave him any props.  Guy had kind of a bulky football player chunky look.  A big guy but not any standout physique wise. 

Would rather look good in a tank top or with my shirt off.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Kwon_2 on March 05, 2016, 03:05:26 PM
A guy was doing some fairly heavy deadlifts in the gym today (heavy for my gym is like 455).  Anyway it got me thinking.  I don't think a single person other than me noticed or gave him any props.  Guy had kind of a bulky football player chunky look.  A big guy but not any standout physique wise. 

Would rather look good in a tank top or with my shirt off.

Pretty sure he is not in Ibiza getting the girls
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: _aj_ on March 05, 2016, 03:13:39 PM
Nope. Nobody gives a fuck, especially chicks. He's probably a fatass PL'er that might as well be invisible to premium ass. Abs, shoulders, arms, traps, pecs.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Zillotch on March 05, 2016, 03:16:35 PM
doing some fairly heavy deadlifts

makes one look like they're shitting their pants like an asshole. not much appeal there. 
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: BB on March 05, 2016, 03:20:16 PM
99% of the time nobody will care about your lifts but you. Not your wife, not your kids, not your friends. Even among strength schmoes, the appreciation is limited. It better be close to record breaking or it's not getting any real attention either.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: TheShape. on March 05, 2016, 03:39:28 PM
I'm a naturally lean guy who has great leverage on the deadlift, my current max is 500 at a body weight of 180 lbs. I put my gym to shame. Sad!
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Never1AShow on March 05, 2016, 03:48:00 PM
99% of the time nobody will care about your lifts but you. Not your wife, not your kids, not your friends. Even among strength schmoes, the appreciation is limited. It better be close to record breaking or it's not getting any real attention either.

Generally, I don't think this is right.  Other guys in the gym who see someone benching 3 plates give some mental props.  Same with squats and 4 plates.  Guys do always compare themselves and are tremendously hierarchical, but deadlift seems to be an outlier.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 05, 2016, 03:48:38 PM
A guy was doing some fairly heavy deadlifts in the gym today (heavy for my gym is like 455).  Anyway it got me thinking.  I don't think a single person other than me noticed or gave him any props.  Guy had kind of a bulky football player chunky look.  A big guy but not any standout physique wise. 

Would rather look good in a tank top or with my shirt off.
455 is not a heavy lift.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: ritch on March 05, 2016, 03:50:35 PM
Could care less. I see all kinds of skinny turds lifting 3 plus plates. It's technique. I keep my energy/focus for horizontal and vertical pulls and variations of grips.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: MAXX on March 05, 2016, 03:57:50 PM
nah wouldn't really care.

not involved with competetive strength sports so why would I. I think this goes for most people
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: chaos on March 05, 2016, 04:41:11 PM
455 is not a heavy lift.
But it's more than you can lift.  :D
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: _aj_ on March 05, 2016, 04:53:44 PM
I'm a naturally lean guy who has great leverage on the deadlift, my current max is 500 at a body weight of 180 lbs. I put my gym to shame. Sad!

Video please.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: ritch on March 05, 2016, 05:12:43 PM
Video please.

Yes...
The vid as my spidey senses are tingling here...
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: SquidVicious on March 05, 2016, 05:58:19 PM
Just walk up to him and ask if you can suck him off in the locker room. Our approval isn't necessary.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: _aj_ on March 05, 2016, 06:00:33 PM
Yes...
The vid as my spidey senses are tingling here...

It shocking how many record holders are Getbiggers.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: cephissus on March 05, 2016, 06:14:27 PM
as you get older, you care less

especially once you realize that size != strength, and notice the laziest guys in the gym often look the best
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 05, 2016, 06:49:47 PM
But it's more than you can lift.  :D
Is it?

How much weight is this and this is not even near my max?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103172.0;attach=113124;image)
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 05, 2016, 06:53:59 PM
But it's more than you can lift.  :D
The other amusing takeaway from this is that I can deadlift more than you and am at a lower bodyweight.   :D
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: _aj_ on March 05, 2016, 06:54:24 PM
Is it?

How much weight is this and this is not even near my max?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103172.0;attach=113124;image)

Pic is from 2005.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: herefortheglitter on March 05, 2016, 07:23:47 PM
I pulled 375 on Friday in a full gym and all the guys got their feelings hurt and pretended they weren't staring.

I like powerlifting so I do watch people who lift heavy.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 05, 2016, 07:25:16 PM
Pic is from 2005.
Why would my strength go down?  ???
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Palumboism on March 05, 2016, 07:29:21 PM
Is it?

How much weight is this and this is not even near my max?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103172.0;attach=113124;image)

Are you claiming to be natural in this picture?
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 05, 2016, 07:34:33 PM
Are you claiming to be natural in this picture?
I don't need to claim.  I am.  Never have used a thing in my life and never will.  I prefer a stringer, more defined look to my muscles than the stupid round bulbous look that roids make.

Plus, the health risks of roids are not worth it my opinion.  I can understand someone who is 50 years or older wanting to get their levels in check, but nobody has a need to do that until they reach that age or older.

I also like the fact that since I have never done or had any interest in roids, I have no conception of what its like and therefore have no reliance on something like that.  Every roider I have ever known, can never stop them once they start.  I am not interested in that Pandora's box.


I have deadlifted 615 lifetime natural.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 05, 2016, 07:36:53 PM
This lifetime natural owns me and everyone on here though:

Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Nick Danger on March 05, 2016, 07:44:54 PM
Nope. Nobody gives a fuck, especially chicks. He's probably a fatass PL'er that might as well be invisible to premium ass. Abs, shoulders, arms, traps, pecs.

Even "premium ass" know when a guy has weak leg development.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Al Doggity on March 05, 2016, 07:53:30 PM
A guy was doing some fairly heavy deadlifts in the gym today (heavy for my gym is like 455).  Anyway it got me thinking.  I don't think a single person other than me noticed or gave him any props.  Guy had kind of a bulky football player chunky look.  A big guy but not any standout physique wise. 

Would rather look good in a tank top or with my shirt off.

Nope. Started a thread on here a while back asking if I was the only one that thought it was a useless exercise. Of course  lemmings defended it, but I don't think a big deadlift is representative of anything other than a big deadlift. The strength doesn't carry over to other exercises even though it is allegedly the granddaddy of all strength movements. It doesn't improve my squat, though an improved squat does improve my deadlift. It doesn't improve my barbell rows, though improved rows raise my deadlift.  More than any other  power exercise, it just seems like if you do it enough you will end up with a decent lift. More than any other exercise, it seems you can do decent numbers on dl without it showing up in your physique.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Never1AShow on March 05, 2016, 08:34:21 PM
455 is not a heavy lift.

It was for a few reps not a single.  This place ain't hardcore.  The have no standing calf machine even.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Never1AShow on March 05, 2016, 08:37:02 PM
Are you claiming to be natural in this picture?

No natural owns a shirt like that.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: rocket on March 05, 2016, 11:25:48 PM
Deadlift is the test of a man and it's no coincidence that the numbers that getbiggers start disputing each other on are not particularly large
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Radical Plato on March 06, 2016, 01:30:52 AM
I pulled 375 on Friday in a full gym and all the guys got their feelings hurt and pretended they weren't staring.

I like powerlifting so I do watch people who lift heavy.
I pulled 420 pounds deadlifting for the first time 3 weeks ago.  My Brother is into powerlifting so we went along to a gym that had a platform, bumper plates the whole bit.  I tried 440 pounds, but just didn't get it past my knees, I was going to try the 440 again sometime this week.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Radical Plato on March 06, 2016, 01:32:13 AM
Nope. Started a thread on here a while back asking if I was the only one that thought it was a useless exercise. Of course  lemmings defended it, but I don't think a big deadlift is representative of anything other than a big deadlift. The strength doesn't carry over to other exercises even though it is allegedly the granddaddy of all strength movements. It doesn't improve my squat, though an improved squat does improve my deadlift. It doesn't improve my barbell rows, though improved rows raise my deadlift.  More than any other  power exercise, it just seems like if you do it enough you will end up with a decent lift. More than any other exercise, it seems you can do decent numbers on dl without it showing up in your physique.
I think it helps build a strong core (core pertaining to the central muscles of the body; lower back, glutes and the abdominal region) is a very important health component, in that it supports the body in almost every movement and position.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Sokolsky on March 06, 2016, 03:14:41 AM
Will always have a look when I see a lot of plates loaded on bar.
But I don't care whether people lift less/more than myself. Though I notice I'm in the head of quite a few at the gym I go too...


Doubt the girls care much for it though.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: bigmc on March 06, 2016, 03:38:03 AM
Is it?

How much weight is this and this is not even near my max?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103172.0;attach=113124;image)

good lift

great thng about natural bb is you retain your youthful look

you look really young there  8)
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 06, 2016, 08:21:42 AM
A 455 lbs deadlift is a lot for the average gym rat. You don't see that everyday in most gyms.  Those that put down the lift as useless is code for my deadlift is terrible.  It's a fundamental lift of strength.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: chaos on March 06, 2016, 08:23:59 AM
The other amusing takeaway from this is that I can deadlift more than you and am at a lower bodyweight.   :D
Cool, then you can post a video showing yourself deadlifting more than me. :)
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: _aj_ on March 06, 2016, 08:29:55 AM
Why would my strength go down?  ???

 ::)

Lets see...
- old age
- stopped training
- shitty diet
- votes for Obama. Twice.
- ran out of time
- would say "kids", but thankfully you've decided to end your gene pool voluntarily.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: johnnynoname on March 06, 2016, 08:34:13 AM
to answer this thread the best way possible I will say that the older and more mature you get the less you give a shit



honestly---I'm at a point where I'm kinda sorta more secure of myself that I don't need the validation of anything weightlifting/physique related



getting older is the ultimate solution to all of this


you just, honestly, don't really care anymore

when you were 5 you cared about how fast you could go on your tricycle
when you were 8 you probably could still ride a tricycle but did you really want to?
when your 12----"You want me to ride a tricycle?!...the fuck is wrong with you?!"

...i had a bit of a potty mouth when I was 12....i went to catholic school
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on March 06, 2016, 08:42:59 AM
Pulling heavy weight is very impressive and I respect guys who do it, but I never incorporated deadlifting in my workouts, mainly because I could never figure out where to put them in my workout schedule.  My main goals (at 50 years old) are muscle size and keeping BF down as much as possible.  Lifting very heavy weights is not conducive to fully functional joints.  Keep on living and training hard... you'll see.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: chaos on March 06, 2016, 08:44:59 AM

...i had a bit of a potty mouth when I was 12....i went to catholic school
I see a priest/port-a-potty joke in there somewhere.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: johnnynoname on March 06, 2016, 08:47:03 AM
I see a priest/port-a-potty joke in there somewhere.


I'm LEGIT lol'ing that you posted that and that I didn't post something about how I just set myself up for some sort of "priest using my mouth/face as a port-o-potty" commnet

Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on March 06, 2016, 08:47:20 AM
A guy was doing some fairly heavy deadlifts in the gym today (heavy for my gym is like 455).  Anyway it got me thinking.  I don't think a single person other than me noticed or gave him any props.  Guy had kind of a bulky football player chunky look.  A big guy but not any standout physique wise. 

Would rather look good in a tank top or with my shirt off.

No one give's a rat ass about what I do in the gym. What matters to me is MY workouts, so long as no one is acting like a full blown idiot around me, which has hardly ever happened.

You give a shit about what this guy's doing? What if deadlifts make him stronger and gave him the muscle he has?

With that aside, I shit canned regular deadlifts a year ago as I do not give a rat's ass about powerlifting and lift for more muscle, which does take getting stronger in the lifts one does, be it whatever damn lifts they are.

Stiff-legged deadlifts or trap bar deadlifts are far better muscle builders than regular deads for most people. Same goes  for dumbbell benches, guillotine presses, and dips rather than bench presses for many people.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: johnnynoname on March 06, 2016, 08:53:06 AM
No one give's a rat ass about what I do in the gym.

I'll take this quote a step further...

no one gives a shit about what any of us do......I think a lot of people know this but I will resound it nonetheless

we are all very "why is everyone looking at me?" during certain years of your life

nobody is looking at you....they are too taken with there own shit

now---If you fall or trip then yes people will see that and laugh at you because falling in public is hilarious

other than that though nobody should ever be self conscious about anything because people don't care about other people
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: ritch on March 06, 2016, 09:06:38 AM
I'll take this quote a step further...

no one gives a shit about what any of us do......I think a lot of people know this but I will resound it nonetheless

we are all very "why is everyone looking at me?" during certain years of your life

nobody is looking at you....they are too taken with there own shit

now---If you fall or trip then yes people will see that and laugh at you because falling in public is hilarious

other than that though nobody should ever be self conscious about anything because people don't care about other people

You make a lot of good points here.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Al Doggity on March 06, 2016, 09:08:24 AM
I think it helps build a strong core (core pertaining to the central muscles of the body; lower back, glutes and the abdominal region) is a very important health component, in that it supports the body in almost every movement and position.

Like I said in my previous post, I've heard that dl supposedly has so many benefits which is why I stuck it out til at least 5 plates. I just don't see much evidence of that. 90% of the time when I see a guy who benches regularly and has a big bench, he has a good chest. 90% of the time, a guy who chins regularly and can do 15+ reps has a good taper. Having a big deadlift does not indicate  anything. It doesn't suggest you are strong in other exercises- even back or leg exercises. You can be a dedicated deadlifter and still have a totally shitty body.  It might be an exaggeration to say there are no benefits, but for me, when I made deadlifting a regular part of my routine, it seemed like I would go backwards if I focused on deadlifts. I got so much wider and thicker and stronger and a more dramatic taper with barbell rows. If I skipped rows for two sessions my dl and row would both go down. If I skipped dls but did rows, my dl would at least be stable and rows would still increase.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on March 06, 2016, 09:11:28 AM
Not to mention that deadlifting makes me feel like shit for days after.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: wes on March 06, 2016, 09:13:48 AM
I only care if it`s legit regardless of poundage.


Too many assholes have`nt a fucking clue how to pull.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 06, 2016, 09:17:02 AM
::)

Lets see...
- old age
- stopped training
- shitty diet
- votes for Obama. Twice.
- ran out of time
- would say "kids", but thankfully you've decided to end your gene pool voluntarily.
The only thing on that list that is true is that I voted for Obama twice.

I deadlifted last night actually.  My workout was 475-10  500-8  525-6  
Just a basic workout for this strength program I am doing.  

Bodyweight right now is 177.  

And I have never went longer than a week without working out which I only do maybe once a year if that.  
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 06, 2016, 09:22:03 AM
For me deadlift is pretty essential.  When I stop doing it, my squat suffers a little bit and my abs become less tight and worked.  I also get a great upper back pump after deadlifts.

I think it depends on your structure, how well your muscles engage while doing the lift and if you are actually good at it.

Its completely a waste of time to do lifts that you may not be good at.  For me, one of those lifts is seated dumbbell shoulder press.  That is a totally useless exercise for me as its more of a balancing act due to my extremely long forearms.  I notice midget armed guys like it because its not hard for them to balance the weight and they don't have too far to travel and their triceps do a lot of the work.  My forearm length prevents the triceps engaging until late in the lift making it difficult to do and thus pointless.

A better alternative for me is a standing press or push press of some sort.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 06, 2016, 09:24:05 AM
Like I said in my previous post, I've heard that dl supposedly has so many benefits which is why I stuck it out til at least 5 plates. I just don't see much evidence of that. 90% of the time when I see a guy who benches regularly and has a big bench, he has a good chest. 90% of the time, a guy who chins regularly and can do 15+ reps has a good taper. Having a big deadlift does not indicate  anything. It doesn't suggest you are strong in other exercises- even back or leg exercises. You can be a dedicated deadlifter and still have a totally shitty body.  It might be an exaggeration to say there are no benefits, but for me, when I made deadlifting a regular part of my routine, it seemed like I would go backwards if I focused on deadlifts. I got so much wider and thicker and stronger and a more dramatic taper with barbell rows. If I skipped rows for two sessions my dl and row would both go down. If I skipped dls but did rows, my dl would at least be stable and rows would still increase.
I disagree.  For me at least, my squat goes down the less I deadlift and goes up a lot more when I start deadlifting regularly.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Fortress on March 06, 2016, 09:55:11 AM
455 is not a heavy lift.

Considering that the overwhelming majority of gym goers (yes, gym goers, not the average man on the street) the world over cannot even come close to pulling such a poundage off the floor, yes, 455 is a heavy lift.

Pull your head out of your ass.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 06, 2016, 10:01:11 AM
Considering that the overwhelming majority of gym goers (yes, gym goers, not the average man on the street) the world over cannot even come close to pulling such a poundage off the floor, yes, 455 is a heavy lift.

Pull your head out of your ass.
Guess that makes me super special then.  ::)
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on March 06, 2016, 10:04:42 AM
Nope. Started a thread on here a while back asking if I was the only one that thought it was a useless exercise. Of course  lemmings defended it, but I don't think a big deadlift is representative of anything other than a big deadlift. The strength doesn't carry over to other exercises even though it is allegedly the granddaddy of all strength movements. It doesn't improve my squat, though an improved squat does improve my deadlift. It doesn't improve my barbell rows, though improved rows raise my deadlift.  More than any other  power exercise, it just seems like if you do it enough you will end up with a decent lift. More than any other exercise, it seems you can do decent numbers on dl without it showing up in your physique.
i think the value of the deadlift is the ability for people to know how to pick something up without getting hurt

Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Tedim on March 06, 2016, 10:05:46 AM
I dead 135 7 sets 10-15 reps helps my squats......nm.   I do them between squat sets, also helps with lower back soreness

Any heavier feels awkward, I do it on a 8" platform so I hyperextend downwards

Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on March 06, 2016, 10:06:26 AM
To you folks that deadlift heavy no one wants to hear you fucking screaming and slamming the weights
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: ritch on March 06, 2016, 10:10:04 AM
i think the value of the deadlift is the ability for people to know how to pick something up without getting hurt



So who picks up anything over 100-200lbs anyway? So a 225 deadlift should do it for life health.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Fortress on March 06, 2016, 10:12:46 AM
Too many assholes have`nt a fucking clue how to pull.

You "have'nt" a clue how to spell haven't.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Fortress on March 06, 2016, 10:13:40 AM
I don't care whether people lift less/more than myself. Though I notice I'm in the head of quite a few at the gym I go too.

To, too and two.

Look into it.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 06, 2016, 10:14:35 AM
To you folks that deadlift heavy no one wants to hear you fucking screaming and slamming the weights
I lift at home so it doesn't matter, however, I pretend there is a glass panel under the weights and "touch glass" whenever I deadlift instead of shattering it.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Fortress on March 06, 2016, 10:15:36 AM
... when your 12----"You want me to ride a tricycle?!...the fuck is wrong with you?!"

You and you are (you're).

Look into it.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Fortress on March 06, 2016, 10:18:30 AM
Guess that makes me super special then.  ::)

The numbers you post INDEED makes you "super special".

You're a wicked strong guy.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: SuperTed on March 06, 2016, 10:25:42 AM
I go to a commercial gym and there aren't many guys who deadlift there. The ones that do, tend to work with around 135lbs to 315lbs.
Depending on the individuals size, 400lbs and over usually equals a respectable deadlift IMO. It may not be much in powerlifting terms, but the vast majority of gym goers couldn't manage it.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 06, 2016, 10:28:15 AM
The numbers you post INDEED makes you "super special".

You're a wicked strong guy.
But then you see someone like that Johnny Candito and you realize, "There is more work to be done!"

Kid is a natural though and has everything down perfect for that lift.  Very impressive.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Zillotch on March 06, 2016, 10:29:05 AM
we are all very "why is everyone looking at me?" during certain years of your life

nobody is looking at you....they are too taken with there own shit

Everyone is looking - people stare, its human nature.

Attractive human beings are the most interesting visual targets on earth.

(http://www.mrwallpaper.com/wallpapers/beautiful-woman-hd.jpg)
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: jon cole on March 06, 2016, 10:30:32 AM
I train in a commercial gym near Paris, full of arab and hebrew. Most of them playing gangsta style.
Some of them are high level motormouth. They also pretend to be hardcore, like benching 225 for 2 reps.

Last time the gym was full of them. I deadlifted 350lbs for 15 reps like nothing, with dead stop at every rep. That's far away from my best but the gym stayed quiet for at least 10 minute after that.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 06, 2016, 10:30:51 AM
"Gym" Thresholds seem to be

Deadlift-anything over 400 lbs.

Squat-anything over 315 ATG proper form

Bench-315 or over


I would say this is about right and if a lifetime natural can do those lifts, they are "elite" in some respects.  I rarely even see roiders doing any of those "basic" poundages.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Simple Simon on March 06, 2016, 10:42:28 AM
I lift at home so it doesn't matter, however, I pretend there is a glass panel under the weights and "touch glass" whenever I deadlift instead of shattering it.

I have known people "touch cloth" when deadlifting, never glass.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Zillotch on March 06, 2016, 11:03:39 AM
Squat-anything over 315 ATG proper form

Bench-315 or over


I would say this is about right and if a lifetime natural can do those lifts, they are "elite" in some respects.  I rarely even see roiders doing any of those "basic" poundages.

Any 'average' man could work up to those numbers in a reasonable amount of time without steroids. Not 'elite' at all.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 06, 2016, 11:14:00 AM
Any 'average' man could work up to those numbers in a reasonable amount of time without steroids. Not 'elite' at all.
::)

315 Bench Press as a lifetime natural is very rare.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Yamcha on March 06, 2016, 11:17:23 AM
A full ROM bench press @ 315 is actually rare for the natural lifter, especially ones that aren't obese.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 06, 2016, 11:21:18 AM
After more than 20 years of hard deadlifting it still excites me. No one else cares but I feel great if I manage to add 5 more pounds to my max after all this time. Tells me I'm not regressing physically at least. Unfortunately gains can take a year or two to manifest at this point :D
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Zillotch on March 06, 2016, 11:27:49 AM
A full ROM bench press @ 315 is actually rare for the natural lifter, especially ones that aren't obese.

315 Bench Press as a lifetime natural is very rare.

Any healthy, structurally sound man could work up to a 315 bench if he so desired.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Never1AShow on March 06, 2016, 11:32:32 AM
I'm sure no one cares, but the title was supposed to be do you care at all about a big DEADLIFTER in your gym, not a deadlifted.  I saw it almost immediately and was going to change it, but the current title has much more meathead factor to it so I'm keeping it that way.

Also, as far as not "knowing how to pull," what's to know, pick the damn bar up and set it back down.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 06, 2016, 11:35:53 AM
A full ROM bench press @ 315 is actually rare for the natural lifter, especially ones that aren't obese.
Exactly.  Its incredibly rare for a non-obese lifetime natural to bench 315 correctly.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: mr.turbo on March 06, 2016, 11:58:38 AM
Nope. Started a thread on here a while back asking if I was the only one that thought it was a useless exercise. Of course  lemmings defended it, but I don't think a big deadlift is representative of anything other than a big deadlift. The strength doesn't carry over to other exercises even though it is allegedly the granddaddy of all strength movements. It doesn't improve my squat, though an improved squat does improve my deadlift. It doesn't improve my barbell rows, though improved rows raise my deadlift.  More than any other  power exercise, it just seems like if you do it enough you will end up with a decent lift. More than any other exercise, it seems you can do decent numbers on dl without it showing up in your physique.

if you do the deadlift last it's not going to go anywhere because you're already exhausted. Sorry you don't have the heart of a champion. best of luck with your training.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 06, 2016, 12:00:11 PM


Also, as far as not "knowing how to pull," what's to know, pick the damn bar up and set it back down.

The main "problem" guys have is hitching when it gets heavy and it irritates me when I see it. I did it when I first started out but now I can't lift more weight by hitching.
Lots of strongmen hitch as there is no rule against it there but it doesn't help my poundages anymore.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Simple Simon on March 06, 2016, 12:35:51 PM
I occasionally watch people lifting really heavy just to chuckle if they blow a disc.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: chaos on March 06, 2016, 12:38:24 PM
The numbers you post INDEED makes you "super special".

You're a wicked strong guy.
Apparently TA is a great deadlifter but too dumb to figure out how to record himself and would rather post videos of other peoples lift.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Grape Ape on March 06, 2016, 12:53:35 PM
Any healthy, structurally sound man could work up to a 315 bench if he so desired.

Don't think so.  You'd see a lot more of it if so.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Simple Simon on March 06, 2016, 12:56:24 PM
Don't think so.  You'd see a lot more of it if so.
Most people couldnt give a fuck, thats why you dont see more of it.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Yamcha on March 06, 2016, 12:58:32 PM
Man could live on the moon, if we so desired...
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Grape Ape on March 06, 2016, 01:10:48 PM
Most people couldnt give a fuck, thats why you dont see more of it.

Depends on the gym.   I lifted at Golds, Somerville, Ma for a few years, which was loaded with meathead lifting types, and would occasionally have some pros stop in to train (DeMayo), etc.....  Even there I didn't see what appeared to be too many natty 315lb bench presses.

Either way, most who start lifting and stick with it want to get stronger, especially in the early years.  So I don't think it's not wanting to, I think it's because they can't.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 06, 2016, 01:14:11 PM
Apparently TA is a great deadlifter but too dumb to figure out how to record himself and would rather post videos of other peoples lift.
No I just don't give a fuck if you believe me or not.  I am fine with me being the only one knowing that I deadlift more than you.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: chaos on March 06, 2016, 01:50:22 PM
No I just don't give a fuck if you believe me or not.  I am fine with me being the only one knowing that I deadlift more than you.
But you don't  ???
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 06, 2016, 01:56:59 PM
But you don't  ???
How much do you deadlift?
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Simple Simon on March 06, 2016, 02:37:12 PM
How much do you deadlift?
I can shift a large statue from its plinth and carry it along the hall to a more prominent position to impress visitors to my home.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 06, 2016, 02:40:35 PM
I can shift a large statue from its plinth and carry it along the hall to a more prominent position to impress visitors to my home.
Careful if its marble.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Simple Simon on March 06, 2016, 02:44:21 PM
Careful if its marble.
(https://cdn.superstock.com/4176/Thumb/4176-53951.jpg)
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: chaos on March 06, 2016, 02:45:15 PM
How much do you deadlift?
More than you
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 06, 2016, 02:45:43 PM
(https://cdn.superstock.com/4176/Thumb/4176-53951.jpg)
Awful to break mom's favorite part.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Tedim on March 06, 2016, 02:50:49 PM
(https://cdn.superstock.com/4176/Thumb/4176-53951.jpg)

Looks like someone's on test...
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: cephissus on March 06, 2016, 05:23:15 PM
good posts by adonis, jnn, al doggity itt
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: wes on March 06, 2016, 05:27:55 PM
I'm sure no one cares, but the title was supposed to be do you care at all about a big DEADLIFTER in your gym, not a deadlifted.  I saw it almost immediately and was going to change it, but the current title has much more meathead factor to it so I'm keeping it that way.

Also, as far as not "knowing how to pull," what's to know, pick the damn bar up and set it back down.
Lots of form involved in deadlifting correctly my friend.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: BIG ACH on March 06, 2016, 10:30:14 PM
Pic is from 2005.

So what?  The fact  is that he did it and much more.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Radical Plato on March 06, 2016, 10:33:18 PM
Lots of form involved in deadlifting correctly my friend.
Which usually degenerates quickly as the weight gets heavy.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: flinstones1 on March 07, 2016, 12:19:05 AM
Not to mention that deadlifting makes me feel like shit for days after.

Can take the CNS up  to 14 days to recover from a heavy deadlift session.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Papper on March 07, 2016, 01:44:49 AM
Not in the slightest.

Sometimes my friends start talking about numbers and lifts and I just zone out. I only care about the look.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Radical Plato on March 07, 2016, 06:06:52 AM
Not in the slightest.

Sometimes my friends start talking about numbers and lifts and I just zone out. I only care about the look.
OUTED !!!
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: falco on March 07, 2016, 08:32:25 AM
    I stopped caring about deadlifts after my two herniated cervical discs. I can only tell youngsters to avoid them or at least use very moderate weights, just to get a pump.
    But i do give props to the few heavy lifters.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Fortress on March 07, 2016, 09:04:38 AM
Not in the slightest.

Sometimes my friends start talking about numbers and lifts and I just zone out. I only care about the look.

EPIC OUTING!
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Griffith on March 07, 2016, 09:19:56 AM
I do not care at all.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Papper on March 07, 2016, 09:28:48 AM
OUTED !!!

Like you don't observe other physiques

Everyone posting on this forum is outed by default
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 07, 2016, 09:30:44 AM
Sounds like most here are made out of a bunch of spare parts.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: wes on March 07, 2016, 09:53:39 AM
Which usually degenerates quickly as the weight gets heavy.
That`s the stupidity of he lifter.

Ever hear of progressive resistance?
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Fortress on March 07, 2016, 10:20:43 AM
That`s the stupidity of he lifter.

Ever hear of progressive resistance?

To a point. Every freak record-breaking pull is performed with a style far from what's deemed "correct".

At a certain poundage, pristine technique will deteriorate into a physical exertion of absolute will and physical toughness. The latter will determine whether the former yields injury or arms raised in triumph.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on March 07, 2016, 11:24:37 AM
To a point. Every freak record-breaking pull is performed with a style far from what's deemed "correct".

At a certain poundage, pristine technique will deteriorate into a physical exertion of absolute will and physical toughness. The latter will determine whether the former yields injury or arms raised in triumph.

Fortress, what do you think of Janae/Matt Kroc claiming in an interview on T-mag today that he qualified for the Arnold natural, with a bench in the 500's, if I recall correctly, and a bodyweight of 260-something at 5'9" (and not fat at that)?
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Radical Plato on March 07, 2016, 01:50:47 PM
That`s the stupidity of he lifter.

Ever hear of progressive resistance?
You are thinking like a bodybuilder.  Powerlifters are after finding their true 1rm.  Don't get me wrong, form is very important, but it will always degrade during a 1rm, that why the better your form at lower weights, the less form you lose when performing a 1rm.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Never1AShow on March 07, 2016, 04:24:36 PM
What about "hitching"?  What the hell is that?
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Radical Plato on March 07, 2016, 05:28:52 PM
Pulled 440 pounds this morning. No wraps, no belt, no chalk.  Nothing flash but good for an old man.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: chaos on March 07, 2016, 05:31:55 PM
Pulled 440 pounds this morning. No wraps, no belt, no chalk.  Nothing flash but good for an old man.
How many times?
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Garbage Man on March 07, 2016, 05:33:42 PM
No. And I don't care about grammar in thread titles.

So it's all cool.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on March 07, 2016, 05:36:31 PM
    I stopped caring about deadlifts after my two herniated cervical discs. I can only tell youngsters to avoid them or at least use very moderate weights, just to get a pump.
    But i do give props to the few heavy lifters.

You didn't hurt your back deadlifting, did you?
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on March 07, 2016, 05:44:25 PM
New guys are in awe when you lift big but guys there years are used to it, we have 95% guys who don't deadlift over maybe 160kg and a few strong strong fuckers
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Radical Plato on March 07, 2016, 06:12:36 PM
How many times?
Bastard! Just the once.  I did film it, won't post it here, but I had to do it twice because the guy filming didn't actually hit record the first time I pulled it.  This is only my second time trying a 1rm.  First time I pulled a 190kg.  I have never trained for strength before so I am happy enough with that.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: drkaje on March 08, 2016, 05:06:05 AM
I see a few guys going above 315 DL. I have a lot of work to do on form but that's not a lot of weight.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: chaos on March 08, 2016, 08:17:10 AM
Bastard! Just the once.  I did film it, won't post it here, but I had to do it twice because the guy filming didn't actually hit record the first time I pulled it.  This is only my second time trying a 1rm.  First time I pulled a 190kg.  I have never trained for strength before so I am happy enough with that.
Post it, pussy.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: falco on March 08, 2016, 08:49:19 AM
Sounds like most here are made out of a bunch of spare parts.

That's one of the problems with being caucasians.

Blacks don't crack.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: DanM on March 08, 2016, 09:14:33 AM
Big deadlifts generally don't get the same recognition as squats and benches mainly because most can't relate to them like they can with the other two given their 225 benches and 315 half squats.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Fortress on March 08, 2016, 10:24:43 AM
Fortress, what do you think of Janae/Matt Kroc claiming in an interview on T-mag today that he qualified for the Arnold natural, with a bench in the 500's, if I recall correctly, and a bodyweight of 260-something at 5'9" (and not fat at that)?

Total and unhinged horseshit.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Spike on March 08, 2016, 10:59:34 AM
squats = under the bar

bench = UNDEr the bar

Deads = just pulling shit off the floor


when youre under the bar it takes alot more, plus you have to keep it in your routine to be able to squat or bench alot and it shows usually, you have a big chest or shapely legs - but a heavy dead? i see rednecks in Hickory pull 4 plates and just slam it back on the ground as hard as they can -- with bench or squat you cant just totally disreguard the eccentric movement or you pay

why deads are halfass and not admired but most - bench/squats = white collar

deads= blue collar/';redneck lift (but i do them alot now and like them)
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: Radical Plato on March 08, 2016, 01:19:05 PM
Post it, pussy.
No Thanks, Happy to be flamed on and called a pussy.  I save it for my social media pages, mainly my brother who I have a bit of a rivalry with, he is six years older than me but still lifting.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: mr.turbo on March 08, 2016, 02:57:08 PM
squats = under the bar

bench = UNDEr the bar

Deads = just pulling shit off the floor


when youre under the bar it takes alot more, plus you have to keep it in your routine to be able to squat or bench alot and it shows usually, you have a big chest or shapely legs - but a heavy dead? i see rednecks in Hickory pull 4 plates and just slam it back on the ground as hard as they can -- with bench or squat you cant just totally disreguard the eccentric movement or you pay

why deads are halfass and not admired but most - bench/squats = white collar

deads= blue collar/';redneck lift (but i do them alot now and like them)

lol highly insightful post

have to agree deads are definitely a "blue collar" lift which is why the elitist Al Doggity has abandoned them.
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: chaos on March 08, 2016, 05:48:58 PM
No Thanks, Happy to be flamed on and called a pussy.  I save it for my social media pages, mainly my brother who I have a bit of a rivalry with, he is six years older than me but still lifting.
PM it to me
Title: Re: Do you care at all about a big deadlifted in your gym?
Post by: drkaje on March 09, 2016, 04:40:16 AM
I feel better when regularly deadlifting. It doesn't have to be heavy weight but there's a noticeable difference in my mood, horniness, and ability to tolerate bullshit.