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God....delusion....bronz e age....goatherders.....m yth book.....why is it.......atheists are smart......doesn't exist......flying spaghetti monster......other cliches.....bibliotard.. ....theists are dumb......other cliches.......more words about religion.......where you were born......this is what Christians do........sky daddy...........other cliches.........for the weak minded!!
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Trolling much?
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tl/dr
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needs more copy/paste
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"More post editing/deleting per the norm....see this is what Christians do......"
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will keep this thread alive anytime I want to rant about religion and anything else you mentioned up there
jj believes his more than a 6
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[random meme hit and run]
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http://www.alternet.org/belief/6-ways-religion-does-more-bad-good (http://www.alternet.org/belief/6-ways-religion-does-more-bad-good)
6 Ways Religion Does More Bad Than Good
What if harming society is part of religion’s survival strategy?
By Valerie Tarico / AlterNet November 12, 2014
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Most British people think religion causes more harm than good according to a survey commissioned by the Huffington Post. Surprisingly, even among those who describe themselves as “very religious” 20 percent say that religion is harmful to society. For that we can probably thank the internet, which broadcasts everything from Isis beheadings, to stories about Catholic hospitals denying care to miscarrying women, to lists of wild and weird religious beliefs, to articles about psychological harms from Bible-believing Christianity.
In 2010, sociologist Phil Zuckerman published Society Without God: What the Least Religious Nations Can Tell Us About Contentment.Zuckerman lined up evidence that the least religious societies also tend to be the most peaceful, prosperous and equitable, with public policies that help people to flourish while decreasing both desperation and economic gluttony.
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We can debate whether prosperity and peace lead people to be less religious or vice versa. Indeed evidence supports the view that religion thrives on existential anxiety. But even if this is the case, there’s good reason to suspect that the connection between religion and malfunctioning societies goes both ways. Here are six ways religions make peaceful prosperity harder to achieve.
1. Religion promotes tribalism.Infidel, heathen, heretic. Religion divides insiders from outsiders. Rather than assuming good intentions, adherents often are taught to treat outsiders with suspicion. “Be ye not unequally yoked with unbelievers,” says the Christian Bible. “They wish that you disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them,” says the Koran (Sura 4:91).
At best, teachings like these discourage or even forbid the kinds of friendship and intermarriage that help clans and tribes become part of a larger whole. At worst, outsiders are seen as enemies of God and goodness, potential agents of Satan, lacking in morality and not to be trusted. Believers might huddle together, anticipating martyrdom. When simmering tensions erupt, societies fracture along sectarian fault lines.
2. Religion anchors believers to the Iron Age. Concubines, magical incantations, chosen people, stonings....The Iron Age was a time of rampant superstition, ignorance, inequality, racism, misogyny, and violence. Slavery had God’s sanction. Women and children were literally possessions of men. Warlords practiced scorched-earth warfare. Desperate people sacrificed living animals, agricultural products and enemy soldiers as burnt offerings intended to appease dangerous gods.
Sacred texts including the Bible, Torah and Koran all preserve and protect fragments of Iron Age culture, putting a god’s name and endorsement on some of the very worst human impulses. Any believer looking to excuse his own temper, sense of superiority, warmongering, bigotry, or planetary destruction can find validation in writings that claim to be authored by God.
Today, humanity’s moral consciousness is evolving, grounded in an ever deeper and broader understanding of the Golden Rule. But many conservative believers can’t move forward. They are anchored to the Iron Age. This pits them against change in a never-ending battle that consumes public energy and slows creative problem solving.
3. Religion makes a virtue out of faith.Trust and obey for there’s no other way to be happy in Jesus.So sing children in Sunday schools across America. The Lord works in mysterious ways,pastors tell believers who have been shaken by horrors like brain cancer or a tsunami. Faith is a virtue.
As science eats away at territory once held by religion, traditional religious beliefs require greater and greater mental defenses against threatening information. To stay strong, religion trains believers to practice self-deception, shut out contradictory evidence, and trust authorities rather than their own capacity to think. This approach seeps into other parts of life. Government, in particular, becomes a fight between competing ideologies rather than a quest to figure out practical, evidence-based solutions that promote wellbeing.
4.Religion diverts generous impulses and good intentions.Feeling sad about Haiti? Give to our mega-church. Crass financial appeals during times of crisis thankfully are not the norm, but religion does routinely redirect generosity in order to perpetuate religion itself. Generous people are encouraged to give till it hurts to promote the church itself rather than the general welfare. Each year, thousands of missionaries throw themselves into the hard work of saving souls rather than saving lives or saving our planetary life support system. Their work, tax free, gobbles up financial and human capital.
Besides exploiting positive moral energy like kindness or generosity, religion often redirects moral disgust and indignation, attaching these emotions to arbitrary religious rules rather than questions of real harm. Orthodox Jews spend money on wigs for women and double dishwashers. Evangelical parents, forced to choose between righteousness and love, kick queer teens out onto the street. Catholic bishops impose righteous rules on operating rooms.
5. Religion teaches helplessness. Que sera, sera—what will be will be. Let go and let God.We’ve all heard these phrases, but sometimes we don’t recognize the deep relationship between religiosity and resignation. In the most conservative sects of Judaism, Christianity and Islam, women are seen as more virtuous if they let God manage their family planning. Droughts, poverty and cancer get attributed to the will of God rather than bad decisions or bad systems; believers wait for God to solve problems they could solve themselves.
This attitude harms society at large as well as individuals. When today’s largest religions came into existence, ordinary people had little power to change social structures either through technological innovation or advocacy. Living well and doing good were largely personal matters. When this mentality persists, religion inspires personal piety without social responsibility. Structural problems can be ignored as long as the believer is kind to friends and family and generous to the tribal community of believers.
6. Religions seek power.Think corporate personhood. Religions are man-made institutions, just like for-profit corporations are. And like any corporation, to survive and grow a religion must find a way to build power and wealth and compete for market share. Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity—any large enduring religious institution is as expert at this as Coca-Cola or Chevron. And just like for-profit behemoths, they are willing to wield their power and wealth in the service of self-perpetuation, even it harms society at large.
In fact, unbeknown to religious practitioners, harming society may actually be part of religion’s survival strategy. In the words of sociologist Phil Zuckerman and researcher Gregory Paul, “Not a single advanced democracy that enjoys benign, progressive socio-economic conditions retains a high level of popular religiosity.” When people feel prosperous and secure, the hold of religion weakens.
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random religion meme
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"AHAHAHAHAHA!!! Oh yeah, God! ::) "
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"words....words.....delus ionite!!"
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This religious trolling stuff is so easy to do.....technically google does it all for you.
Ok I'm done LOL.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=605923.0;attach=672420;image)
Stand down lads, Chris ODowd has spoken.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=605923.0;attach=672420;image)
Stand down lads, Chris ODowd has spoken.
Have you read the article that says that by 2033 the Church of England will be all but extinct?
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Don't worry, MOS. You'll get the last laugh when Jesus magically reassembles your dead body and transports you to an alternate universe, where he will timidly approach you to thank you for all your years of obsequious praise, then cradle you like a giant adult baby and allow you to worship him for all eternity as you both look down on us all burning in hell.
When I enter God's kingdom in eternity I won't ever think about my former life again, but I will get to be with my Lord and Savior!
Hopefully many of you will be there also.....just not up to me though.
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Have you read the article that says that by 2033 the Church of England will be all but extinct?
and by 2033 racism will be acceptable, people are getting sick and tired of what race they are forced to like by the politically correct brigade.
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Don't worry, MOS. You'll get the last laugh when Jesus magically reassembles your dead body and transports you to an alternate universe, where he will timidly approach you to thank you for all your years of obsequious praise, then cradle you like a giant adult baby and allow you to worship him for all eternity as you both look down on us all burning in hell.
Lol!!!
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and by 2033 racism will be acceptable, people are getting sick and tired of what race they are forced to like by the politically correct brigade.
I think the opposite is more likely to happen, a decline in religion will cause a decline in racism.
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Man of Slag on a roll today.
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Lol!!!
Nonbelievers think that distorted statements like this are insulting to me. Not even close. If it gives y'all a laugh then have it at.
Religious trolling is super easy to partake in.....doesn't even have to make sense or comport with the actuality of the theology being mocked.
Just sling cliches together like I did in the first post and voila.....you made a religious funny for others to bandwagon with!
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I think the opposite is more likely to happen, a decline in religion will cause a decline in racism.
Here's your random religious study on said topic:
Or here you go.....bibliotards are also racists:
http://mic.com/articles/29397/religious-people-tend-to-be-more-racist-study-finds#.7wb9HbwkA (http://mic.com/articles/29397/religious-people-tend-to-be-more-racist-study-finds#.7wb9HbwkA)
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Don't worry, MOS. You'll get the last laugh when Jesus magically reassembles your dead body and transports you to an alternate universe, where he will timidly approach you to thank you for all your years of obsequious praise, then cradle you like a giant adult baby and allow you to worship him for all eternity as you both look down on us all burning in hell.
These bodies don't get reassembled noob.
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Here's your random religious study on said topic:
Thanks, I actually had in mind another study that was quoted.
Looks like there's more than one!
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There will be less racism because the world will be filled with mudpuppies, spawn of the ever-growing population of Mudsharks
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Thanks, I actually had in mind another study that was quoted.
Looks like there's more than one!
POST IT UP BROSEFF!!
Here you go....a bunch of religious studies concerning why "religion bad":
Or religion and sexism:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4045317/ (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4045317/)
Or religion and obesity:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3358928/ (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3358928/)
Or religion and depression:
http://www.alternet.org/are-religious-people-more-depressed (http://www.alternet.org/are-religious-people-more-depressed)
Or religion and poverty:
http://thehumanist.com/news/national/why-are-the-poor-more-religious (http://thehumanist.com/news/national/why-are-the-poor-more-religious)
Google has a link to all sorts of highly scientific, non-biased studies about the folly of religion! Name your negative and religion is the cause!!
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[30 seconds random youtube searching]
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Meltdown.
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Meltdown.
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AHAHAHAHAHA!!! I was literally 44 seconds away from posting a different meltdown image!
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this stuff is so predictable and repetitive and EASY.
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[repeat zombie meme]
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[classic dogma meme]
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[random hit and run epicurus quote]
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"Hey, try reading this for once."
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LOL at this thread.
Well done
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When I enter God's kingdom in eternity I won't ever think about my former life again, but I will get to be with my Lord and Savior!
Hopefully many of you will be there also.....just not up to me though.
what if your reincarnated? :P
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[avada kedavra meme]
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[you gotta keep em separated pic]
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[more keep em separated meme]
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Holy fuck! MOS's faith is beginning to deteriorate! Haha!
He's desperately trying to hold on but his intelligent mind is making it evermore difficult!
Give in to reason and reality, MOS! You can do it!
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I had a Witness at the door telling me the the problems of the world. Among them was sex. Fornication or adultery or something. I couldn't resist, so I interject, "Ok but what about Smith? He was pretty busy with the ladies." They asked who Smith was and I replied, "Joe Smith. Joseph Smith. Your messiah." And they said he's not our messiah. At which point it dawned on me that Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses are two completely different groups.
This is like 3 months ago. I've gone through my entire life complaining about Mormons knocking on my door.
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Holy fuck! MOS's faith is beginning to deteriorate! Haha!
He's desperately trying to hold on but his intelligent mind is making it evermore difficult!
Give in to reason and reality, MOS! You can do it!
I'm just playing the casual, super EASY role of online religion troll.....all that's required is the ability to google and say "bull$**t" to theist replies.
Oh yeah forgot.....tl/dr
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Deteriorating faith AND excess alcohol!
Guy's collapsing under his own weight of horseshit!
Haha!
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Deteriorating faith AND excess alcohol!
Guy's collapsing under his own weight of horseshit!
Haha!
tl/dr
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I love how MOS thinks these threads are some sort of win for him lol. It's like he thinks that by posting the memes himself, it somehow diminishes the truth in the arguments made by critics of organised religion. If he really wants to give us a laugh, he should post his actual responses to theological questions...that's some fucking comedy. ;D
"These threads"? There aren't multiple threads like this...there's no history of this. There's only this thread today.
I just played the part of cliche trolling atheist that puts forth nothing but memes and "hit and run" attacks.....if people don't like the taste...well...sorry.
Doing this stuff is mindless nothingness. I've simply done exactly what your buddies have done on these boards for years in about an hour....effortlessly. Y'all should be thanking me LOL!
Now, you can mock my answers to questions if you want, but I do answer questions and I know for some God haters that REALLY irks them...takes away from the power of their "unanswerable objections". I've had many folks contact me privately thanking me for what I do to combat the atheist snark on these boards and represent Jesus Christ in the process. Still, I'm not out to "irk" anyone though and I take no credit for myself....I'm nothing. I want to help people understand that there are answers to atheists questions, that atheists don't have a monopoly on asking questions and bring glory to God in the process.
Oh yeah, tl/dr.
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"These threads"? There aren't multiple threads like this...there's no history of this. There's only this thread today.
Yeah, no history (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=604746.msg8405959#msg8405959). Just this one time here.
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Yeah, no history (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=604746.msg8405959#msg8405959). Just this one time here.
Completely different thread not started by me. Showed thread readers that there are many "studies" attempting to find a correlation between religion and all sorts of negative things. You could probably find a study that equates nut allergies with religion...that's the point. People engage in these "studies" with a predetermined conclusion and a definite bias. If you've ever worked with large datasets you'll quickly learn you can distort data into almost any end you want.
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John Wilkes Booth
As recounted in the editor's introduction of the 1874 memoir of Booth's sister's, Asia Booth Clarke, no one church was preeminent in the Booth household during her childhood. Booth's mother was Episcopalian and his father was described as a free spirit, who was open to the great teachings of all religions.[22] On January 23, 1853, the 14-year-old Booth was baptized at St. Timothy's Protestant Episcopal Church.[20] The Booth family had traditionally been Episcopalian. Clergyman Charles Chiniquy, however, stated that John Wilkes Booth was really a Roman Catholic convert, later in life. A historian, Constance Head, also declared that Booth was of this religion. Head, who wrote the 1982 paper "Insights on John Wilkes Booth from His Sister Asia's Correspondence," published in the Lincoln Herald, quoted from a letter of Booth's sister, Asia Booth Clarke, in which she wrote that her brother was a Roman Catholic. Booth Clarke's memoir was published after her death. Terry Alford, a college history professor and a leading authority on the life of John Wilkes Booth,[23] has stated, "Asia Booth Clarke's memoir of her brother John Wilkes Booth has been recognized as the single most important document available for understanding the personality of the assassin of President Abraham Lincoln", and "no outsider could give such insights into the turbulent Booth's childhood or share such unique personal knowledge of the gifted actor". Testimony given at the trial of John Surratt showed that at his death, Booth had a Catholic medal on his person. Court evidence showed his attending a Roman Catholic church service on at least two occasions. Like his sister Asia, he received education at a school established by an official of the Catholic Church. As to Lincoln's assassin being seen an Episcopalian during his life, and in death, while really being a Roman Catholic, Constance Head stated: "In any case, it seems certain that Booth did not publicize his conversion during his lifetime. And while there is no reasonable cause to connect Booth's religious preference and his 'mad act', the few who knew of his conversion must have decided after the assassination that for the good of the church, it was best never to mention it. Thus the secret remained so well guarded that even the most rabidly anti-Catholic writers who tried to depict the assassination of Lincoln as a Jesuit or Papist plot were puzzled by the seemingly accurate information that John Wilkes Booth was an Episcopalian."[24][25][26]
Conclusion: Religion killed Lincoln!!!
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LOL :D
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John Wilkes Booth
As recounted in the editor's introduction of the 1874 memoir of Booth's sister's, Asia Booth Clarke, no one church was preeminent in the Booth household during her childhood. Booth's mother was Episcopalian and his father was described as a free spirit, who was open to the great teachings of all religions.[22] On January 23, 1853, the 14-year-old Booth was baptized at St. Timothy's Protestant Episcopal Church.[20] The Booth family had traditionally been Episcopalian. Clergyman Charles Chiniquy, however, stated that John Wilkes Booth was really a Roman Catholic convert, later in life. A historian, Constance Head, also declared that Booth was of this religion. Head, who wrote the 1982 paper "Insights on John Wilkes Booth from His Sister Asia's Correspondence," published in the Lincoln Herald, quoted from a letter of Booth's sister, Asia Booth Clarke, in which she wrote that her brother was a Roman Catholic. Booth Clarke's memoir was published after her death. Terry Alford, a college history professor and a leading authority on the life of John Wilkes Booth,[23] has stated, "Asia Booth Clarke's memoir of her brother John Wilkes Booth has been recognized as the single most important document available for understanding the personality of the assassin of President Abraham Lincoln", and "no outsider could give such insights into the turbulent Booth's childhood or share such unique personal knowledge of the gifted actor". Testimony given at the trial of John Surratt showed that at his death, Booth had a Catholic medal on his person. Court evidence showed his attending a Roman Catholic church service on at least two occasions. Like his sister Asia, he received education at a school established by an official of the Catholic Church. As to Lincoln's assassin being seen an Episcopalian during his life, and in death, while really being a Roman Catholic, Constance Head stated: "In any case, it seems certain that Booth did not publicize his conversion during his lifetime. And while there is no reasonable cause to connect Booth's religious preference and his 'mad act', the few who knew of his conversion must have decided after the assassination that for the good of the church, it was best never to mention it. Thus the secret remained so well guarded that even the most rabidly anti-Catholic writers who tried to depict the assassination of Lincoln as a Jesuit or Papist plot were puzzled by the seemingly accurate information that John Wilkes Booth was an Episcopalian."[24][25][26]
Conclusion: Religion killed Lincoln!!!
That was truly "Adonis-like".
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That was truly "Adonis-like".
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I love how MOS thinks these threads are some sort of win for him lol. It's like he thinks that by posting the memes himself, it somehow diminishes the truth in the arguments made by critics of organised religion. If he really wants to give us a laugh, he should post his actual responses to theological questions...that's some fucking comedy. ;D
Yup. You know hes sitting there, laughing his ass off and saying to himself, "I am owning these atheists." :D :D :D
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I don't mind the memes, they are funny. But seeing as you posted them...please state your opinions regarding the comments made by Ayn Rand, Epicurus and Thomas Jefferson
already tackled all three.....actually it was a different Jefferson quote I addressed.
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CaptFreedom on fire in this thread.
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Brilliant...that's that then. I'll forget about the Jefferson quote you posted, seeing as you've already talked about him once before in a different context, and i'll sift through 17624 posts of literal hell in order to find your refutations of the Ayn Rand and Epicurus quotes LOL. I take it that you're never going to make any more hilarious troll threads regarding atheists now, seeing as you've done it before too? I hope you're ready for a tsunami of heartbroken PM's from the getbig comedy connoisseurs!
Everything I posted up is just classic memes and pics posted over and over and over and over again for years. I've already addressed (and continue to address) most of this stuff in some form or fashion. Done it both directly and indirectly dozens and dozens of times. You want me to turn this thread into a debate thread now and divert it's purpose. Sorry, not going to do that....thread will remain what it is.
Let me understand, you're critical of me for creating a single thread that demonstrates how easy and meaningless it is to troll like atheists have done FOR YEARS (making hundreds of mocking/trolling threads about religion).
To be clear, you want me to ensure you that going forward I won't make more threads like this one? Is that correct?
LOL, I have no intention of making more threads like this....it's clearly served it's purpose. I can simply refer to this thread if need be in the future.
Now of course you're going to take to task the other boards atheists for the hundreds of religious trolling threads made over the years correct?
The folks that PM me thank me for my witness for Christ, for answering questions and standing confidently against the consistent snark of most atheists...glory to God.
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LOL@Man of Steel melting down in his own troll thread!
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