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Title: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: musclecenter on March 23, 2016, 07:53:59 AM
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Post by: polychronopolous on March 23, 2016, 07:56:13 AM
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Post by: Papper on March 23, 2016, 10:53:51 AM


Now he realized? I feel really safe knowing the authorities in Europe are having this incredible foresight  ::)
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Post by: Fortress on March 23, 2016, 10:55:09 AM
Bunch of bought weasels, the lot.

Put 'em all on a stick.
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Post by: polychronopolous on March 23, 2016, 11:00:24 AM
Islamic immigration will be the downfall of Europe.
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Post by: calfzilla on March 23, 2016, 11:10:11 AM
Gosh maybe the west destabilizing the Middle East was the wrong choice.  ::)
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Post by: Fortress on March 23, 2016, 11:24:02 AM
Gosh maybe the west destabilizing the Middle East was the wrong choice.  ::)

Should never have interfered in any of the Middle East's affairs.
Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: Mitch on March 23, 2016, 11:30:07 AM
Bunch of bought weasels, the lot.

Put 'em all on a stick.
Vote for Tress!  ;D 8)
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Post by: MoralMan on March 23, 2016, 11:37:15 AM
Islamic immigration will be the downfall of Europe.

Of course it is. This whole continent is fucked, can Australia let me come and live there please? I was there few years back it was great.
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Post by: Tennisballz on March 23, 2016, 11:37:36 AM
Gosh maybe the west destabilizing the Middle East was the wrong choice.  ::)
I agree.
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Post by: Fortress on March 23, 2016, 11:43:26 AM
I just want to live for one day without a reminder that Islam exists and Muslims are being welcomed into once-proud nations.

Quite soon, there will be nowhere to go to completely escape from the putrid Islam.
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Post by: Coffeed on March 23, 2016, 11:44:02 AM
Actually making a statement against something and mentioning that it is at all related to Islam is a bold move.

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Post by: Coffeed on March 23, 2016, 11:50:04 AM

That's scary almost... someone running for president who is actually saying something that doesn't toe the line.
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Post by: timfogarty on March 23, 2016, 11:53:13 AM
Perhaps you don't remember the IRA and ETA bombings of the 70s and 90s?
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Post by: Coffeed on March 23, 2016, 11:57:46 AM
Perhaps you don't remember the IRA and ETA bombings of the 70s and 90s?
If it didn't cross the Atlantic, it didn't happen.
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Post by: HTexan on March 23, 2016, 12:00:18 PM
http://hw-mobile.worldstarhiphop.com/u/vid/2016/03/QJNkGpttvNZp_mobile.mp4?ri=512000&rs=850
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Post by: Coffeed on March 23, 2016, 12:38:18 PM
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Post by: BigRo on March 23, 2016, 12:59:21 PM
Perhaps you don't remember the IRA and ETA bombings of the 70s and 90s?

stupid graph.
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Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on March 23, 2016, 01:21:10 PM
If it didn't cross the Atlantic, it didn't happen.

The money to fund the IRA certainly came from across the Atlantic. Every week for 30 years until 1999 there were several shootings and bombings in Northern Ireland and England. It's amazing how many terrorist attacks were performed by both sides practically every day until the good Friday agreement. Thousands died and we kind of just accepted the news reports every day. Belfast, London, Birmingham, even Margaret Thatcher's fuckin government were blown up at their conference in Brighton in 1984. 36 dead or seriously injured and Maggie herself just escaped death. 
These isis guys are amateurs by comparison.
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Post by: timfogarty on March 23, 2016, 02:53:33 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeQ5kU0WEAA74I0.jpg)
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Post by: Donny on March 25, 2016, 03:56:06 AM
The money to fund the IRA certainly came from across the Atlantic. Every week for 30 years until 1999 there were several shootings and bombings in Northern Ireland and England. It's amazing how many terrorist attacks were performed by both sides practically every day until the good Friday agreement. Thousands died and we kind of just accepted the news reports every day. Belfast, London, Birmingham, even Margaret Thatcher's fuckin government were blown up at their conference in Brighton in 1984. 36 dead or seriously injured and Maggie herself just escaped death.  
These isis guys are amateurs by comparison.
Good post Big Al. I laughed at this scum bag crying because he was not allowed entry. What does he expect as a Terrorist?
http://www.irishcentral.com/opinion/niallodowd/Gerry-Adams-refused-entrance-to-White-House-StPatricks-Day-reception.html
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Post by: Donny on March 25, 2016, 04:21:08 AM
Adams cowering behind a child for protection...
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Post by: Tapeworm on March 25, 2016, 05:39:16 AM
The money to fund the IRA certainly came from across the Atlantic. Every week for 30 years until 1999 there were several shootings and bombings in Northern Ireland and England. It's amazing how many terrorist attacks were performed by both sides practically every day until the good Friday agreement. Thousands died and we kind of just accepted the news reports every day. Belfast, London, Birmingham, even Margaret Thatcher's fuckin government were blown up at their conference in Brighton in 1984. 36 dead or seriously injured and Maggie herself just escaped death.  
These isis guys are amateurs by comparison.

That's because anyone with an unbiased, outside perspective can see quite clearly that the English should pack up their imperial bullshit and fuck off home.  Get the hell off their island.  Go back to your own island, you cunts.  Good Friday.  ::)  Peace at what cost?  Of course there's peace.  You pussy Irish gave away the north of your country.
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Post by: Kahn.N.Singh on March 25, 2016, 07:08:02 AM
I often use the phrase 'hannibalian eye' to connote 'blind eye.' I use it in my everyday speech and in writing.* I know I should be less ostentatious in my choice of locution, but, if you don't know that Hannibal Barca went blind in one eye because of severe trauma on his expedition across the Appennines Mountains during the Second Punic War, well, you're a dullard.**


*
The young woman got what she deserved, but not only in punitive terms. Not only is the law punitive, it is also corrective and restorative. The judge's decision, while appearing to overstep arbitrarily, is actually an objective attempt to correct this woman's rational decision making (by having her reflect on the consequences of her actions in toto) for the sake of restoring her to law-abiding citizenship.* If the judge were to have turned a hannibalian eye on her failure to reciprocate recognition of his and the court's deserved respect, he, in turn, would not be recognizing her as a fully rational human being who is worthy of his consideration. Of course, there's always the chance that the judge is a soup-nazi of justice, so saying por favor instead of adios probably wouldn't have worked.

**For the dullards: See Livy, Hannibal's War, trans. J.C. Yardley, (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2006), p. 69.  
Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: BigRo on March 25, 2016, 07:23:00 AM
That's because anyone with an unbiased, outside perspective can see quite clearly that the English should pack up their imperial bullshit and fuck off home.  Get the hell off their island.  Go back to your own island, you cunts.  Good Friday.  ::)  Peace at what cost?  Of course there's peace.  You pussy Irish gave away the north of your country.

Thank you.
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Post by: phreak on March 25, 2016, 10:01:14 AM
Now he realized? I feel really safe knowing the authorities in Europe are having this incredible foresight  ::)
He knew for years already. But actually saying out loud would have been political suicide even 5 years ago. Good for him as one of the first western european leaders to come out and say it openly.
Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: Griffith on March 25, 2016, 10:03:16 AM
'America' started all these problems with their illegal invasion of Iraq and then pulling their troops out of Iraq creating a power vacuum.

The secondary culprits are Britain and France who orchestrated the ousting of Gaddafi.

America and Britain are to blame for this mess.

Causing chaos around the world while their banks launch speculative attacks on weaker currencies to profit off them.
Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: Conker on March 25, 2016, 10:15:00 AM
'America' started all these problems with their illegal invasion of Iraq and then pulling their troops out of Iraq creating a power vacuum.

The secondary culprits are Britain and France who orchestrated the ousting of Gaddafi.

America and Britain are to blame for this mess.

Causing chaos around the world while their banks launch speculative attacks on weaker currencies to profit off them.

thread/

although i think the US probably instigated the bombing of libya too, they just wanted someone else to take the lead so publicly it didn't look like it's always america.
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Post by: Nails on March 25, 2016, 10:18:06 AM
Man Purse using Euro F a g s
Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: drkaje on March 25, 2016, 02:42:35 PM
'America' started all these problems with their illegal invasion of Iraq and then pulling their troops out of Iraq creating a power vacuum.

The secondary culprits are Britain and France who orchestrated the ousting of Gaddafi.

America and Britain are to blame for this mess.

Causing chaos around the world while their banks launch speculative attacks on weaker currencies to profit off them.

The Middle East mess started well before Iraq.
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Post by: Conker on March 25, 2016, 02:47:27 PM
The Middle East mess started well before Iraq.

did it hell, well not like the mess we have now. you now have civil war in iraq, syria and libya. previously all relatively secular and stable countries, now all failed states and breeding grounds for western hating terrorists.
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Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on March 25, 2016, 03:30:10 PM
That's because anyone with an unbiased, outside perspective can see quite clearly that the English should pack up their imperial bullshit and fuck off home.  Get the hell off their island.  Go back to your own island, you cunts.  Good Friday.  ::)  Peace at what cost?  Of course there's peace.  You pussy Irish gave away the north of your country.

You are a total fucking arsehole. The vast majority of people of Northern Ireland are the most staunch, loyal, Royalist, proud members of the United Kingdome you can imagine and have been for 500 years.  They are more British than the Welsh, English and Scottish. These people trace their roots back to the creation of the Kingdom of Ireland in 1542.  By your logic the Americans should leave North America and give the land back to the red Indians.

I'm just glad the troubles are mainly over and the Catholics of the Republic of Ireland and Protestant British of Northern Ireland share the Island in relative peace these days.


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Post by: Griffith on March 25, 2016, 10:37:05 PM
The Middle East mess started well before Iraq.

A small problem limited to parts of the region.

Now it's completely global and Europe is having to deal with the brunt of it.

The cause is America, an illegal war in Iraq, then pulling out troops and leading to destablisation of the entire region and escalation in Syria.

If it was any other country they would have sanctions against them or would have been bombed to shit for going against the UN.

America broke international law in invading Irag and destablised peace on the entire planet.
Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: Tapeworm on March 25, 2016, 10:43:32 PM
You are a total fucking arsehole. The vast majority of people of Northern Ireland are the most staunch, loyal, Royalist, proud members of the United Kingdome you can imagine and have been for 500 years.  They are more British than the Welsh, English and Scottish. These people trace their roots back to the creation of the Kingdom of Ireland in 1542.  By your logic the Americans should leave North America and give the land back to the red Indians.

I'm just glad the troubles are mainly over and the Catholics of the Republic of Ireland and Protestant British of Northern Ireland share the Island in relative peace these days.




Lol, shots fired!  You're a Scot ffs.  How can you be pro-English?  Medizer.  Collaborator.  Turncoat.  Mods, please change this person's screen name to BIG AL KECHNIE.


Well that oughta do it.
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Post by: BigRo on March 25, 2016, 11:53:33 PM
The Protestant Scots are largely responsible for keeping northern Ireland in the UK actually, they were encouraged to replant so as to build up large numbers loyal to the crown.

It is far from a vast majority that want to stay under British rule but it is enough at the moment, probably better than being a EU lapdog like the Irish government at the moment anyway.

Here is an example of the highly evolved culture of the british fleg lovers;

Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on March 26, 2016, 07:28:04 AM
Lol, shots fired!  You're a Scot ffs.  How can you be pro-English?  Medizer.  Collaborator.  Turncoat.  Mods, please change this person's screen name to BIG AL KECHNIE.


Well that oughta do it.

Not pro English.  Pro British. The Island is Great Britain, comprising Wales, England and Scotland. It comes down to religion.  The Northern Irish, Scots and some English are basically protestant and do not take to being part of the Roman Catholic church. 1690 is the year remembered as the year Catholicism was defeated under the glorious King William of Orange at the battle of the Boyne.  

The Union flag which dates back to 1801 was the coming together of the crosses of St George of England, St Andrew of Scotland and St Patrick of Ireland.

Remember that the first King of the unified Great Britain was James 6th of Scotland who became the King of England and the King of Ireland in 1603.

To be honest, it seems that the protestants of Scotland and Northern Ireland are the last staunch supporters of the Queen and Great Britain. The English don't seem to be too pro Britain these days as England is full of muslims and catholics.
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Post by: Tapeworm on March 26, 2016, 08:39:27 AM
Again, from an outside perspective - non-British, non-Irish, non-Catholic, non-Protestant - it looked like soldiers, who came from somewhere else, stringing out barbed wire across the northern part of Ireland and holding a gunpoint vote.

Someone actually interested in peace would have closed up shop and gone home, then invited the Irish to vote about whether or not to invite them back.  Since they're so confident that's what the Irish really want, after all.  That'd be what someone more interested in peace than in whitewashing a continued occupation would have done, no?


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Post by: Donny on March 26, 2016, 08:50:42 AM
Again, from an outside perspective - non-British, non-Irish, non-Catholic, non-Protestant - it looked like soldiers, who came from somewhere else, stringing out barbed wire across the northern part of Ireland and holding a gunpoint vote.

Someone actually interested in peace would have closed up shop and gone home, then invited the Irish to vote about whether or not to invite them back.  Since they're so confident that's what the Irish really want, after all.  That'd be what someone more interested in peace than in whitewashing a continued occupation would have done, no?



I take it you have walked the walk over there? Gun point vote what are you talking about?   ::)
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Post by: Griffith on March 26, 2016, 08:58:30 AM
Not pro English.  Pro British. The Island is Great Britain, comprising Wales, England and Scotland. It comes down to religion.  The Northern Irish, Scots and some English are basically protestant and do not take to being part of the Roman Catholic church. 1690 is the year remembered as the year Catholicism was defeated under the glorious King William of Orange at the battle of the Boyne.  

The Union flag which dates back to 1801 was the coming together of the crosses of St George of England, St Andrew of Scotland and St Patrick of Ireland.

Remember that the first King of the unified Great Britain was James 6th of Scotland who became the King of England and the King of Ireland in 1603.

To be honest, it seems that the protestants of Scotland and Northern Ireland are the last staunch supporters of the Queen and Great Britain. The English don't seem to be too pro Britain these days as England is full of muslims and catholics.


A great history, but now Britain has been steadily in decline since World War II and the trend seems to be continuing.

Without their forex and banking in London, they would have nothing. That's all they have left.

As it is, they are barely holding-on as a second-tier power.
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Post by: Donny on March 26, 2016, 09:01:02 AM
The most people who mouth off and are radical about N Ireland are people who were never there as a civilian or Soldier. Look at the Irish on here, they say their opinion but not in an aggressive way. There are always two sides to any story. Mine is of course from a Soldiers view point having been there.
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Post by: Tapeworm on March 26, 2016, 09:05:52 AM
The most people who mouth off and are radical about N Ireland are people who were never there as a civilian or Soldier. Look at the Irish on here, they say their opinion but not in an aggressive way. There are always two sides to any story. Mine is of course from a Soldiers view point having been there.

Exactly.  If they wanted you there you wouldn't have needed the gun.  You could have hopped off the bus in a Hawaiian print shirt.
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Post by: Donny on March 26, 2016, 09:15:36 AM
Exactly.  If they wanted you there you wouldn't have needed the gun.  You could have hopped off the bus in a Hawaiian print shirt.
so tell us about your experience there. I am all ears.
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Post by: Tapeworm on March 26, 2016, 09:26:42 AM
I take it you have walked the walk over there? Gun point vote what are you talking about?   ::)

The other Scot made reference to the Good Friday Farce.  I'm saying that an invitation to come to dinner is more genuine when the person you're inviting isn't already sitting at the table, holding a gun, promising there's going to be more trouble if a vote to keep him around doesn't go his way.



so tell us about your experience there. I am all ears.

It's not one of those 'you don't know, you weren't there' things.  Anyone with a TV set saw it.  The Brits clearly used military force to stay somewhere they weren't wanted.   

Lets not pretend like it was a complicated situation.  The only thing that made it complicated was the foreign army that wouldn't leave.  If you had, any remaining issues would have been Irish issues, which is what they are after all.
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Post by: Donny on March 26, 2016, 09:32:52 AM
The other Scot made reference to the Good Friday Farce.  I'm saying that an invitation to come to dinner is more genuine when the person you're inviting isn't already sitting at the table, holding a gun, promising there's going to be more trouble if a vote to keep him around doesn't go his way.



It's not one of those 'you don't know, you weren't there' things.  Anyone with a TV set saw it.  The Brits clearly used military force to stay somewhere they weren't wanted.   

Lets not pretend like it was a complicated situation.  The only thing that made it complicated was the foreign army that wouldn't leave.  If you had, any remaining issues would have been Irish issues, which is what they are after all.
OK so you were never there but... are an armchair expert.
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Post by: Tapeworm on March 26, 2016, 09:38:09 AM
OK so you were never there but... are an armchair expert.

Do you have any argument to make in favor of the occupation?  Based on your experiences there and whatnot?

I don't know if the other guy served there but he at least tried with that historical/religious malarky he typed up.  I can respect that.  Come on, man.  Dig deep.
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Post by: Donny on March 26, 2016, 09:44:21 AM
Do you have any argument to make in favor of the occupation?  Based on your experiences there and whatnot?

I don't know if the other guy served there but he at least tried with that historical/religious malarky he typed up.  I can respect that.  Come on, man.  Dig deep.
Not an occupation. You see it from the perspective of your armchair. The British army was sent in to assist in peace keeping. There were a lot of people loyal to the crown wanted us there. If we were not there, there would have been a lot more Blood shed. "The other Guy" did serve yes so he does know more than you.
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Post by: Tapeworm on March 26, 2016, 10:27:17 AM
Maybe there wouldn't have been any bloodshed.  You don't know.  Because your weren't not there.  Ever. 

The peacekeeping thing doesn't wash.  The whole world gets behind peacekeeping and it's a multinational effort.  That's where it gets legitimacy.  There was no UN effort.  In fact, the Brits actually rejected an Irish request for a UN peacekeeping force after the Brits kept shooting Irish people.  Did the Brits say "No, it's our peacekeeping mission, we got it!"  Nope.  They said, "It's a domestic thing, not a peacekeeping thing" and rejected the Irish request to bring in the UN.

I have no doubt they told you it was a peacekeeping mission.  I hope you personally did some good.
Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on March 26, 2016, 10:37:36 AM
 quote author=Tapeworm link=topic=606596.msg8444689#msg8444689 date=1459010289]
Do you have any argument to make in favor of the occupation?  Based on your experiences there and whatnot?

I don't know if the other guy served there but he at least tried with that historical/religious malarky he typed up.  I can respect that.  Come on, man.  Dig deep.
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I was in the RAF but didn't serve in NI.

Believe it or not the soldiers were originally sent to protect the persecuted Catholics who lived in the British part of the Island. If you had asked the population of NI back in 1970 you would have found 80% would have voted to keep NI part of the United Kingdom.


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Post by: Donny on March 26, 2016, 10:40:05 AM
Maybe there wouldn't have been any bloodshed.  You don't know.  Because your weren't not there.  Ever. 

The peacekeeping thing doesn't wash.  The whole world gets behind peacekeeping and it's a multinational effort.  That's where it gets legitimacy.  There was no UN effort.  In fact, the Brits actually rejected an Irish request for a UN peacekeeping force after the Brits kept shooting Irish people.  Did the Brits say "No, it's our peacekeeping mission, we got it!"  Nope.  They said, "It's a domestic thing, not a peacekeeping thing" and rejected the Irish request to bring in the UN.

I have no doubt they told you it was a peacekeeping mission.  I hope you personally did some good.
I am sorry but you donīt know what you are talking about. No bloodshed are you crazy? I think as you wrote "the other Guy" is trying to Educate you. I suggest you read about it and the History. Then i suggest you go to N Ireland and speak to both Catholics and Prodistants. Then we will discuss it. Yes i was there in 1987. Belfast, Londonderry,Long kesh(H Blocks) and rural areas.
Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: Tapeworm on March 26, 2016, 11:16:45 AM
quote author=Tapeworm link=topic=606596.msg8444689#msg8444689 date=1459010289]
Do you have any argument to make in favor of the occupation?  Based on your experiences there and whatnot?

I don't know if the other guy served there but he at least tried with that historical/religious malarky he typed up.  I can respect that.  Come on, man.  Dig deep.


I was in the RAF but didn't serve in NI.

Believe it or not the soldiers were originally sent to protect the persecuted Catholics who lived in the British part of the Island. If you had asked the population of NI back in 1970 you would have found 80% would have voted to keep NI part of the United Kingdom.




That was a long time ago, and I don't think the young ones give a damn about religion anymore.  Pretty much the first time in history.  The Brits have been fighting geography since fat Henry, so it's been a good run through all those years when the Crown had some clout, but they never managed to get it all.  You got to get it all, like the Yanks from the Injuns, or you just get this ongoing drama.  I reckon sooner or later the place will just revert to it's natural borders.
Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: Donny on March 27, 2016, 01:56:05 PM
To show some "Humor" we did invent a big catapult ;) Royal Scots 1970

Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: BigRo on March 27, 2016, 02:04:23 PM
what the heck is in the catapult and aimed at who, the Ra?
Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on March 28, 2016, 12:13:28 AM
Half of the northern Ireland people want to be a part of Britain and half want to be a part of Ireland. Three of its nine counties are a part of Ireland and the other six, which contain people who want to be Irish and people who want to be British are a part of Britain. It's still a dangerous place up there where you wouldn't fuck around in the wrong neighborhood, it has its Catholic and protestant areas. I live on the other side of Ireland, the complete Irish part but I've been up there many times
Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: Griffith on March 28, 2016, 02:19:55 AM
That was a long time ago, and I don't think the young ones give a damn about religion anymore.  Pretty much the first time in history.  The Brits have been fighting geography since fat Henry, so it's been a good run through all those years when the Crown had some clout, but they never managed to get it all.  You got to get it all, like the Yanks from the Injuns, or you just get this ongoing drama.  I reckon sooner or later the place will just revert to it's natural borders.

Eventually Scotland will probably break away.

The UK has been in steady decline since the end of World War II.
Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: Conker on March 28, 2016, 03:57:11 AM
what the heck is in the catapult and aimed at who, the Ra?

nah a kid in his bedroom that ain't done his homework
Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: Irongrip400 on March 28, 2016, 04:33:27 AM
Eventually Scotland will probably break away.

The UK has been in steady decline since the end of World War II.

Won't happen. This last referendum proved that. Add in the fact that more and more non Scottish immigrants are being settled there, and it's a slow death. It's fate was sealed two years ago. Enjoy living in little Scottistan.
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Post by: drkaje on March 28, 2016, 04:48:58 AM
What happens when they insist distilleries be closed?
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Post by: drkaje on March 28, 2016, 08:11:40 AM
Am I the only one who finds it very curious this is happening in places where it's very difficult to own guns?
Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: Conker on March 28, 2016, 09:22:52 AM
Am I the only one who finds it very curious this is happening in places where it's very difficult to own guns?


no. barring france the vast majority of terrorist attacks in europe are with bombs. how do you stop a bomb with a gun ? you don't know who has it or where it is. in fact guns are much more readily available in france than they are in the uk, could be the reason why guns were the weapon of choice in paris attacks.

tbh even if terrorist attacks could be stopped by having a ridiculous number of guns in society(which they couldn't). i would still rather take my chances of falling victim to terrorists than have a 4-5 time higher murder rate as is the case the states.

not great logic is it....lets arm every tom, dick and harry to protect ourselves from terrorist attacks but in doing so we will also make it 5 times more likely you're murdered anyway  ???
Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: drkaje on March 28, 2016, 09:43:40 AM

no. barring france the vast majority of terrorist attacks in europe are with bombs. how do you stop a bomb with a gun ? you don't know who has it or where it is. in fact guns are much more readily available in france than they are in the uk, could be the reason why guns were the weapon of choice in paris attacks.

tbh even if terrorist attacks could be stopped by having a ridiculous number of guns in society(which they couldn't). i would still rather take my chances of falling victim to terrorists than have a 4-5 time higher murder rate as is the case the states.

not great logic is it....lets arm every tom, dick and harry to protect ourselves from terrorist attacks but in doing so we will also make it 5 times more likely you're murdered anyway  ???

I'm referring to the idea that government's ability to practice tyranny seems tied to gun ownership. People protested being inundated with refugees left, right, and center but had no choice.
Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: Conker on March 28, 2016, 09:55:32 AM
I'm referring to the idea that government's ability to practice tyranny seems tied to gun ownership. People protested being inundated with refugees left, right, and center but had no choice.

i think i have seen this discussed a few times already on here. even in the states where you have more guns than people in society, most agree that with the level of military sophistication available to western governments, even if the people did take up arms they would be defeated quite easily.

civilian gun ownership really serves no functional purpose in developed society, no matter how much we try to fly in the face of logic denying it.
Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: drkaje on March 28, 2016, 10:51:53 AM
i think i have seen this discussed a few times already on here. even in the states where you have more guns than people in society, most agree that with the level of military sophistication available to western governments, even if the people did take up arms they would be defeated quite easily.

civilian gun ownership really serves no functional purpose in developed society, no matter how much we try to fly in the face of logic denying it.

You're correct in stating that armed citizens wouldn't be able to stand against government tyranny.

I respectfully disagree that government military might makes the the right to bear arms antiquated.
Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: Irongrip400 on March 28, 2016, 11:58:26 AM
You're correct in stating that armed citizens wouldn't be able to stand against government tyranny.

I respectfully disagree that government military might makes the the right to bear arms antiquated.

You're wrong on your first response. To think that if an entire populace rose up against the government that the soldiers would continue to blast civilians and not join them is being short sighted.
Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: drkaje on March 28, 2016, 12:01:25 PM
You're wrong on your first response. To think that if an entire populace rose up against the government that the soldiers would continue to blast civilians and not join them is being short sighted.

The entire populace will never stand up against anything.
Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: Irongrip400 on March 28, 2016, 05:15:01 PM
The entire populace will never stand up against anything.

Ask the Bourbon Monarchy.
Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: Tapeworm on March 28, 2016, 05:18:07 PM
Ask the Bourbon Monarchy.

"Whadda ya got to drink around here?"
Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: GigantorX on March 28, 2016, 05:22:06 PM
The entire populace will never stand up against anything.

They wouldn't need to.
Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: The Ugly on March 28, 2016, 05:23:32 PM
so tell us about your experience there. I am all ears.

Not "all," friend. You're kinda asshole, too.
Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: The Ugly on March 28, 2016, 05:27:58 PM
Perhaps you don't remember the IRA and ETA bombings of the 70s and 90s?

Well done, Tim. Someone needs to defend the honor of these unfairly criticized Islamic terrorists.
Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: Donny on March 30, 2016, 03:07:57 AM
what the heck is in the catapult and aimed at who, the Ra?
was used in the early days to fire CS Gas at Rioters.

Title: Re: France's PM says "Europe has turned a blind eye to terror"
Post by: Donny on March 30, 2016, 03:08:59 AM
Half of the northern Ireland people want to be a part of Britain and half want to be a part of Ireland. Three of its nine counties are a part of Ireland and the other six, which contain people who want to be Irish and people who want to be British are a part of Britain. It's still a dangerous place up there where you wouldn't fuck around in the wrong neighborhood, it has its Catholic and protestant areas. I live on the other side of Ireland, the complete Irish part but I've been up there many times
Yes still a very Dangerous place.