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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Wiggs on April 06, 2016, 05:02:12 PM
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Based upon all my accumulated knowledge of genetics of the races, training, drugs and nutrition, I believe Ronnie was still a lifetime natural as he said he was and rumored to have been when he became a pro. He has superior Hebrew genetics. Ronnie is an example of the old saying "imagine if he was on steroids". When he did hop on steroids and everything else, he became Mr. Olympia.
Ronnie is the greatest lifetime natural of all time. Ohearn, Drug Miller, Ulyssess and Simeon Panda not so much on the natural side.
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As sure as the Earth is flat, he was natural.
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Could easily be filled with natural testosterone. Looks like your average gym rat with those shitty 21" biceps.
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As sure as the Earth is flat, he was natural.
I'm sorry he was natural. Let's remember this is Ronnie Coleman we're talking about here. Not Mike O'hearn. Ronnie has some of the greatest ability to build muscle that we've ever seen. Add in his training style, consistency, durability and have a mentor in Brian Dobson to guide you. I have no doubt Ronnie was natural from what I've seen. I've had my ear to walls on this subject a long time and the same thing keeps popping up. Ronnie was natural when he turned pro, it was a drug tested event. Of course there's always the possibility he could have went around it but with all due respect, we're talk about Ronnie and Brian not Barry Bonds and Victor Conte. Also this was 1991 alot harder to cheat drug test back then. The knowledge wasn't around like it is now.
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Could easily be filled with natural testosterone. Looks like your average gym rat with those shitty 21" biceps.
This is Ronnie we're talking about. Let's keep that in mind.
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Could easily be filled with natural testosterone. Looks like your average gym rat with those shitty 21" biceps.
Spot on.
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Lets keep in mind this is a man that still has the hairline of a 13 year old and was able to impregnate women consistently while winning Mr. Olympias. Where' not talk about your average joe here.
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Lets keep in mind this is a man that still has the hairline of a 13 year old and was able to impregnate women consistently while winning Mr. Olympias. Where' not talk about your average joe here.
That's true.
He also squatted 800 pounds for reps.
The fact that Ronnie actually talks about how he went from not doing drugs to DOING drugs during his career gives him some odd degree of believability.
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Based on that photo, Ronnie was in the 90 kg or 198 lb division. It's not like he's 220. 198 stage ready at 5'10 with the best genetics is believable.
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I'm sorry he was natural. Let's remember this is Ronnie Coleman we're talking about here. Not Mike O'hearn. Ronnie has some of the greatest ability to build muscle that we've ever seen. Add in his training style, consistency, durability and have a mentor in Brian Dobson to guide you. I have no doubt Ronnie was natural from what I've seen. I've had my ear to walls on this subject a long time and the same thing keeps popping up. Ronnie was natural when he turned pro, it was a drug tested event. Of course there's always the possibility he could have went around it but with all due respect, we're talk about Ronnie and Brian not Barry Bonds and Victor Conte. Also this was 1991 alot harder to cheat drug test back then. The knowledge wasn't around like it is now.
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I'm amazed he last as long as he did. That's a testament to his durability and lesser man couldn't have done what he did. I certainly don't condone it.
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Ronnie also competed in the ADFPA before his breakout in bodybuilding. I think this footage is from that organization.
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I really want to believe that Ronnie was natural. I guess that it is possible.
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Rather have levrone genetics than Ronnie any day. Levrone is still going....
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Another gifted natural athlete.
He's not natural anymore. That pic is not from when he was natural.
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Rather have levrone genetics than Ronnie any day. Levrone is still going....
Levrone didn't put his foot on the gas pedal on everything the way Coleman did. Levrone was smart in taking long breaks.
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Need to get blaha or vegangins in here to set the record straight.
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As sure as the Earth is flat and the Hebrews were black.
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:o
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Need to get blaha or vegangins in here to set the record straight.
they'll use those that chart and say he's in the suspect area of the chart and have inconclusive results. I think one must take into account other things unnatural about Ronnie, the weight lifts, the size he was able to get to, he ability to still reproduce while on copious amounts of peds and his hairline hasn't budged.
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Levrone didn't put his foot on the gas pedal on everything the way Coleman did. Levrone was smart in taking long breaks.
Smart?
Levrone was fucking lazy and didn't really want it bad enough... NOT that that's a bad thing in this "sport."
Levrone was notoriously lazy.
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Smart?
Levrone was fucking lazy and didn't really want it bad enough... NOT that that's a bad thing in this "sport."
Levrone was notoriously lazy.
His laziness paid off long term.
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Smart?
Levrone was fucking lazy and didn't really want it bad enough... NOT that that's a bad thing in this "sport."
Levrone was notoriously lazy.
He wasn't " lazy " he just wasn't as motivated , the story on him was he was a bodybuilder trying to be a musician or musician trying to be a bodybuilder. He would stop competing for 6 months at a clip chasing his musical career , what's legendary was him going from 170 to 240 in about 4 months
Flex was lazy , he definitely relied to heavily on his genetics.
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Puffy nipples of peace. Totally natural.
His nipples aren't puffy. You want to see a puffy nipple on Ronnie, look at the 1998 Mr. O. He had gyno there. Other than that, he's never shown any signs of gyno.
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It's hard to say. He obviously was natural up until 1990 when he joined Metroflex and by Brian Dodson's account was freaky then.
After watching those Tom Platz videos though Ronnie seemed like the one who pushed the most boundaries. He was laughing when he said he'd almost had problems using too much or at times when he couldn't get enough food like on a flight. So maybe in 1991 he was only using one compound or small amounts of a few and went up from there.
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It's hard to say. He obviously was natural up until 1990 when he joined Metroflex and by Brian Dodson's account was freaky then.
After watching those Tom Platz videos though Ronnie seemed like the one who pushed the most boundaries. He was laughing when he said he'd almost had problems using too much or at times when he couldn't get enough food like on a flight. So maybe in 1991 he was only using one compound or small amounts of a few and went up from there.
In those same Tom Platz videos he states he started out natural as a pro.
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This is Ronnie we're talking about. Let's keep that in mind.
:D Is that supposed to mean he's special snowflake? Ronnie was a police officer, so naturally he's going to admit to using illegal sterogs ::)
FYI: 99.99999% of people with REAL ELITE genetics don't even bother lifting weights or even realize they have elite genetics, or even give a shit about bodybuilding.
HTH
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Thread over
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:D Is that supposed to mean he's special snowflake? Ronnie was a police officer, so naturally he's going to admit to using illegal sterogs ::)
FYI: 99.99999% of people with REAL ELITE genetics don't even bother lifting weights or even realize they have elite genetics, or even give a shit about bodybuilding.
HTH
Can it really be said that Ronnie had anything other than elite genetics?
It doesn't matter if Ronnie ingested 100x more than anyone else. That would have only been a testament to his incredible genetics as well since he could live through it and look the way he did.
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Two things Texas was known for in the 80s and 90's. Steroids and XTC...Every high school football player was juiced to the gills and most of the XTC in the Country came from Israel to Texas...Ronnie natural? lolololol
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Two things Texas was known for in the 80s and 90's. Steroids and XTC...Every high school football player was juiced to the gills and most of the XTC in the Country came from Israel to Texas...Ronnie natural? lolololol
Ronald Dean Coleman is a genetic anomaly. Even Dorian said he believed Ronnie turn pro as a natural.
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Ronald Dean Coleman is a genetic anomaly. Even Dorian said he believed Ronnie turn pro as a natural.
Dorian is so insecure he made his girlfriend tattoo "Dorian's girl" on her own ass. I wouldn't listen to a word that guy says...
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Dorian is so insecure he made his girlfriend tattoo "Dorian's girl" on her own ass. I wouldn't listen to a word that guy says...
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This is Dorian we're talking about. Let's keep that in mind.
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Dorian is so insecure he made his girlfriend tattoo "Dorian's girl" on her own ass. I wouldn't listen to a word that guy says...
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LOL.. Why is he wearing that shirt?
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I Believe 100%.
1. The Earth is Flat
2. Nibiru is About to Collide with the Earth
3. God /Jesus is a Hebrew
4. Israelis are really Black men
5. The World Has already ended several Times
6. Greg Kovaks Was Natural
7. Big Lenny is also Natural & Sane
8. Dolly Parton Sleeps on Her Back
9. The Pope Is Catholic
10. Pigs Arse is pork
HTH
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He's not natural anymore. That pic is not from when he was natural.
Who is that dude?
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He wasn't " lazy " he just wasn't as motivated , the story on him was he was a bodybuilder trying to be a musician or musician trying to be a bodybuilder. He would stop competing for 6 months at a clip chasing his musical career , what's legendary was him going from 170 to 240 in about 4 months
Flex was lazy , he definitely relied to heavily on his genetics.
Paul Dillet was known to be lazy as well and use light weights believe it or not.
The other spectrum we have guys like Rich Gaspari, despite his poor genetics was an overachiever and came up with this through sheer determination:
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Haha for once I believe wiggs MAY Be right
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Based upon all my accumulated knowledge of genetics of the races, training, drugs and nutrition
...says the man who is black, doesn't train, smokes pot and live on coke and oreos ::)
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there's only one picture of ronnie here where he's natural, the one with a cast on his arm
damn some of you are morons
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:D Is that supposed to mean he's special snowflake? Ronnie was a police officer, so naturally he's going to admit to using illegal sterogs ::)
FYI: 99.99999% of people with REAL ELITE genetics don't even bother lifting weights or even realize they have elite genetics, or even give a shit about bodybuilding.
HTH
That's cause 99.9999 percent of the people with real elite genetics play a real professional sport and not bbing, even Phil said that. Bet he would have loved to play in the NBA rather than bbing
Phelps, bolt, Durant, Julio jones, just to name a few are guys with elite genetics and I don't mean on physiques either
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The guy with the best genetics currently is Dexter, 46 and still winning shows and his physique still looks fresh
Competing as a pro since 98 I believe till now and is still one of the best gotta be a record esp with the 5 Arnold's and a Olympia win and 2nd last year
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The guy with the best genetics currently is Dexter, 46 and still winning shows and his physique still looks fresh
Competing as a pro since 98 I believe till now and is still one of the best gotta be a record esp with the 5 Arnold's and a Olympia win and 2nd last year
Currently the record holder for most losses by an active competitor.
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Smart?
Levrone was fucking lazy and didn't really want it bad enough... NOT that that's a bad thing in this "sport."
Levrone was notoriously lazy.
Levrone main issue was alcohol imo. Still got away with it from his freak genetics :D
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Not natural Wiggs. Just pre-GH + Insulin.
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that chick above is hardcore -- throw a fucking table (a table), back off, handbag ward off 1st flying chair --> fucking arrow catch the second perfectly and slip the third.......better hope noone actually tried to get up close and finish it.....
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Wiggs.. Nah.
It isn't necessary the size that is questionable, it's holding the condition.
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Not natural Wiggs. Just pre-GH + Insulin.
this.
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I'm sorry he was natural. Let's remember this is Ronnie Coleman we're talking about here. Not Mike O'hearn. Ronnie has some of the greatest ability to build muscle that we've ever seen. Add in his training style, consistency, durability and have a mentor in Brian Dobson to guide you. I have no doubt Ronnie was natural from what I've seen. I've had my ear to walls on this subject a long time and the same thing keeps popping up. Ronnie was natural when he turned pro, it was a drug tested event. Of course there's always the possibility he could have went around it but with all due respect, we're talk about Ronnie and Brian not Barry Bonds and Victor Conte. Also this was 1991 alot harder to cheat drug test back then. The knowledge wasn't around like it is now.
Are you sure about this?
Have you talked to someone who WAS THERE, and can corroborate that urine samples were actually analized by a independent source. Are you absolutely sure of this?
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people who think Ronnie took GH and insulin and all of a sudden morphed the way that he did obviously have very limited experience of what these substances can do.
Look at how shallow he looks in his amateur days - if he'd been taking much of anything he'd have been way bigger than that with his genetics.
The only debate should be whether her was half natty or real natty.
We'll never know, but my buddy (a top 3 ASC placer) has told me in the past that the general consensus is that he was clean until he turned pro.
After all, RC having the smarts / hook ups to beat a drug test... ::)
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Elite Hebrew strength genetics of peace.
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Seriously a bunch of dumb asses in here.
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Lets keep in mind this is a man that still has the hairline of a 13 year old and was able to impregnate women consistently while winning Mr. Olympias. Where' not talk about your average joe here.
;D
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Amazed at the amount of stupidity there is with people in relation to this sort of thing still. Just wow.
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Every time when I think you've reached the peak of your stupidity, you somehow manage to raise the bar even higher. What a pathetic waste of air negroid.
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What you can prove and what you know for fact are entirely different. Only Ronnie knows the truth. And we all know bodybuilders lie.
Based on his build at that time, I am going to say that he was not natural. I will say that given his elite genetics, perhaps he was on less stuff than the average bodybuilder at that time. But that is even stretching it. But natural? Nope.
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I believe 100% Ronnie is natural here.
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I believe 100% Ronnie is natural here.
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Yea, his pecs have that "flatness" that natties have. Poor souls.
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Seriously a bunch of dumb asses in here.
People just like to re-write history is all.
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What you can prove and what you know for fact are entirely different. Only Ronnie knows the truth. And we all know bodybuilders lie.
Based on his build at that time, I am going to say that he was not natural. I will say that given his elite genetics, perhaps he was on less stuff than the average bodybuilder at that time. But that is even stretching it. But natural? Nope.
One of the only logical guys on gb :D
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Yea, his pecs have that "flatness" that natties have. Poor souls.
He may look flat due to being natural but he has achieved "muscle maturity".
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One of the only logical guys on gb :D
:D :D
The first line should have read, "What you believe and what you can prove are entirely different."
But you did get the gist of my post. ;D ;D ;D
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Waterlogged 50 mg of dianabol per day leading up to first bodybuilding contest of peace.
That was in college, correct?
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That was in college, correct?
He was in 7th grade.
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Based upon all my accumulated knowledge of genetics of the races, training, drugs and nutrition, I believe Ronnie was still a lifetime natural as he said he was and rumored to have been when he became a pro. He has superior Hebrew genetics. Ronnie is an example of the old saying "imagine if he was on steroids". When he did hop on steroids and everything else, he became Mr. Olympia.
Ronnie is the greatest lifetime natural of all time. Ohearn, Drug Miller, Ulyssess and Simeon Panda not so much on the natural side.
About as believable as anything you post, these days. ::)