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I know this comparison has been done before, but these are good photo comparisons. Hand together photo they look relatively equal. But the side chest, sort of looks like Phil is taking it.
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Lets please stop this nonsense. The comparison ends between these two when they turn around. We all know the money shot for winning the O is the bdb pose and that happens to be Kevin's worse pose, even in his prime. Phil slaughters him and it's not even close. Phil even wins in the back lat spread. While he's not wider than Kevin he's more detailed and conditioned. Phil is better than Levrone in the shots that really count. Kevin can't train 6 month out of the year and expect to get that kind of density.
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Lets please stop this nonsense. The comparison ends between these two when they turn around. We all know the money shot for winning the O is the bdb pose and that happens to be Kevin's worse pose, even in his prime. Phil slaughters him and it's not even close. Phil even wins in the back lat spread. While he's not wider than Kevin he's more detailed and conditioned. Phil is better than Levrone in the shots that really count. Kevin can't train 6 month out of the year and expect to get that kind of density.
I never said that Kevin had a better back than Phil, and never insinuated that Kevin can hold his own in back poses. I was referring to these two poses specifically, hence the pictures. Its quite obvious that Kevin's back is no match for Phils.
Kevin will most likely crack top 10 at the Mr. O just for nostalgia purposes. They are hyping him up too much to give him less than that. As long as he beats Branch, Im a happy camper!
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I never said that Kevin had a better back than Phil, and never insinuated that Kevin can hold his own in back poses. I was referring to these two poses specifically, hence the pictures. Its quite obvious that Kevin's back is no match for Phils.
Kevin will most likely crack top 10 at the Mr. O just for nostalgia purposes. They are hyping him up too much to give him less than that. As long as he beats Branch, Im a happy camper!
Well then my apologies my good man, I mistook you for a nutcase. My bad. :)
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Kevin destroys Philbo every way possible.
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Well then my apologies my good man, I mistook you for a nutcase. My bad. :)
No problem. :) :)
Though, its really not a fair comparison, since those are obviously old pics of Kevin. Back in the day, Kevin could hold his own from the front against a prime Phil. But even Kevin loses when he turns around when compared to Phil, even in his prime.
But a CURRENT Levrone, well, we shall see. Its obvious he won't even beat Phil from the front, given his age. Nonetheless, it will be fun to see him on stage.
Again, as long as he beats Branch!
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Kevin destroys Philbo every way possible.
Please stop. You can argue all the poses but the back ones. And Phil kills him in the most important pose since 1993 the back double bicep pose. Matter of fact the only people that have an equal or better bdb than Phil is Ronnie, Dorian or Flex. And they all need to be at their best.
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Kevin destroys Philbo every way possible.
Definitely not from the back.
I do think that a prime Kevin has better symmetry and flow better than a prime Phil. Phil's physique just seems "off." There is no flow, no symmetry, no proportion. Its just ridiculously big arms. So, in that sense, Kevin wins (back in the day).
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Kevin destroys Philbo every way possible.
This
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Chris Cormier should make a comeback, a bber that in his prime didn't have any notable weaknesses. Chris even had a great back double biceps
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This is not destroying Phil....
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=610491.0;attach=678674;image)
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This is not destroying Phil....
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=610491.0;attach=678674;image)
As previously stated, as long as this beats Branch
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Kevin wins in real life.. I'll take 2.0 heaths wide any day, plus he looks much better face/presence wise. Not to mention the personality, Phil argues with his haters & comes out as a disgusting douchy asshole.
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Looks like Kevin never trained his back a single day in his life in these pics. Wow.
Just think when he guest poses at the Olympia he will look much worse than this.
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hahaha I hope this poor delusional fool is not seriously stepping on the Olympia stage this fall destroying his own legacy :D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=610491.0;attach=678674;image) (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NBjTduUbQUo/UjpWAfVQeeI/AAAAAAAAGdc/NLHqzIcy6Vk/s640/Kai-Grene-vs-Phil-Heath-2012-Olympia-Back.jpg)
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Levrone is 100 times better imo
In overall appeal and aestethics and flow
Better representative, more interesting to watch
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Lets not forget that there are other muscle growing agents available today. Who knows how Levvy will respond to them.
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Lets not forget that there are other muscle growing agents available today. Who knows how Levvy will respond to them.
Excatly !
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Kevin is a thousand times better than that Phil-ooh-Pin-Poo.
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Looks like Kevin never trained his back a single day in his life in these pics. Wow.
Just think when he guest poses at the Olympia he will look much worse than this.
That's why he will be guest posing.
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Levrone just doesn't have enough striations in his glutes. :-\
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Kevin is a thousand times better than that Phil-ooh-Pin-Poo.
Phil after reading your post
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Kevin destroys Philbo every way possible.
Yes, there is simply no contest.
Kev dwarfs Heath.
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Yes, there is simply no contest.
Kev dwarfs Heath.
(http://i37.tinypic.com/25p0nqv.jpg)
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Levrone is 100 times better imo
In overall appeal and aestethics and flow
Better representative, more interesting to watch
Yes, much better structure than bloofy Pill Heath
It is times like these (when Kev is competing) that makes me proud of being black.
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Yes, much better structure than bloofy Pill Heath
It is times like these (when Kev is competing) that makes me proud of being black.
Nibiru and Black Jesus (Tyler Perry) be praised!
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Yes, much better structure than bloofy Pill Heath
It is times like these (when Kev is competing) that makes me proud of being black.
Yes, and bb is not sheer mass then Ruhl is 10 time mr o
Philsuline never looked this good ever
(http://trainingday.dk/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Kevin-Levrone-awesome-physique.jpg)
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(http://www.yoummisr.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Kevin-Levrone-bodybuilder-Facebook-best-supplements-for-gaining-muscle-Bodybuilding-Fitness-Your-Guide-to-Building-Muscle-Supplements-Bodybuilder-Photos-youm-misr-44.jpg)
Phil never came close to this
And never will with his gut and so-so lines and proportions
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Maryland Muscle Machine vs The Colorado Bloof Machine.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=610605.0;attach=678704;image)
'98 noc... IMO Kevin's absolute best but that's what it takes for him to beat Heath outright. He'd be lucky to get him on one or two mandatories now. Still hoping for top 10.
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'98 noc... IMO Kevin's absolute best but that's what it takes for him to beat Heath outright. He'd be lucky to get him on one or two mandatories now. Still hoping for top 10.
Naw he wont beat Phil, but it will be fun to see what he can do
But no matter if he wins, he probably will look more aestethic
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Yes, and bb is not sheer mass then Ruhl is 10 time mr o
Philsuline never looked this good ever
(http://trainingday.dk/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Kevin-Levrone-awesome-physique.jpg)
True. Overall Kevin at his Best is Far better than Phil at his best.
Better structure, Better aesthetics , Better Muscle quality , Better shape,
Phil is oh so narrow -- He does have Huge Round Full arms & His Back Is Good.
His Back at His Best Beats Kev's at his best that I will give him.
Is Kevin Really Likely to Beat Phil Now he is 51/52 as much as I'd like it to be,
No It isn't a very Likeky outcome.
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LeBron kills him in density and quality.
Any experienced eye can see that.
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Aesthetics (Kevin) vs ass-whole (Phildo).
I hope Levrone does well.
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Aesthetics (Kevin) vs ass-whole (Phildo).
I hope Levrone does well.
If it was about asthetics flex, Shawn, Kevin should have won but..... They could never win the sandow losing to Ronnie, Dorian, Jay
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If it was about asthetics flex, Shawn, Kevin should have won but..... They could never win the sandow losing to Ronnie, Dorian, Jay
True. That was then. Hopefully now will prove different. Yeah...I seriously doubt it.
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Phil never came close to this
And never will with his gut and so-so lines and proportions
Wow. Damn.
plus Kevin had a swagger onstage that is totally missing which is why I think so many people are so hyped to see him compete again. His hair was also a win.
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If it was about asthetics flex, Shawn, Kevin should have won but..... They could never win the sandow losing to Ronnie, Dorian, Jay
JAY NEVER beat any quality players in the 2000's. He did NOT compete against the best of the best in the 90's when those guys were in their PRIME. To even compare a GAY the Fridge with the worst biceps and 0 striations GUTLER to Flex, Shawn and Kevin in their 90's form just shows how ignorant and biased you are.
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Wow. Damn.
plus Kevin had a swagger onstage that is totally missing which is why I think so many people are so hyped to see him compete again. His hair was also a win.
And people try to compare bloofy Pill heath with Kev, inconceivable!
Pill would dream of Kevs structure , aesthetics and swagger of peace!
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JAY NEVER beat any quality players in the 2000's. He did NOT compete against the best of the best in the 90's when those guys were in their PRIME. To even compare a GAY the Fridge with the worst biceps and 0 striations GUTLER to Flex, Shawn and Kevin in their 90's form just shows how ignorant and biased you are.
Haha I'm stating facts! Those 3 u mentioned never won the sandow, all I'm saying is Jay, Ronnie, and Dorian have, whether they should or shouldn't have won is another story
Reading comprehension def isn't your thing, all I'm stating is if it's about asthetics then those 3 should have won but that's not the case cause Dorian has 6 sandows, Ronnie 8, and Jay 4...... No need to get your thong in a bunch
Bbing is serious business to some haha
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Lets not forget that there are other muscle growing agents available today. Who knows how Levvy will respond to them.
From watching his Facebook clip on prepping for this Olympia, I think he's sticking to his old routine for gear. "I have some ways to get bigger." Seems like he's not going to venture out and mess with other things that he didn't take back in the day.
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Reality check:
Levrone doesn't care if if comes in last place. His only concern is boosting supplement sales. He is worried about his financial future, not his Olympia placing.
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Reality check:
Levrone doesn't care if if comes in last place. His only concern is boosting supplement sales. He is worried about his financial future, not his Olympia placing.
We all know that.
Even still, his structure and aesthetics is far superior to bloofy Pill Heath.
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And people try to compare bloofy Pill heath with Kev, inconceivable!
Pill would dream of Kevs structure , aesthetics and swagger of peace!
And don't forget the hair! He would dream of having Kevin's hair of peace!
You guys keep talking about supplement sales but I don't think that's it. I bet he was offered BIG bucks to do this by the IFBB. This is all people are talking about. From the delusional people who think he will win to the skeptics (like myself) who think everyone has gone crazy.
Even if Kevin looks horrible onstage if he actually goes through with this? I bet he will be the darling of the weekend and nobody will care who wins.
From a pr standpoint this look brilliant short term but if you have to resort to these types of stunts every year it won't be long until it's confirmed this is like wrestling.
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Even if Kevin looks horrible onstage if he actually goes through with this? I bet he will be the darling of the weekend and nobody will care who wins.
From a pr standpoint this look brilliant short term but if you have to resort to these types of stunts every year it won't be long until it's confirmed this is like wrestling.
He will be the darling of the weekend to everyone, especially to Earl.
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Levrone looks better overall, more aesthetic, narrow waist and balance.
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He will be the darling of the weekend to everyone, especially to Earl.
If you're going to cream your pants may as well be for someone like Kevin.
I actually said wow and damn at that above photo. He's packing and has the Total package I definitely would not say that about anyone today.
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But, Phil Heath do 100 pound Dumbbells in your face, though?
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If you're going to cream your pants may as well be for someone like Kevin.
I actually said wow and damn at that above photo. He's packing and has the Total package I definitely would not say that about anyone today.
Out loud? :D
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And don't forget the hair! He would dream of having Kevin's hair of peace!
You guys keep talking about supplement sales but I don't think that's it. I bet he was offered BIG bucks to do this by the IFBB. This is all people are talking about. From the delusional people who think he will win to the skeptics (like myself) who think everyone has gone crazy.
Even if Kevin looks horrible onstage if he actually goes through with this? I bet he will be the darling of the weekend and nobody will care who wins.
From a pr standpoint this look brilliant short term but if you have to resort to these types of stunts every year it won't be long until it's confirmed this is like wrestling.
U can say all that from a "fans" perspective about Kevin but in Kevin's mind and recent interview not winning a sandow has really got to him, just like Shawn. Kevin points out Phil has 5 and u can def see it got to Kevin. This is from his perspective. Sometimes the cards just isn't in thier favor like flex and Shawn and Cormier should have won one Arnold Classic
Cue in "danimal" ;D
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U can say all that from a "fans" perspective about Kevin but in Kevin's mind and recent interview not winning a sandow has really got to him, just like Shawn. Kevin points out Phil has 5 and u can def see it got to Kevin. This is from his perspective. Sometimes the cards just isn't in thier favor like flex and Shawn and Cormier should have won one Arnold Classic
Cue in "danimal" ;D
Based on a convo I had last year, I can see why. A lot of those guys feel like the current group sucks and they don't have Sandows while the current group can show up half assed and win. Some were really irritated with how nonchalant the competitors seemed. Maybe Kevin feels like he should come back and show them how it's done. I would be more optimistic if he were ten years younger.
I mean yeah it's not like it was but isn't everything watered down. People win music awards with no talent and can brag they have 50 Grammys while someone like Prince has 7. They won't be better than prince but due to low standards they've got the award count.
I'll give it to him though: Kevin is bringing back the excitement. Even his social media videos are better than some of the current group. His confidence and intensity is pretty inspiring.
It's no wonder he's got the fans fired up. He should grow his hair back though!! I was always a fan with his hair!!
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Based on a convo I had last year, I can see why. A lot of those guys feel like the current group sucks and they don't have Sandows while the current group can show up half assed and win. Some were really irritated with how nonchalant the competitors seemed. Maybe Kevin feels like he should come back and show them how it's done. I would be more optimistic if he were ten years younger.
I mean yeah it's not like it was but isn't everything watered down. People win music awards with no talent and can brag they have 50 Grammys while someone like Prince has 7. They won't be better than prince but due to low standards they've got the award count.
I'll give it to him though: Kevin is bringing back the excitement. Even his social media videos are better than some of the current group. His confidence and intensity is pretty inspiring.
It's no wonder he's got the fans fired up. He should grow his hair back though!! I was always a fan with his hair!!
I agree, I grew up in the late 90's with Kevin and seeing Chris and flex, Prince, Gunther, Tito Raymond and ton others train, moved to Texas and even saw Ronnie prep for the 2003 O. Sucks they never got any sandows cause of the timing and era they were in
At least Prince did get 7 Grammys which is a sandow in the bbing world, can't be said about the bbers I mentioned unfortunately
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And people try to compare bloofy Pill heath with Kev, inconceivable!
Pill would dream of Kevs structure , aesthetics and swagger of peace!
This.
They don't have the experience to differentiate
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I agree, I grew up in the late 90's with Kevin and seeing Chris and flex, Prince, Gunther, Tito Raymond and ton others train, moved to Texas and even saw Ronnie prep for the 2003 O. Sucks they never got any sandows cause of the timing and era they were in
At least Prince did get 7 Grammys which is a sandow in the bbing world, can't be said about the bbers I mentioned unfortunately
Levrone at least got to compete with some of the best, the competition was on another level, the current line up are a joke in comparison, a complete mess.
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hahaha I hope this poor delusional fool is not seriously stepping on the Olympia stage this fall destroying his own legacy :D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=610491.0;attach=678674;image) (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NBjTduUbQUo/UjpWAfVQeeI/AAAAAAAAGdc/NLHqzIcy6Vk/s640/Kai-Grene-vs-Phil-Heath-2012-Olympia-Back.jpg)
this was good enough for 2nd at the olympia in 2000, many believed he should've beaten ronnie
i haven't seen one person argue that bodybuilding is better today than it was back then, so if that body got 2nd in 2000 why can't it get at least 2nd today?
does anybody honestly think kai is a better bodybuilder than Mr. Levrone?
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does anybody honestly think kai is a better bodybuilder than Mr. Levrone?
Affeman.
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this was good enough for 2nd at the olympia in 2000, many believed he should've beaten ronnie
i haven't seen one person argue that bodybuilding is better today than it was back then, so if that body got 2nd in 2000 why can't it get at least 2nd today?
does anybody honestly think kai is a better bodybuilder than Mr. Levrone?
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Today it seems to just be about maximum size everywhere without any thoughts for balance or aesthetics.
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Like Phil, Kai destroys Kevin from the rear.
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Like Phil, Kai destroys Phil from the rear.
Just like Phil destroys Phil?
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Kev-Phil-Ramy. Just for the hell of it. Kev wins, but had superior lighting at that Grand Prix show. Show a picture of Ronnie at the same show, which he won.
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That's one small waist on (Ramy) for his size! :o
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Kai & Phil, with similar lighting and black backround as Kevin at the Grand Prix show. Still I think the lighting was better at Kevin's show. (Lighting & Backround ) make a world of difference!
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Also in the Kev, Phil, Ramy pic I posted. There are subtle differences in the way all three are hitting that shot. By Kevin hitting that transitional pose better than Phil & Ramy by having his arms in closer to his Quads. (Actually a little over them) makes his already huge delts and triceps look bigger. If Phil did not have his arms out so wide, he would have looked wider as well as his triceps and delts looking more noticeable therefore better for him. Kev is the better poser.
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Phil will be way more conditioned than Kevin, due to Kevin's 10 year layoff, Phil has been seasoned for 5 years straight and has been training all year! This isn't 1995 it's 2016! Good to see Kevin back but it's just a different game now!
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Based on a convo I had last year, I can see why. A lot of those guys feel like the current group sucks and they don't have Sandows while the current group can show up half assed and win. Some were really irritated with how nonchalant the competitors seemed. Maybe Kevin feels like he should come back and show them how it's done. I would be more optimistic if he were ten years younger.
I mean yeah it's not like it was but isn't everything watered down. People win music awards with no talent and can brag they have 50 Grammys while someone like Prince has 7. They won't be better than prince but due to low standards they've got the award count.
I'll give it to him though: Kevin is bringing back the excitement. Even his social media videos are better than some of the current group. His confidence and intensity is pretty inspiring.
It's no wonder he's got the fans fired up. He should grow his hair back though!! I was always a fan with his hair!!
how do you like kevins hair in this pic?
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5617011&d=1365649626)
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how do you like kevins hair in this pic?
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5617011&d=1365649626)
To be honest the hair was the second thing I noticed. Damn!!!
The hair was part of the swag.
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I dont like Phils last year shape. But, I have to admit that Kevin has zero chance to beat him.
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Kevin will be sick or injured two weeks out, or relegated to guest posing! Even with the weakest top 6 Mr O lineup ever!!!!
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To be honest the hair was the second thing I noticed. Damn!!!
The hair was part of the swag.
can't wait to see what type of "package" Kevin will be bringing to the O this year
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can't wait to see what type of "package" Kevin will be bringing to the O this year
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Me TOO ;D ;D
Told ya he reminded me of Kai Greene except not AS bad and much better looking. :-X :-X
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(http://forum.ronnie.cz/images/uploads/img_1226419331_1.jpg)
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4585633&d=1340385109)
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Good Lord. I wonder if he stuffs. Judging by all the factors involved,
I doubt it No wonder dude is so crazy and thinks he can do whatever he wants.
Nobody these days has the hair or the Total package. Even 15 years older than everyone else, Kevin could pull the most women.
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Levrone liked Booster Briefs back in the day -
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=292092.0;attach=336541).
They were a popular product in Muscle Mag back in the day.
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Levrone liked Booster Briefs back in the day -
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=292092.0;attach=336541).
They were a popular product in Muscle Mag back in the day.
Oh my goodness :D :D
False advertising but it's all in the details! I wonder why nobody uses this today?
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I think the company that originally made them went out of business. They always give me a chuckle, but some thing in the middle padding wise wouldn't be bad. Certainly better than looking flat :-\ :).
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Oh my goodness :D :D
False advertising but it's all in the details! I wonder why nobody uses this today?
Inventor?
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Inventor?
No way. I wouldn't want to promote false advertising! At this point that's even more impressive than his hair!!
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Even if he doesn't place well, it will be great to a real bodybuilder on stage again.
To remind people what pro's are supposed to look like.
Instead of the bloofy insulin look we have today.
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Even if he doesn't place well, it will be great to a real bodybuilder on stage again.
To remind people what pro's are supposed to look like.
Instead of the bloofy insulin look we have today.
I think this is what all of the excitement and hype is about. Remember when the guys actually looked good? Remember when they actually had posing routines and worked the stage? Remember when they had awesome hair?????
Last year's Olympia was terrible and lackluster. I bet that's what spurred Kevin to comeback. He saw that and thought: "I could have gotten there and won the Sandow if THAT was the competition." He would have been right too.