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Title: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: The True Adonis on June 28, 2016, 06:42:59 PM
Why those particular lifts with a barbell?  Why not a standard machine of some sort instead.  No spotters needed and the strongest will still emerge.
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: Chadwick The Beta on June 28, 2016, 06:48:17 PM
Why those particular lifts with a barbell?  Why not a standard machine of some sort instead.  No spotters needed and the strongest will still emerge.

Powerlifters are a strange breed.  Usually shaved heads to conceal epic male pattern baldness, goatees grown to hide multiple chins and/or turkey necks, espousing hatred for blacks yet possessing an encyclopedic knowledge of Shane Diesel and Lexington Steele videos.

Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: The True Adonis on June 28, 2016, 06:58:10 PM
Powerlifters are a strange breed.  Usually shaved heads to conceal epic male pattern baldness, goatees grown to hide multiple chins and/or turkey necks, espousing hatred for blacks yet possessing an encyclopedic knowledge of Shane Diesel and Lexington Steele videos.


They also like to waddle around and stink.  They usually go for a tattoo or ten and then when they get injured, they start looking into crossfit or those stupid quasi-"patriotic"-bizzaro-"mud-runs" which feature grown men in tight shorts rolling around in mire behaving like a crazed homosexual starved of cock.

They also like to wear backpacks everywhere they go.
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: Nirvana on June 28, 2016, 09:26:54 PM
Phil Heath can press 4 plates on the hammer strength machine.
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: Nirvana on June 28, 2016, 09:28:19 PM
I would be interested to see a cable crossover world record.
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: WalterWhite on June 28, 2016, 09:40:34 PM
Phil Heath can press 4 plates on the hammer strength machine.

I saw him do dumbbell curls with 60's.
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on June 28, 2016, 09:40:59 PM
They should make it ten different lifts and make it like the Decathlon.
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: visualizeperfection on June 28, 2016, 09:45:19 PM
For once I approve of this epic troll job by TA.


I'm sure the hoards of 30%+ body fat powerlifters are too busy "eating to grow"  or they would be melting down.
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: Erik C on June 28, 2016, 09:48:59 PM
No one could agree on which machines, and brands, would be used.
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: SF1900 on June 28, 2016, 10:24:42 PM
No one could agree on which machines, and brands, would be used.

Covers chest press, squat and deadlift, without using free weights. Still tests strength and reduce injury.

(http://anybodyfit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Hammer-Strength-Plate-Loaded-Iso-Lateral-Super-Incline-Press-NBG-500.png)

(http://ep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-49734789638250/york-sts-power-front-squat-hack-squat-machine-8.gif)

(http://power-lift.com/gallery_prod_all/proplateload/proplateload-squat-lunge/photos/IMG_0164_copy.jpg)
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: polychronopolous on June 28, 2016, 10:37:57 PM
Covers chest press, squat and deadlift, without using free weights. Still tests strength and reduce injury.

(http://anybodyfit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Hammer-Strength-Plate-Loaded-Iso-Lateral-Super-Incline-Press-NBG-500.png)

(http://ep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-49734789638250/york-sts-power-front-squat-hack-squat-machine-8.gif)

(http://power-lift.com/gallery_prod_all/proplateload/proplateload-squat-lunge/photos/IMG_0164_copy.jpg)
A Thinking Man's barbell.
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: SF1900 on June 28, 2016, 10:44:31 PM
A Thinking Man's barbell.

 ;D ;D ;D

(http://ambitiondaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Thinking-Man.jpg)
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: Master Blaster on June 28, 2016, 10:55:49 PM
Isn't there a John Henry vibe going on here? A sort of man vs. "The Machine" and all that insinuates?

A post centurion Anglo-fied "Bat Man" holding out against the (yellow horde) technocracy.
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: Julio Ceasar on June 28, 2016, 11:18:31 PM
They should have a weight limit in powerlifting to reduce these fat fucks. 190 pound maximum weight.

Then we would have healthy fit powerlifters with low bodyfat looking like gymnasts. No overeaten pigs!
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: phreak on June 28, 2016, 11:19:33 PM
Why those particular lifts with a barbell?  Why not a standard machine of some sort instead.  No spotters needed and the strongest will still emerge.

Tradition. This is key in all iron sports. Olympic lifting traditionally has a focus on technical mastery and style, powerlifting a tradition of incorporating at least two of the three currently contested lifts, bodybuilding a tradition of taking cocks up the ass for money.
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: local hero on June 29, 2016, 12:04:58 AM
They should have a weight limit in powerlifting to reduce these fat fucks. 190 pound maximum weight.

Then we would have healthy fit powerlifters with low bodyfat looking like gymnasts. No overeaten pigs!


Pfffft.... Id hang my self if i weighed 190, you lack of size sickens me
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: falco on June 29, 2016, 02:15:52 AM
Everyone has its own biomechanics. Some like wide grip benches, some close, some underhandgrip... Machines won't allow for minor athele preferences and needs.
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on June 29, 2016, 03:08:43 AM
Top guys in powerlifting are leaner now than even five hears ago here in Ireland.
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: dj181 on June 29, 2016, 03:09:38 AM
They should have a weight limit in powerlifting to reduce these fat fucks. 190 pound maximum weight.

Then we would have healthy fit powerlifters with low bodyfat looking like gymnasts. No overeaten pigs!

good point

typically the strongest dudes per bodyweight are the '98ers and 220's, and alot of them still have fairly aesthetic physiques

Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: rocket on June 29, 2016, 06:17:12 AM
Most powerlifters are 220 and under.  This idea you have that the blimps are the norm is based solely on that you've watched vids of these specimens more.
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: Fallsview on June 29, 2016, 06:25:34 AM
Powerlifters are just like runners. Always posting on Instagram/Facebook/Twitter about their runs/compitions, their food intake, what they lifted/ran etc. etc. Powerlifters usually look like those TeleTubbies, converse, eating everything and bragging about it. Buzz cut, beard typical. Tattoos.




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Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: Erik C on June 29, 2016, 08:52:41 AM
Covers chest press, squat and deadlift, without using free weights. Still tests strength and reduce injury.

(http://anybodyfit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Hammer-Strength-Plate-Loaded-Iso-Lateral-Super-Incline-Press-NBG-500.png)

(http://ep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-49734789638250/york-sts-power-front-squat-hack-squat-machine-8.gif)

(http://power-lift.com/gallery_prod_all/proplateload/proplateload-squat-lunge/photos/IMG_0164_copy.jpg)

I don't agree!
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: njflex on June 29, 2016, 09:25:51 AM
I don't agree!
BEN AFFLECK PULLING SOME BIG WEIGHTS...^^^^
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: HavoX on June 29, 2016, 09:51:18 AM
Some bros on here need to change up their macros if they think pushing or pulling a fully loaded hammer strength machine is a demonstration of power
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: SF1900 on June 29, 2016, 09:52:41 AM
Some bros on here need to change up their macros if they think pushing or pulling a fully loaded hammer strength machine is a demonstration of power

(http://cdn-maf3.heartyhosting.com/sites/muscleandfitness.com/files/styles/full_node_image_1090x614/public/Heath_0.jpg?itok=0z7khMW9)
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: The True Adonis on June 29, 2016, 09:55:53 AM
(http://cdn-maf3.heartyhosting.com/sites/muscleandfitness.com/files/styles/full_node_image_1090x614/public/Heath_0.jpg?itok=0z7khMW9)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=589168.0;attach=664709;image)
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: SF1900 on June 29, 2016, 10:05:33 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=589168.0;attach=664709;image)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_-_dStEZJLa4/TQq1iflQzHI/AAAAAAAAAPE/D45yVu7kE5w/s1600/trololo-lolo-trololo.jpg)
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: liquid_c on June 29, 2016, 10:16:33 AM
You're right about a lot of things.  Yes, many powerlifters in the heavier divisions, especially at the top end of 308-SHW are carrying way too much bodyfat and are extremely unhealthy.  They usually have very high blood pressure, horrific crippling lower back pumps every time they try to workout, get winded walking up a flight of stairs, sleep apnea etc.  I've seen several with the tell tale dark/shiny/pitted edema on the lower legs showing heart issues.  Some of the honest ones admit this and know it is horrible for them but admit they are doing it just to be able to lift more weight and hopefully will lose weight when they stop competing.  They literally only care about their total and are willing to wreck their health to just get a few more lbs.  They can be as bad as any bodybuilder on social media.  Posting every workout they do involving one of the big 3 lifts of their exact poundages and reps day after day after day.  

Others are in complete denial and scared to lose so much as a couple of pounds for fear of getting weaker.  Many have tried losing weight only to find their strength start to drop, often due to leverage/support changes and not muscle loss.  They then go into panic mode and start eating very heavy again. They post pictures of their nosebleeds after a hard workout thinking it's "hardcore" when in reality it means you are being stupid and very unhealthy.  They deep down know this too but are in denial.  You'd be amazed at the amount of stimulants and quick acting drugs many of them take on meet day.  

However powerlifting has been slowly changing and in the divisions up to 275, and even some lower 308's, there have been more and more successful powerlifters staying relativity lean, doing cardio and actually looking strong and not just like a big fat dude walking down the street.   Hopefully this trend will continue.  I've been seen it more and more and it looks like many are wising up.  
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: _bruce_ on June 29, 2016, 12:13:03 PM
I would be interested to see a cable crossover world record.

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: Royalty on June 29, 2016, 01:12:26 PM
Covers chest press, squat and deadlift, without using free weights. Still tests strength and reduce injury.

(http://anybodyfit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Hammer-Strength-Plate-Loaded-Iso-Lateral-Super-Incline-Press-NBG-500.png)

(http://ep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-49734789638250/york-sts-power-front-squat-hack-squat-machine-8.gif)

(http://power-lift.com/gallery_prod_all/proplateload/proplateload-squat-lunge/photos/IMG_0164_copy.jpg)

Everyone would max out the loading areas on those machines. The machine's plate loading area would have to be altered
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: BB on June 29, 2016, 01:51:57 PM
You'll never see it because of tradition, cost, and a few other logistical reasons. Also part of the fun is the element of danger. Part of the majesty of a #1000 squat, etc.... is all the elements that go into producing it, you'll lose a lot of that with machines.

The best option is a Monolift with chain or strap safety arrangements or the jerk box type stands guys like Blaine Sumner use -

www.instagram.com/p/BHLbG5ujPpy/?hl=en .

.
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: Fortress on June 29, 2016, 04:23:54 PM
This thread rules.
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: Wiggs on June 29, 2016, 04:32:00 PM
Powerlifters are a strange breed.  Usually shaved heads to conceal epic male pattern baldness, goatees grown to hide multiple chins and/or turkey necks, espousing hatred for blacks yet possessing an encyclopedic knowledge of Shane Diesel and Lexington Steele videos.



lolololololol
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: Irongrip400 on June 29, 2016, 05:43:07 PM
Covers chest press, squat and deadlift, without using free weights. Still tests strength and reduce injury.

(http://anybodyfit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Hammer-Strength-Plate-Loaded-Iso-Lateral-Super-Incline-Press-NBG-500.png)

(http://ep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-49734789638250/york-sts-power-front-squat-hack-squat-machine-8.gif)

(http://power-lift.com/gallery_prod_all/proplateload/proplateload-squat-lunge/photos/IMG_0164_copy.jpg)

You see that plate bro? It's an iron grip...
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: SF1900 on June 29, 2016, 05:45:51 PM
Everyone would max out the loading areas on those machines. The machine's plate loading area would have to be altered

If Phil Heath can't max out on it, then no one can.
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: SF1900 on June 29, 2016, 05:54:26 PM
You see that plate bro? It's an iron grip...

For the Iron Soul.
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: The True Adonis on June 29, 2016, 05:54:45 PM
You're right about a lot of things.  Yes, many powerlifters in the heavier divisions, especially at the top end of 308-SHW are carrying way too much bodyfat and are extremely unhealthy.  They usually have very high blood pressure, horrific crippling lower back pumps every time they try to workout, get winded walking up a flight of stairs, sleep apnea etc.  I've seen several with the tell tale dark/shiny/pitted edema on the lower legs showing heart issues.  Some of the honest ones admit this and know it is horrible for them but admit they are doing it just to be able to lift more weight and hopefully will lose weight when they stop competing.  They literally only care about their total and are willing to wreck their health to just get a few more lbs.  They can be as bad as any bodybuilder on social media.  Posting every workout they do involving one of the big 3 lifts of their exact poundages and reps day after day after day.  

Others are in complete denial and scared to lose so much as a couple of pounds for fear of getting weaker.  Many have tried losing weight only to find their strength start to drop, often due to leverage/support changes and not muscle loss.  They then go into panic mode and start eating very heavy again. They post pictures of their nosebleeds after a hard workout thinking it's "hardcore" when in reality it means you are being stupid and very unhealthy.  They deep down know this too but are in denial.  You'd be amazed at the amount of stimulants and quick acting drugs many of them take on meet day.  

However powerlifting has been slowly changing and in the divisions up to 275, and even some lower 308's, there have been more and more successful powerlifters staying relativity lean, doing cardio and actually looking strong and not just like a big fat dude walking down the street.   Hopefully this trend will continue.  I've been seen it more and more and it looks like many are wising up.  
No human should weigh even near 275 lbs unless they are 7 ft tall or over.
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: The Ugly on June 29, 2016, 06:04:16 PM
Off topic, but I'd take an old school vertical press/hack squat over Hammer Strength's any day. But I dig their back machines.
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: Bevo on June 29, 2016, 06:08:36 PM
Powerlifters are a strange breed.  Usually shaved heads to conceal epic male pattern baldness, goatees grown to hide multiple chins and/or turkey necks, espousing hatred for blacks yet possessing an encyclopedic knowledge of Shane Diesel and Lexington Steele videos.



Hahaha
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: Tapeworm on June 29, 2016, 07:17:20 PM
Uh because we'd lose.  Machines can easily lift more than humans dumbass.
Title: Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 29, 2016, 07:57:11 PM
I'm a fan of Olympic lifting to judge the best in iron sports. There are no skillful but weak Olympic champs. Actually Power Lifting is misnamed. It should be called strength lifting. Olympic lifting should be called power lifting since power from a physics point of view is the most important factor in that athletic sport.  Power lifting also has to many tricks from crazy arches, bench and squat apparel gear, shallow squats and finding the easiest way to cut the range of motion like a sumo deadlift.