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Clinton’s lead over Trump shrinks dramatically
McClatchy/Marist/The State ^ | 7/13/2016 | David Lightman
Posted on 7/13/2016, 10:33:16 AM by usafa92
CLEVELAND Hillary Clinton’s lead over Donald Trump has withered to 3 percentage points, signaling their battle for the White House has become too close to call heading into the two major-party national conventions, according to a new McClatchy-Marist poll.
Clinton, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, now leads Trump by 42 to 39 percent in a head-to-head matchup. While Republicans and Democrats are solidly behind their candidates, independents are divided, 36 percent for Clinton, 33 percent for Trump – and 23 percent undecided.
Clinton does somewhat better in a four-way race, topping Trump 40 to 35 percent. Libertarian Gary Johnson has 10 percent support, while the Green Party’s Jill Stein has 5 percent.
Either way, Clinton’s support has slipped noticeably, particularly in the one-on-one matchup with Trump. It was the first time her support had dropped below 50 percent in polls going back a year.
Her numbers plunged as the controversy over her private email server while secretary of state dominated political news. On July 5, the poll’s first day, FBI Director James Comey recommended that Clinton not be charged but termed her aides and her “extremely careless’’ in their handling of classified material. Two days later, Comey testified before a House of Representatives committee.
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Might get a bump out of the convention but she'll have 3-4 points over him to atleast the debates....then he either chokes her on national TV or he looks like the idiot he is.
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Might get a bump out of the convention but she'll have 3-4 points over him to atleast the debates....then he either chokes her on national TV or he looks like the idiot he is.
His tone the last few days seems a lot better.
I'm probably voting for 3rd party - but i still hate that evil CVNT and want her to lose so badly i am still open to possibly voting for him at the end of the day.
Hillary is a disgusting evil witch and she enables all the scum of society just like the present douchebag.
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His tone the last few days seems a lot better.
I'm probably voting for 3rd party - but i still hate that evil girl and want her to lose so badly i am still open to possibly voting for him at the end of the day.
Hillary is a disgusting evil witch and she enables all the scum of society just like the present douchebag.
Trump just might beat her.....He is ahead in a lot of states where she should be leading.......and hes very passionate about his stand on the issues which she seems to lack....I have to be honest there is a little part of me that wants to vote for him as well...as irrational as that sounds
As for you, I think you actually WILL vote for him...his views and yours are IDENTICAL
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Trump just might beat her.....He is ahead in a lot of states where she should be leading.......and hes very passionate about his stand on the issues which she seems to lack....I have to be honest there is a little part of me that wants to vote for him as well...as irrational as that sounds
As for you, I think you actually WILL vote for him...his views and yours are IDENTICAL
Fat Hillary and her cabal of wierdos need to be defeated
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Ad Spending Update: Clinton Outspends Trump $57M to $4M
NBC ^ | 13 Jul 2016
Posted on 07/13/2016 8:04:51 AM PDT by mandaladon
Hillary Clinton and her allies continue to outspend Donald Trump and his backers over the airwaves by a 15-to-1 margin, according to ad-spending data from SMG Delta.
Team Clinton has spent $57 million on ads so far in the general election -- $25 million coming from the campaign and another $32 million from pro-Clinton Super PACs.
By comparison, Team Trump has aired $3.6 million in ads, with all of the spending from two outside groups, the National Rifle Association ($2.3 million) and Rebuilding America Now ($1.3 million). The Trump campaign has yet to spend a single cent on ads so far in the general election.
Last week, the totals were $45 million for Team Clinton, versus $2.8 million for Team Trump.
Clinton's advantage is even more pronounced in the battlegrounds, where Team Clinton has spent a combined $46.2 million in nine states to Team Trump's $1.2 million. That's nearly a 40-to-1 margin.
Total Ad Spending So Far
Team Clinton: $57 million ($25 million from campaign, $32 million from Super PACs)
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hilary spent the month bitterly fighting bernie AND wrapping up the emailgate stuff. bad month for her on 2 fronts.
bernie backs her, cleared by FBI... donor confidence will increase now.
I gotta admit - I like the "off the script" trump MUCH better than teleprompter trump. He's entirely below average when he does the "read a sentence with big words, then add a simple word comment" over and over. "We will neutralize the global threats to United State by numerous adversaries... cause you gotta take out the bad, bad guys." and "Turmoil on the international stage due to energy insecurity must not be tolerated... since Obama has been really really bad all over lots of things, and we're going to be really, really great, a lot of people tell me that...."
It's so awkward. I prefer his 3rd grade talk consistently.
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Might get a bump out of the convention but she'll have 3-4 points over him to atleast the debates....then he either chokes her on national TV or he looks like the idiot he is.
Trump doesn't choke on national TV.
That's where he is as comfortable as you sitting on your bathroom toilet.
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Trump doesn't choke on national TV.
That's where he is as comfortable as you sitting on your bathroom toilet.
As long as he doesn't have to answer questions or have a serious policy discussion.
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As long as he doesn't have to answer questions or have a serious policy discussion.
As if Hillary doesn't evade questions?
Did you see the Loretta Lynch ordeal a couple days ago?
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As if Hillary doesn't evade questions?
Did you see the Loretta Lynch ordeal a couple days ago?
Hillary evades, deceives, etc. No question about that.
I skipped the Lynch hearing. I've seen and heard enough. They are all corrupt.
But that has nothing to do with Trump's inability to answer policy questions or have a serious, substantive policy discussion.
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Trump doesn't choke on national TV.
That's where he is as comfortable as you sitting on your bathroom toilet.
If he tries to debate Hillary the way he owned the Republicans, he will get smoked.
It won't be pretty.
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As long as he doesn't have to answer questions or have a serious policy discussion.
this.
give him 120 straight seconds of uninterrupted time to explain his middle eastern policy, and his thing, vague, witty one-liners are suddenly going to make people a little nervous aobut his actual level of preparation.
give him 120 seconds to explain his promised to "completely erase 21 trillion of debt in 8 years". Then give the analysts a week to explain how ludicrous the idea is.
Gonna be a whole lot of whining about "gotcha questions" and "biased moderators", as the only defense for his inept answers. And they will be inept. Even his supporters kinda agree he's not all that well-versed on the issues, players, and situations.
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Shillary is behind in the the most crucial swing states. States Obama won easily in 2012. she is having trouble energizing those people who will most likely swing for trump when it comes to the undecided voter.
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No females on Trump's RM list. Too bad. Not a good decision IMO.
But I hope once he gets his vp choice on board, that person will get him on a serious track. He can beat Hillary if he wants to, and he can turn this nation around if he'd only have faith.
And as for the "debates", don't forget Hillary is a runner. She must run like hell when confronted with her history of anti-American behavior. So he can completely own her on the debate stage if he'd only snap out of it and get with the program.
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No females on Trump's RM list. Too bad. Not a good decision IMO.
But I hope once he gets his vp choice on board, that person will get him on a serious track. He can beat Hillary if he wants to, and he can turn this nation around if he'd only have faith.
And as for the "debates", don't forget Hillary is a runner. She must run like hell when confronted with her history of anti-American behavior. So he can completely own her on the debate stage if he'd only snap out of it and get with the program.
Hillarys' base of morons are too busy chasing fake cartoon charatchers around than to watch debates
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Hillarys' base of morons are too busy chasing fake cartoon charatchers around than to watch debates
Many of Bernie's people aren't satisfied with Madame Neocon. She's completely worthless to the average person, and she can hide that only so well and for so long.
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Hillary evades, deceives, etc. No question about that.
I skipped the Lynch hearing. I've seen and heard enough. They are all corrupt.
But that has nothing to do with Trump's inability to answer policy questions or have a serious, substantive policy discussion.
The guy is no Newt Gingrich when it comes to command of policy, I grant you that. He is a new politican and is learning along the way and he has made progress.
Hillary has a stack of issues a mile high to deal with herself and this is a one on one event at this point.
Anybody who thinks she will blow him out of the water with her issues and his stage presence is kidding themselves.
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If he tries to debate Hillary the way he owned the Republicans, he will get smoked.
It won't be pretty.
Haven't you been wrong about him the entire time?
Why should your words carry any weight whatsoever?
You are the last person anybody should take serious on what Trump is capable of.
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Haven't you been wrong about him the entire time?
Why should your words carry any weight whatsoever?
You are the last person anybody should take serious on what Trump is capable of.
How have I been "wrong" about him?
I have not made any real predictions on anything other than his attitude, so I'm not sure what you are talking about.
The only prediction I've made is that he won't be President of the United States.
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How have I been "wrong" about him?
I have not made any real predictions on anything other than his attitude, so I'm not sure what you are talking about.
The only prediction I've made is that he won't be President of the United States.
There were rumors going around that Trump was considering a Democrat for VP.
I must admit, I did think that was kind of bizarre.
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There were rumors going around that Trump was considering a Democrat for VP.
I must admit, I did think that was kind of bizarre.
It could be a damn good move.
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Clinton's negatives now exceed Trump's. Just heard.
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There were rumors going around that Trump was considering a Democrat for VP.
I must admit, I did think that was kind of bizarre.
That wasn't me.
I never made any such claims.
Would that turn off his base? Would that bring over Democrats? Would a Democrat make that jump?
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Shillary is behind in the the most crucial swing states. States Obama won easily in 2012. she is having trouble energizing those people who will most likely swing for trump when it comes to the undecided voter.
Trump will benefit greatly in those states from all these social issues going on, shit economy, her baggage etc
Hillary is going to have some real problems there.
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That wasn't me.
I never made any such claims.
Would that turn off his base? Would that bring over Democrats? Would a Democrat make that jump?
I think the argument could be made that it could potentially help going that route.
The hardcore NeverTrump crowd ::) are out of the picture so they don't matter.
Millions of Trump supporters won't switch back to Hillary because they completely despise her.
So in theory, bringing a Dem VP on board could potentially bring over a decent amount of independents.
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Picking Newt would be a huge mistake. Unacceptable.
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Picking Newt would be a huge mistake. Unacceptable.
Love Newt, he was my first pick a few years ago but I tend to agree. Just doesn't look well together. Something like 6 marriages between the two...not good.
I am convinced Trump would have brought Bernie on board if he could have.
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Newt would be great chief of staff.
Personal pick would be Gen. mattis for VP
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The guy is no Newt Gingrich when it comes to command of policy, I grant you that. He is a new politican and is learning along the way and he has made progress.
Hillary has a stack of issues a mile high to deal with herself and this is a one on one event at this point.
Anybody who thinks she will blow him out of the water with her issues and his stage presence is kidding themselves.
I think their debates will be a train wreck. She is terrible. He is terrible. They both suck at debates: Hillary because she is so flat out dishonest and Trump because he's a lying, uninformed dummy. These are the two worst choices for president I've seen in my lifetime.
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Newt would actually be a good choice for VP IMO. If Trump is going to be president, he needs to have at least one person who knows what he's doing, is smart, and isn't afraid to tell him he's wrong.
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I think their debates will be a train wreck. She is terrible. He is terrible. They both suck at debates: Hillary because she is so flat out dishonest and Trump because he's a lying, uninformed dummy. These are the two worst choices for president I've seen in my lifetime.
Probably the two worst choice in the past 80 years at a minimum. Maybe a century.
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Probably the two worst choice in the past 80 years at a minimum. Maybe a century.
No argument there.
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Love Newt, he was my first pick a few years ago but I tend to agree. Just doesn't look well together. Something like 6 marriages between the two...not good.
They don't make a good pair. I agree.
And personally, I don't like Newt. He's a pure negative imo and probably a psychopath (imo).
I am convinced Trump would have brought Bernie on board if he could have.
It would be a win, I agree. But maybe Bernie wouldn't want it, idk. I knew when they were throwing insults around it meant no dice, anyway.
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Clinton Losing In Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Quinnipiac University Swing State Poll Finds
Quinnipiac polling ^ | 7/13/2016 | Quinnipiac
Posted on 7/13/2016, 7:39:03 AM by Nicojones
FLORIDA: Trump 42 - Clinton 39 OHIO: Clinton 41 - Trump 41 PENNSYLVANIA: Trump 43 - Clinton 41 With a drop in grades on honesty and moral standards, Democrat Hillary Clinton loses an 8-point lead over Republican Donald Trump in Florida, and finds herself in too-close-to-call races in the three critical swing states of Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania, according to a Quinnipiac University Swing State Poll released today.
Clinton loses ground on almost every measure from a June 21 survey by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University. The Swing State Poll focuses on Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania because since 1960 no candidate has won the presidential race without taking at least two of these three states.
(Excerpt) Read more at qu.edu ...
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Charles Koch: CEO of Koch Industries Discusses Choosing Between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump
Asked about voting for the candidates in the November election, Koch told Fortune magazine, "If I had to vote for cancer or heart attack, why would I vote for either."
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Charles Koch: CEO of Koch Industries Discusses Choosing Between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump
Asked about voting for the candidates in the November election, Koch told Fortune magazine, "If I had to vote for cancer or heart attack, why would I vote for either."
At the end of the day - for me at this point - i might go Trump for 3 reasons. 1) I hate Hillary 2) ObamaCare 3) Supreme Court
Did I mention i hate that dirty fishy CVNT?
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Charles Koch: CEO of Koch Industries Discusses Choosing Between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump
Asked about voting for the candidates in the November election, Koch told Fortune magazine, "If I had to vote for cancer or heart attack, why would I vote for either."
I'm stealing that.
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I'm stealing that.
Me too. It is exactly how I feel.
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The "betting" sites have continued to remain at mid-high 60s for Hillary and low-mid 30s for Trump. They've held at that for months, now. Whatever that means.
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At the end of the day - for me at this point - i might go Trump for 3 reasons. 1) I hate Hillary 2) ObamaCare 3) Supreme Court
Did I mention i hate that dirty fishy girl?
See, I think for me it's such a wash I have to go elsewhere.
1. I hate Hillary.
2. I hate Trump
3. I hate Obamacare
4. I kind of want a "somewhat" liberal SC Justice, but only on things like gay marriage and shit like that. I don't want them messing with the 2nd amendment.
Neither Trump nor Hillary will do what I want.
At least if I vote the Libertarian, I can say they will leave people alone and leave the 2nd amendment alone.
Also an idea of isolationism in regards to fighting wars across the world sounds ok to me right now.
Save us some money.
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There were rumors going around that Trump was considering a Democrat for VP.
I must admit, I did think that was kind of bizarre.
-Doubt this would fly with the Republican party. Anyway, as of yesterday, he was leaning toward Ted Cruz as his running mate.
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Lol @ "dirty fishy girl"
Censors are lol
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Today's presidential poll results
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-Doubt this would fly with the Republican party. Anyway, as of yesterday, he was leaning toward Ted Cruz as his running mate.
He really needs to go female IMO. Can't think of too many males he'd pair well with. Newt would be the worst imo with Christie not much better.
And anyone he's traded shots w should be out of the question, it seems. The commercials are as good as made in those cases, and they wouldn't be helpful to him.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/15/us/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-poll.html?_r=0
oooppps
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/15/us/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-poll.html?_r=0
oooppps
TRUMP 44% - CLINTON 37%
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch
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They do this every time, though. Doesn't mean anything unless state-by-state.
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They do this every time, though. Doesn't mean anything unless state-by-state.
The only thing that to me is really interesting is trump is spending literally or next to $0 and hillary tons and tons. what happens when and if Trump actually makes a go at this?
Hillary is toxic and hated by all by blacks, gays, and white latte lib females in some urban settings.
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Trump Surges Past Hillary in Three Key Swing States (THIS AIN’T NO JOKE)
Canada Free Press ^ | 07/14/16 | Mitch Wolfe
Posted on 7/14/2016, 12:12:16 PM by Sean_Anthony
Clinton Losing On Honesty In Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania
The very well-respected Quinnipiac University poll came out with a poll yesterday that has three key swing states- Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida- turning to Trump. Say What The Frack?
Ohio: Trump-41 vs Hillary-41 Florida: Trump-42 vs Hillary-39 Pennsylvania: Trump-43 vs Hillary-41 Note no presidential candidate has won the presidency since 1960 without winning two of these three swing states.
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I have said it from the beginning....regardless of all other things..Hil is an unlikeable shrew. She's a toxic girl out for herself. This is about money and power to her...nothing else. I'm surprised given all that's Trump...but whatever. There's way to long to go
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The only thing that to me is really interesting is trump is spending literally or next to $0 and hillary tons and tons. what happens when and if Trump actually makes a go at this?
Hillary is toxic and hated by all by blacks, gays, and white latte lib females in some urban settings.
Yeah, that's the thing. She doesn't have a devoted following except a few rag-tag dumdums who figure "it is time" to have a female president. (That's what they say, anyway, until it's a female they don't like.)
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The A-As really screwed themselves this time. Bernie was a good candidate, and the only one they've seen or will see in their lifetimes, and they rejected him for being a white man.
Just so amazingly and stunningly stupid for an entire group to do that. Nearly 100%, I believe.
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TRUMP 44% - CLINTON 37%
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch
It all depends on who is doing the polling.
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News/NY Times Clinton 40, Trump 40 Tie
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton Rasmussen Reports Clinton 37, Trump 44 Trump +7
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton Economist/YouGov Clinton 45, Trump 43 Clinton +2
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It all depends on who is doing the polling.
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News/NY Times Clinton 40, Trump 40 Tie
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton Rasmussen Reports Clinton 37, Trump 44 Trump +7
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton Economist/YouGov Clinton 45, Trump 43 Clinton +2
Very true but Trump has the momentum at this point.
It's a presidential election race so this could change very rapidly of course.
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Very true but Trump has the momentum at this point.
It's a presidential election race so this could change very rapidly of course.
You could compare this to watching the stock market. It changes moment by moment.
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You could compare this to watching the stock market. It changes moment by moment.
The larger point we can take from this is that Trump is a legit opponent.
Hillary is looking at a dog fight.
It's going to be a very interesting Fall 2016, Prime.
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And by the way...I don't think Hillary wants a dog fight.
She wants to be coronated queen simply because she sucked Bill Clinton's c*ck(allegedly)
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And by the way...I don't think Hillary wants a dog fight.
She wants to be coronated queen simply because she sucked Bill Clinton's c*ck(allegedly)
I hope Hillary and Bill enjoy reciprocal oral sex. I doubt fellatio gives her queen status though.
All in all, these presidential campaigns have been the most riveting ones I can remember. Now that it's basically down to two, the real excitement begins. I suspect there will be 'dog fights' over the next several months.
Polychronopolous....
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I'm a pain in your ass
I drink all your beer
I'll eat the last slice
I'll give you charley horses
I'll pull your shorts down at the beach
I always need a ride
Nobody likes me
My name's Steve Motherfucking Polychronopolous
I spit when I talk
I swear in front of your mother
I throw shit at the movies
I wear tight pants
I ask you to buy an extra Yankee ticket
And then I don't show
I tell you I saw your girlfriend
Fucking two guys at a party
'Cause my name's Steve Motherfucking Polychronopolous
I'll piss on your toilet seat and tell your dad you got stoned
I'll borrow your jacket and never think of returning it
Polychronopolous
Pansy
Pussy
Shit for brains
Douchebag
I'll leave your gate open
So your dog runs away
I'll make fun of your pimple
Then I'll grab your sister's ass
'Cause my name's Steve Motherfucking Polychronopolous
And I don't care
And I don't give a shit
I'll break your brother's stereo
And then tell him it was you
You think you're better than me
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Deal with it