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I have been doing alot of extra tricep work to try progress in my pressing movements. It seemed to help for a while but now as result
I'vestarted to get elbow pain...
I Always get this joint/tendon inflamation when I overwork... sucks because I would be alot stronger if it didnt prevent me...
guess steroids is the only solution if I want to progress further
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Maintain good form and take enough time to recover. I know, no groundbreaking stuff..
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Stay away from skull crushers and do triceps after chest when its pre exhausted so you dont have to use much weight.
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Stay away from skull crushers and do triceps after chest when its pre exhausted so you dont have to use much weight.
yeah but I wanted to do extra triceps on a seperate day to improve tric strength
and i do do Heavy skull crushers
guess it's a no-go
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I have had tennis elbow for months, fucker just keeps coming and going, forearm pain gets so bad cant even pick up a 10k plate at times.
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try turmeric for forearm tendinitis, been using it for years
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try turmeric for forearm tendinitis, been using it for years
do I eat it or rub it on?
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yeah but I wanted to do extra triceps on a seperate day to improve tric strength
and i do do Heavy skull crushers
guess it's a no-go
Heavy skull crushers? I haven't seen a pro do skull crushers since they wore spandex on ESPN.
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Heavy skull crushers? I haven't seen a pro do skull crushers since they wore spandex on ESPN.
couldn't care less what "pros" does
just trying to bench more
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I have been doing alot of extra tricep work to try progress in my pressing movements. It seemed to help for a while but now as result
I'vestarted to get elbow pain...
I Always get this joint/tendon inflamation when I overwork... sucks because I would be alot stronger if it didnt prevent me...
guess steroids is the only solution if I want to progress further
Is it tennis elbow or the elbow joint ? Sounds like the joint.....
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Is it tennis elbow or the elbow joint ? Sounds like the joint.....
pain is where the tricep tendon attaches to the elbow.
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n543/andre20111/tri2.png)
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Skull crushers are the worst for triceps in terms of tension on the elbow.
When I do them, I do them last.
You could easily get bigger and stronger triceps with close grip bench presses.
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Overhead triceps extensions on the cable machine. DMSO.
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Elbow pain can also radiate/originate from the shoulder.
I had it so bad that I thought I had a severe tennis elbow when in reality something was of in my shoulder which stemmed from years of playing guitar the wrong way and mouse clicking :D
I had several trigger points in various muscle groups and a severe tightening in the muscles of the "shoulder-complex" which caused a mis-aligned elbow joint and thus pain.
According to Louie Simmons the elbows should be worked hard with light high rep "rolling tricep extensions" which can have a "healing" effect.
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couldn't care less what "pros" does
just trying to bench more
If you want to bench more then work on your bench load up the bench and do heavy weight from lockout to half way down then lower the weight and do rest pause on your chest and only go half way up, do this for flat and incline and for your triceps do weighted dips and close grip bench press, you should see a difference within a month.
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do I eat it or rub it on?
eat
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I have been doing alot of extra tricep work to try progress in my pressing movements. It seemed to help for a while but now as result
I'vestarted to get elbow pain...
I Always get this joint/tendon inflamation when I overwork... sucks because I would be alot stronger if it didnt prevent me...
guess steroids is the only solution if I want to progress further
you plateaued and it's time to switch it up. Variety. That's the beauty of bodybuilding, you can be versatile. Other sports are much more restrictive. :)
Don't be stubborn and push it, it never works.
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Skull crushers are the worst for triceps in terms of tension on the elbow.
When I do them, I do them last.
You could easily get bigger and stronger triceps with close grip bench presses.
I used to have pain in my elbows. Doing pushdowns first, then extensions afterward fixed the problem.
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I have been doing alot of extra tricep work to try progress in my pressing movements. It seemed to help for a while but now as result
I'vestarted to get elbow pain...
I Always get this joint/tendon inflamation when I overwork... sucks because I would be alot stronger if it didnt prevent me...
guess steroids is the only solution if I want to progress further
Stock up on Knoxx Gelatin. Powder form ,add to water or juice stir and pound the whole packet down. I had tennis elbow and other joint pain. This is the fastest relief and cure to the tennis elbow. Mine was so bad I could not hold my fork and bend my arm to eat. I took one Gelatin pack that same night, the next morning I had full mobility, in just two day I could do any exercise with out pain. I still use it when I know I am going to lift heavy in compound movements. Once before my workout then later that night. It really works.
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pain is where the tricep tendon attaches to the elbow.
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n543/andre20111/tri2.png)
Try lying triceps extentions, but do them like a pullover and get a good stretch. Emulates skullcrushers, but due to the lying position it does not put so much pressure on the tendon in the extended position as the arm is not fully flexed/bent. Really works the long head of the triceps. Works for me, and I can certainly not do skullcrushers.
NN
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i used to have serious pain, would always hurt the most when i was standing around the bar shooting the shit with family or friends and had a mug or bottle of beer , after 5 minutes i had to keep switching hands
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go to big 5 and get some below pads. they are like wet suit material. get em sized tight. like ronnie coleman wore. i ben gay up my elbows, put on my pads, put on a hoodie. start warming up. i wear the hoodie zipped up for exactly 20 minutes, then take it off,
have a nice sweat going, elbows are warmed up really good. fuck the motherfuckers who say don't do skull crushers!!!!!!!!!! best excerise i do for my triceps. that and close grip. I'm stronger than shit. judo
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I have been doing alot of extra tricep work to try progress in my pressing movements. It seemed to help for a while but now as result
I'vestarted to get elbow pain...
I Always get this joint/tendon inflamation when I overwork... sucks because I would be alot stronger if it didnt prevent me...
guess steroids is the only solution if I want to progress further
Tendinitis. Painful and takes time to go away.
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Tendinitis. Painful and takes time to go away.
thanks for the tip/Lincoln shot
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I avoid all pressing movements if I get it, they are what tend to exacerbate it for me. The shoulder and chest can be worked adequately without them, in the meantime it gives the area chance to recover. You wouldn't put out a fire with petrol would you?
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If you want to bench more then work on your bench load up the bench and do heavy weight from lockout to half way down then lower the weight and do rest pause on your chest and only go half way up, do this for flat and incline and for your triceps do weighted dips and close grip bench press, you should see a difference within a month.
Are you a Joon gimmick?
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I have been doing alot of extra tricep work to try progress in my pressing movements. It seemed to help for a while but now as result
I'vestarted to get elbow pain...
I Always get this joint/tendon inflamation when I overwork... sucks because I would be alot stronger if it didnt prevent me...
guess steroids is the only solution if I want to progress further
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NEVER go heavy right away- the tendons, muscles, and the elbow joint all need blood to "lubricate" the area... A few warm up sets for elbows & knees would save people $$$ by their 40's!!!!!!!
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pain is where the tricep tendon attaches to the elbow.
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n543/andre20111/tri2.png)
This can heal quickly, far faster than the tennisarm. Do other exercises for tri.
Personally, I never had problems with skull crushers, I think they are the best tri mass builder, even though officially an isolation exercise. After a period of not training and starting again, the poundages on skulls increase extremely quickly. Too bad so many people have problems from them. Same goes for wide grip upright rows, terrific. Use straps on these, though. Friend of mine got a tennis elbow from upright rows...
says dr Dutch
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big judochoke practicing what he preaches
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Judoshake, I will give you the benefit of the young-and-starting GB poster.
But: youtube stuff should be embedded.
Getbiggers do not trust links......they are paranoid about that.
Ok, now this is what is and will be.....
says Dr Dutch
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All Tricep extension movements are done from a position of poor leverage and put a lot of stress on the fulcrum which, in this case, is the elbow joint.
The best option is a push down movement as it doesn't have momentum increasing the downward force and putting even more stress on the elbows.
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Your tricep is very tight and u probably lack full extension of the elbow-the ability to fully straighten and lock out your elbow-thus your elbow is forced to compensate for the tricep and your probably limited shoulder range of motion
It's like u are walking on your hands with bent elbows all the time
Go to a barbell and bend your arm like at the bottom of a chin up
Drive the area of your tricep right by your elbow into the barbell as hard as u can and then work on opening and extending and closing your elbow on the barbell,as hard as u can with as much pressure , like u r doing a bicep curl-also work on smashing your tricep side to side on the bottom with the elbow extended with as much pressure as u can-do not let your shoulder rise up
I 150% guarantee u this will help u and clear up the issues
Do this everyday for 5 mins per arm
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Your tricep is very tight and u probably lack full extension of the elbow-the ability to fully straighten and lock out your elbow-thus your elbow is forced to compensate for the tricep and your probably limited shoulder range of motion
It's like u are walking on your hands with bent elbows all the time
Go to a barbell and bend your arm like at the bottom of a chin up
Drive the area of your tricep right by your elbow into the barbell as hard as u can and then work on opening and extending and closing your elbow on the barbell,as hard as u can with as much pressure , like u r doing a bicep curl-also work on smashing your tricep side to side on the bottom with the elbow extended with as much pressure as u can-do not let your shoulder rise up
I 150% guarantee u this will help u and clear up the issues
Do this everyday for 5 mins per arm
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I have been doing alot of extra tricep work to try progress in my pressing movements. It seemed to help for a while but now as result
I'vestarted to get elbow pain...
I Always get this joint/tendon inflamation when I overwork... sucks because I would be alot stronger if it didnt prevent me...
guess steroids is the only solution if I want to progress further
Avoid exercises that hurt your elbow, wear sleeves to keep your elbows warm and provide extra support, warm up thoroughly before you lift, and use ice after workouts
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big judochoke practicing what he preaches
very bad form
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big judochoke practicing what he preaches
Put a cargo strap around your arms, about 10" between your elbows, and lets see how many proper extensions you can make with that weight...
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Jim Wendler said guys generally do too much direct tricep work.
Presses for chest and delts and dips are enough for triceps. Doing more results in elbow problems.
If anyone has advice for persistent bicep tendonitis let me know. Can't even curl 5lbs without pain. Eating curcumin and cissus. Hasn't helped. Eccentric work?
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If anyone has advice for persistent bicep tendonitis let me know.
Deep tissue massage or ART? (no homo)
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this motherf**** still giving me a hard time and ive not done direct triceps work for a month >:(
like coach said tendinitis.
can I shoot some antiinflammatory in there to make it heal faster?
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I had elbow pain for a few years. The only thing that worked for me was buying a chin up bar or using the chin-up bar at my gym and doing dead hangs for 45 seconds before and after my workouts. I'm not smart enough to explain the logistics behind how or why this worked, but it did. I realize it sounds too simple, but to take 90 seconds out of your day to try this shouldn't be much of a burden. This was truly the best thing I ever tried regarding getting over my elbow pain, and it worked rather quickly. I would say I felt better in less than a month of trying this.
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this motherf**** still giving me a hard time and ive not done direct triceps work for a month >:(
like coach said tendinitis.
can I shoot some antiinflammatory in there to make it heal faster?
Read my post earlier in this thread. You have nothing to lose but maybe a few dollars. It worked very well for my tennis elbow, as well as other joint pain. I have had many people tell me likewise after they start on it as well.
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I have been doing alot of extra tricep work to try progress in my pressing movements. It seemed to help for a while but now as result
I'vestarted to get elbow pain...
I Always get this joint/tendon inflamation when I overwork... sucks because I would be alot stronger if it didnt prevent me...
guess steroids is the only solution if I want to progress further
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I got bad tendonitis in my right elbow from doing straight barbell Skull-Crushers, when I switched to EZ-Curl bar, it just went away...
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Diclofenac works wonders in my tendons. Dont shoot it in the area though, just gluteshots.
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this motherf**** still giving me a hard time and ive not done direct triceps work for a month >:(
like coach said tendinitis.
can I shoot some antiinflammatory in there to make it heal faster?
Use bands and do light tricep work with high reps - 50 to 300(every second day). Do not go heavy in any way or form. As an addon you can try eating "organic" gelatin(the one used for cooking for example). Japanese Karatekas use(d) to eat pig feet for the gelatin.
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... EZ-Curl bar...
This.
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Jim Wendler said guys generally do too much direct tricep work.
Presses for chest and delts and dips are enough for triceps. Doing more results in elbow problems.
If anyone has advice for persistent bicep tendonitis let me know. Can't even curl 5lbs without pain. Eating curcumin and cissus. Hasn't helped. Eccentric work?
Curls are the only movement I can't drop set without problems. Any kind, sooner or later - elbow pain.
Always goes away. Hope yours has by now.
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Skull Crushers on a Flat Bench, with an EZ curl bar, focuses on the Long Head of the triceps, the Medial and Lateral Heads just act as stabilizers. Unfortunately, that puts enormous pressure on your Anconeous Muscle (The often ignored, other elbow extensor) leading to elbow pain. Better to do Skull Crushers on a Decline Bench, with an EZ Curl Bar. In that position, all three heads of the Triceps work very hard, and give the Anconeous some help/rest.
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It's bad for the elbow joint to do bi and tri exercises incorrectly. Yet is is bad for the elbow joint, if all that you do, are bi and tri exercises, even if you do them correctly. The elbows also rotate around the joint. With out doing exercises for that elbow function, correctly, you are creating muscle imbalances relating to the elbow joints. The tri and bi muscle get strong, and the rotational muscle movements don't. Use it or lose, as in injure it.
Concentrating only on big lifts, and the bigger muscles, is a common error that lifters make, whether for muscle strength, or muscle size.
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Hurt my right elbow 6-12 months ago, been trying all types of rehab, finally decided back to the dark side, two weeks of organon deca at 50mg a week from the doc and its getting better, hate admitting it but the healing properties are to good to ignore downside is the few lbs that come with it, hopefully when I stop in a few weeks it wont come back,and I can drop the few unwanted lbs, its a pretty low dose, bit ironic being on getbig while trying to get smaller but late 40s leave the big game for the young guys.