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Have you guys known anyone who's lives have benefited from choosing to use steroids? I personally know two, one high school friend of mine was being scouted his by some major universities his junior year, senior year comes dude comes back huge, took his game to another level and ended up landing a scholarship to Princeton (full ride), ended up with a degree from there, also played two seasons in the NFL practice squad, but all in all, the decision improved the quality of his life and benefited greatly from it.
Another friend of mine jumped on juice in college, became a male stripper, dude looked like a blown up version of Leonardo DiCaprio, he juiced for almost 3 years straight, made just over $300,000, he paid off his entire college tuition, and took the rest of the money opened up his own detail shop, never touched the stuff ever again. Again, in this situation I think it really was worth it for him.
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hey go4it
true story back when i was younger i trained at a powerhouse which at the time was a hardcore gym
trained with a kid who was around 25, he told me he was a model etc he did a ton of roids, would cocktail etc
come to find out, he did gay4pay and flew out to california a couple times a month to film gay porn. he did all of this to pursue his dream
of becoming a pro bodybuilder. i dont think it panned out. i think they benefit some but not most.
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Yeah, I've known a lot of guys who juiced, but only two were it literally changed the entire course of their lives for the better.
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Yeah, I've known a lot of guys who juiced, but only two were it literally changed the entire course of their lives for the better.
another guy i new qualified for the nationals, he was really into bodybuilding was working with billy smith doing that intrafit deal.
so he decides to buy a small gym. he ended up losing his ass and going into debt .
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Gym business is super difficult, especially if you cater to the bodybuilding crowd
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Gym business is super difficult, especially if you cater to the bodybuilding crowd
yeah you got that righ the start up costs are enormous thats why you dont see to many small gyms anymore
the big ones that are owned by corporations have taken over
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arnold did ok
LOL! First thing I thought of.
Here people associate PEDs with bbing. No surprise there and if your goal with juicing is to be a pro bber you are overwhelmingly destined to failure and ruin your health and life if you don't get out in time.
But for most I think PEDs improves the quality and success in life. People think of juicing in bbing terms which is simply drug abuse. Used judiciously the pros outweigh the cons. From the gym rat level looking to score some poon to the athlete who simply will not succeed today without some help. Stallone is 70 years old! Chuck Norris is even older. Compare to people their age they are in a difference league.
Being stronger, fitter and simply looking better than you would be naturally is always a plus. It's no key or guarantee of success but it will simply improve what you are now. Again, I'm talking judicious use. 200mg/wk Test and 300mg/wk Deca hasn't turned me into a superman but compared to others my age I'm way ahead of the game. I feel better and I'm able to do things I wouldn't be able to without a boost and have suffered no side effects. I get blood work done every 3 months and everything is fine.
BTW, I know what it's like to take four months off on nothing and I can attest that being on is much, much better. Even if it meant that I'd die at 70 rather than 80.
I'm not looking to live long but to make the most and enjoy what years I do have.
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I'm taking about people that you know personally, not celebrity success stories.
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yea my friend had weird looking ears that wee wonky looking, so he juiced up and got lean and felt less insecure about his wonky ears
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Most nfl players and entertainment wrestlers are on juice, so they benefit financially
In many sports: no gear = no career
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Most nfl players and entertainment wrestlers are on juice, so they benefit financially
In many sports: no gear = no career
yes you are right
i love how people think the rock is all natural
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Have you guys known anyone who's lives have benefited from choosing to use steroids? I personally know two, one high school friend of mine was being scouted his by some major universities his junior year, senior year comes dude comes back huge, took his game to another level and ended up landing a scholarship to Princeton (full ride), ended up with a degree from there, also played two seasons in the NFL practice squad, but all in all, the decision improved the quality of his life and benefited greatly from it.
Another friend of mine jumped on juice in college, became a male stripper, dude looked like a blown up version of Leonardo DiCaprio, he juiced for almost 3 years straight, made just over $300,000, he paid off his entire college tuition, and took the rest of the money opened up his own detail shop, never touched the stuff ever again. Again, in this situation I think it really was worth it for him.
Juicing seems to have worked out pretty well for you.
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The biggest risks I would consider are either getting caught (whether you believe the laws against using steroids/PED's are "fair" or not, the laws do exist and prosecutors generally will not "look the other way") or not being able to quit, even if you are not looking to take the Olympia stage.
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Have you guys known anyone who's lives have benefited from choosing to use steroids? I personally know two, one high school friend of mine was being scouted his by some major universities his junior year, senior year comes dude comes back huge, took his game to another level and ended up landing a scholarship to Princeton (full ride), ended up with a degree from there, also played two seasons in the NFL practice squad, but all in all, the decision improved the quality of his life and benefited greatly from it.
Another friend of mine jumped on juice in college, became a male stripper, dude looked like a blown up version of Leonardo DiCaprio, he juiced for almost 3 years straight, made just over $300,000, he paid off his entire college tuition, and took the rest of the money opened up his own detail shop, never touched the stuff ever again. Again, in this situation I think it really was worth it for him.
There are no football (or any other athletic) scholarships available at Ivy League schools. Hi Coach!
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The dudes that I know, "overdid" it.
Low quality gear and too much heavy ego lifting. All of them walk around like former shells... main problem was not the drugs but their idiocy.
I guess for a person with good health and a plan which has room for alterations/corrections along the path, performance enhancing drugs are a great gift.
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There are no football (or any other athletic) scholarships available at Ivy League schools. Hi Coach!
dude my bad, it was Stanford not Princeton...and I'm taking about situations of people you've personally known that benefited from steroids, I'm not saying I'm against it, I just think the risk has to be worth the reward.
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I know a guy who takes steroids and has a pretty good life. He has some bull shit job on a cruise ship that allows him to train and eat however he likes. He competes in men's physique and despite his short stature has done pretty well. He also starts a lot of self-serving posts on Getbig.There is no end to his Peter Pan lifestyle. Sound familiar?
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dude my bad, it was Stanford not Princeton...and I'm taking about situations of people you've personally known that benefited from steroids, I'm not saying I'm against it, I just think the risk has to be worth the reward.
Why do you insist on shoving your natty status ::) down peoples throats, no one cares if you take drugs.
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Why do you insist on shoving your natty status ::) down peoples throats, no one cares if you take drugs.
I'm not for or against it really, to each it's own, the point of the thread was I personally know 2 guys in my life the benefited majorly by making this decision, they used steroids to enhance their life, they benefited from the decision immensely.
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I'm not for or against it really, to each it's own, the point of the thread was I personally know 2 guys in my life the benefited majorly by making this decision, they used steroids to enhance their life, they benefited from the decision immensely.
Most people who use benefit from it, not just financially, you get the occasional fuckwit who damages their health through use, but they are few and far between.
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Yup... A buddy went on to win in Powerlifting and held the bench press world record, went into WWWF for some years, then went onto buying property and is in movies these days.
So yes, was very much worth it for him...
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Arnold Schwarzenegger. He wouldn't even be in the States if he never used them.
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I know a dude who taught linguistics at Princeton but not sure if he hit the sauce to get there.
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I know a dude who taught linguistics at Princeton but not sure if he hit the sauce to get there.
He did. Let's be real here.
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I know a dude who taught linguistics at Princeton but not sure if he hit the sauce to get there.
All linguists juice; it's part of the game.
Anyone who suggests otherwise has his head in the sand.
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I know a guy who takes steroids and has a pretty good life. He has some bull shit job on a cruise ship that allows him to train and eat however he likes. He competes in men's physique and despite his short stature has done pretty well. He also starts a lot of self-serving posts on Getbig.There is no end to his Peter Pan lifestyle. Sound familiar?
did it fix his wonky looking eyes ? if he had wonky looking eyes that is ;D
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I know a guy who takes steroids and has a pretty good life. He has some bull shit job on a cruise ship that allows him to train and eat however he likes. He competes in men's physique and despite his short stature has done pretty well. He also starts a lot of self-serving posts on Getbig.There is no end to his Peter Pan lifestyle. Sound familiar?
You have to admire Go4its ability to totally gloss over and ignore any posts that criticise or troll him, its either that or he is just so far up his own ass he just doesn't realise its happening.
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Sly Stalone also took good advantage of steroids as most pro athletes, models, actors, fighters, bbers, etc.
Your topic is retarded.
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Sly Stalone also took good advantage of steroids as most pro athletes, models, actors, fighters, bbers, etc.
Your topic is retarded.
Yes and don't forget Arnold Schwarzenegger, although most in the know think he was mostly natural for the 1980 Mr. O.
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I use to do steroids. I still do them...but I use to do them too.
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I use to do steroids. I still do them...but I use to do them too.
Yes, good point. Also has anyone mentioned the Rock? I don't know him personally but I know him as an entertainer and he has that classic cell tech look to him.
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Pretty much all I have it from juicing I used to be a dealer made pretty good money invest it in other areas which gives me the freedom to travel, once you hit 250 pounds its a totally different world you stand out everywhere you go and its so much easier to get laid, women will tell you that they prefer a skinny brad pitt physique but thats a lie because when I use to look like that I never got laid as much as I do now.
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I'm talking about people who you personally know, not celebs or famous athletes, I know two personally who had tremendous success (life changing). I however know many who juiced to look good I guess to get girls or look big in the club to not much success.
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I'm talking about people who you personally know, not celebs or famous athletes, I know two personally who had tremendous success (life changing). I however know many who juiced to look good I guess to get girls or look big in the club to not much success.
Go4it when you specify people that you know do you mean people like Barry Bonds and Sammy Sosa, well known famous guys known by the general public?
Because on one hand they used sterons to set records and sign multimillion dollar contracts, which is a type of success, but on the other hand they've likely tarnished their legacy as athletes amongst the valued opinions of baseball writers and ruined their hall of fame chances.
Also has anyone mentioned Dwayne Johnson? I think he used pro hormones in the CFL.
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Go4it when you specify people that you know do you mean people like Barry Bonds and Sammy Sosa, well known famous guys known by the general public?
Because on one hand they used sterons to set records and sign multimillion dollar contracts, which is a type of success, but on the other hand they've likely tarnished their legacy as athletes amongst the valued opinions of baseball writers and ruined their hall of fame chances.
Also has anyone mentioned Dwayne Johnson? I think he used pro hormones in the CFL.
He means people that you personally know used steroids. Like Arnold. Everyone knows that he used.
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He means people that you personally know used steroids. Like Arnold. Everyone knows that he used.
Oh okay, I understand now.
In that case I'll use two well known bodybuilders to examine the pros and cons. Ill start with a success story, Phil Heath is an example where steroids were a beneficial choice, Mr. O nothing more needs to be said, and Greg Kovacs where they were a bad choice because his physique wasn't meant for the sport and he took so many they killed him.
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I think he is talking about people that you personally know & arnold
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I think he is talking about people that you personally know & arnold
Yes I understand completely. I know both Phil Heath and Greg Kovas, that's why I used their names and listed their accomplishments, they are both well known bodybuilders (it should be noted that they are from different eras though).
And everyone knows arnold was mostly natural during the 1980 Olympia.
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Yes I understand completely. I know both Phil Heath and Greg Kovas, that's why I used their names and listed their accomplishments, they are both well known bodybuilders (it should be noted that they are from different eras though).
And everyone knows arnold was mostly natural during the 1980 Olympia.
You can make an argument for Kovacs. ..i mean in some respects he became famous in the bb industry, had a contract with Muscletech...traveled the world, so it did improve his life to a certain degree, however the downside was that he probably just didn't want to accept the fact that he didn't have much of a chance in the competition realm, which then comes back to the risk vs reward topic..if you are consistently placing out of the top 5, when do you start to realize maybe its not worth the risk anymore.
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You can make an argument for Kovacs. ..i mean in some respects he became famous in the bb industry, had a contract with Muscletech...traveled the world, so it did improve his life to a certain degree, however the downside was that he probably just didn't want to accept the fact that he didn't have much of a chance in the competition realm, which then comes back to the risk vs reward topic..if you are consistently placing out of the top 5, when do you start to realize maybe its not worth the risk anymore.
some people have no interest in winning trophies, if thats the only reason you take gear then thats sad.
You have guys taking so much gear they are impotent.
Taking gear to make yourself more attractive to the opposite/same sex makes far more sense than doing it to stand onstage in a glittery thong for old men.
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You can make an argument for Kovacs. ..i mean in some respects he became famous in the bb industry, had a contract with Muscletech...traveled the world, so it did improve his life to a certain degree, however the downside was that he probably just didn't want to accept the fact that he didn't have much of a chance in the competition realm, which then comes back to the risk vs reward topic..if you are consistently placing out of the top 5, when do you start to realize maybe its not worth the risk anymore.
Kovacs did make a name for himself. During the late 90's he was as much of a star as there was in bodybuilding. But I don't know if his "success" compares to the friends you mentioned.
You don't have to be smart to use steroids and look good, but you do need to be smart to take advantage of the rewards that come with them.
In answer to your original question I knew a former UFC competitor who juiced, and made a name for himself.
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Has the OP ever said he's natural? I don't think so. If he is natural, he'd be the only one of Mike L's clients who is
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some people have no interest in winning trophies, if thats the only reason you take gear then thats sad.
You have guys taking so much gear they are impotent.
Taking gear to make yourself more attractive to the opposite/same sex makes far more sense than doing it to stand onstage in a glittery thong for old men.
I agree with you on this one. Moreover, healthy men can benefit from some test/hgh especially above 30 in all kinds of ways.
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Has the OP ever said he's natural? I don't think so. If he is natural, he'd be the only one of Mike L's clients who is
not once were drugs ever brought up in the whole entire prep, infact told me to ditch all supplements..only thing he recommended i use was Aqualyze the night before and day of the show.
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Just think of the irony of a man taking steroids to build up his body to impress the women he is unable to speak to only to finally attract them and be unable to perform because of steroid-induced impotency.
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Just think of the irony of a man taking steroids to build up his body to impress the women he is unable to speak to only to finally attract them and be unable to perform because of steroid-induced impotency.
that may be a problem..honestly im not saying im against steroids. .im talking about mindset..before making a decision most people will weigh out the pros and cons of the situation in order to proceed or not, which is why i started the topic of risk vs reward...hey if its going to take your life to another level, then by all means "go 4 it" im stating ive seen this happen to two close friends where they benefited tremendously from it..it improved the quality of their lives immensely. .so for them i see why they made the decision. .the risk was definitely worth the reward
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that may be a problem..honestly im not saying im against steroids. .im talking about mindset..before making a decision most people will weigh out the pros and cons of the situation in order to proceed or not, which is why i started the topic of risk vs reward...hey if its going to take your life to another level, then by all means "go 4 it" im stating ive seen this happen to two close friends where they benefited tremendously from it..it improved the quality of their lives immensely. .so for them i see why they made the decision. .the risk was definitely worth the reward
In my experience, hgh, proviron, test have all improved my sex life (knock on wood). longterm hgh use makes your dick ticker too.
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Why do you ask, Go4It? ???
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In my experience, hgh, proviron, test have all improved my sex life (knock on wood). longterm hgh use makes your dick ticker too.
there you go, seems like you benefiting from it
Why do you ask, Go4It? ???
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what sparked this was the other thread about that lady dieing at the USA
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there you go, seems like you benefiting from itwhat sparked this was the other thread about that lady dieing at the USA
Will you stay off steroids, Go4It?
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diuretics and ifbb male/female stacks are not to be adviced, but moderate AAS/HGh with good diet is good shit, mane.
and check your blood panel.
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not once were drugs ever brought up in the whole entire prep, infact told me to ditch all supplements..only thing he recommended i use was Aqualyze the night before and day of the show.
So you're saying you retained an enhanced IFBB-pro as your prep coach and you guys "not once" discussed drug use? That sounds ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as someone competing and winning at a non-tested show without assistance (even in physique class). Even if you intended to compete without enhancements wouldn't you discuss that fact with your coach?
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So you're saying you retained an enhanced IFBB-pro as your prep coach and you guys "not once" discussed drug use? That sounds ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as someone competing and winning at a non-tested show without assistance (even in physique class). Even if you intended to compete without enhancements wouldn't you discuss that fact with your coach?
LOL
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not once were drugs ever brought up in the whole entire prep, infact told me to ditch all supplements..only thing he recommended i use was Aqualyze the night before and day of the show.
If that was the case then hes not a prep coach, a coach has to know if you are taking anything or not, the advice he/she will give you is dependant on knowing if you are clean or not.
The first thing a prep coach will ask a client is, "are you using anything", although its likely you introduced yourself as "Im natty by the way"
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If you call banging 6 and 7s rewards then I guess it's worth the risk.
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If that was the case then hes not a prep coach, a coach has to know if you are taking anything or not, the advice he/she will give you is dependant on knowing if you are clean or not.
The first thing a prep coach will ask a client is, "are you using anything", although its likely you introduced yourself as "Im natty by the way"
The first question he asked was to send him a current photo, he saw I was already in good shape, he said not much work to do here just tighten up a bit, gave me a price for 8 weeks of prep, I agreed, he then asked me my current diet and supplement protocol, the supps i was taking were Superpump 250 pre workout, and Isopure and Vitargo postworkout, he told me to ditch the supps, and immediately put me on a keto diet, from there it was weekly update pics, closer to show time update pics every few days, a week out pics everyday. Maybe because my progress was very steady week to week, my body responded to the keto very fast, it was pretty effortless to dial me in for the show. Its mens physique, not bodybuilding..the first show I won I weighed around 148, the show Mike prepped me I won and weighed 152, was the smallest guy in my class at both shows, just had a good clean conditioned look. If we are talking competing on a National stage I agree gear is most likely needed..
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The first question he asked was to send him a current photo, he saw I was already in good shape, he said not much work to do here just tighten up a bit, gave me a price for 8 weeks of prep, I agreed, he then asked me my current diet and supplement protocol, the supps i was taking were Superpump 250 pre workout, and Isopure and Vitargo postworkout, he told me to ditch the supps, and immediately put me on a keto diet, from there it was weekly update pics, closer to show time update pics every few days, a week out pics everyday. Maybe because my progress was very steady week to week, my body responded to the keto very fast, it was pretty effortless to dial me in for the show. Its mens physique, not bodybuilding..the first show I won I weighed around 148, the show Mike prepped me I won and weighed 152, was the smallest guy in my class at both shows, just had a good clean conditioned look. If we are talking competing on a National stage I agree gear is most likely needed..
Is it possible you'll choose to use steroids for the purpose of bodybuilding, now or in the future?
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I've been through my share of kidneys, have hanging gyno, bald before 20, have a criminal record and have spent time in jail, arthritic joints, addicted to painkillers and have no money.
But it is all worth it when I go to the gym and am a little bit bigger than some of the naturals.