Risk vs Reward

[Jovo]

I know a guy who takes steroids and has a pretty good life. He has some bull shit job on a cruise ship that allows him to train and eat however he likes. He competes in men's physique and despite his short stature has done pretty well. He also starts a lot of self-serving posts on Getbig.There is no end to his Peter Pan lifestyle. Sound familiar?

did it fix his wonky looking eyes ? if he had wonky looking eyes that is 

[Simple Simon]

I know a guy who takes steroids and has a pretty good life. He has some bull shit job on a cruise ship that allows him to train and eat however he likes. He competes in men's physique and despite his short stature has done pretty well. He also starts a lot of self-serving posts on Getbig.There is no end to his Peter Pan lifestyle. Sound familiar?

You have to admire Go4its ability to totally gloss over and ignore any posts that criticise or troll him, its either that or he is just so far up his own ass he just doesn't realise its happening.

[Bulgarian_enforcer]

Sly Stalone also took good advantage of steroids as most pro athletes, models, actors, fighters, bbers, etc.

Your topic is retarded.

[Dave D]

Sly Stalone also took good advantage of steroids as most pro athletes, models, actors, fighters, bbers, etc.

Your topic is retarded.

Yes and don't forget  Arnold Schwarzenegger, although most in the know think he was mostly natural for the 1980 Mr. O.

[Super Natural]

I use to do steroids. I still do them...but I use to do them too.

[Dave D]

I use to do steroids. I still do them...but I use to do them too.

Yes, good point.  Also has anyone mentioned the Rock? I don't know him personally but I know him as an entertainer and he has that classic cell tech look to him.

[8 INCH not biceps]

Pretty much all I have it from juicing I used to be a dealer made pretty good money invest it in other areas which gives me the freedom to travel, once you hit 250 pounds its a totally different world you stand out everywhere you go and its so much easier to get laid, women will tell you that they prefer a skinny brad pitt physique but thats a lie because when I use to look like that I never got laid as much as I do now. 

[Go 4 It]

I'm talking about people who you personally know, not celebs or famous athletes, I know two personally who had tremendous success (life changing). I however know many who juiced to look good I guess to get girls or look big in the club to not much success.

[Dave D]

I'm talking about people who you personally know, not celebs or famous athletes, I know two personally who had tremendous success (life changing). I however know many who juiced to look good I guess to get girls or look big in the club to not much success.

Go4it when you specify people that you know do you mean people like Barry Bonds and Sammy Sosa, well known famous guys known by the general public?

Because on one hand they used sterons to set records and sign multimillion dollar contracts, which is a type of success, but on the other hand they've likely tarnished their legacy as athletes amongst the valued opinions of baseball writers and ruined their hall of fame chances.

Also has anyone mentioned Dwayne Johnson? I think he used pro hormones in the CFL.

[Tapeworm]

Go4it when you specify people that you know do you mean people like Barry Bonds and Sammy Sosa, well known famous guys known by the general public?

Because on one hand they used sterons to set records and sign multimillion dollar contracts, which is a type of success, but on the other hand they've likely tarnished their legacy as athletes amongst the valued opinions of baseball writers and ruined their hall of fame chances.

Also has anyone mentioned Dwayne Johnson? I think he used pro hormones in the CFL.

He means people that you personally know used steroids.  Like Arnold.  Everyone knows that he used.

[Dave D]

He means people that you personally know used steroids.  Like Arnold.  Everyone knows that he used.

Oh okay, I understand now.

In that case I'll use two well known bodybuilders to examine the pros and cons. Ill start with a success story, Phil Heath is an example where steroids were a beneficial choice, Mr. O nothing more needs to be said, and Greg Kovacs where they were a bad choice because his physique wasn't meant for the sport and he took so many they killed him.

[Yamcha]

I think he is talking about people that you personally know & arnold

[Dave D]

I think he is talking about people that you personally know & arnold

Yes I understand completely. I know both Phil Heath and Greg Kovas, that's why I used their names and listed their accomplishments, they are both well known bodybuilders (it should be noted that they are from different eras though).

And everyone knows arnold was mostly natural during the 1980 Olympia.

[Go 4 It]

Yes I understand completely. I know both Phil Heath and Greg Kovas, that's why I used their names and listed their accomplishments, they are both well known bodybuilders (it should be noted that they are from different eras though).

And everyone knows arnold was mostly natural during the 1980 Olympia.

You can make an argument for Kovacs. ..i mean in some respects he became famous in the bb industry,  had a contract with Muscletech...traveled the world, so it did improve his life to a certain degree, however the downside was that he probably just didn't want to accept the fact that he didn't have much of a chance in the competition realm, which then comes back to the risk vs reward topic..if you are consistently placing out of the top 5, when do you start to realize maybe its not worth the risk anymore.

[Simple Simon]

You can make an argument for Kovacs. ..i mean in some respects he became famous in the bb industry,  had a contract with Muscletech...traveled the world, so it did improve his life to a certain degree, however the downside was that he probably just didn't want to accept the fact that he didn't have much of a chance in the competition realm, which then comes back to the risk vs reward topic..if you are consistently placing out of the top 5, when do you start to realize maybe its not worth the risk anymore.

some people have no interest in winning trophies, if thats the only reason you take gear then thats sad.

You have guys taking so much gear they are impotent.
Taking gear to make yourself more attractive to the opposite/same sex makes far more sense than doing it to stand onstage in a glittery thong for old men.

[Dave D]

You can make an argument for Kovacs. ..i mean in some respects he became famous in the bb industry,  had a contract with Muscletech...traveled the world, so it did improve his life to a certain degree, however the downside was that he probably just didn't want to accept the fact that he didn't have much of a chance in the competition realm, which then comes back to the risk vs reward topic..if you are consistently placing out of the top 5, when do you start to realize maybe its not worth the risk anymore.

Kovacs did make a name for himself. During the late 90's he was as much of a star as there was in bodybuilding. But I don't know if his "success" compares to the friends you mentioned.

You don't have to be smart to use steroids and look good, but you do need to be smart to take advantage of the rewards that come with them.

In answer to your original question I knew a former UFC competitor who juiced, and made a name for himself.

[OlympiaGym]

Has the OP ever said he's natural?  I don't think so. If he is natural, he'd be the only one of Mike L's clients who is

[Bulgarian_enforcer]

some people have no interest in winning trophies, if thats the only reason you take gear then thats sad.

You have guys taking so much gear they are impotent.
Taking gear to make yourself more attractive to the opposite/same sex makes far more sense than doing it to stand onstage in a glittery thong for old men.

I agree with you on this one. Moreover, healthy men can benefit from some test/hgh especially above 30 in all kinds of ways.

[Go 4 It]

Has the OP ever said he's natural?  I don't think so. If he is natural, he'd be the only one of Mike L's clients who is

not once were drugs ever brought up in the whole entire prep, infact told me to ditch all supplements..only thing he recommended i use was Aqualyze the night before and day of the show.

[SquidVicious]

Just think of the irony of a man taking steroids to build up his body to impress the women he is unable to speak to only to finally attract them and be unable to perform because of steroid-induced impotency.

[Go 4 It]

Just think of the irony of a man taking steroids to build up his body to impress the women he is unable to speak to only to finally attract them and be unable to perform because of steroid-induced impotency.

that may be a problem..honestly im not saying im against steroids. .im talking about mindset..before making a decision most people will weigh out the pros and cons of the situation in order to proceed or not,  which is why i started the topic of risk vs reward...hey if its going to take your life to another level, then by all means "go 4 it" im stating ive seen this happen to two close friends where they benefited tremendously from it..it improved the quality of their lives immensely. .so for them i see why they made the decision. .the risk was definitely worth the reward

[Bulgarian_enforcer]

that may be a problem..honestly im not saying im against steroids. .im talking about mindset..before making a decision most people will weigh out the pros and cons of the situation in order to proceed or not,  which is why i started the topic of risk vs reward...hey if its going to take your life to another level, then by all means "go 4 it" im stating ive seen this happen to two close friends where they benefited tremendously from it..it improved the quality of their lives immensely. .so for them i see why they made the decision. .the risk was definitely worth the reward

In my experience, hgh, proviron, test have all improved my sex life (knock on wood). longterm hgh use makes your dick ticker too.

[Las Vegas]

Why do you ask, Go4It?   

    

 



 

[Go 4 It]

In my experience, hgh, proviron, test have all improved my sex life (knock on wood). longterm hgh use makes your dick ticker too.

there you go, seems like you benefiting from it

Why do you ask, Go4It?   

    

 



 

what sparked this was the other thread about that lady dieing at the USA

[Las Vegas]

there you go, seems like you benefiting from itwhat sparked this was the other thread about that lady dieing at the USA

Will you stay off steroids, Go4It?