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What is the rationale for doing a lat pulldown like this?
Shawn Rhoden
https://www.instagram.com/p/BEriuzMEHsi/?taken-by=flexatronrhoden&hl=en
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The only rationale to do it like this is because Charles Glass told him to.
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there goes charles glass with some new revolutionary game changing exercise to justify his over prices guru training prices
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this way he cant arch back and uses more lats and less rhomboids
he could also just use a conventional strict form pull down
this is the same "rationale" as sitting backwards on a hammer strength shoulder press
but really it's "angles" bro
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there goes charles glass with some new revolutionary game changing exercise to justify his over prices guru training prices
Don't you talk about the methods of bodybuilding's Mad Monk of Training like that.
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Charles glass makes money off these idiots
What's so hard about training?
If u got the genetics and drug response for it does it really matter?
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so he can feel charles glass's meat against his butt
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this way he cant arch back and uses more lats and less rhomboids
he could also just use a conventional strict form pull down
this is the same "rationale" as sitting backwards on a hammer strength shoulder press
but really it's "angles" bro
Yep
Big Ronnie didn't need this hack and won 8 titles, go figure
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Yep
Big Ronnie didn't need this hack and won 8 titles, go figure
Big Ronnie actually had back detail. Oddly, almost all of the guys from that era did. Even Levrone had better back detsil than Rhoden did.
Maybe this is due from Rhoden taking like 7 yrs off?
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in all honesty being in gyms for quite some time, that movement right there is absolutely ridiculous and not productive
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this way he cant arch back and uses more lats and less rhomboids
he could also just use a conventional strict form pull down
this is the same "rationale" as sitting backwards on a hammer strength shoulder press
but really it's "angles" bro
The back has to be arched to activate the lats...
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The back has to be arched to activate the lats...
bahahaha exactly I wasn't going to touch that comment
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Big Ronnie actually had back detail. Oddly, almost all of the guys from that era did. Even Levrone had better back detsil than Rhoden did.
Maybe this is due from Rhoden taking like 7 yrs off?
Thats true and this era pushed in much more heavy GH and insulin usage
Ex. Look at Phil's physique in the early mid 2000's compared to now, he had much more definition and striations early on and after turning pro became just a bloofy physique
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The back has to be arched to activate the lats...
his problem ain't lats, but "back meat"---Rhomboids, lower traps, Teres Major, Teres Minor , infraspinatus, erector spinae
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his problem ain't lats, but "back meat"---Rhomboids, lower traps, Teres Major, Teres Minor , infraspinatus, erector spinae
100% good point there
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his problem ain't lats, but "back meat"---Rhomboids, lower traps, Teres Major, Teres Minor , infraspinatus, erector spinae
So do a row-type exercise and a 3/4 deadlift. If you do this your posterior chain should be adequately stimulated. That spin on a pull-down is emperor's new clothes-ish.
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Typical Charles Glass nonsense, for which people are foolish enough to pay him for.
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Maybe Just an excuse to have a filthy, stinking hobo on his back?
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So do a row-type exercise and a 3/4 deadlift. If you do this your posterior chain should be adequately stimulated. That spin on a pull-down is emperor's new clothes-ish.
Hey it worked for Gunter, dammit >:(
Or maybe he should buy an old Flex magazine and read Shawn Ray's "Snakes of Detail" article? :-\
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Glass has to be livid his secrets are being exposed because of social media.
I will soon be doing this exercise. I'm expecting it to be a nation wide phenomenon.
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Your elbows should be in front of the body to properly work the lats
All u losers that don't do that are fucking spinning your wheels
I don't give a shit if u r 250lbs and bigger than me
Lats should be elbows down and in front of body
Go slice open a cadaver and see how the lats insert
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3:54 Mark
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3:54 Mark
0:20 Mark
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3:54 Mark
plz note branchs elbows are in front of his body-thank u have a nice night
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this way he cant arch back and uses more lats and less rhomboids
he could also just use a conventional strict form pull down
this is the same "rationale" as sitting backwards on a hammer strength shoulder press
but really it's "angles" bro
lol
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How much does Charles Glass charge for a training session?
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New York Times bestseller right there. Lol.
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How much does Charles Glass charge for a training session?
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Your elbows should be in front of the body to properly work the lats
All u losers that don't do that are fucking spinning your wheels
I don't give a shit if u r 250lbs and bigger than me
Lats should be elbows down and in front of body
Go slice open a cadaver and see how the lats insert
My guess is that it is not for his lats.
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I see dumbasses at the gym do glass style workouts like sitting on a dumbell doing cable rows
The guy is a genius and con artist to pros or anyone that is willing to pay for this
If u are on boatloads of drugs and your genetics suck, and been training for over 10 yrs, glass style training isn't going to do anything with his bs angles
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My guess is that it is not for his lats.
He was def training chest
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Charles glass makes money off these idiots
What's so hard about training?
If u got the genetics and drug response for it does it really matter?
Its great to have friend u pay for. They are always loyal and nice to u! They arealways willing to help you and are there for u...as long as u give them money. They care for u! :)
Genetics drugs and a fucking mirror. And some sort of intelligence is requierd...to understand what different excersises do for your body. And some people need to have someone telling them your not ready, instead of giving them a hand on the back when they se one vein poping out...u are fat...u are not ready your are fat...isent it just water? No its fat, u need 4-8 weeks more diet...isent it just water, no its fat...ITS FAT FAT FAT FAT and u dont know how to diet
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No rationale, just Mr.Glass preparing him what to do when the schmoes assphuck Rhoden from the back!
Getting tickled on your prostata while training back, now there's some revolutionary.. :o :o
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Your elbows should be in front of the body to properly work the lats
All u losers that don't do that are fucking spinning your wheels
I don't give a shit if u r 250lbs and bigger than me
Lats should be elbows down and in front of body
Go slice open a cadaver and see how the lats insert
What a load of shit, the perfect form for this as described by the great yates..." When performing a wide grip chin, arch your back and when you pull up, try and imagine elbowing someone behind you" substitute chins for pull downs, same difference
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Charles glass makes money off these idiots
What's so hard about training?
If u got the genetics and drug response for it does it really matter?
Charles seems to make it up as he goes along, he's obviously a hook up for legit kegs GH :D
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What a load of shit, the perfect form for this as described by the great yates..." When performing a wide grip chin, arch your back and when you pull up, try and imagine elbowing someone behind you" substitute chins for pull downs, same difference
GOD FORBID you stay open to suggestions and new ideas that could possibly improve your body
Go slice open a cadaver and see how the lats insert in the body
But yes let's take the advice of the racist convict Yates as gospel and the only way
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Just another angle......I believe in using different angles for different effects.
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0:20 Mark
LMAO
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GOD FORBID you stay open to suggestions and new ideas that could possibly improve your body
Go slice open a cadaver and see how the lats insert in the body
But yes let's take the advice of the racist convict Yates as gospel and the only way
He had a wide back, I have a wide back... Could it be wider if we trained it elbows in front?
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Not a mr O back. Rhoden is amazing everywhere else but his back is a huge liability. He has to figure this out
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/JB5_7957wtmk_VFTWOJHHXB.JPG)
(http://www.freynutrition.info/olympia/2013/olympia-2013-rhoden-5.jpg)
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He had a wide back, I have a wide back... Could it be wider if we trained it elbows in front?
do whatever u want
Just so I understand -what you're saying your method is better than training the way the body's muscles insert on your skeleton?
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Your the only person I know who states this as correct, from my own feeling and contractions using the other method I disagree...
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Not a mr O back. Rhoden is amazing everywhere else but his back is a huge liability. He has to figure this out
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/JB5_7957wtmk_VFTWOJHHXB.JPG)
(http://www.freynutrition.info/olympia/2013/olympia-2013-rhoden-5.jpg)
Back "detail" just disappears midback.
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Maybe Just an excuse to have a filthy, stinking hobo on his back?
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Your the only person I know who states this as correct, from my own feeling and contractions using the other method I disagree...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wnhLY_7_GOQ
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Your the only person I know who states this as correct, from my own feeling and contractions using the other method I disagree...
u better tell branch warren he's doing the pulldowns wrong!!! Put your siren on your car and drive down to metroflex!!! Your form tips could win him another mr o title!!
Your so called correct form is the same form every skinny stoner does in the gym-they do your style yet their backs never grow
But hey u know best!!! You're a competitor!!!
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Charles is a good guy, who works like a body engineer, analysing weak points and reinventing exercises to target them or creating new ones, I never really understood the hate from getbiggers to the guy, he's one of the hardest working trainers out there, whether its 4am or 10 pm Charles is there, guys a workaholic.
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Charles is a good guy, who works like a body engineer, analysing weak points and reinventing exercises to target them or creating new ones, I never really understood the hate from getbiggers to the guy, he's one of the hardest working trainers out there, whether its 4am or 10 pm Charles is there, guys a workaholic.
Because Getbiggers don't even know why they hate most of the time. It's pathetic.
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Charles is a good guy, who works like a body engineer, analysing weak points and reinventing exercises to target them or creating new ones, I never really understood the hate from getbiggers to the guy, he's one of the hardest working trainers out there, whether its 4am or 10 pm Charles is there, guys a workaholic.
He better, that's his job
The hate is what secret method is there to training? It's just lifting weights? Like I said if u got the right genetics, drug response, u are going to do well
Look at Charles client list, Cormier, flex, Dexter, Gunther, all were going to do well with or without him
Like I said Dorian, Ronnie, Phil, lots others never used him and have how many titles??
I don't hate the guy, gotta do what u gotta do
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Yesterday
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Lol, shit Glass comes up with us hilarious. Saw the 1998 road to Olympia where he was training Gunter on chest and the workout was simple....but he adjusted the bench by putting weights under the bench ::)
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Reminds me of ricky bobby's father style of training
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Thats true and this era pushed in much more heavy GH and insulin usage
Ex. Look at Phil's physique in the early mid 2000's compared to now, he had much more definition and striations early on and after turning pro became just a bloofy physique
Good lord, Ronnie used more Humatrope than any human ever has. Ronnie trained like an animal, huge deadlift, rows, etc.these guys today train like girls in comparison.
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u better tell branch warren he's doing the pulldowns wrong!!! Put your siren on your car and drive down to metroflex!!! Your form tips could win him another mr o title!!
Your so called correct form is the same form every skinny stoner does in the gym-they do your style yet their backs never grow
But hey u know best!!! You're a competitor!!!
Great choice of role model... ::), I'll stick with yates thanks
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Good lord, Ronnie used more Humatrope than any human ever has. Ronnie trained like an animal, huge deadlift, rows, etc.these guys today train like girls in comparison.
That's true but in the 90's GH and insulin usage for sure but the the 2000's the dosages got pushed even higher, doesn't take a genius to figure that out, a long with the overeating
Ronnie didn't start pushing the heavy GH/insulin usage until his 2003/2004 form when he made the most improvements
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wow that is just retarded looking
people pay charles glass for this ?
could you see dorian yates or ronnie coleman or even ahnold doing this
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I met Glass briefly......nice personable guy and very innovative.
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Great choice of role model... ::), I'll stick with yates thanks
yeah good thinking mr competitor! Better to stick with a convict racist
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I hate to see all these new age angle bullshit if you want a good back do some chin ups pulldowns to the front, t bar rows, bend over row, rack deadlifts, if after doing all of this you dont have a great back then guess what you never will.
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Charles glass makes money off these idiots
What's so hard about training?
If u got the genetics and drug response for it does it really matter?
End of thread .
Examples : Sergio Oliva and Ronnie Coleman always trained with lousy poor form
WOSHHHHHHHHH A ROD
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I hate to see all these new age angle bullshit if you want a good back do some chin ups pulldowns to the front, t bar rows, bend over row, rack deadlifts, if after doing all of this you dont have a great back then guess what you never will.
Let's see your great back
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There's a video where the great Bostin Loyd says that pro bodybuilders are the laziest "athletes "out there.
Charles Glass just take advantage of it.
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The whole irony is that all of you hating will be trying this later at the gym....
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he did some things for Gunther to get certain body parts better to make his waist appear less wide ..
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Let's see your great back
I have damn good back let me teach you, building a great back it not about throwing around heavy ass weight is about squeeze and contraction lower the weight and feel the muscle.
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i like branch's videos, esp wjen he calls everyone else pufffssy's
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The whole irony is that all of you hating will be trying this later at the gym....
The only thing I'll be trying at the gym is Phil's 4 plates on incline hammer strength press or Jay's mind/muscle connection, I heard it's the best in the biz like Jedi mind connection sort of thing
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The whole irony is that all of you hating will be trying this later at the gym....
I'm too lazy to wheel the incline bench over to the lat pulldown station.
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Great. Shawn will enter the mr o stage bloated and not ready again...some negroes can't get the razor sharp grainy look. Don't know why...
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I have damn good back let me teach you, building a great back it not about throwing around heavy ass weight is about squeeze and contraction lower the weight and feel the muscle.
So true. And that just what they are doing with Rhoden, but hey: most of these guys doesn't know fuck about the bodybuilding, including that "elbows at the front"- moron. What he try to describe is pulling chins, where you use your lats and biceps, but who does that? If you are training your lats, why exhaust your biceps? Wide grip helps you to concentrate all the work to the lats + what you just said. Jerking enormous weight like Warren is good if you are just petting your ego, but what Warrens back look like? Just like piece of shit, high lats, bad symmetry, thick as fuck and stiff as boner. These people should learn that their way to do these exercises will be easy to see in their appearance. They should know that there isn't high lats and low lats, only people who are training wisely and dorks who doesn't. ;D
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So true. And that just what they are doing with Rhoden, but hey: most of these guys doesn't know fuck about the bodybuilding, including that "elbows at the front"- moron. What he try to describe is pulling chins, where you use your lats and biceps, but who does that? If you are training your lats, why exhaust your biceps? Wide grip helps you to concentrate all the work to the lats + what you just said. Jerking enormous weight like Warren is good if you are just petting your ego, but what Warrens back look like? Just like piece of shit, high lats, bad symmetry, thick as fuck and stiff as boner. These people should learn that their way to do these exercises will be easy to see in their appearance. They should know that there isn't high lats and low lats, only people who are training wisely and dorks who doesn't. ;D
No you fucking idiot
If u do the movement right u won't exhaust your biceps-
Please stop posting about stuff u have no comprehension of
Debate me mother fucker
Please explain to me how u feel your way is better to how muscles attach to the skeleton
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So true. And that just what they are doing with Rhoden, but hey: most of these guys doesn't know fuck about the bodybuilding, including that "elbows at the front"- moron. What he try to describe is pulling chins, where you use your lats and biceps, but who does that? If you are training your lats, why exhaust your biceps? Wide grip helps you to concentrate all the work to the lats + what you just said. Jerking enormous weight like Warren is good if you are just petting your ego, but what Warrens back look like? Just like piece of shit, high lats, bad symmetry, thick as fuck and stiff as boner. These people should learn that their way to do these exercises will be easy to see in their appearance. They should know that there isn't high lats and low lats, only people who are training wisely and dorks who doesn't. ;D
what the fuck is pulling chins? Please use English when speaking to me
No I am not referring to chins why r u so confused?
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So true. And that just what they are doing with Rhoden, but hey: most of these guys doesn't know fuck about the bodybuilding, including that "elbows at the front"- moron. What he try to describe is pulling chins, where you use your lats and biceps, but who does that? If you are training your lats, why exhaust your biceps? Wide grip helps you to concentrate all the work to the lats + what you just said. Jerking enormous weight like Warren is good if you are just petting your ego, but what Warrens back look like? Just like piece of shit, high lats, bad symmetry, thick as fuck and stiff as boner. These people should learn that their way to do these exercises will be easy to see in their appearance. They should know that there isn't high lats and low lats, only people who are training wisely and dorks who doesn't. ;D
one more question-if elbows are not down and forward how do u prevent anterior glide of your shoulder?