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The Trump campaign can quickly clear this up by releasing her visa and the media will move on. Right Coach?
....but.. something tells me that they won't ::)
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Once she married Donald Trump, she no longer needs a visa however the VISA Fraud could fuck up a few things
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The Trump campaign can quickly clear this up by releasing her visa and the media will move on. Right Coach?
....but.. something tells me that they won't ::)
All in favor of supermodels immigrating or anyone productive and beneficial. I would never release anything until Hillary releases her Goldman Sachs speeches and medical records, oh and also those 33,000 emails she "deleted."
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Once she married Donald Trump, she no longer needs a visa
Venom Voodoo Vince your response is a non sequitar. It has nothing to do with the video that I posted, did you even watch the video? I think not
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All in favor of supermodels immigrating or anyone productive and beneficial. I would never release anything until Hillary releases her Goldman Sachs speeches and medical records, oh and also those 33,000 emails she "deleted."
I can't believe that the media is not hounding her to release those videos. It is absolutely appalling that she doesn't but it also goes to show how untrustworthy she really is.
with that said doesn't not releasing the visa help or hurt him? this question could be raised in a debate...
Mr. Trump, what is your stance on people working here illegally?
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I can't believe that the media is not hounding her to release those videos. It is absolutely appalling that she doesn't but it also goes to show how untrustworthy she really is.
with that said doesn't not releasing the visa help or hurt him? this question could be raised in a debate...
Mr. Trump, what is your stance on people working here illegally?
Just now posting about this? It was a story from like a week ago, already dealt with.
Which liberal interest group are you a member of? Islam, racial, lgbtfo?
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she worked as a model under the HB2 visa, a tourist visa. She got caught, and moved to the "I didn't get paid for the modeling job..." She would be working illegally, even if exchanging modeling for exposure in a major magazine.
She will get away with it. Not a huge deal, but does undermine the donald a bit, sure. She didn't follow the rules that she harps on now.
The previous marriage which a trump lawyer admitted to - and she denied - that could be a bigger issue. She may still be legally married... left sites as asking about bigamy, etc.
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I doubt she's illegal in any way but what most people do my realize is that entering the country legally and overstaying a visa is way better than crossing illegally.
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Just now posting about this? It was a story from like a week ago, already dealt with.
Dealt with? Certainly hasn't been resolved. She got caught working when she wasn't allowed to legally work. Trump is hoping he can throw other shit at the wall and that'll obfuscate it.
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I doubt she's illegal in any way but what most people do my realize is that entering the country legally and overstaying a visa is way better than crossing illegally.
She worked, while here on a tourist visa. She worked in 1995 and first got the work visa in 1996.
Maybe it was "dealt with" by a vague denial, maybe she decided that since nobody has proven any cash yet, we can discount the value obtained from a major print spread.
Point is, they're advocating a rule she wiped her ass with in the past.
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She worked, while here on a tourist visa. She worked in 1995 and first got the work visa in 1996.
Maybe it was "dealt with" by a vague denial, maybe she decided that since nobody has proven any cash yet, we can discount the value obtained from a major print spread.
Point is, they're advocating a rule she wiped her ass with in the past.
Like I said you liberal flotsam, it is very different entering legally and overstaying or violating terms of your visa than unlawfully entering the country.
For example say an illegal Mexican chick enters the country, I fall in love and marry her. Trying to get her citizenship will be hard as fuck or near impossible.
Scenario 2; same chick from mexico entered on a student visa. Overstayed the visa we get married. It would be rather simple to get her citizenship since she entered legally. Just need to go meet with our immigration lawyer an boom! Citizenship.
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she didn't overstay - she visited as a tourist in 95, and did work when that was against the law. She traveled back and forth, renewing her tourist visa every few months. This was illegal then, and illegal now, and trump is working to eliminate these visa because people are using them to take jobs away from americans.
I admire her beautiful work, of course - but the fact is she did take a job which could have been done by an american model. The exact thing trump rallies against. From picking produce to gracing magazines with terrific pics, DEY TOOK OUR JOBS!!!!!!!!
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She worked, while here on a tourist visa. She worked in 1995 and first got the work visa in 1996.
Maybe it was "dealt with" by a vague denial, maybe she decided that since nobody has proven any cash yet, we can discount the value obtained from a major print spread.
Point is, they're advocating a rule she wiped her ass with in the past.
No....as usual you have this wrong.
She was here on a H-1B work visa that was arranged for her through the modeling agency she was working for.
Jesus fuck you are a retarded Hillary dicksucker. As is Melania Knauss' work visa back in 1995 is even remotely the same as the fucking Mexicans and Radical Muslims Hillary is going to fastrack to citizenship.
You are one dense Trayvon Martin loving idiot
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No....as usual you have this wrong.
She was here on a H-1B work visa that was arranged for her through the modeling agency she was working for.
Jesus fuck you are a retarded Hillary dicksucker. As is Melania Knauss' work visa back in 1995 is even remotely the same as the fucking Mexicans and Radical Muslims Hillary is going to fastrack to citizenship.
You are one dense Trayvon Martin loving idiot
Not that we don't believe you but can you provide a link where the Trump campaign has stated that his wife was on an H-1B visa? or should be just take your word for it?
I can't find any current article stating that she had an H1B visa
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not surprised
sad
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not surprised
sad
ofcourse you think that dindu
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ofcourse you think that dindu
sorry you feel that way
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Didn't realize she was running for office
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Not that we don't believe you but can you provide a link where the Trump campaign has stated that his wife was on an H-1B visa? or should be just take your word for it?
I can't find any current article stating that she had an H1B visa
The modeling agency that hired her has stated they got her the H-1B visa so she could do photoshoots for them.
Take the dick out of your mouth and google it.
And then go find the 30,000 missing fucking emails lying Hillary deleted from the FBI during an investigation
Focus on the real story here.
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not surprised
sad
Dindu
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... realize is that entering the country legally and overstaying a visa is way better than crossing illegally.
1) why ?
2) the vast majority of undocumented immigrants flew into the US on a tourist or student visa. That's why the suggestion of a wall is so stupid.
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She was here on a H-1B work visa that was arranged for her through the modeling agency she was working for.
I thought she said she first got her work visa in 1996? Correct?
she did this shoot in 1995.
Didn't realize she was running for office
She is a political spokeswoman, doing speeches and interviews proclaiming how illegals shouldn't be stealing jobs.
Same way Bill clinton, megan meccain, and that palin baby machine are legit public voices for their causes
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1) why ?
2) the vast majority of undocumented immigrants flew into the US on a tourist or student visa. That's why the suggestion of a wall is so stupid.
Cite a reliable source that backs up that claim.
There are an estimated 34,000,000 illegals here in the U.S. and the majority are of Latino descent. Did they fly in from Tijuana, Juarez, and Nogales?
Bullshit....
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I thought she said she first got her work visa in 1996? Correct?
she did this shoot in 1995.
She is a political spokeswoman, doing speeches and interviews proclaiming how illegals shouldn't be stealing jobs.
Same way Bill clinton, megan meccain, and that palin baby machine are legit public voices for their causes
Fuck you are stupid....you fucking argue for the sake of showing Getbig how stupid you are.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-modeling-agent-reveals-details-about-melania-trumps-visa/
The modeling agency got her a work visa before she ever did any work here.
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The modeling agency got her a work visa before she ever did any work here.
Starting in 1996.
For the 1995 shoot, the modeling agency spokesman just kinda figures she must not have gotten paid for it.
WE're talking about the 1995 shoot. He has all the answers from 1996 on. The 1995 shoot is the one she wasn't under a visa to work, she was just a tourist then.
Him retreating to "well, I'm sure she didn't get any more money for it..." is pretty weak defense.
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Starting in 1996.
For the 1995 shoot, the modeling agency spokesman just kinda figures she must not have gotten paid for it.
WE're talking about the 1995 shoot. He has all the answers from 1996 on. The 1995 shoot is the one she wasn't under a visa to work, she was just a tourist then.
Him retreating to "well, I'm sure she didn't get any more money for it..." is pretty weak defense.
Kill yourself you stupid kunt.
Take your fucking Skittles, ice tea, 14-inch biceps and go try to rob George Zimmerman, because you're literally too stupid to live.
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Lol @ 240 arguing over some pictures that were taken 20+ years ago. Is that really relevant?
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As relevant as a Melanoma :D
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Lol @ 240 arguing over some pictures that were taken 20+ years ago. Is that really relevant?
Hillary and Bill steal $30,000,000-$40,000,000 during the Skolkovo deal with Russia, sell them military secrets and medical technology, and access to U.S. IT secrets.....but liberals are worried if someone got paid $200 for a photo.
These retards don't understand the difference between a legal work visa and the Mexican drug cartel controlling the border across CA, AZ, NM, and TX.
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Lol @ 240 arguing over some pictures that were taken 20+ years ago. Is that really relevant?
i said earlier, i think the pictures are beautiful and I appreciate them :)
But from a political stance, she is lecturing people and saying we need to follow the law - and there's a big Q how she worked in 95 when she got the visa to work in 96.
she has a history of lying - claiming she wrote the speech, then letting a buddy fall on 2 paragraphs lifted straight from michelle obama.
Not a big deal, she isn't going to be making policy - BUT trump uses her as an example of how immigrants SHOULD do it, then she should be following the law if she is lecturing others and helping to make policy - and by giving speeches, she is.
I understand why she didn't want the limelight. may have lied about another marriage. did lie about her speech. May have lied about work pass. Lied about college degree.
I am fine if trump wins - i'm fascinated by a 911 truther as president. But for this thread, yes, it doesn't look good. trump's lawyer will not explain what compensation and how she worked in 1995. he 'supposes' she must not have been paid for it - pure speculation.
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i said earlier, i think the pictures are beautiful and I appreciate them :)
But from a political stance, she is lecturing people and saying we need to follow the law - and there's a big Q how she worked in 95 when she got the visa to work in 96.
she has a history of lying - claiming she wrote the speech, then letting a buddy fall on 2 paragraphs lifted straight from michelle obama.
Not a big deal, she isn't going to be making policy - BUT trump uses her as an example of how immigrants SHOULD do it, then she should be following the law if she is lecturing others and helping to make policy - and by giving speeches, she is.
I understand why she didn't want the limelight. may have lied about another marriage. did lie about her speech. May have lied about work pass. Lied about college degree.
I am fine if trump wins - i'm fascinated by a 911 truther as president. But for this thread, yes, it doesn't look good. trump's lawyer will not explain what compensation and how she worked in 1995. he 'supposes' she must not have been paid for it - pure speculation.
Was she married to Trump in 95?
Can you name me any politician that follows the laws they set forth?
Does this mean we can use Bills run as president to criticize your hero Killary ???
Can we start with the 5 dead people involved in investigating Killary in the last week or so?
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Trump is running on integrity, promising to stop the illegals breaking immigration laws and taking jobs here. So IF it's true she illegally worked, it does matter. Hilary's offenses are much worse, I agree. In order to maintain the higher moral ground, trump has to admit any error, lies or shady deeds, or he loses ability to criticize Hilary for it.
I don't think her modeling shoot affected anyone but whatever model didn't get the job. But in 2016 she is bragging she did it legally and we should boot those who don't.
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;D :o ::) i think the drumpfster will soon be joining my uncle crazy luke,,, he says anything that pops into his mind too...at least he has an excuse he's crazy and has tourrette's syndrome ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Trump is running on integrity, promising to stop the illegals breaking immigration laws and taking jobs here. So IF it's true she illegally worked, it does matter. Hilary's offenses are much worse, I agree. In order to maintain the higher moral ground, trump has to admit any error, lies or shady deeds, or he loses ability to criticize Hilary for it.
I don't think her modeling shoot affected anyone but whatever model didn't get the job. But in 2016 she is bragging she did it legally and we should boot those who don't.
Yes, absolutely the same as crossing illegally from Mexico and then being a drain and burden on schools, medical and legal system for life and bringing in more like that throug unlimited chain migration. She's never paid for a drink in her life, much less been a drain on the system.
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Dindu
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So what liberal group identity interest group does 240 belong to? Is it race/ethnic based, religious, gender/sexual preference? Or is it just a plain old free shit army bias? Virtually every antitrumper here can be traced to ties to one of these groups or some SJW victim status. Guessing the tie is my new favorite game. Apologies if others think it's obvious, I don't follow people here that closely that I know their history.
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The Mental Illness of Liberalism on full display in this thread.
Roll out the Red Carpet for America Hating Moslems and Deadbeat Illegals from Mexico, but European Supermodels? They gotta go!
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Cite a reliable source that backs up that claim.
There are an estimated 34,000,000 illegals here in the U.S. and the majority are of Latino descent. Did they fly in from Tijuana, Juarez, and Nogales?
Bullshit....
first there are 11 million undocumented immigrants in the US, not 34 million. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/19/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/
regarding percentage who overstayed their visa, http://www.pewhispanic.org/2006/05/22/modes-of-entry-for-the-unauthorized-migrant-population/
45% is not the vast majority, so I stand slightly corrected.
But there are also many who have been here since the 1950s, 60s and 70s, and for one reason or another didn't or couldn't apply for amnesty back in 86. 50 years ago in towns like El Paso, people walked back and forth daily without having to show any documentation.
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first there are 11 million undocumented immigrants in the US, not 34 million. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/19/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/
regarding percentage who overstayed their visa, http://www.pewhispanic.org/2006/05/22/modes-of-entry-for-the-unauthorized-migrant-population/
45% is not the vast majority, so I stand slightly corrected.
But there are also many who have been here since the 1950s, 60s and 70s, and for one reason or another didn't or couldn't apply for amnesty back in 86. 50 years ago in towns like El Paso, people walked back and forth daily without having to show any documentation.
Bullshit.....
Libs quote 9 to 11 million.
That is a crock of shit and you know it.
The rest of your post is just bullshit dribble.
But what do you know about making good choices, you suck cock for chrissakes.
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Trump is running on integrity, promising to stop the illegals breaking immigration laws and taking jobs here. So IF it's true she illegally worked, it does matter. Hilary's offenses are much worse, I agree. In order to maintain the higher moral ground, trump has to admit any error, lies or shady deeds, or he loses ability to criticize Hilary for it.
I don't think her modeling shoot affected anyone but whatever model didn't get the job. But in 2016 she is bragging she did it legally and we should boot those who don't.
It's obvious she's an illegal
first the plagiarism of Michelle Obama, now this
when will the madness end?
???
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first there are 11 million undocumented immigrants in the US, not 34 million. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/19/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/
regarding percentage who overstayed their visa, http://www.pewhispanic.org/2006/05/22/modes-of-entry-for-the-unauthorized-migrant-population/
45% is not the vast majority, so I stand slightly corrected.
But there are also many who have been here since the 1950s, 60s and 70s, and for one reason or another didn't or couldn't apply for amnesty back in 86. 50 years ago in towns like El Paso, people walked back and forth daily without having to show any documentation.
Tim, that 11 million has been bandied about for a few years. It could more, it could be less. We don't know, because THEY ARE UNDOCUMENTED! Use your brain! And this is for all races and ethnicities who are undocumented.
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Bullshit.....
Libs quote 9 to 11 million.
That is a crock of shit and you know it.
You said "Cite a reliable source that backs up that claim." I did. If you don't accept Pew Research as a reliable source, then there is not much I can do.
Tim, that 11 million has been bandied about for a few years. It could more, it could be less. We don't know, because THEY ARE UNDOCUMENTED! Use your brain! And this is for all races and ethnicities who are undocumented.
There are experts in statistics and demographics. They've gotten pretty good at interpolating data.
And I'm not sure which way you mean "and this is for all races and ethnicities". The study I provided was for all races and ethnicities. Or are you saying you're only interested in illegals who are brown?
What is it that Colbert said? Oh yeah. Facts have a liberal bias.
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You said "Cite a reliable source that backs up that claim." I did. If you don't accept Pew Research as a reliable source, then there is not much I can do.
There are experts in statistics and demographics. They've gotten pretty good at interpolating data.
And I'm not sure which way you mean "and this is for all races and ethnicities". The study I provided was for all races and ethnicities. Or are you saying you're only interested in illegals who are brown?
What is it that Colbert said? Oh yeah. Facts have a liberal bias.
As I said, that 11 million is + or - 5 yrs old. That number can change due to the economy and people leaving or coming in, due to people getting their citizenship. Or if people are deported (and then come right back). I believe there was something about the Obama Administration was deporting a lot of people. Many different variables. So, that 11 million figure may or may not be that accurate.
I added the all races and ethnicities for you and others who only picture brown skinned Latinos. And sure enough, what did you mention (you didn't mention Latino, but "we" know)? Exactly. White folks tend to not think about the Russians and Eastern Europeans, the Asians, Middle Easterners, white Israelis, etc. And include them in the "undocumented" or illegal category.
The United States Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has estimated that 11.4 million unauthorized immigrants lived in the United States in January 2012. According to DHS estimates, "the number of illegal immigrants peaked around 12 million in 2007 and has gradually declined to closer to 11 million."[1] The DHS estimate "is in the same ballpark as several independent organizations that study illegal immigration, including Pew Research Center (11.3 million); the Center for Migration Studies (11 million), which studies migration and promotes policies that safeguard the rights of migrants, and the Center for Immigration Studies, which advocates for low levels of legal immigration (11-12 million)."[1]
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So she's been caught with her 'panties down', big deal. It's certainly not a first for her. Her husband is a serial liar and a lot of folks don't care or are simply blind to it.
Trump should relegate Melania to the 'back seat' because she's not helping his campaign. Then again, the Donald never admits to anything even when he's been caught with his pants down. Hilary isn't much better.
To put it nicely, Politicians, whether amateur or experienced, fudge on the truth all the time. There is nothing new about this. Sometimes the public jumps on their lies and sometimes not.
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I added the all races and ethnicities for you and others who only picture brown skinned Latinos. And sure enough, what did you mention (you didn't mention Latino, but "we" know)? Exactly. White folks tend to not think about the Russians and Eastern Europeans, the Asians, Middle Easterners, white Israelis, etc.
Could this be because illegal and legal Latinos are often linked with crime and violence? If African Americans were here illegally, many people would want to deport them too for the same reasons.
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Trump is running on integrity, promising to stop the illegals breaking immigration laws and taking jobs here. So IF it's true she illegally worked, it does matter. Hilary's offenses are much worse, I agree. In order to maintain the higher moral ground, trump has to admit any error, lies or shady deeds, or he loses ability to criticize Hilary for it.
I don't think her modeling shoot affected anyone but whatever model didn't get the job. But in 2016 she is bragging she did it legally and we should boot those who don't.
You're wrong, it doesn't matter. Only people like you care and that's because you're trying to steer attention away from the real facts about Killary.
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You're wrong, it doesn't matter. Only people like you care and that's because you're trying to steer attention away from the real facts about Killary.
I say let's let all the facts about everyone running for office out and then see who people vote for. Of course to be a fact, it must be proved.
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The 11 million figure is at least ten years old.
It's all just a distraction from this:
http://www.dangerandplay.com/2016/08/07/who-is-hillarys-handler-doctor-stroke-seizure/
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Of course to be a fact, it must be proved.
Yet for something to be proven requires the support of facts. What are we gonna do?! :o
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Did you watch the video? Hilary didn't freeze up or have a stroke, she was interrupted by a group of animal rights activists who tried to jump on stage. She successfully turned that moment around by referencing Trump's son's affinity for hunting. “Okay, we’ll keep talking,” Clinton continued. “And apparently these people are here to protest Trump, because Trump and his kids have killed a lot of animals. So thank you for making that point.”
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Does anyone believe this is not a GIF? ::)
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Did you watch the video? Hilary didn't freeze up or have a stroke, she was interrupted by a group of animal rights activists who tried to jump on stage. She successfully turned that moment around by referencing Trump's son's affinity for hunting. “Okay, we’ll keep talking,” Clinton continued. “And apparently these people are here to protest Trump, because Trump and his kids have killed a lot of animals. So thank you for making that point.”
Did you watch the video with the volume on?
The black dude clearly jumped on stage and told her it's ok, you can handle this just keep talking.
She's got some major health issues on top of her mental issues.
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The 11 million figure is at least ten years old.
It's all just a distraction from this:
http://www.dangerandplay.com/2016/08/07/who-is-hillarys-handler-doctor-stroke-seizure/
I agree with that completely - I've started several threads on hilary's health - that coughing and the recent 'head bounce' over and over when her eyes rolled back, and she played it off and blamed the coffee...
I've always said - going back to mccain and beyond - that presidents should submit to a full body/brain scan and blood/urine tests, verified by an indepdendent medical body, so that we don't get another JFK hooked on painkillers, in the most important office on earth.
We have to pee in a cup to bag groceries at Publix, but not to be president. Let that sink in.
She's majorly lying about her health. Everyone knows it. Looks to be dealing with major head injury.
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I added the all races and ethnicities for you and others who only picture brown skinned Latinos. And sure enough, what did you mention (you didn't mention Latino, but "we" know)? Exactly. White folks tend to not think about the Russians and Eastern Europeans, the Asians, Middle Easterners, white Israelis, etc. And include them in the "undocumented" or illegal category.
what are you talking about? All the stats I cited were of all immigrants. I know three undocumented people from Europe, a few from Australia too.
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what are you talking about? All the stats I cited were of all immigrants. I know three undocumented people from Europe, a few from Australia too.
Tell us more about the criminal element you associate with.......
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The 11 million figure is at least ten years old.
(http://immigration.procon.org/files/1-illegal-immigration-images/population-of-immigrants-in-the-country-illegally.PNG)
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We have to pee in a cup to bag groceries at Publix
Analyzing your bodily fluids. I still don't understand how people ever accepted this as ok. Human microchipping is right around the corner.
"It's for your own safety. And it's company policy. Your safety is our policy!" Sure. My policy is your sister's wide open ass.
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As I said, that 11 million is + or - 5 yrs old. That number can change due to the economy and people leaving or coming in, due to people getting their citizenship. Or if people are deported (and then come right back). I believe there was something about the Obama Administration was deporting a lot of people. Many different variables. So, that 11 million figure may or may not be that accurate.
I added the all races and ethnicities for you and others who only picture brown skinned Latinos. And sure enough, what did you mention (you didn't mention Latino, but "we" know)? Exactly. White folks tend to not think about the Russians and Eastern Europeans, the Asians, Middle Easterners, white Israelis, etc. And include them in the "undocumented" or illegal category.
Actually we do, Parker. Lost opportunity for our people, is lost just the same. As a matter of fact, it would seem all the more insulting for someone from one of those places to be here, as it looks like they're operating on a lark or for some trivial ass reason. GTFO, you bastard, is the only appropriate message to them.
As for the Asians, they make sweatshops in our cities that are exactly like the shit shows they left. Um, sorry, but that's going in the wrong direction and it needs to be stopped and kept away.
Either we want this world to get better, or we don't. SO WHICH IS IT?
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Did you watch the video with the volume on?
The black dude clearly jumped on stage and told her it's ok, you can handle this just keep talking.
She's got some major health issues on top of her mental issues.
I did. And the Secret Service agent did say, "Your okay. You can handle it. Keep talking." The 'this' he was referring to was the disrupting animal activists.
We live in time when people do crazy stuff. There is good reason why both candidates, Hillary and Trump are protected by Secret Service agents. Trump asked for and was granted Secret Service protection last November. Presidential candidates normally get Secret Service 120 days prior to election day. By law, Clinton as a former First Lady has lifetime Secret Service protection.
"Hillary Clinton is a healthy 67-year-old woman who suffers from hypothyroidism, seasonal allergies and takes blood thinners as a precaution against clots, according to a two-page letter from her personal physician released Friday afternoon by her campaign."
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/hillary-clinton-health-excellent-doctor-letter-2016-campaign-120861
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Love to "deport" them on the end of my foot, in many cases.
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The Mental Illness of Liberalism on full display in this thread.
Roll out the Red Carpet for America Hating Moslems and Deadbeat Illegals from Mexico, but European Supermodels? They gotta go!
What liberal has said she's gotta go? The only reason this has become as big a deal as it has is because her husband is running for president of the US with an unrealistic anti-illegal immigration policy, and lo and behold, he married someone who was likely an illegal immigrant.
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So she's been caught with her 'panties down', big deal. It's certainly not a first for her. Her husband is a serial liar and a lot of folks don't care or are simply blind to it.
Trump should relegate Melania to the 'back seat' because she's not helping his campaign. Then again, the Donald never admits to anything even when he's been caught with his pants down. Hilary isn't much better.
To put it nicely, Politicians, whether amateur or experienced, fudge on the truth all the time. There is nothing new about this. Sometimes the public jumps on their lies and sometimes not.
All I read was Hillary isn't much better, lol. Anyone who thinks she is even the tiniest bit better (240) is absolutely
crazy.
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The real lol is that it happened during the Clinton administration, and that we're supposed to see it as worse than Hillary's desire to open the borders.
Stupid shit.
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Tell us more about the criminal element you associate with.......
My best friend when I first got to LA in the early 80s was Jesse Zamora. He was the youngest of seven boys, born in Juarez Mexico. His mother was Japanese and his father a proud Mexican. All his brothers looked Mexican, but only he looked mixed. His father insisted that his mother must have had an affair, and beat Jesse relentlessly. When Jesse was 14, his mom sent him to San Diego to live with cousins. He walked across the border into El Paso, and took a Greyhound bus to San Diego. Living with his cousins didn't work out and within a year he was on the streets. He moved to Hollywood, enrolled himself into Hollywood High, turning tricks on Selma Ave for rent money. Finished high school. Applied for a social security number and got it (little documentation was required at the time.) Tried to enlist in the army, but they did require a birth certificate. Went to college, got an LVN, then an RN then a bachelor's degree. Worked as an oncology nurse for Kaiser in Long Beach. 1986 amnesty came along, but one of the exceptions was no amnesty for HIV positive people. He talked to Gloria Alred who was not quite famous yet. She said, you already have a social security number and a job, why risk it. Then in 1990, he got MAC, Mycobacterium avium complex, an opportunistic infection that was rather common in the early days of AIDS. He checked himself into a hospice and basically starved himself to death. Which is really sad, as new meds for MAC appeared within a year, and protease inhibitors that made HIV manageable were available within three years.
I can tell you happier stories. A friend from an Arab country came here for graduate school, got infected (we older gays were not doing a good enough job teaching the younger gays how to stay negative. fortunately now there is PrEP), stayed past his student visa, as going back would have been a death sentence. After many years he finally got asylum.
I have other stories I can tell, but I'll stop for now.
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the thread is about Melania getting caught with her panties down, again
is it ok to actually discuss the fact that she is an illegal or are we required to ignore it when she fucks up?
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Could this be because illegal and legal Latinos are often linked with crime and violence? If African Americans were here illegally, many people would want to deport them too for the same reasons.
in 2000 the incarceration rate of foreign nationals was 3% lower than US nationals
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-mythical-connection-between-immigrants-and-crime-1436916798
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What liberal has said she's gotta go? The only reason this has become as big a deal as it has is because her husband is running for president of the US with an unrealistic anti-illegal immigration policy, and lo and behold, he married someone who was likely an illegal immigrant.
The playing field is level tho. If a mexican chick was hot she would be afforded the same blind eye benefits. Hot ass always suspends rules. Doesn't mean the rules shouldn't be enforced for the other 99%. It's not logically consistent but that's reality.
That's what Trump should say. "Hey, she was a model and she was suckin' my dick. Anyone who reports that to Immigration should be kicked out himself for being an idiot." People would respect his honesty. Maybe not women, but every guy would admit the truth of it.
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The playing field is level tho. If a mexican chick was hot she would be afforded the same blind eye benefits. Hot ass always suspends rules. Doesn't mean the rules shouldn't be enforced for the other 99%. It's not logically consistent but that's reality.
That's what Trump should say. "Hey, she was a model and she was suckin' my dick. Anyone who reports that to Immigration should be kicked out himself for being an idiot." People would respect his honesty. Maybe not women, but every guy would admit the truth of it.
If it's not logically consistent it's not a level playing field. I guess what you're trying to say is that it's not about being mexican, but yeah, what it really comes down to is " the ones we like can stay."
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Many alleged Americans should be shipped-out in the nearest crate, as well. But we'll have to save that for last.
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If it's not logically consistent it's not a level playing field. I guess what you're trying to say is that it's not about being mexican, but yeah, what it really comes down to is " the ones we like can stay."
What's with the "Probably"? It's not a fucking weather forecast. Either she was here illegally or she wasn't.
Here's the case for the latter:
In an interview with The Associated Press, agent Paolo Zampolli offered the most detailed description yet of how the wife of the Republican presidential nominee came into the country.
Donald Trump's presidential campaign repeatedly declined to clarify her comments. The campaign also declined to discuss Mrs. Trump's immigration history in detail or provide copies of any paperwork that would put the issue to rest.
Donald Trump has made illegal immigration a signature plank in his campaign platform, and his wife has often cited her path to U.S. citizenship in defense of his hard line, saying she came to the U.S. legally and other aspiring Americans should follow her example.
Zampolli said that while he was a partner at modeling agency Metropolitan Models, he secured a work visa for Mrs. Trump, who in the mid-1990s was named Melania Knauss.
"I know she was not working a paid job before she got the H-1B," Zampolli said, referring to the type of work visa that U.S. companies can obtain for "fashion models of distinguished merit and ability." H-1B visas generally allow a person to work and live in the U.S. for three years with the opportunity to renew the visas for another three years.
Zampolli said he based the H-1B application on Mrs. Trump's previous modeling work in Paris and Milan. "We used whatever she did before to get her a visa.
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Yeah, anyway. No big secret the policy-makers have allowed a breakdown in this regard. No one is shocked. They're creeps, after all.
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If it's not logically consistent it's not a level playing field. I guess what you're trying to say is that it's not about being mexican, but yeah, what it really comes down to is " the ones we like can stay."
Lol I guess. It's not like Trump is an otherwise stellar presidential candidate. What I'm driving at is the whole thing is an exercise is horseshit and I'm having fun watching it plop.
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Trump better be careful not to retake the lead. Hillary may order a hit on him, by the looks of things.
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Trump better be careful not to retake the lead. Hillary may order a hit on him, by the looks of things.
Order 66?
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cheetoface is going to give melania a hard one over this
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Order 66?
The Clintons must be extremely depressing people. Anyone who learns much about them, seems to commit suicide.
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My best friend when I first got to LA in the early 80s was Jesse Zamora. He was the youngest of seven boys, born in Juarez Mexico. His mother was Japanese and his father a proud Mexican. All his brothers looked Mexican, but only he looked mixed. His father insisted that his mother must have had an affair, and beat Jesse relentlessly. When Jesse was 14, his mom sent him to San Diego to live with cousins. He walked across the border into El Paso, and took a Greyhound bus to San Diego. Living with his cousins didn't work out and within a year he was on the streets. He moved to Hollywood, enrolled himself into Hollywood High, turning tricks on Selma Ave for rent money. Finished high school. Applied for a social security number and got it (little documentation was required at the time.) Tried to enlist in the army, but they did require a birth certificate. Went to college, got an LVN, then an RN then a bachelor's degree. Worked as an oncology nurse for Kaiser in Long Beach. 1986 amnesty came along, but one of the exceptions was no amnesty for HIV positive people. He talked to Gloria Alred who was not quite famous yet. She said, you already have a social security number and a job, why risk it. Then in 1990, he got MAC, Mycobacterium avium complex, an opportunistic infection that was rather common in the early days of AIDS. He checked himself into a hospice and basically starved himself to death. Which is really sad, as new meds for MAC appeared within a year, and protease inhibitors that made HIV manageable were available within three years.
I can tell you happier stories. A friend from an Arab country came here for graduate school, got infected (we older gays were not doing a good enough job teaching the younger gays how to stay negative. fortunately now there is PrEP), stayed past his student visa, as going back would have been a death sentence. After many years he finally got asylum.
I have other stories I can tell, but I'll stop for now.
I truly am sorry for your losses. This has absolutely nothing to do with the immigration problems and the border. It is a one in a million man bites dog story.
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Yes. I'm sorry, too.
But how is it that dick found its way into his ass? Was he unaware that behavior could kill him?
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What's with the "Probably"? It's not a fucking weather forecast. Either she was here illegally or she wasn't.
The "probably" is because we don't have all of the facts and even the article from which you quoted acknowledges that the modeling agent's statements don't clear anything up. The excerpts you posted don't clarify the inconsistencies with Melania Trump's account of her immigration history and the statement she released doesn't address the inconsistencies, either, only denies them.
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Who cares about that? Here's a probably for you: Democrats want to elect someone President who probably has Parkinson's disease or has suffered some recent strokes, also probably caused an Iranian nuclear client it's who was helping the US with info to probably get hanged because she definitely was careless with info about the guy maintained on her insecure server.
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I mean, it's hypocritical and that's messed up. Really much ado about nothing though.
This is hardly the smoking bullet that stops Trump. It's just another small thing added on.
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I doubt she's illegal in any way but what most people do my realize is that entering the country legally and overstaying a visa is way better than crossing illegally.
not really
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Who cares about that? Here's a probably for you: Democrats want to elect someone President who probably has Parkinson's disease or has suffered some recent strokes, also probably caused an Iranian nuclear client it's who was helping the US with info to probably get hanged because she definitely was careless with info about the guy maintained on her insecure server.
It's related to his platform. :-\ Stricter immigration policies is probably his most identifiable position. Obviously, it's not going to be a big deal to everyone, but it does confirm what everyone already thought about his policies . It really can't be argued that Melania is the best or brightest or added value to the economy.
What's funny is that the "probablys" you mention in regards to Clinton don't really have anything to do with her politics or her ability to govern. At one point, I was just apathetic about a Clinton vs Trump election and it was a choice between the lesser of two bad choices. I don't feel that way anymore. Trump is clearly a terrible choice who would not be capable of the job even if he actually wanted it.
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This is Never1ashow every time he talks about Hillary
(http://i.makeagif.com/media/10-04-2015/qoqE0D.gif)
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not really
No it is.
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No it is.
Nah. Illegal is illegal.
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Nah. Illegal is illegal.
You guys are not understanding, not sure why I bother. Go back and read my post about marrying a chick who overstayed her visa vs a chick who entered the country illegally.
I never knew this until last year at work we had a client at work in this situation.
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You guys are not understanding, not sure why I bother. Go back and read my post about marrying a chick who overstayed her visa vs a chick who entered the country illegally.
I never knew this until last year at work we had a client at work in this situation.
i see what you are saying.
I have to disagree though. Either you're illegal or you're legal.
Sure she was legal, then became illegal, but it's still illegal.
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This has absolutely nothing to do with the immigration problems and the border. It is a one in a million man bites dog story.
I disagree. Most undocumented immigrants are hard working and only want a better life. "But they broke the law" by coming here, you say. How many laws have you broken this year? This is a bodybuilding board. Every national level competition bodybuilder in the US has broken the law. "But they're taking away our jobs" you say. Farm workers, cleaning ladies and gardeners are filling jobs no one else want. "But they're suppressing wages" you say. All those H1B visas are doing more to suppress wages than those illegal immigrants.
You might find this article on another time anti-immigrant sentiment tried to "make america great again". The target was Italian immigrants.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/adamserwer/how-an-1891-mass-lynching-tried-to-make-america-great-again
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You guys are not understanding, not sure why I bother. Go back and read my post about marrying a chick who overstayed her visa vs a chick who entered the country illegally.
Melania entered the country on a tourist visa, and then took a job. That is technically illegal.
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i see what you are saying.
I have to disagree though. Either you're illegal or you're legal.
Sure she was legal, then became illegal, but it's still illegal.
It's not my opinion or value judgement it is how it is. Period.
I'm not saying one is better than the other but the law/system views them different. You opinion and mine does not matter.
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It's not my opinion or value judgement it is how it is. Period.
I'm not saying one is better than the other but the law/system views them different. You opinion and mine does not matter.
The system can view them differently. I'm not arguing that.
People who smoke weed are viewed differently than people who smoke crack.
In almost all states, both are still illegal.
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People who smoke weed are viewed differently than people who smoke crack.
not to the police
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Melania entered the country on a tourist visa, and then took a job. That is technically illegal.
Quoting this because it seems as if people are missing some of the technicalities. As far as we know, she was never in the country illegally. She worked illegally. She likely would not have gotten her green card if this information was known.
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not to the police
Depends on the officer.
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Are you dipshits trying to say Trump shouldn't have fallen in love with her? What is it that you're saying?
???
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Quoting this because it seems as if people are missing some of the technicalities. As far as we know, she was never in the country illegally. She worked illegally. She likely would not have gotten her green card if this information was known.
any news on the rumor she married someone else for a green card a year before marrying trump?
She denied it. Curious. If no divorce, we're talking bigamy here.
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1) why ?
2) the vast majority of undocumented immigrants flew into the US on a tourist or student visa. That's why the suggestion of a wall is so stupid.
Show the data to back this up
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Lots of liberal frustrated homos hating on Melania's hot ass, jealous that she gets all the Trump cock.
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any news on the rumor she married someone else for a green card a year before marrying trump?
She denied it. Curious. If no divorce, we're talking bigamy here.
It's weird how these stories broke on a Friday night? During the opening ceremony of the Olympics? At Univision?
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Show the data to back this up
Don't you know the Mexicans who come to work the fields in CA fly first class into Gilroy from Tijuana?
Tim and his fellow Libs think taxpayers really should pay for the plane tickets.
And give citizenship when the plane lands
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She may have broken immigration law by working on a tourist visa. Then again, maybe she didn't work on a tourist visa.
I'm no Trump fan, but if this is all Democrats have on him, they're in big trouble when compared to what Republicans have on Hillary.
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She may have broken immigration law by working on a tourist visa. Then again, maybe she didn't work on a tourist visa.
I'm no Trump fan, but if this is all Democrats have on him, they're in big trouble when compared to what Republicans have on Hillary.
Do you follow American politics at all?
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I'm no Trump fan, but if this is all Democrats have on him, they're in big trouble when compared to what Republicans have on Hillary.
It's 2016. Dems KNOW Hilary is a criminal, but fear WWIII from trump worse.
It's 2016. Repubs KNOW Trump is a shady bullshitter liberal erratic dummy, but they fear hilary corruption worse.
Demonization really doesn't work anymore.
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Yes, the same ppl who want to give 'migrants' (aka illegal aliens) hero status, are now fixed on this.
Sorry, stupids. You're trying to work with a shot wad, for one thing. And it involves a man and his wife, so you've got no ammo.
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Yes, the same ppl who want to give 'migrants' (aka illegal aliens) hero status, are now fixed on this.
Sorry, stupids. You're trying to work with a shot wad, for one thing. And it involves a man and his wife, so you've got no ammo.
Bill Clinton spoke for 3 hours at the DNC Convention about what a wonderful, amazing, caring woman Hillary Clinton is.
If that is true Bill....why do you cheat on her so often?
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Do you follow American politics at all?
I do and I heard the FBI Director say that Hillary was extremely careless with classified information, yet, we're all supposed to be deathly afraid of Trump.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/05/politics/fbi-director-doesnt-recommend-charges-against-hillary-clinton/ (http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/05/politics/fbi-director-doesnt-recommend-charges-against-hillary-clinton/)
FBI director: Hillary Clinton 'extremely careless' but no charges recommended - CNNPolitics.com
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I do and I heard the FBI Director say that Hillary was extremely careless with classified information, yet, we're all supposed to be deathly afraid of Trump.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/05/politics/fbi-director-doesnt-recommend-charges-against-hillary-clinton/ (http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/05/politics/fbi-director-doesnt-recommend-charges-against-hillary-clinton/)
FBI director: Hillary Clinton 'extremely careless' but no charges recommended - CNNPolitics.com
Ask the family members of the Iranian scientist that was executed because of Hillary's email leaks what they think about her being "extremely careless".
Anyone else would be in jail.
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Bill Clinton spoke for 3 hours at the DNC Convention about what a wonderful, amazing, caring woman Hillary Clinton is.
If that is true Bill....why do you cheat on her so often?
I would love to see him asked that question. It would be the funniest thing in the world to see his expression change when it sinks in.
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I do and I heard the FBI Director say that Hillary was extremely careless with classified information, yet, we're all supposed to be deathly afraid of Trump.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/05/politics/fbi-director-doesnt-recommend-charges-against-hillary-clinton/ (http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/05/politics/fbi-director-doesnt-recommend-charges-against-hillary-clinton/)
FBI director: Hillary Clinton 'extremely careless' but no charges recommended - CNNPolitics.com
??? ??? What do you think this part of that article meant:
"Our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case," Comey announced after a lengthy recap of the investigation apparently designed to protect the integrity of his agency in a highly charged political atmosphere.
Comey's decision not to recommend charges likely removes the threat of prosecution in the middle of Clinton's campaign for the presidency, but the political fallout will continue. His explicit criticism of Clinton's conduct offered her enemies a trove of fresh ammunition for their assault on her character, honesty and trustworthiness — one of her biggest vulnerabilities.
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Ask the family members of the Iranian scientist that was executed because of Hillary's email leaks what they think about her being "extremely careless".
Anyone else would be in jail.
His death had nothing to do with Clinton's emails. The scientist outed himself to the Iranian embassy.
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Bill Clinton spoke for 3 hours at the DNC Convention about what a wonderful, amazing, caring woman Hillary Clinton is.
If that is true Bill....why do you cheat on her so often?
LOL this one makes me laugh. She's 70 and gross. I do'nt care if she's the sweetest old lady in the world (which she is not)...
Bill Clinton is a hound, he's banged anything he could for decades. I am sure he's pretty devoted to hilary, he just likes new ass continually.
Let any of us be married for 50 years, and wonder if our junk stirs for a new chick, even if we love the one we have spent 50 years with.
LOTS Of reasons to shit on the clintons - but I think bill can admire/love her and still want to get some strange simultaneously.
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She may have broken immigration law by working on a tourist visa. Then again, maybe she didn't work on a tourist visa.
I'm no Trump fan, but if this is all Democrats have on him, they're in big trouble when compared to what Republicans have on Hillary.
question for you, if this was Obama and Michele would the republicans react any different?
let me refresh your memory:
Trump.. Obama is a Muslim
Obama.. I am not a Muslim, never have been
Trump.. Obama is a Muslim I don't care what he says
Trump... release the birth certificate.
Obama.. OK, here it is..
Trump.. I don't care, it must be fake.. release the real birth certificate
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Ask the family members of the Iranian scientist that was executed because of Hillary's email leaks what they think about her being "extremely careless".
Anyone else would be in jail.
Damn, I heard the story but didn't know it was the emails that gave him away.
Meanwhile, in the Liberal Paradise of Venezuala.
Animals Starving in Venezuela Zoos
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/07/animals-starve-in-venezuela-zoos/ (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/07/animals-starve-in-venezuela-zoos/)
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Damn, I heard the story but didn't know it was the emails that gave him away.
It wasn't. He gave himself away voluntarily.
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This is such a bullshit diversion. Irritating. Other than the brief modeling job she may or may not have received any money for (photographer says no and there are no payment records so its completely unsubstantiated), she did everything legally to get VISA and then become a citizen thereafter. We have a real illegal immigrant problem, which hurts American workers, American taxpayers, and it looks nothing like this. Additionally, she is proud to be American, learned the language, worked & paid taxes and doesn't cry about benefits and waving a Slovenian flag protesting.
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Here is a typical Republican retort!!
Hillary Clinton: With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they’d they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator. Now, honestly, I will do my best to answer your questions about this, but the fact is that people were trying in real time to get to the best information. The IC has a process, I understand, going with the other committees to explain how these talking points came out. But you know, to be clear, it is, from my perspective, less important today looking backwards as to why these militants decided they did it than to find them and bring them to justice, and then maybe we’ll figure out what was going on in the meantime.
Trump: Hillary says "what does it matter when American soliders die"
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??? ??? What do you think this part of that article meant:
Doesn't change the fact that she was extremely careless.
Much in the same way "Hatas gonna hate," Excuse makers gonna make excuses. Libs have elevated excuse making into an art form.
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Doesn't change the fact that she was extremely careless.
Much in the same way "Hatas gonna hate," Excuse makers gonna make excuses. Libs have elevated excuse making into an art form.
That would actually be the domain of cons, who are all also quite skilled at false equivalencies, situational standards and deflection.
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That would actually be the domain of cons, who are all also quite skilled at false equivalencies, situational standards and deflection.
The drug laws make us do it.
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The drug laws make us do it.
Why do you even have an opinion on this? Have you ever even run for office? Didn't think so.
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any news on the rumor she married someone else for a green card a year before marrying trump?
any news on the rumor she married Trump for his money ?
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All I read was Hillary isn't much better, lol. Anyone who thinks she is even the tiniest bit better (240) is absolutely
crazy.
I should have defined what I meant about her being not much better. I was strictly referencing their honesty. If Hillary's lied (and I suspect she has) she's done a better job of it. The whole idea is to not get caught in a lie. The Trumps are caught lying almost daily, it seems. With Hillary it all about those missing emails. Being secretive is tantamount to lying by omission. Frankly, it a better way to lie. Even when caught, omission can be explained as a loss of memory. When folks blatantly lie and then contradict themselves as have the Trumps, it gives them away as liars. There's no covering these lies up.
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the thread is about Melania getting caught with her panties down, again
is it ok to actually discuss the fact that she is an illegal or are we required to ignore it when she fucks up?
Yet Clinton was in charge. So how does her fuck-up compare to his, again?
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Yet Clinton was in charge. So how does her fuck-up compare to his, again?
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What are we talking about here?
I really am confused at the points people are making. They are getting convoluted. Do you mean "Bill" was in charge, and we are comparing hers to his?
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What are we talking about here?
I really am confused at the points people are making. They are getting convoluted. Do you mean "Bill" was in charge, and we are comparing hers to his?
It is a matter of realism versus some painfully distorted "point" about hypocrisy. It is one of the most ridiculous things I've seen in my life.
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My best friend when I first got to LA in the early 80s was Jesse Zamora. He was the youngest of seven boys, born in Juarez Mexico. His mother was Japanese and his father a proud Mexican. All his brothers looked Mexican, but only he looked mixed. His father insisted that his mother must have had an affair, and beat Jesse relentlessly. When Jesse was 14, his mom sent him to San Diego to live with cousins. He walked across the border into El Paso, and took a Greyhound bus to San Diego. Living with his cousins didn't work out and within a year he was on the streets. He moved to Hollywood, enrolled himself into Hollywood High, turning tricks on Selma Ave for rent money. Finished high school. Applied for a social security number and got it (little documentation was required at the time.) Tried to enlist in the army, but they did require a birth certificate. Went to college, got an LVN, then an RN then a bachelor's degree. Worked as an oncology nurse for Kaiser in Long Beach. 1986 amnesty came along, but one of the exceptions was no amnesty for HIV positive people. He talked to Gloria Alred who was not quite famous yet. She said, you already have a social security number and a job, why risk it. Then in 1990, he got MAC, Mycobacterium avium complex, an opportunistic infection that was rather common in the early days of AIDS. He checked himself into a hospice and basically starved himself to death. Which is really sad, as new meds for MAC appeared within a year, and protease inhibitors that made HIV manageable were available within three years.
I can tell you happier stories. A friend from an Arab country came here for graduate school, got infected (we older gays were not doing a good enough job teaching the younger gays how to stay negative. fortunately now there is PrEP), stayed past his student visa, as going back would have been a death sentence. After many years he finally got asylum.
I have other stories I can tell, but I'll stop for now.
These are good stories. It is such a shame that many young people don't practice safe sex. I've lost a few friends to AIDS over the years. It is sad when someone dies regardless of what they die from.
I only know one person who has political asylum. He's from South America. I'm not sure which country, but he maintains if he were to return there, it would result in his death.
Homosexuality is legal in almost all South American countries. In the two countries where it is illegal (Belize and Guyana), but it is not punishable by death.
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in 2000 the incarceration rate of foreign nationals was 3% lower than US nationals
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-mythical-connection-between-immigrants-and-crime-1436916798
A correction is in order. I should have inserted the word perception. Someone once said that perception is everything. Many folks don't care if a statement is accurate as long as it supports what they already believe.
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Yes. I'm sorry, too.
But how is it that dick found its way into his ass? Was he unaware that behavior could kill him?
-Seems apparent. However you'd have to know when he became infected, not when he got sick. If it was in the very early 80's he as with many other folks might not have been aware of the possible ramifications of having unprotected sex.
It is also possible that he was aware, but believed himself invincible. There are more than a few Getbiggers who brag about "going raw". These people are either incredibly stupid or they honestly believe HIV couldn't happen to them....especially when they are straight. The percentage of heterosexual men with HIV in 2010 was approximately 30%.
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Yet Clinton was in charge. So how does her fuck-up compare to his, again?
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the thread title says "melania" it's not that complicated
you want to talk about bill clinton?
start a new thread!
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What are we talking about here?
I really am confused at the points people are making. They are getting convoluted. Do you mean "Bill" was in charge, and we are comparing hers to his?
I'm confused too?
what the fuck is going on here???
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It is a matter of realism versus some painfully distorted "point" about hypocrisy. It is one of the most ridiculous things I've seen in my life.
I still don't think I understand the question or statement.
It really has become a bit tangled in the conversation right now.
Perhaps I should just bow out.
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Quoting this because it seems as if people are missing some of the technicalities. As far as we know, she was never in the country illegally. She worked illegally. She likely would not have gotten her green card if this information was known.
And this is because....if she violated the conditions of her visitor's visa, she committed fraud. There is no legal punishment for people who lie during their partner's political campaign, as is probably the case with Melania Trump. It's up to the voting public what the consequences will be.
This one goes to Calfzilla.
"How Can I Get a Work Visa?
There are several different types of work visas that may be available to you based upon your qualifications and immigration situation.
One visa that many foreign workers pursue is the H-1B visa. The H-1B allows a foreign worker to temporarily work for a U.S. employer in a specialty occupation.
To apply for an H-1B, your employer must file an I-129 petition with USCIS. In this petition, your employer will note that you are already in the U.S. in B-1 or B-2 status, and will ask that USCIS do two things: (1) change your status to that of H-1B and (2) extend your status for a specified period of time (usually three years) so that you can work for the employer.
Since you are not authorized to work in the U.S. while on B-1 or B-2 status, you must change your status to one that allows you to work in the United States. (You file this application with United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, or “USCIS”). If you file your change of status application, you are deemed to be maintaining lawful status while your application is pending, even if your B1/2 status expires."
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And this is because....if she violated the conditions of her visitor's visa, she committed fraud. There is no legal punishment for people who lie during their partner's political campaign, as is probably the case with Melania Trump. It's up to the voting public what the consequences will be.
This one goes to Calfzilla.
"How Can I Get a Work Visa?
There are several different types of work visas that may be available to you based upon your qualifications and immigration situation.
One visa that many foreign workers pursue is the H-1B visa. The H-1B allows a foreign worker to temporarily work for a U.S. employer in a specialty occupation.
To apply for an H-1B, your employer must file an I-129 petition with USCIS. In this petition, your employer will note that you are already in the U.S. in B-1 or B-2 status, and will ask that USCIS do two things: (1) change your status to that of H-1B and (2) extend your status for a specified period of time (usually three years) so that you can work for the employer.
Since you are not authorized to work in the U.S. while on B-1 or B-2 status, you must change your status to one that allows you to work in the United States. (You file this application with United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, or “USCIS”). If you file your change of status application, you are deemed to be maintaining lawful status while your application is pending, even if your B1/2 status expires."
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Lots of liberal frustrated homos hating on Melania's hot ass, jealous that she gets all the Trump cock.
Yikes! Most "homos" would not want "the Trump cock" even if it were handed to them on a silver platter. Your theory reads like a horror story.
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Bill Clinton spoke for 3 hours at the DNC Convention about what a wonderful, amazing, caring woman Hillary Clinton is.
If that is true Bill....why do you cheat on her so often?
Watch what they do, not what they say. Mathis is similar to how the left and liberals absolutely hate Teump with a passion. That's great evidence that he ain't no liberal or leftist and would not enact all the loony things the left wants. They are afraid that their days of radical group identity politics is ending.
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I only know one person who has political asylum. He's from South America. I'm not sure which country, but he maintains if he were to return there, it would result in his death.
Unable to get meds would be a death sentence. Right now it is virtually impossible to get meds in Venezuela.
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Unable to get meds would be a death sentence. Right now it is virtually impossible to get meds in Venezuela.
Hmm....I don't think I will pursue this with him....could be an embarrassment depending on what the meds are for.
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I still don't think I understand the question or statement.
It really has become a bit tangled in the conversation right now.
Perhaps I should just bow out.
It means the Clinton backers trying to make a case for hypocrisy against Trump in this situation, have lost their minds.
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the thread title says "melania" it's not that complicated
you want to talk about bill clinton?
start a new thread!
If you aren't trying to use this to "show" why Trump is an inferior choice to Clinton, then perhaps you could remind me exactly wtf it is you think you're doing.
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If you aren't trying to use this to "show" why Trump is an inferior choice to Clinton, then perhaps you could remind me exactly wtf it is you think you're doing.
wow holy shit so confusing melania clinton trump wtf?!?!?
keep to the topic melania did something wrong and got caught again
we need to explore this subject in detail!!
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wow holy shit so confusing melania clinton trump wtf?!?!?
keep to the topic melania did something wrong and got caught again
we need to explore this subject in detail!!
Fact is, it is Clinton vs. Trump. Unless you know something to say different.
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Fact is, it is Clinton vs. Trump. Unless you know something to say different.
SEEMS YOU'RE HELLBENT ON CHANGING THE SUBJECT
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SEEMS YOU'RE HELLBENT ON CHANGING THE SUBJECT
Not if the subject is "see, here's why Trump is an inferior candidate to Clinton".
Which we know, exactly, is meant to be the subject.
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Made by a guy named red gook (or something).
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Not if the subject is "see, here's why Trump is an inferior candidate to Clinton".
Which we know, exactly, is meant to be the subject.
we have other threads for that, I'd like to invite you participate in the TRUMP LOVES PECKER thread where such matters can be discussed. We are here to talk about melania and her exploitation of the US immigration system. Seems she's an illegal immigrant or at least she has acted questionably in her efforts to become a citizen. not sure if she used an illegal visa or was married. maybe she paid someone to marry her or it was a deal where she simply provided sexual services in exchange for an agreement to marry her. maybe she was a mail order bride? who knows!??!
we need to get to the bottom of this asap.