Melania Trump Probably An Illegal Immigrant

[Las Vegas]

Trump better be careful not to retake the lead.  Hillary may order a hit on him, by the looks of things.

[Kwon]

Trump better be careful not to retake the lead.  Hillary may order a hit on him, by the looks of things.

Order 66?

[mr.turbo]

cheetoface is going to give melania a hard one over this

[Las Vegas]

Order 66?

The Clintons must be extremely depressing people.  Anyone who learns much about them, seems to commit suicide.

[Never1AShow]

My best friend when I first got to LA in the early 80s was Jesse Zamora.  He was the youngest of seven boys, born in Juarez Mexico.  His mother was Japanese and his father a proud Mexican.  All his brothers looked Mexican, but only he looked mixed.  His father insisted that his mother must have had an affair, and beat Jesse relentlessly.  When Jesse was 14, his mom sent him to San Diego to live with cousins.  He walked across the border into El Paso, and took a Greyhound bus to San Diego.  Living with his cousins didn't work out and within a year he was on the streets.  He moved to Hollywood, enrolled himself into Hollywood High, turning tricks on Selma Ave for rent money.  Finished high school.  Applied for a social security number and got it (little documentation was required at the time.)  Tried to enlist in the army, but they did require a birth certificate.  Went to college, got an LVN, then an RN then a bachelor's degree.  Worked as an oncology nurse for Kaiser in Long Beach.  1986 amnesty came along, but one of the exceptions was no amnesty for HIV positive people.  He talked to Gloria Alred who was not quite famous yet.  She said, you already have a social security number and a job, why risk it.  Then in 1990, he got MAC, Mycobacterium avium complex, an opportunistic infection that was rather common in the early days of AIDS.  He checked himself into a hospice and basically starved himself to death.  Which is really sad, as new meds for MAC appeared within a year, and protease inhibitors that made HIV manageable were available within three years.  

I can tell you happier stories.  A friend from an Arab country came here for graduate school, got infected (we older gays were not doing a good enough job teaching the younger gays how to stay negative.  fortunately now there is PrEP), stayed past his student visa, as going back would have been a death sentence.  After many years he finally got asylum.

I have other stories I can tell, but I'll stop for now.

I truly am sorry for your losses.  This has absolutely nothing to do with the immigration problems and the border.  It is a one in a million man bites dog story.

[Las Vegas]

Yes.  I'm sorry, too.

But how is it that dick found its way into his ass?  Was he unaware that behavior could kill him?

[Al Doggity]

What's with the "Probably"? It's not a fucking weather forecast. Either she was here illegally or she wasn't.

The "probably" is because we don't have all of the facts and even the article from which you quoted acknowledges that the modeling agent's statements don't clear anything up. The excerpts you posted don't clarify the inconsistencies with Melania Trump's account of her immigration history and the statement she released doesn't address the inconsistencies, either, only denies them.

[Never1AShow]

Who cares about that?  Here's a probably for you: Democrats want to elect someone President who probably has Parkinson's disease or has suffered some recent strokes, also probably caused an Iranian nuclear client it's who was helping the US with info to probably get hanged because she definitely was careless with info about the guy maintained on her insecure server.

[TuHolmes]

I mean, it's hypocritical and that's messed up. Really much ado about nothing though.

This is hardly the smoking bullet that stops Trump. It's just another small thing added on.

[hardgainerj]

I doubt she's illegal in any way but what most people do my realize is that entering the country legally and overstaying a visa is way better than crossing illegally.

not really

[Al Doggity]

Who cares about that?  Here's a probably for you: Democrats want to elect someone President who probably has Parkinson's disease or has suffered some recent strokes, also probably caused an Iranian nuclear client it's who was helping the US with info to probably get hanged because she definitely was careless with info about the guy maintained on her insecure server.

It's related to his platform.   Stricter immigration policies is probably his most identifiable position. Obviously, it's not going to be a big deal to everyone, but it does confirm what everyone already thought about his policies . It really can't be argued that Melania is the best or brightest or added value to the economy.


What's funny is that the "probablys"  you mention in regards to Clinton don't really have anything to do with her politics or her ability to govern. At one point, I was just apathetic about a Clinton vs Trump election and it was a choice between the lesser of two bad choices. I don't feel that way anymore. Trump is clearly a terrible choice who would not be capable of the job even if he actually wanted it.

[SF1900]

This is Never1ashow every time he talks about Hillary

[calfzilla]

not really

No it is.

[TuHolmes]

No it is.

Nah. Illegal is illegal.

[calfzilla]

Nah. Illegal is illegal.

You guys are not understanding, not sure why I bother. Go back and read my post about marrying a chick who overstayed her visa vs a chick who entered the country illegally.

I never knew this until last year at work we had a client at work in this situation.

[TuHolmes]

You guys are not understanding, not sure why I bother. Go back and read my post about marrying a chick who overstayed her visa vs a chick who entered the country illegally.

I never knew this until last year at work we had a client at work in this situation.

i see what you are saying.

I have to disagree though. Either you're illegal or you're legal.

Sure she was legal, then became illegal, but it's still illegal.

[timfogarty]

This has absolutely nothing to do with the immigration problems and the border.  It is a one in a million man bites dog story.

I disagree.  Most undocumented immigrants are hard working and only want a better life.  "But they broke the law" by coming here, you say.  How many laws have you broken this year?  This is a bodybuilding board.  Every national level competition bodybuilder in the US has broken the law. "But they're taking away our jobs" you say. Farm workers, cleaning ladies and gardeners are filling jobs no one else want.  "But they're suppressing wages" you say.  All those H1B visas are doing more to suppress wages than those illegal immigrants.

You might find this article on another time anti-immigrant sentiment tried to "make america great again".  The target was Italian immigrants.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/adamserwer/how-an-1891-mass-lynching-tried-to-make-america-great-again

[timfogarty]

You guys are not understanding, not sure why I bother. Go back and read my post about marrying a chick who overstayed her visa vs a chick who entered the country illegally.

Melania entered the country on a tourist visa, and then took a job.  That is technically illegal.

[calfzilla]

i see what you are saying.

I have to disagree though. Either you're illegal or you're legal.

Sure she was legal, then became illegal, but it's still illegal.

It's not my opinion or value judgement it is how it is. Period.  

I'm not saying one is better than the other but the law/system views them different. You opinion and mine does not matter.

[TuHolmes]

It's not my opinion or value judgement it is how it is. Period.  

I'm not saying one is better than the other but the law/system views them different. You opinion and mine does not matter.

The system can view them differently. I'm not arguing that.

People who smoke weed are viewed differently than people who smoke crack.

In almost all states, both are still illegal.

[timfogarty]

People who smoke weed are viewed differently than people who smoke crack.

not to the police

[Al Doggity]

Melania entered the country on a tourist visa, and then took a job.  That is technically illegal.

Quoting this because it seems as if people are missing some of the technicalities. As far as we know, she was never in the country illegally. She worked illegally. She likely would not have gotten her green card if this information was known.

[TuHolmes]

not to the police

Depends on the officer.

[Las Vegas]

Are you dipshits trying to say Trump shouldn't have fallen in love with her?  What is it that you're saying?

[240 is Back]

Quoting this because it seems as if people are missing some of the technicalities. As far as we know, she was never in the country illegally. She worked illegally. She likely would not have gotten her green card if this information was known.

any news on the rumor she married someone else for a green card a year before marrying trump?

She denied it.  Curious.  If no divorce, we're talking bigamy here.