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Today’s men are not nearly as strong as their dads were, researchers say
By Christopher Ingraham
A man’s hands say a lot about him. My own father, at 66, still has the calloused, gnarled hands of a guy who did competitive weightlifting in college and spent much of his career grappling with 1,500-pound dairy cattle as a large animal veterinarian. I, on the other hand, have the soft palms of a modern-day desk jockey. My hands are delicate, well-moisturized, and prone to blisters if I spend too much time in the garden.
And I’m not the only one. A new study in press at the Journal of Hand Therapy (yes, a real thing) finds that millennial men may have significantly weaker hands and arms than men the same age did 30 years ago.
Researchers measured the grip strength (how strongly you can squeeze something) and pinch strength (how strongly you can pinch something between two fingers) of 237 healthy full-time students aged 20 to 34 at universities in North Carolina. And especially among males, the reduction in strength compared to 30 years ago was striking.
The average 20-to-34-year-old today, for instance, was able to apply 98 pounds of force when gripping something with his right hand. In 1985, the average man could squeeze with 117 pounds of force.
Now, there is a caveat here. The participants in the North Carolina study were recruited from college and university settings, so they’re not representative of the population as a whole. If you were to look exclusively at young adults who never went to college, for instance, you might get different results.
The 1985 study wasn’t nationally representative either. It was built using volunteers from an area around Milwaukee. Many of those volunteers in the 20-to-34 age range were recruited from a university setting.
The North Carolina findings generally comport with what other research has shown. For instance, a 2013 study found that children today are less physically fit than they were 30 years ago. And the grip strength numbers reported in the North Carolina study are similar to numbers reported in a nationally-representative sample of adults the same age, although the two studies are not directly comparable because of differences in methodology.
In the North Carolina study, the differences over time were least pronounced among older millennials (ages 30 to 34), who squeezed with 11 fewer pounds of pressure than men in that age group squeezed in 1985. The biggest deficit was seen among men ages 25 to 29, who could only grip with 25 pounds fewer force than their forebears.
Modern-day men’s deficiencies in pinching pressure were less pronounced, but still observable.
Grip strength isn’t quite the same thing as benching 200 pounds or doing a set of squats. But researchers have found it to be a great predictor of a lot of other strength and health related outcomes. So it’s a useful proxy for overall muscular strength.
Millennial women fared much less worse in the study. Their average right-hand grip force is roughly the same today as it was 30 years ago, at about 75 pounds. Millennial women between 30 to 34 actually squeezed much harder than their forebears did, coming in at 98 pounds of force compared to 79 pounds in 1985. But this was offset by decreases in strength among younger millennial women.
To look at it another way: In 1985, the typical 30-to-34-year-old man could squeeze your hand with 31 pounds more force than the typical woman of that age could. But today, older millennial men and women are roughly equal when it comes to grip strength.
So what’s going on here: a crisis of masculinity? A mass-effiminization of the American male? Not exactly. The biggest driver, as alluded to above, is likely changes in Americans’ work habits. In the 1980s, men were more likely to be employed in jobs involving manual labor than they are today. Less daily physical activity means less overall strength — and incidentally, more weight gain, too.
The study doesn’t show the same decline among women partially because women were less likely to be doing jobs involving manual labor to begin with, and also because women’s labor force participation has increased since the 1980s. Changes in women’s daily physical activity over the past 30 years appear to be much less drastic than changes for men. And those changes are reflected in these measurements of strength.
This all may have implications for the current generation’s health outcomes down the road. Grip strength is a strong predictor of mortality in later life. If decreases in grip strength are reflective of an overall trend toward less physical activity, we may start to see that show up in changes in male life expectancy.
Already, American life expectancy numbers are starting to plateau and decline. If these strength numbers are any indication, we might expect life spans to shrink even further in the coming years.
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luckily, getbiggers do not fall into that category.
the rest of this soft ass twinkie generation... yes, definitely true. They're holding a smart phone when their parents were holding tools.
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Haha at this fag thinking a vet is a rough and tough job that gave him hard calloused hands ::) a day of manually breaking out and carrying concrete would destroy this old fags "tough" hands. Plenty of us still work with our hands it's not that uncommon
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Haha at this fag thinking a vet is a rough and tough job that gave him hard calloused hands ::) a day of manually breaking out and carrying concrete would destroy this old fags "tough" hands. Plenty of us still work with our hands it's not that uncommon
You do know that this was an article, and there is no mention of the writer's sexuality?
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Simple explanation is that there are more jobs today that require much less physical labor.
However, I still believe the majority of young men today are being socially engineered/feminized... mentally and physically.
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You do know that this was an article, and there is no mention of the writer's sexuality?
Yes I know this was and article and not the writing of GayBm who is a known homosexual, I meant fag in the soft feminine sense and not the actual homo meaning
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This is a crock of shit. The Boomer generation is the most unfit ever. These people spent their whole lives watching TV, smoking, eating shit food and not exercising.
Jack Lalanne at 70 was swimming across bays while towing 50 rowboats. Today's 70 year old, both male and female, needs a Winnie Walker to get from the couch to the can. Sure, there are some older people in good shape, but they're exceptions. The rule is a broken down mess.
Look for this bunch to completely bankrupt Medicare which is already bleeding money.
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Test levels have been dropping dramatically over the last 75 years as well
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bay
do you ever post a opinion or does being a gay limit you to just copying and pasting articles?
i don't ask that rhetorically btw.......I mean---If I want articles, I'll google them
forums are a wonderful way to get OPINIONS of unique people.....it's like such a waste to just be a copy and paste machine.......oh, and you suck cock and you are also the N-word
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.....the "er" one.....not the "a" one
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I use gloves at the gym and oils and lotions to keep my hands soft and beautiful but that doesn't mean I am not strong.
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If you can't put a cigarette out on your calloused hand without even feeling it, then you aren't a man.
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Test levels have been dropping dramatically over the last 75 years as well
I think this has to do with the feminizing of men through social engineering. Wiggs will back me on this. It won't be long before men will be full on bitches. Just like the male seahorse carries the baby. It was probably brow beat into submission by feminist sea horses.
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If you can't put a cigarette out on your calloused hand without even feeling it, then you aren't a man.
No problem, as long as it's not my own hand.
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Modern twink beta f ags.
Me, I listen to metal, lift iron and live alone, away from a squaking wife and grumpy daughters (men with wives and daughters/kids have markedly lower T levels). I watch manly movies and am a large, bald headed bull.
Today, young men shave their balls, tint their hair and shape their eyebrows. Let broads push them around. Liberal fellas left and right tolerating Islam.
As Clint says, this is the Pussy Generation.
Men need to blast MANOWAR and man the fuck up.
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And the example you provide of a "modern" fit man is a steroid using loser with Gyno bitch tits...
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=614829.0;attach=686211;image)
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Modern twink beta f ags.
Me, I listen metal, lift iron and live alone, away from a squaking wife and grumpy daughters (men with wives and daughters/kids have markedly lower T levels). I watch manly movies and am a large, bald headed bull.
Today, young men shave their balls, tint their hair and shape their eyebrows. Let broads push them around. Liberal fellas left and right tolerating Islam.
As Clint says, this is the Pussy Generation.
Men need to blast MANOWAR and man the fuck up.
You really shouldn't try to be a man. It screams insecurity. I always chuckle at those men who TRY to be a man.
Being a man (whatever that means) should just come naturally.
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You really shouldn't try to be a man. It screams insecurity. I always chuckle at those men who TRY to be a man.
Being a man (whatever that means) should just come naturally.
Speaking from experience? You gave up trying a long time ago :)
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I don't try to be a man.
I am one.
My pursuits and interests have always been manly.
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I don't try to be a man.
I am one.
My pursuits and interests have always been manly.
Do you wake up and punch a wall? ??? ??? ??? :D :D ;D ;D
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bay
do you ever post a opinion or does being a gay limit you to just copying and pasting articles?
i don't ask that rhetorically btw.......I mean---If I want articles, I'll google them
forums are a wonderful way to get OPINIONS of unique people.....it's like such a waste to just be a copy and paste machine.......oh, and you suck cock and you are also the N-word
You are an absolute mess of a person.
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Do you wake up and punch a wall? ??? ??? ??? :D :D ;D ;D
Can't say I do.
Usually, upon waking, I turn on my stereo and scramble some eggs.
Do you punch a wall?
Watched a video this morning that features Johnny Depp punching and kicking cabinets in his kitchen and throwing wine glasses and verbally abusing his once-wife, though.
Maybe I've got it wrong.
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Can't say I do.
Usually, upon waking, I turn on my stereo and scramble some eggs.
Do you punch a wall?
Watched a video this morning that features Johnny Depp punching and kicking cabinets in his kitchen and throwing wine glasses and verbally abusing his once-wife, though.
Maybe I've got it wrong.
Yes, I punch each wall at least 4 times, then blast some Morbid Angel.
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Yes, I punch each wall at least 4 times, then blast some Morbid Angel.
Oh, cool. What's your favourite MA album? Song?
I'd say Formulas Fatal To The Flesh and "Summoning Redemption".
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Oh, cool. What's your favourite MA album? Song?
I'd say Formulas Fatal To The Flesh and "Summoning Redemption".
Favorite Album is Covenant. Favorite songs are from that album (Lions Den and Rapture).
But I am listening to Danzig now. :D :D
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I think this has to do with the feminizing of men through social engineering. Wiggs will back me on this. It won't be long before men will be full on bitches. Just like the male seahorse carries the baby. It was probably brow beat into submission by feminist sea horses.
That, and also less nutrition in food and far more chemicals and hormones in food and products.
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every generation is "weaker" than the previous generation
it's phenomenon that happens
we can call it "old geezer" syndrome
the only difference now is that social media and facebook posts exist now so more people have voices
tldr-----men who survived the middle ages thought men in the Renaissance were total fags (i took A LOT of license with that one but you know what I'm saying)
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I use gloves at the gym and oils and lotions to keep my hands soft and beautiful but that doesn't mean I am not strong.
Gloves at the gym? You sound like a bitch
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Favorite Album is Covenant. Favorite songs are from that album (Lions Den and Rapture).
But I am listening to Danzig now. :D :D
Cool. As for Danzig, I'm not a fan. However, I am a fan of that video that features Glen being smoked by the burly hardcore singer. Great material.
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Cool. As for Danzig, I'm not a fan. However, I am a fan of that video that features Glen being smoked by the burly hardcore singer. Great material.
Danzig is one of my favorites. He's definitely an icon in the metal world/punk world (especially the Misfits).
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every generation is "weaker" than the previous generation
it's phenomenon that happens
we can call it "old geezer" syndrome
the only difference now is that social media and facebook posts exist now so more people have voices
tldr-----men who survived the middle ages thought men in the Renaissance were total fags (i took A LOT of license with that one but you know what I'm saying)
Great observation, it should also be noted that: Todays men are also much gayer than their fathers were.
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bay
do you ever post a opinion or does being a gay limit you to just copying and pasting articles?
i don't ask that rhetorically btw.......I mean---If I want articles, I'll google them
forums are a wonderful way to get OPINIONS of unique people.....it's like such a waste to just be a copy and paste machine.......oh, and you suck cock and you are also the N-word
Are you this much of an asshole in real life or just on Getbig?
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Modern twink beta f ags.
Me, I listen to metal, lift iron and live alone, away from a squaking wife and grumpy daughters (men with wives and daughters/kids have markedly lower T levels). I watch manly movies and am a large, bald headed bull.
Today, young men shave their balls, tint their hair and shape their eyebrows. Let broads push them around. Liberal fellas left and right tolerating Islam.
As Clint says, this is the Pussy Generation.
Men need to blast MANOWAR and man the fuck up.
Woah woah woah there Tiger! I thought we ALL still shaved our f@#king balls? Or did I miss a memo?
Who loves a bear*!?!?
Google it if you dare...
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Woah woah woah there Tiger! I thought we ALL still shaved our f@#king balls? Or did I miss a memo?
Who loves a bear*!?!?
Google it if you dare...
Yeah, he lost me on that, too, as well as Manowar. Ball shaving is just good grooming and attention to detail, and Manowar... this just isn't a good look:
(http://www.tyrosize-blog.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/odd-band14-Copy.jpg)
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Are you this much of an asshole in real life or just on Getbig?
My uniqueness is ubiquitous to digital as well as real life
I will never catfish my fan base on here to make you think I'm one way on Internet and just some nebbish irl
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My uniqueness is ubiquitous to digital as well as real life
I will never catfish my fan base on here to make you think I'm one way on Internet and just some nebbish irl
Nah, you are just a former (probably current) drug addict, who goes around making unfunny, racist, and homophobic comments.
Johnny, You aren't hip and ironic. You are clearly a chronically depressed individual, with a terrible grasp of what humor should be.
Johnny, you are also the guy who admitted to having your limp, Italian noodle, sucked by some 5th rate producer, in some seedy motel.
Johnny, you are also a former Elf of GH15, who brainwashed you into leaving Getbig. You talked so much shit, only to come crawling back like the scumbag that you are.
And people claim I try too hard...... ::)
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And I am sure the dads of the recent past were not nearly as strong as these guys.
(http://img13.deviantart.net/91c5/i/2013/104/3/2/viking_warrior_by_g_freeman200-d4bcjlf.jpg)
(http://artfiles.alphacoders.com/372/37276.jpg)
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manowar of peace!
:D
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(http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/fp/Christopher+Schwarzenegger+Maria+Shriver+Christopher+BU5AMvZ9gHcl.jpg)
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Gloves at the gym? You sound like a bitch
;D ;D
(http://undeniableme.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/cbl-fishing.jpg)
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Nah, you are just a former (probably current) drug addict, who goes around making unfunny, racist, and homophobic comments.
Johnny, You aren't hip and ironic. You are clearly a chronically depressed individual, with a terrible grasp of what humor should be.
Johnny, you are also the guy who admitted to having your limp, Italian noodle, sucked by some 5th rate producer, in some seedy motel.
Johnny, you are also a former Elf of GH15, who brainwashed you into leaving Getbig. You talked so much shit, only to come crawling back like the scumbag that you are.
And people claim I try too hard...... ::)
I only take umbrage with the "unfunny" part
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I only take umbrage with the "unfunny" part
Pm me if you need to talk.
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Pm me if you need to talk.
Why
If I wanted to talk to a fag, I'd go to a mirror
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Why
If I wanted to talk to a fag, I'd go to a mirror
I am not a fag, but your humor is getting better. I'll take credit for that.
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And I am sure the dads of the recent past were not nearly as strong as these guys.
(http://img13.deviantart.net/91c5/i/2013/104/3/2/viking_warrior_by_g_freeman200-d4bcjlf.jpg)
(http://artfiles.alphacoders.com/372/37276.jpg)
These fellas would tolerate Islam and its faithful for less than one day before all the filthy Moozies would be dead or fleeing for their pathetic lives.
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(http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/fp/Christopher+Schwarzenegger+Maria+Shriver+Christopher+BU5AMvZ9gHcl.jpg)
Am I the only mean SOB here that requires my offspring to walk on the treadmill on the days when it's too hot, busy, or otherwise, preventing them from walking or biking outside and getting exercise?
In Florida, the summers are literally 85 degrees by 9 am. Kids can't play outside in that. If it's not a water park day, yes, I do require 12 to 15 minutes of .8 to 1.0 mph on the treadmill to keep their guts pumping and feeling good, staying fit.
Any other parents do that, or am I just a cruel bastard? If my kid was as heavy as that poor child pictured above, I think it's MY fault for making high-calorie food available, and not making exercise a part of the daily to-do list.
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And people claim I try too hard...... ::)
Lets not go crazy here. You blow Johnny away by a mile with that in particular and thats not even getting into the others.
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Lets not go crazy here. You blow Johnny away by a mile with that in particular and thats not even getting into the others.
I don't blow anyone :D
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Haha at this fag thinking a vet is a rough and tough job that gave him hard calloused hands ::) a day of manually breaking out and carrying concrete would destroy this old fags "tough" hands. Plenty of us still work with our hands it's not that uncommon
;D
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Am I the only mean SOB here that requires my offspring to walk on the treadmill on the days when it's too hot, busy, or otherwise, preventing them from walking or biking outside and getting exercise?
In Florida, the summers are literally 85 degrees by 9 am. Kids can't play outside in that. If it's not a water park day, yes, I do require 12 to 15 minutes of .8 to 1.0 mph on the treadmill to keep their guts pumping and feeling good, staying fit.
Any other parents do that, or am I just a cruel bastard? If my kid was as heavy as that poor child pictured above, I think it's MY fault for making high-calorie food available, and not making exercise a part of the daily to-do list.
I hope you are fucking kidding me. I'm sure you are but still...
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Test levels have been dropping dramatically over the last 75 years as well
Women have much less Test levels than men and live almost 10 years longer. 79 years Women and 72 men...Could it be Test level related?
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Women have much less Test levels than men and live almost 10 years longer. 79 years Women and 72 men...Could it be Test level related?
a lot of women don't or didn't have to deal with the stress of work
maybe that stat will change since many more women work now
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Researchers measured the grip strength (how strongly you can squeeze something) and pinch strength (how strongly you can pinch something between two fingers) of 237 healthy full-time students aged 20 to 34 at universities in North Carolina. And especially among males, the reduction in strength compared to 30 years ago was striking.
The average 20-to-34-year-old today, for instance, was able to apply 98 pounds of force when gripping something with his right hand. In 1985, the average man could squeeze with 117 pounds of force.
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I own a medical grip-strength measurement instrument and I can manage 150 pounds with my right hand. I guess more than 20 years of lifting had been good for something. However, I had a patient once who was a farmer- he grabbed the thing and managed 190 pounds of pressure. My own father was a mechanic and was also far stronger than me in pure grip-strength.
I have had people who looked strong, with thick forearms although having desk-jobs, but who only managed about 90 pounds.
NN
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every generation is "weaker" than the previous generation
it's phenomenon that happens
we can call it "old geezer" syndrome
the only difference now is that social media and facebook posts exist now so more people have voices
tldr-----men who survived the middle ages thought men in the Renaissance were total fags (i took A LOT of license with that one but you know what I'm saying)
every previous generation was tougher, more manly, more womanly, blablabla.
old geezer syndrome sounds accurate
"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."
- Attributed to Socrates by Plato
"I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words... When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly disrespectful and impatient of restraint."
- Hesiod, 8th century BC
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shaving your balls is "just good hygiene"..
haha fagg0t
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Yeah, he lost me on that, too, as well as Manowar. Ball shaving is just good grooming and attention to detail, and Manowar... this just isn't a good look:
(http://www.tyrosize-blog.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/odd-band14-Copy.jpg)
As straight as RuPaul.
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Am I the only mean SOB here that requires my offspring to walk on the treadmill on the days when it's too hot, busy, or otherwise, preventing them from walking or biking outside and getting exercise?
In Florida, the summers are literally 85 degrees by 9 am. Kids can't play outside in that. If it's not a water park day, yes, I do require 12 to 15 minutes of .8 to 1.0 mph on the treadmill to keep their guts pumping and feeling good, staying fit.
Any other parents do that, or am I just a cruel bastard? If my kid was as heavy as that poor child pictured above, I think it's MY fault for making high-calorie food available, and not making exercise a part of the daily to-do list.
What's their stack? ECA and a touch of clen maybe? And are you measuring with calipers?
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I own a medical grip-strength measurement instrument and I can manage 150 pounds with my right hand. I guess more than 20 years of lifting had been good for something. However, I had a patient once who was a farmer- he grabbed the thing and managed 190 pounds of pressure. My own father was a mechanic and was also far stronger than me in pure grip-strength.
I have had people who looked strong, with thick forearms although having desk-jobs, but who only managed about 90 pounds.
NN
There's some sort of m4sturbati0n joke there but I'm too lazy to put the effort in... :-\
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Haha at this fag thinking a vet is a rough and tough job that gave him hard calloused hands ::) a day of manually breaking out and carrying concrete would destroy this old fags "tough" hands. Plenty of us still work with our hands it's not that uncommon
How do you know Christopher Ingraham is a fegget?
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As straight as RuPaul.
You dare talk disrespectfully of MANOWAR?!
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There's some sort of m4sturbati0n joke there but I'm too lazy to put the effort in... :-\
Do you need a hand?
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(http://www.tyrosize-blog.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/odd-band14-Copy.jpg)
Good look right there
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Good look right there
Unshaved b4lls too...
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Do you need a hand?
Well played...
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Yeah, he lost me on that, too, as well as Manowar. Ball shaving is just good grooming and attention to detail, and Manowar... this just isn't a good look:
(http://www.tyrosize-blog.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/odd-band14-Copy.jpg)
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