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Many years ago I was really inspired by Arnolds calf-story. You know, with the cut off trousers and hours and hours of training them.
So on a free saturday, I did about 100 sets of standing calf raises to failure and beyond during the day. Plus extreme stretching. That night they cramped up on me so badly I spent half the night stretching on the stairs.
I literally could not walk for a day or two, and remained sore for two weeks. Even wearing socks hurt.
I don't recall if I measured them before and after.
Please post your own workout-from-hell :-X
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Last time I tried training calves directly they got sore like that, and as a bonus I got a pulmonary embolism that went up my leg into my lung and hospitalized me for 3 days.
Calves of Wolf are my future, it seems..
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Back in the day after watching dorian yates blood and guts video me and my workout buddy decided to copy dorian yates workout set for set because after all if you want to look like dorian you have to train like dorian right, well we end up severely overtrained with no gains.
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Last time I tried training calves directly they got sore like that, and as a bonus I got a pulmonary embolism that went up my leg into my lung and hospitalized me for 3 days.
Calves of Wolf are my future, it seems..
is this for real? how did you do that
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Back in the day after watching dorian yates blood and guts video me and my workout buddy decided to copy dorian yates workout set for set because after all if you want to look like dorian you have to train like dorian right, well we end up severely overtrained with no gains.
You cant overtrain, only under eat and under rest.
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is this for real? how did you do that
Well a blood clot, then its a PE once it hits your lungs. I hit legs really hard that day and it must have triggered the blood clot to break loose i guess.
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Well a blood clot, then its a PE once it hits your lungs. I hit legs really hard that day and it must have triggered the blood clot to break loose i guess.
been there done that...i waited about 4-5 hours before going to the hospital i thought it was just a heart attack...
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I didn't feel ill at all, had just worked out that day too. I actually went to the doctor because my right calf was so damn sore I thought I had cellulitis (had it before same spot)- then they run tests and bam
They were more alarmed that my creatine-k blood level was over 7000, most people are in low hundos. Never found out what that was all about
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Well a blood clot, then its a PE once it hits your lungs. I hit legs really hard that day and it must have triggered the blood clot to break loose i guess.
This sounds a little bit unlikely, my friend....wasn't it a pneumothorax ?
Says Dr Dutch
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No they ran tests and saw the thing, it was small but in there. THey said I shuld have had 20% decreased lung function but again, I felt fine. I'm on blood thinners for a few months, dodged a bullet for sure
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At 15 I did Rich Gaspari's EXACT arm routine! It was about 20 sets for biceps and triceps!
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Don't remember where I got it from, definitely from a Weider mag, but some 25 yrs ago I did 'the Arnold Arm Routine, .....ended up with a tennis elbow and zero gains.
Still hate Weider for that.
Don't hate Arnold of course, he's our Jesus/Mohammed/Buddha orvwhatever dude... ???
But hate Weider and his offspring.....duh !
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At 15 I did Rich Gaspari's EXACT arm routine! It was about 20 sets for biceps and triceps!
did your biceps grow 2 inches in 2 weeks?
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Did anyone ever followed a natural routine from a muscle mag that actually delivered ??
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Many years ago I was really inspired by Arnolds calf-story. You know, with the cut off trousers and hours and hours of training them.
So on a free saturday, I did about 100 sets of standing calf raises to failure and beyond during the day. Plus extreme stretching. That night they cramped up on me so badly I spent half the night stretching on the stairs.
I literally could not walk for a day or two, and remained sore for two weeks. Even wearing socks hurt.
I don't recall if I measured them before and after.
Please post your own workout-from-hell :-X
The problem with so much work for calves isn't that you will grow the calves or not, it's that if you ever rupture your Achilles at an age after say 35 years old, its all but over. Micro tears in the Achilles are for life. There are many ex marathon runners who now walk around limping...Check out the numbers Red Sox DH David Ortiz is putting up this year. One of his best seasons of all time. Yet he's retiring at the end of the year at age 40. Said he would love to play a couple more years but can't do it because of his feet/Achilles...The guy is basically giving up 25 million a year any team would have paid him to play another year because his feet are fucked. And fucked for life...
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I think that's about one of the toughest things in sports.....knowing that you are very talented at a young age, but 'ordered' to be holding back for years really...takes a very good coach to keep a dude like this on line.
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Around 1990 or thereabouts I read about Tom Platz and his legendary leg workouts, so I decided to try some high rep squats. I warmed up well, then squatted 225 for 55 reps. It was the most physically demanding thing I've ever done in my life. The entire gym was watching and cheering me on. That was the entire leg workout. I was sore for about 10 days afterward. My legs did grow from that.
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As a young teenager I did countless random reps and sets of bicep curls with a small adjustable dumbbell set my parent had just bought me, because I didn't really know what I was doing.
My biceps and especially bicep tendon was brutally sore and I couldn't straighten my arms for a week. I was walking around with my arms bent at 90 degrees like a robot.
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I saw a video of Ronnie Coleman leg pressing 2300lbs and tried to give it a shot. It was like Jean Pierre Fux but on leg press.
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Around 1990 or thereabouts I read about Tom Platz and his legendary leg workouts, so I decided to try some high rep squats. I warmed up well, then squatted 225 for 55 reps. It was the most physically demanding thing I've ever done in my life. The entire gym was watching and cheering me on. That was the entire leg workout. I was sore for about 10 days afterward. My legs did grow from that.
I did that kinda stuff too....we were both fools. ;D
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You cant overtrain, only under eat and under rest.
You can if natural.
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You can if natural.
Oh yes you can overtrain like a bat out of hell.....
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I did that kinda stuff too....we were both fools. ;D
Foolish?... maybe, but it was fun. I weighed 180lbs and was natty. I remember I had to take a few days off work because I could not walk, I could barely crawl.
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You cant overtrain, only under eat and under rest.
this may be true
I've been training my tris every 48 hrs and they are noticeably bigger
everything is actually bigger as I've gained a little over 5 kilo in 2 weeks but it seems my tris have grown the most which is exactly what I'm trying to do, i.e. spot gain mostly on my arms and pecs BABY
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Shot (3) cc's of Sustanon 250 into EACH calf. That's 1.5 grams of Sustanon in one serving! Three different locations on each calf. Then proceeded to do something like 20 sets x 25 reps with a reasonably light weight for calves. Later that day I could not walk and could barley stand up without assistance. Ed Connors wanted me to go to the hospital but when I told him exactly what I had done he said, "...Jesus Tom what were you thinking. I guess you won't do that again..."
I did do it again.
True story.
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Back when I was around 15, I had read Arnold's Bodybuilding For Men. In it he talked about how he would do a high number of sets. So, I figured if I did more than he did I could get bigger. I was doing 100 plus of sets per body part. And that was a different body part per day. Sometimes it would take 4 hours or more the finish a workout. I kept this up for about a year and a half.
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Several years back I experimented with super slow chin-ups on the assisted chin-up machine. Each rep was 10 seconds (5 seconds positive, 5 seconds negative) Was grueling as fuck for my back and my biceps. But holy fuck, the strength I developed after just 6 weeks of doing these was incredible. After doing the super slow chin-ups for a month and a half, regular chin-ups were a breeze.
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Back when I was around 15, I had read Arnold's Bodybuilding For Men. In it he talked about how he would do a high number of sets. So, I figured if I did more than he did I could get bigger. I was doing 100 plus of sets per body part. And that was a different body part per day. Sometimes it would take 4 hours or more the finish a workout. I kept this up for about a year and a half.
Did You make noticeable gains on that year and a half you did this?? ???
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First time back doing squats coming back off a back injury I worked up to 315 for a single and ended up doing 185 for 25 reps . Laid on the floor like in the magazines for 10 minutes lol that was fun set though and I don't regret it. I stopped doing stupid squats after a while though. Those feet together high bar squats with anything over 2 plates is just asking for trouble as a natural.
Later after delving inthe the peds I trained with light weights and tons of volume, didn't even coutn reps or sets just got the biggest pump possible and then left. If it took 20 minutes then so be it. I also cut rest times down to absolute minimum and the result was some decent fat loss and cardio from that, since I can't really run or do normal cardio due to my screwed up knee.
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I was starting at the new gym few years back, and after complete chest, triceps and biceps workout I found this machine, and it seem to be good idea to test it...
(http://www.handcyclequest.com/images/stationary-handcycle.jpg)
Well, it wasn't very good idea. In fact it was one of the worst ideas ever, because after few minutes it start to feel odd, and when I stopped, I could not move my hands because they were pumped to the max and beyond. I sit in the locker room quite some time but the pump went only harder and harder. In the shower I couldn't reach my hair to wash it, so jump in my clothes and hurried home. My wife have to feed me because my arms were useless, but I thought it would be better tomorrow. It was worse, because whole upper body was sore as hell from training and from that enormous pump. I couldn't go to work because I have no hands to work with, so I stay home for 3 days ;D :'(
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Shot (3) cc's of Sustanon 250 into EACH calf. That's 1.5 grams of Sustanon in one serving! Three different locations on each calf. Then proceeded to do something like 20 sets x 25 reps with a reasonably light weight for calves. Later that day I could not walk and could barley stand up without assistance. Ed Connors wanted me to go to the hospital but when I told him exactly what I had done he said, "...Jesus Tom what were you thinking. I guess you won't do that again..."
I did do it again.
True story.
LOL
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Slow rep jerking off while doing crunches. Don't laugh. You can do infinity crunches if you're close to cumming. The trick is not to overstimulate. You have to find the sweet spot. It feels really good.
I guess that got kinda creepy.
Says Patrick Masterbateman
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Always though squatting ass to grass was the way to go, even heavy
now my left hip is screwed; even after 6 months of no squatting it still gets extremely inflamed if I do any weighted lower body movements; probably a torn labrum or something that needs to be addressed medically. but who has time for that.
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No they ran tests and saw the thing, it was small but in there. THey said I shuld have had 20% decreased lung function but again, I felt fine. I'm on blood thinners for a few months, dodged a bullet for sure
May I ask your age ?
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Foolish?... maybe, but it was fun. I weighed 180lbs and was natty. I remember I had to take a few days off work because I could not walk, I could barely crawl.
Indeed it as fun. Competing with my friends. 8)
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I used to actually believe different exercises worked different parts of a muscle.
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You cant overtrain, only under eat and under rest.
Ha ha! "You don't grow while you're in the gym"...
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I used to actually believe different exercises worked different parts of a muscle.
LOL. Remember the Ironman R-O-M system (was it called that?)? Sort of early to mid '90s...
One exercise for 'mid-range? (or somesuch)'
One for 'stretch'
One for 'peak contraction'
Or some such thing... ::)
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WHATEVER IT TAKES! 8HRS of ARMS, 16 Protein Shakes ROUTINE- Rich Piana
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I once did a squat-workout-from-hell. During the session it already hurt like hell.
Next day quads but especially glutes hurt like crazy.
Never had more pain in the ass like that time.
Struggling getting out of my car/a chair.....will never do this again,,please.
You all know that some DOMS is nice, feels like you challenged the muscles (nothing wrong).
says Dr Dutch
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My most bizarre workout? Actually working out.
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I did one of those add an inch to your arms in one day workouts fom flex magazine.
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Ron barely comes on here.
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Ron barely comes on here.
I think he is on here more then you think ;) Give Ron a bit of credit. He isn't stupid.
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I think he is on here more then you think ;) Give Ron a bit of credit. He isn't stupid.
He's stupid and racist.
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He's stupid and racist.
And how do come to that conclusion?
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Back in the day after watching dorian yates blood and guts video me and my workout buddy decided to copy dorian yates workout set for set because after all if you want to look like dorian you have to train like dorian right, well we end up severely overtrained with no gains.
lol, awesome!
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When i was about 13, a few weeks after getting my first home bench, I bought my first Flex magazine (no homo) and later proceeded to follow a workout routine called "10 sets of 10" on flat bench. I couldn't lift my arms over my head for several days, the pain was intense, I thought back later, wondering if I may have torn my pecs.
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I did the Cybergenics workouts to the letter and also diet. From what I can recall, lots of carb depletion and workouts with no energy and emphasizing negatives and shit.
Was a total waste of time and money, except that it taught me the valuable life lesson: it's all scams. I still believe that to this day.
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I was starting at the new gym few years back, and after complete chest, triceps and biceps workout I found this machine, and it seem to be good idea to test it...
(http://www.handcyclequest.com/images/stationary-handcycle.jpg)
Well, it wasn't very good idea. In fact it was one of the worst ideas ever, because after few minutes it start to feel odd, and when I stopped, I could not move my hands because they were pumped to the max and beyond. I sit in the locker room quite some time but the pump went only harder and harder. In the shower I couldn't reach my hair to wash it, so jump in my clothes and hurried home. My wife have to feed me because my arms were useless, but I thought it would be better tomorrow. It was worse, because whole upper body was sore as hell from training and from that enormous pump. I couldn't go to work because I have no hands to work with, so I stay home for 3 days ;D :'(
1. ...and then you woke up
2. As authentic as Alex Jones diet plan.
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I was starting at the new gym few years back, and after complete chest, triceps and biceps workout I found this machine, and it seem to be good idea to test it...
(http://www.handcyclequest.com/images/stationary-handcycle.jpg)
Well, it wasn't very good idea. In fact it was one of the worst ideas ever, because after few minutes it start to feel odd, and when I stopped, I could not move my hands because they were pumped to the max and beyond. I sit in the locker room quite some time but the pump went only harder and harder. In the shower I couldn't reach my hair to wash it, so jump in my clothes and hurried home. My wife have to feed me because my arms were useless, but I thought it would be better tomorrow. It was worse, because whole upper body was sore as hell from training and from that enormous pump. I couldn't go to work because I have no hands to work with, so I stay home for 3 days ;D :'(
I think you stumbled on a Basile Biceps Supinator
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1. ...and then you woke up
2. As authentic as Alex Jones diet plan.
Do not take my word for it, just try it yourself, in fact I challenge you to try it for yourself ;D
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I think you stumbled on a Basile Biceps Supinator
That is stationary bike for arms. Lactic acid flood of peace ;D
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I think he is on here more then you think ;) Give Ron a bit of credit. He isn't stupid.
Approve my gimmicks in the queue
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Did You make noticeable gains on that year and a half you did this?? ???
Not really. But I was a typical stubborn stupid teenager. Figuring I'll grow faster as I got older. I didn't start making any sort of improvement until the sets were lowered. The more I lowered them, the better. Until eventually I got to what I thought was a sweet spot. Which was just a fraction of what it was.
But this experience pretty much leaves me immune to the bullshit some people spout about overtraining being impossible.
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When first bought a bench and weights and knew fuck all about training and wanted to build chest muscles so would lift after school for an hour just repeating sets of 10 for the hour, then repeated the same workout before bed for another hour.
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When i was a kid I sometimes set the alarm clock exactly 36 hours after the last workout, to train again. 36 Hours was ideal, I read in some Weider magazine.....
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When i was a kid I sometimes set the alarm clock exactly 36 hours after the last workout, to train again. 36 Hours was ideal, I read in some Weider magazine.....
I remember Steve Reeves saying that in his book
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I was at my strongest following Mentzer's routines in Heavy Duty II. 1 workout per week. Gained muscle as well but it was hard on my joints and even though it worked I felt I should be working out more and went back to working out multiple days per week.
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I gained a 1/2 on my arms in one week stretching them and working them.
Twice a day...
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this may be true
I've been training my tris every 48 hrs and they are noticeably bigger
everything is actually bigger as I've gained a little over 5 kilo in 2 weeks but it seems my tris have grown the most which is exactly what I'm trying to do, i.e. spot gain mostly on my arms and pecs BABY
Then imagine how much bigger they would be if you trained them every 12 hours? How about every six hours? Basile speculated how much gains could be made if you trained 8 hours everyday seven days a week.
Why not? As long as you eat enough and get a good nights sleep.
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Several years back I experimented with super slow chin-ups on the assisted chin-up machine. Each rep was 10 seconds (5 seconds positive, 5 seconds negative) Was grueling as fuck for my back and my biceps. But holy fuck, the strength I developed after just 6 weeks of doing these was incredible. After doing the super slow chin-ups for a month and a half, regular chin-ups were a breeze.
So how many chins could you do before and then after the month of SS training? And how many can you do now after several more years of training?
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Several years back I experimented with super slow chin-ups on the assisted chin-up machine. Each rep was 10 seconds (5 seconds positive, 5 seconds negative) Was grueling as fuck for my back and my biceps. But holy fuck, the strength I developed after just 6 weeks of doing these was incredible. After doing the super slow chin-ups for a month and a half, regular chin-ups were a breeze.
The problem with these kinds of workouts, and with Heavy Duty and dogcrapp and stuff, is that although they may actually deliver, they are not fun to do. The best workout is the one you won't quit...
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You cant overtrain, only under eat and under rest.
Hands down the stupidest post you've ever made.
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Hands down the stupidest post you've ever made.
Its in keeping with the rest of the thread you dumb fuck...
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I got a set of dumbells from my dad when I was 15, about 10lbs I think they were. I literally didn't know any exercise apart from bicep curls. I would do them everyday. I worked up to doing 600 reps with them, in sets of 50-100. Then I would drink a liter of milk and goto bed. The pump was intense and it actually did make my arms grow.
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Its in keeping with the rest of the thread you dumb fuck...
Can't you be a bit more friendly, BT ?
It makes one feel happy to be considered friendly.
Says Dr Dutch
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Can't you be a bit more friendly, BT ?
It makes one feel happy to be considered friendly.
Says Dr Dutch
I am friendly, I dont mean anything I write on here.
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Can't you be a bit more friendly, BT ?
It makes one feel happy to be considered friendly.
Says Dr Dutch
I don't know. That post kind of deserved that type of response.
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I am friendly, I dont mean anything I write on here.
haha at least you're funny too, besides being a asshole.... :D
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haha at least you're funny too, besides being a asshole.... :D
;D
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I think you stumbled on a Basile Biceps Supinator
(http://s33.postimg.org/n70untven/o_Irl_F0t.jpg)
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;D
OK from now on I consider you a Dude... ;D 8)