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Title: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 22, 2016, 10:01:36 AM
Dorian would mop the floor with #Cheat


Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: JasonH on August 22, 2016, 10:09:09 AM
Not even worth the discussion - Heath is good (if somewhat narrow). Dorian was the most complete Mr Olympia of all time and was smart enough to be able to hide his (few) flaws onstage through his posing.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: mass243 on August 22, 2016, 10:18:02 AM
Phil is not very impressive for multiple time Olympian.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: NelsonMuntz on August 22, 2016, 11:09:15 AM
Not even worth the discussion - Heath is good (if somewhat narrow). Dorian was the most complete Mr Olympia of all time and was smart enough to be able to hide his (few) flaws onstage through his posing.

Dorian was awesome and could hide his flaws, however I disagree he was the most compete. Most complete was def Lee Haney

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Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 22, 2016, 11:12:43 AM
Dorian was awesome and could hide his flaws, however I disagree he was the most compete. Most complete was def Lee Haney



Haney most complete? His entire lower body pales in comparison to Yates
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: _bruce_ on August 22, 2016, 11:16:01 AM
Haney looked outstanding - great taper.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: NelsonMuntz on August 22, 2016, 11:18:15 AM
Haney most complete? His entire lower body pales in comparison to Yates

but it was in proportion to the rest of him. Dorian had weird looking pecs and his waist was as wide as a buick front end on stage, if not for his wide lats......he also won 4 olympias with one good arm, the other he hid well

tale of the tape
shoulders-Haney
Back width-Haney
Triceps-Yates
Biceps-Haney
Chest- Haney
Back thickness-Yates
Waist-Haney
Lower Back- Yates
Quads-Yates
Hamstring-Yates
Calves- Yates
Condition- Yates
Overall shape and contest look- Haney
Personality- Haney
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: Simple Simon on August 22, 2016, 11:22:16 AM
(http://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2013/03/leehaney199128929-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 22, 2016, 11:25:12 AM
but it was in proportion to the rest of him. Dorian had weird looking pecs and his waist was as wide as a buick front end on stage, if not for his wide lats......he also won 4 olympias with one good arm, the other he hid well

tale of the tape
shoulders-Haney
Back width-Haney
Triceps-Yates
Biceps-Haney
Chest- Haney
Back thickness-Yates
Waist-Haney
Lower Back- Yates
Quads-Yates
Hamstring-Yates
Calves- Yates
Condition- Yates
Overall shape and contest look- Haney
Personality- Haney

No his upper body wasn't in proportion , Haney was always known as top heavy. And if we're talking about at their bests or the one time they competed against each other? And forget parts , poses win contests and the single time they did compete Dorian beat Haney in the muscularity round i.e. front & rear lats spreads , biceps , side chest , triceps etc, this despite being 10 lbs lighter in his first Olympia
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: njflex on August 22, 2016, 11:27:40 AM
(http://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2013/03/leehaney199128929-1.jpg)
MAIN THING IS RIGHT THERE RELAXED LOOK AT HANEY'S THICKNESS ,AND HIS LEGS WERE BEST EVER FOR HIM AT THIS SHOW.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: Simple Simon on August 22, 2016, 11:45:44 AM
MAIN THING IS RIGHT THERE RELAXED LOOK AT HANEY'S THICKNESS ,AND HIS LEGS WERE BEST EVER FOR HIM AT THIS SHOW.
Haneys all time best was at his last show, look how that reflects on todays competitors, they look worse every year.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: njflex on August 22, 2016, 11:51:59 AM
Haneys all time best was at his last show, look how that reflects on todays competitors, they look worse every year.
YEP...
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: falco on August 22, 2016, 12:12:48 PM
phel heath is a joke next to either Mr. Dorian Yates or the Embassator Lee Haney.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 22, 2016, 12:36:06 PM
Haneys all time best was at his last show, look how that reflects on todays competitors, they look worse every year.
Haney just barely beat Dorian, and only because Dorian overdieted...
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: Simple Simon on August 22, 2016, 01:39:20 PM
Haney just barely beat Dorian, and only because Dorian overdieted...
Overdieted.

FFS get yourself over to bodybuilding.com with that shite.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 22, 2016, 01:41:55 PM
Overdieted.

FFS get yourself over to bodybuilding.com with that shite.

Don't be an ass dude.
I'm right about this one.
The next year Dorian didn't make this mistake and put BB at a new level...
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: Simple Simon on August 22, 2016, 01:43:35 PM
Don't be an ass dude.
I'm right about this one.
The next year Dorian didn't make this mistake and put BB at a new level...
No, he upped the dose considerably, and it was also the beginning of the end of his waistline.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 22, 2016, 01:45:25 PM
No, he upped the dose considerably, and it was also the beginning of the end of his waistline.
They all up the dose yearly.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: Simple Simon on August 22, 2016, 01:46:46 PM
They all up the dose yearly.
some learn their lesson and realise that more isnt always better.
Taking massive dosages whilst in a deficit is idiotic to say the least.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 22, 2016, 01:49:22 PM
some learn their lesson and realise that more isnt always better.
Taking massive dosages whilst in a deficit is idiotic to say the least.
They all up the dosage, but some stay away from certain stuff. I guess Dexter stayed away from GH and insulin. Not completely, most mostly.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 22, 2016, 01:52:04 PM
Overdieted.

FFS get yourself over to bodybuilding.com with that shite.

According to Dorian he did , in an never ending quest for conditioning he ended up burning off muscle. Recall the 1991 Mr Olympia was his only 3rd pro show ever he was still figuring things out , in those famous B&W pics he was 269lbs and eventually dropped down to 257lbs for the 93 Olympia , again sacrificing size for conditioning that was negligible at that point. 
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 22, 2016, 01:59:40 PM
According to Dorian he did , in an never ending quest for conditioning he ended up burning off muscle. Recall the 1991 Mr Olympia was his only 3rd pro show ever he was still figuring things out , in those famous B&W pics he was 269lbs and eventually dropped down to 257lbs for the 93 Olympia , again sacrificing size for conditioning that was negligible at that point. 
You can see it in his face in pictures from back then.....he had the fat % of an Ethiopian famine victim.  In fact, he was close to dying (not kidding)..
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: Simple Simon on August 22, 2016, 02:20:54 PM
You can see it in his face in pictures from back then.....he had the fat % of an Ethiopian famine victim.  In fact, he was close to dying (not kidding)..

and that is how it should be, sadly today, they have faces fatter than Arnold,,,,,,,from Different Strokes.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: njflex on August 22, 2016, 02:48:13 PM
YATES stated at one point to get so lean and achieving it the balls of his feet hurt due to being so ripped he had nothing left anywhere..
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: old-school-lifter on August 22, 2016, 03:00:23 PM
Yates @ his best 93 was not the most complete

his delts were too small for his chest , so were his arms

Haney overall was more complete, his arms were his weak point, his legs in 91 were great

Ronnie was the most complete mr O
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 22, 2016, 03:01:47 PM
Yates @ his best 93 was not the most complete

his delts were too small for his chest , so were his arms

Haney overall was more complete, his arms were his weak point, his legs in 91 were great

Ronnie was the most complete mr O

LMAO  ;D
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: Skeletor on August 22, 2016, 03:02:58 PM
Yates @ his best 93 was not the most complete

his delts were too small for his chest , so were his arms

Haney overall was more complete, his arms were his weak point, his legs in 91 were great

Ronnie was the most complete mr O

Huge gut (aside from 98 and maybe 99), shit abs, shit calves.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: cephissus on August 22, 2016, 03:48:15 PM
I think the only thing beyond dispute is that ND is the most complete bodybuilding autist.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 22, 2016, 03:54:22 PM
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Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 22, 2016, 03:55:37 PM
I think the only thing beyond dispute is that ND is the most complete bodybuilding autist.

Finally I'm the best at something  ;D
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: Ropo on August 23, 2016, 01:52:49 AM
Haney most complete? His entire lower body pales in comparison to Yates


Haney = 7 x Mr Olympia
Yates =  6 X Mr Olympia

Haney wins, now fuck off..
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 23, 2016, 01:59:23 AM

Haney = 7 x Mr Olympia
Yates =  6 X Mr Olympia

Haney wins, now fuck off..

Haney = 8 X Mr Olympia

Now fuck off  ;)
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: SuperTed on August 23, 2016, 02:17:35 AM
Would have Yates above Heath although both are over-rated.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: Mr.1derful on August 23, 2016, 03:20:04 AM
Yates @ his best 93 was not the most complete

his delts were too small for his chest , so were his arms

Haney overall was more complete, his arms were his weak point, his legs in 91 were great

Ronnie was the most complete mr O

Yates' arms and delts were not too small in 93.  His arms were in fact very complete in 93.  Ronnie most complete?  Hardly, or are you overlooking his calves?
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: Simple Simon on August 23, 2016, 04:34:37 AM
Yates @ his best 93 was not the most complete

his delts were too small for his chest , so were his arms

Haney overall was more complete, his arms were his weak point, his legs in 91 were great

Ronnie was the most complete mr O
tell me what Samir was lacking in 83?
Samir had every single body part developed and was complete, not one body part was missing.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 23, 2016, 07:14:01 AM
and that is how it should be, sadly today, they have faces fatter than Arnold,,,,,,,from Different Strokes.
but Arnold from DF looked way more cuter than Dorian...  :)