Shawn Ray UNLEASHED Dorian Yates Vs Phil Heath

[NarcissisticDeity]

Dorian would mop the floor with #Cheat

[JasonH]

Not even worth the discussion - Heath is good (if somewhat narrow). Dorian was the most complete Mr Olympia of all time and was smart enough to be able to hide his (few) flaws onstage through his posing.

[mass243]

Phil is not very impressive for multiple time Olympian.

[NelsonMuntz]

Not even worth the discussion - Heath is good (if somewhat narrow). Dorian was the most complete Mr Olympia of all time and was smart enough to be able to hide his (few) flaws onstage through his posing.

Dorian was awesome and could hide his flaws, however I disagree he was the most compete. Most complete was def Lee Haney

[NarcissisticDeity]

Dorian was awesome and could hide his flaws, however I disagree he was the most compete. Most complete was def Lee Haney

Haney most complete? His entire lower body pales in comparison to Yates

[_bruce_]

Haney looked outstanding - great taper.

[NelsonMuntz]

Haney most complete? His entire lower body pales in comparison to Yates

but it was in proportion to the rest of him. Dorian had weird looking pecs and his waist was as wide as a buick front end on stage, if not for his wide lats......he also won 4 olympias with one good arm, the other he hid well

tale of the tape
shoulders-Haney
Back width-Haney
Triceps-Yates
Biceps-Haney
Chest- Haney
Back thickness-Yates
Waist-Haney
Lower Back- Yates
Quads-Yates
Hamstring-Yates
Calves- Yates
Condition- Yates
Overall shape and contest look- Haney
Personality- Haney

[Simple Simon]

[NarcissisticDeity]

but it was in proportion to the rest of him. Dorian had weird looking pecs and his waist was as wide as a buick front end on stage, if not for his wide lats......he also won 4 olympias with one good arm, the other he hid well

tale of the tape
shoulders-Haney
Back width-Haney
Triceps-Yates
Biceps-Haney
Chest- Haney
Back thickness-Yates
Waist-Haney
Lower Back- Yates
Quads-Yates
Hamstring-Yates
Calves- Yates
Condition- Yates
Overall shape and contest look- Haney
Personality- Haney

No his upper body wasn't in proportion , Haney was always known as top heavy. And if we're talking about at their bests or the one time they competed against each other? And forget parts , poses win contests and the single time they did compete Dorian beat Haney in the muscularity round i.e. front & rear lats spreads , biceps , side chest , triceps etc, this despite being 10 lbs lighter in his first Olympia

[njflex]

MAIN THING IS RIGHT THERE RELAXED LOOK AT HANEY'S THICKNESS ,AND HIS LEGS WERE BEST EVER FOR HIM AT THIS SHOW.

[Simple Simon]

MAIN THING IS RIGHT THERE RELAXED LOOK AT HANEY'S THICKNESS ,AND HIS LEGS WERE BEST EVER FOR HIM AT THIS SHOW.

Haneys all time best was at his last show, look how that reflects on todays competitors, they look worse every year.

[njflex]

Haneys all time best was at his last show, look how that reflects on todays competitors, they look worse every year.

YEP...

[falco]

phel heath is a joke next to either Mr. Dorian Yates or the Embassator Lee Haney.

[Dr Dutch]

Haneys all time best was at his last show, look how that reflects on todays competitors, they look worse every year.

Haney just barely beat Dorian, and only because Dorian overdieted...

[Simple Simon]

Haney just barely beat Dorian, and only because Dorian overdieted...

Overdieted.

FFS get yourself over to bodybuilding.com with that shite.

[Dr Dutch]

Overdieted.

FFS get yourself over to bodybuilding.com with that shite.

Don't be an ass dude.
I'm right about this one.
The next year Dorian didn't make this mistake and put BB at a new level...

[Simple Simon]

Don't be an ass dude.
I'm right about this one.
The next year Dorian didn't make this mistake and put BB at a new level...

No, he upped the dose considerably, and it was also the beginning of the end of his waistline.

[Dr Dutch]

No, he upped the dose considerably, and it was also the beginning of the end of his waistline.

They all up the dose yearly.

[Simple Simon]

They all up the dose yearly.

some learn their lesson and realise that more isnt always better.
Taking massive dosages whilst in a deficit is idiotic to say the least.

[Dr Dutch]

some learn their lesson and realise that more isnt always better.
Taking massive dosages whilst in a deficit is idiotic to say the least.

They all up the dosage, but some stay away from certain stuff. I guess Dexter stayed away from GH and insulin. Not completely, most mostly.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Overdieted.

FFS get yourself over to bodybuilding.com with that shite.

According to Dorian he did , in an never ending quest for conditioning he ended up burning off muscle. Recall the 1991 Mr Olympia was his only 3rd pro show ever he was still figuring things out , in those famous B&W pics he was 269lbs and eventually dropped down to 257lbs for the 93 Olympia , again sacrificing size for conditioning that was negligible at that point. 

[Dr Dutch]

According to Dorian he did , in an never ending quest for conditioning he ended up burning off muscle. Recall the 1991 Mr Olympia was his only 3rd pro show ever he was still figuring things out , in those famous B&W pics he was 269lbs and eventually dropped down to 257lbs for the 93 Olympia , again sacrificing size for conditioning that was negligible at that point. 

You can see it in his face in pictures from back then.....he had the fat % of an Ethiopian famine victim.  In fact, he was close to dying (not kidding)..

[Simple Simon]

You can see it in his face in pictures from back then.....he had the fat % of an Ethiopian famine victim.  In fact, he was close to dying (not kidding)..

and that is how it should be, sadly today, they have faces fatter than Arnold,,,,,,,from Different Strokes.

[njflex]

YATES stated at one point to get so lean and achieving it the balls of his feet hurt due to being so ripped he had nothing left anywhere..

[old-school-lifter]

Yates @ his best 93 was not the most complete

his delts were too small for his chest , so were his arms

Haney overall was more complete, his arms were his weak point, his legs in 91 were great

Ronnie was the most complete mr O