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Title: Bob Paris - was Pretty Massive in 1984
Post by: Danimal77 on August 27, 2016, 07:45:31 PM
I had the 1984 issue of Muscle and Fitness where this pic of him comes from. In that article they said he weighed 248 pounds for that photo shoot. The heaviest and most massive I believe he ever was. Does anyone know if he ever was heavier or larger than this? I believe he competed at a lean 225 pounds at 6'0".

Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Danimal77 on August 27, 2016, 07:47:11 PM
This was him that same year at the 1984 Mr. O. He looked pretty huge here, apparently with 20" upper arms at that weight. At 6'0" tall, I can believe it too.

Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Rudee on August 27, 2016, 07:58:46 PM
He was never the type to let his weight balloon off season.  He always stayed within 10lbs or so of competition weight.

Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Alfurinn on August 27, 2016, 08:59:02 PM
Very sexy.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: 240 is Back on August 27, 2016, 11:50:49 PM
Beyond Built = awesome book.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Royal Lion on August 28, 2016, 06:46:58 AM
Paris carried extra size very well and probably could have competed at a heavier weight, though he had arguably the most symmetrical, flawless (no pun intended) physique ever. Paris' physique is the epitome of the new classic division.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Mr Anabolic on August 28, 2016, 07:18:24 AM
I remember seeing him close up at the Arnold in 1989.  Looked huge to me then and very handsome (NH).  The pussy this guy could've slayed if he had been straight... boggles the mind.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: HTexan on August 28, 2016, 07:43:35 AM
Very sexy.
I believe he is gay, so you might have a shot.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: jpm101 on August 28, 2016, 09:08:41 AM
I was 12 years old in 1984 and Paris was the first BB that really impressed me at that time.  Had a great BB'ers frame/bone structure to build on and proportions because every body part seem to blend in with each other. No body part overwhelm another. Only minor flaw might have been his trunk was a bit short.. Believe he was 5'10 or 5'11.

Think if he developed more excess mass like todays BB'ers, that would have deflected from an otherwise just about perfect flow and balance of his body.

Gay and had married (legal then?) another BB'er.  Todays BB'er's look like their built in sections and never really matching  other parts of their body .......just my view.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Simple Simon on August 28, 2016, 09:14:21 AM
I saw him in 89 in a seminar in Sheffield (same day as the Hillsborough disaster) really impressive size and an unbelievably handsome and charming guy (full homo)
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Taffin on August 28, 2016, 10:02:44 AM
Yeah always a very photogenic guy (wasn't forunate enough to see him in the flesh).  But I used to get ever so mildly peeved reading his articles that suggested his symmetry was due to his exercise selection/execution rather than his genetics... OK that would have helped, but that's like Flex Wheeler penning articles on how to train for a small waist and 0% bodyfat LOL...
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Rudee on August 28, 2016, 11:46:00 AM
I've always wondered what he would look like on a current pro's drug regimen.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Simple Simon on August 28, 2016, 11:47:14 AM
I've always wondered what he would look like on a current pro's drug regimen.
a bloated mess like the rest of them
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 28, 2016, 11:51:00 AM
I was 12 years old in 1984 and Paris was the first BB that really impressed me at that time.  Had a great BB'ers frame/bone structure to build on and proportions because every body part seem to blend in with each other. No body part overwhelm another. Only minor flaw might have been his trunk was a bit short.. Believe he was 5'10 or 5'11.

Think if he developed more excess mass like todays BB'ers, that would have deflected from an otherwise just about perfect flow and balance of his body.

Gay and had married (legal then?) another BB'er.  Todays BB'er's look like their built in sections and never really matching  other parts of their body .......just my view.

He's 6'0"
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Deacon Jeschin on August 28, 2016, 04:15:05 PM
"Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984." - Rod Jackson's asshole
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Thespritz0 on August 28, 2016, 04:29:13 PM
I had the 1984 issue of Muscle and Fitness where this pic of him comes from. In that article they said he weighed 248 pounds for that photo shoot. The heaviest and most massive I believe he ever was. Does anyone know if he ever was heavier or larger than this? I believe he competed at a lean 225 pounds at 6'0".


^^
I'm pretty sure he was a LOT heavier during the off-season, he says he only took protein and creatine so what amazing gainz!!! :D
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Bevo on August 28, 2016, 06:04:44 PM
Serge nubret was better

(https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/find-a-grave-prod/photos/2011/320/80604107_132158385167.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: ChristopherA on August 28, 2016, 06:11:47 PM
Serge nubret was better

(https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/find-a-grave-prod/photos/2011/320/80604107_132158385167.jpg)
And Arnold was better than Serge. What's your point?
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Bevo on August 28, 2016, 06:25:00 PM
And Arnold was better than Serge. What's your point?

Serge is better than Paris as thier physiques are very similar in ways of asthetics, height, Arnold and serge were completely different types of physiques

Kind of how Shawn Ray and Dexter or Richard jones are a like
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Alfurinn on August 28, 2016, 06:33:30 PM
I believe he is gay, so you might have a shot.

Finding someone sexy doesn't necessarily mean desire to go to bed with that person.  But yeah, he had a sexy 80's body.

I see many bodybuilding fans take him as the ideal example of what bodybuilders should look like, but would he really succeed today when huge size is preferred over the idea of a proportionate body?
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Nether Animal on August 28, 2016, 06:43:47 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=615590.0;attach=688470;image)

damn, that is bbing right there
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: jude2 on August 28, 2016, 07:52:25 PM
He did look great.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: chokeslam on August 28, 2016, 07:56:14 PM
Bob Paris is a legend. One of, if not the BEST physique of all time.

It's a fucking shame and brutal irony that he got treated so poorly because he was a homosexual. Nothing's wrong with suckin' cock, if that's what you're into. What's really fucked up is the creepy ass HETEROSEXUAL muscle thong worshippers. Even I am embarrassed with myself as I'm straight as an arrow... I got no excuse either.

Anyway, he got the royal fuckover by the IFBB douchers. I read his book and felt sympathetic for all he went through. Homosexuality wasn't nearly as accepted as it is now. Must have been super tough.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Rudee on August 28, 2016, 08:05:57 PM
Serge nubret was better

(https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/find-a-grave-prod/photos/2011/320/80604107_132158385167.jpg)

Not a fan of his abs.  And his tiny 6" wrists made his forearms look strange.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: ChristopherA on August 28, 2016, 08:18:04 PM
Serge is better than Paris as thier physiques are very similar in ways of asthetics, height, Arnold and serge were completely different types of physiques

Kind of how Shawn Ray and Dexter or Richard jones are a like

Figured that was your point but I posted it anyways lol. Something about Serge's muscles just pop more than Paris. Serge looks so good in pictures but seeing him next to Arnold in Pumping Iron, he gets destroyed
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Danimal77 on August 28, 2016, 10:44:00 PM
I was 12 years old in 1984 and Paris was the first BB that really impressed me at that time.  Had a great BB'ers frame/bone structure to build on and proportions because every body part seem to blend in with each other. No body part overwhelm another. Only minor flaw might have been his trunk was a bit short.. Believe he was 5'10 or 5'11.

Think if he developed more excess mass like todays BB'ers, that would have deflected from an otherwise just about perfect flow and balance of his body.

Gay and had married (legal then?) another BB'er.  Todays BB'er's look like their built in sections and never really matching  other parts of their body .......just my view.

Paris was 6'0". His upper torso was not short.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Danimal77 on August 28, 2016, 10:45:41 PM
^^
I'm pretty sure he was a LOT heavier during the off-season, he says he only took protein and creatine so what amazing gainz!!! :D

Well, in 1984 he carried 248 pounds in the offseason. Could have been more in later years. Hence the reason why I asked ;-).
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Danimal77 on August 28, 2016, 10:47:29 PM
Serge is better than Paris as thier physiques are very similar in ways of asthetics, height, Arnold and serge were completely different types of physiques

Kind of how Shawn Ray and Dexter or Richard jones are a like


Bob was heavier than Serge, both in competition and in the offseason.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Kwon on August 28, 2016, 11:40:12 PM
Serge nubret was better

(https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/find-a-grave-prod/photos/2011/320/80604107_132158385167.jpg)

Nah, too black and negroid looking.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Bevo on August 28, 2016, 11:54:23 PM
Nah, too black and negroid looking.

It's either nubret or the cock gobbler  :-\ ;D
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Trev on August 29, 2016, 05:11:04 AM
Not a fan of his abs.  And his tiny 6" wrists made his forearms look strange.

Even Arnold has admitted Serge was probably the best ever! He made a 15 stone body look 18 stone! Not a single weakness.

Saw Bob Paris in seminar twice in the early '90's and he looked like a living Greek a Statue!! He should have placed a lot higher throughout his career
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: pellius on August 29, 2016, 06:20:15 AM
Even Arnold has admitted Serge was probably the best ever! He made a 15 stone body look 18 stone! Not a single weakness.

Saw Bob Paris in seminar twice in the early '90's and he looked like a living Greek a Statue!! He should have placed a lot higher throughout his career

Arnold never said that. And of course Serge had flaws. His quads and, especially, his calves. Paris was way more complete.

BTW, you might be confusing Serge with Sergio whom Arnold did consider a major threat. No major weak points and just needed to nail his conditioning. As gifted as Arnold was, Sergio was more so.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Pet shop boys on August 29, 2016, 06:31:01 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=615590.0;attach=688470;image)

Better than Frank Zane 3 XMr.O

and better than Branch Warren Mr. Arnold classic



WooOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Trev on August 29, 2016, 07:02:41 AM
Arnold never said that. And of course Serge had flaws. His quads and, especially, his calves. Paris was way more complete.

BTW, you might be confusing Serge with Sergio whom Arnold did consider a major threat. No major weak points and just needed to nail his conditioning. As gifted as Arnold was, Sergio was more so.

Arnold said it after Serge died. The IFBB banned a Serge from the 1975 Olympia originally after he released a pic of himself in shape months ahead as Arnold knew he was beaten ( this pic http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=109977.0;attach=293827 ) would have ruined "Pumping Iron" - they let him back just before the event after hearing he hadn't been training since the ban.

40 years on Arnold has nothing to prove so he can be honest now.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Kwon on August 29, 2016, 07:14:43 AM
It's either nubret or the cock gobbler  :-\ ;D

Well, what's worse!  :D ;D
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Eric2 on August 29, 2016, 07:50:45 AM
Hickory dickory dock.
Bob Paris was sucking on cock
The clock struck two
The cock shot it's goo
And Bob Paris skipped on down the block
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Natural_O on August 29, 2016, 08:01:34 AM
Paris carried extra size very well and probably could have competed at a heavier weight, though he had arguably the most symmetrical, flawless (no pun intended) physique ever. Paris' physique is the epitome of the new classic division.

Man, that's a great shot! I never saw that one before.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: NelsonMuntz on August 29, 2016, 08:53:20 AM
Man, that's a great shot! I never saw that one before.

Hey John,

Any chance of ever getting an interview with Paris?
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: njflex on August 29, 2016, 09:00:08 AM
Arnold said it after Serge died. The IFBB banned a Serge from the 1975 Olympia originally after he released a pic of himself in shape months ahead as Arnold knew he was beaten ( this pic http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=109977.0;attach=293827 ) would have ruined "Pumping Iron" - they let him back just before the event after hearing he hadn't been training since the ban.

40 years on Arnold has nothing to prove so he can be honest now.
INTERESTING..HE LOOKED AWESOME..
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Trev on August 29, 2016, 09:49:12 AM
INTERESTING..HE LOOKED AWESOME..

Did didn't he. How history could have been different?!!
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Kwon on August 29, 2016, 09:50:53 AM
Hickory dickory dock.
Bob Paris was sucking on cock
The clock struck two
The cock shot it's goo
And Bob Paris skipped on down the block

Man, that's a great poem! I never saw that one before.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Nether Animal on August 29, 2016, 09:54:13 AM
Pretty heavy here
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Kwon on August 29, 2016, 09:56:28 AM
Bob Paris is on the right

Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: njflex on August 29, 2016, 10:03:17 AM
Pretty heavy here
his last few yrs 91/92 he was pretty big and looked good,he was going against milos/porter cotrell/jj marsh,renel Javier,kev in those shows as the old guard.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Kwon on August 29, 2016, 10:05:53 AM
Bob is a great actor

Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Eric2 on August 29, 2016, 10:30:40 AM
Man, that's a great poem! I never saw that one before.


Are you going to delete your files clean your hard drive and move to mars?
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Fortress on August 29, 2016, 11:25:50 AM
Many years ago Bob Kennedy and me were talking about Bob, and he said, and I quote, "No bodybuilder looks more impressive or huge than Bob in the gym, in the offseason, when he's wearing shorts and a tank top."

Kennedy also told me how impressive Bob's strength was the times he witnessed him training. And Kennedy wasn't one to say such a thing if a guy was some sloppy, half-rep (hi, Branch!) banana head.

Paris is a well-spoken and pleasant fella who easily had one of the best physiques of all time. There's no doubt in my mind he was held back because he's gay.

Just as well. He left with his health intact.

P.S. Someone in this thread mentions Branch. When you contemplate that mess having a few Arnold titles, it's doubly depressing to consider how Bob was essentially pushed out of he winners' circle during his pro years.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Pet shop boys on August 29, 2016, 12:38:18 PM
WooSHHHHHH
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Danimal77 on August 29, 2016, 12:47:20 PM
his last few yrs 91/92 he was pretty big and looked good,he was going against milos/porter cotrell/jj marsh,renel Javier,kev in those shows as the old guard.

Any idea what he was weighing at that time?
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Danimal77 on August 29, 2016, 12:48:10 PM
WooSHHHHHH

Pretty sick physique. No homo.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Simple Simon on August 29, 2016, 12:52:58 PM
Any idea what he was weighing at that time?
he was big in the 91 Olympia but was way too soft in the glutes.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Deacon Jeschin on August 29, 2016, 03:57:55 PM
"He was big in the 91 Olympia but was way too soft in the glutes." - Rod Jackson's cock
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Royal Lion on August 29, 2016, 04:27:57 PM
He looked awesome in 1988.

Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Kwon on August 29, 2016, 04:29:31 PM
he was big in the 91 Olympia but was way too soft in the glutes.

Did you touch them?
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Kwon on August 29, 2016, 04:31:09 PM

Are you going to delete your files clean your hard drive and move to mars?
Stopped right there, cleared my history cookies and caches, restarted PC, did full PC scan, reinstalled windows and moved out of my country.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Eric2 on August 29, 2016, 07:02:43 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: njflex on August 29, 2016, 07:37:09 PM
He looked awesome in 1988.


yeah,,,one year he came in under 210 and was too small/thin,,
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Danimal77 on August 29, 2016, 08:19:01 PM
yeah,,,one year he came in under 210 and was too small/thin,,

That's like the year (1979) Rory Leidelmeyer made the mistake of over dieting and came in at like 192 pounds and people thought he had become anorexic. The least Bob Paris ever weighed was 198 pounds in the early 1980's (like 1982 or 1983). I think he averaged 225 in competition and around 250 in the offseason.

Below is a picture of Rory at 192 pounds. He never made that mistake again. He would come in at 230-235 from 1980 onwards.

Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Danimal77 on August 29, 2016, 08:21:10 PM
Rory and Bob looking fucking amazing here.

Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: chokeslam on August 29, 2016, 08:22:39 PM
Rory and Bob looking fucking amazing here.



Who needs guys like Rory and Bob when we got fucktards like Rich Piano and Bostin Loyd? LOL
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Nether Animal on August 29, 2016, 10:01:18 PM
Rory and Bob looking fucking amazing here.



Paris legitimately beating him there. Better structure. Rory was a tad narrow
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: pellius on August 29, 2016, 11:00:17 PM
Arnold said it after Serge died. The IFBB banned a Serge from the 1975 Olympia originally after he released a pic of himself in shape months ahead as Arnold knew he was beaten ( this pic http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=109977.0;attach=293827 ) would have ruined "Pumping Iron" - they let him back just before the event after hearing he hadn't been training since the ban.

40 years on Arnold has nothing to prove so he can be honest now.

Do you have a link to confirm this?

And no way on heaven and earth would the powers that be would have allowed Serge to beat Arnold. Even if Serge was better. Even if there was no Pumping Iron to promote Arnold. Even if it wasn't held in apartheid South Africa.

As far as would Arnold lie decades later? I'm sure he'll still say that Franco legit won the '81 O.

Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Danimal77 on August 30, 2016, 12:12:15 AM
Paris legitimately beating him there. Better structure. Rory was a tad narrow

They both had bench press pecs. All the guys had big chests back in the day (unlike the current Mr. O). They weren't scared to lie on a bench and press the barbell up and it showed.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Simple Simon on August 30, 2016, 01:01:04 AM
They both had bench press pecs. All the guys had big chests back in the day (unlike the current Mr. O). They weren't scared to lie on a bench and press the barbell up and it showed.
yes, its the same with barbell curl biceps and chinners lats
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Bevo on August 30, 2016, 02:38:48 AM
They both had bench press pecs. All the guys had big chests back in the day (unlike the current Mr. O). They weren't scared to lie on a bench and press the barbell up and it showed.

Think it also has to do with today bbers have massive shoulders and arms overpowering thier chest making it look weak
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: crownshep on August 30, 2016, 04:32:20 AM
That's like the year (1979) Rory Leidelmeyer made the mistake of over dieting and came in at like 192 pounds and people thought he had become anorexic. The least Bob Paris ever weighed was 198 pounds in the early 1980's (like 1982 or 1983). I think he averaged 225 in competition and around 250 in the offseason.

Below is a picture of Rory at 192 pounds. He never made that mistake again. He would come in at 230-235 from 1980 onwards.



The pic is from 81 nationals when  Rory placed 2nd to Belknap in the light heavies,Bob was at his lightest in 82 when he should have got down to light heavy but didnt make it and Haney won the heavy class at nationals,Moses Maldonado won light heavies.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Simple Simon on August 30, 2016, 04:40:14 AM
Think it also has to do with today bbers have massive shoulders and arms overpowering thier chest making it look weak
for the last 30 years bodybuilders have been concentrating on incline bench for the upper pecs.

Are there lots of bodybuilders around with overly developed upper pecs?

No, its because it doesn't matter what exercise's you do, muscle size and shape is genetic.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: OB1 on August 30, 2016, 09:28:15 AM
Serge nubret was better

(https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/find-a-grave-prod/photos/2011/320/80604107_132158385167.jpg)

Agreed.
Top 3 easily.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Rudee on August 30, 2016, 10:13:02 AM
They both had bench press pecs. All the guys had big chests back in the day (unlike the current Mr. O). They weren't scared to lie on a bench and press the barbell up and it showed.

The pecs had the illusion of looking bigger because they didn't have bloated stomachs and over-developed lats, thus chest development stood out.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Taffin on August 30, 2016, 11:17:31 AM
Paris legitimately beating him there. Better structure. Rory was a tad narrow

Totally agree - it's all about clavicular(?) width...

Also, notice how they are standing in the relaxed pose?  Arms kinda by their sides?  Makes me want to start a thread about how the 'relaxed' pose has ended up looking like this f**king abomination...  >:(

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/1809-ifbb-europa-supershow/2014/629-branch-warren/629-branch-warren-9_final.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: honest on August 30, 2016, 11:27:53 AM
That photo right there was the reason i stopped following bodybuilding, I kept a passive interest after retiring mid 90s but with the emergence of things like Branch I never went to a show or bought a magazine again or followed online outside of this G&O, the modern sport and its disregard for structure as part of the criteria is a big part of the reason the sport never progressed, I don't think it could ever have been reinvented like the UFC did to MMA, but if we could have kept physiques looking more human like Bob, the sport could have certainly had a chance at becoming something more than it is today.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Simple Simon on August 30, 2016, 11:29:38 AM
That photo right there was the reason i stopped following bodybuilding, I kept a passive interest after retiring mid 90s but with the emergence of things like Branch I never went to a show or bought a magazine again or followed online outside of this G&O, the modern sport and its disregard for structure as part of the criteria is a big part of the reason the sport never progressed, I don't think it could ever have been reinvented like the UFC did to MMA, but if we could have kept physiques looking more human like Bob, the sport could have certainly had a chance at becoming something more than it is today.
the IFBB and its judging are to blame, the athletes just try and recreate whats being rewarded,
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Danimal77 on August 30, 2016, 03:52:47 PM
Think it also has to do with today bbers have massive shoulders and arms overpowering thier chest making it look weak

Arnold and Lou both had huge arms decent sized shoulders, but their chests were massive and thick and never overpowered and I've always believed this was due to old school free weight bench pressing. It just comes with the territory.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Danimal77 on August 30, 2016, 03:55:41 PM
The pic is from 81 nationals when  Rory placed 2nd to Belknap in the light heavies,Bob was at his lightest in 82 when he should have got down to light heavy but didnt make it and Haney won the heavy class at nationals,Moses Maldonado won light heavies.

You're right, that pic of Rory was from 1981 and the year Bob weighed 1982 pounds in competition (over dieted as well) was in 1982. Thanks for reminding me. I have boxes of Muscle and Fitness magazines dating back to 1981, and Flex magazine as well which started in 1984 I believe. I stopped collecting them in 2000.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Danimal77 on August 30, 2016, 03:57:15 PM
The pecs had the illusion of looking bigger because they didn't have bloated stomachs and over-developed lats, thus chest development stood out.

Nah, guys like Flex Wheeler had TINY pecs and he was known to never do free weight bench presses. Had he done them, he could have brought up his chest size.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Natural_O on August 30, 2016, 05:06:14 PM
Hey John,

Any chance of ever getting an interview with Paris?

I would love to. If I find anyone who knows him, I'll try to interview him.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Simple Simon on August 30, 2016, 10:08:41 PM
Nah, guys like Flex Wheeler had TINY pecs and he was known to never do free weight bench presses. Had he done them, he could have brought up his chest size.
no he couldnt.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Trev on August 31, 2016, 12:55:32 AM
That photo right there was the reason i stopped following bodybuilding, I kept a passive interest after retiring mid 90s but with the emergence of things like Branch I never went to a show or bought a magazine again or followed online outside of this G&O, the modern sport and its disregard for structure as part of the criteria is a big part of the reason the sport never progressed, I don't think it could ever have been reinvented like the UFC did to MMA, but if we could have kept physiques looking more human like Bob, the sport could have certainly had a chance at becoming something more than it is today.

Ditto - Haven't been to a show now since '96! Sad ..... Hopefully it will come around again
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Alfurinn on September 01, 2016, 06:11:29 PM
There are at least two reasons why bodybuilding today is about huge proportions over the replication of the Greek body ideal as we know it:

1. If there are substances that will allow men to get a massive musculature it is expected that they were going to given them a try because for many bodybuilders there's an obsession with growing and growing, no matter what.

2. The shift from proportionate to disproportionately massive also responds to the anxiety among bodybuilding organizations to dissociate bodybuilding from homosexuality. A proportionate muscular body is inherently erotic in nature. Huge mass is read as lacking in erotic meaning and they thought that by embracing massiveness the muscular body would no longer be associate with homosexuality and eroticism. Their attempt is now associate freakness with heterosexuality. This attempt is debatable in its success...

Modern bodybuilding has always tried to re-interpret the muscular body as a sign of heterosexuality and heterosexual desire, although the attempts haven't fully succeeded.

I understand this bodybuilding was a victim of this rhetoric in modern bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Taffin on September 01, 2016, 06:26:37 PM
There are at least two reasons why bodybuilding today is about huge proportions over the replication of the Greek body ideal as we know it:

1. If there are substances that will allow men to get a massive musculature it is expected that they were going to given them a try because for many bodybuilders there's an obsession with growing and growing, no matter what.

2. The shift from proportionate to disproportionately massive also responds to the anxiety among bodybuilding organizations to dissociate bodybuilding from homosexuality. A proportionate muscular body is inherently erotic in nature. Huge mass is read as lacking in erotic meaning and they thought that by embracing massiveness the muscular body would no longer be associate with homosexuality and eroticism. Their attempt is now associate freakness with heterosexuality. This attempt is debatable in its success...

Modern bodybuilding has always tried to re-interpret the muscular body as a sign of heterosexuality and heterosexual desire, although the attempts haven't fully succeeded.

I understand this bodybuilding was a victim of this rhetoric in modern bodybuilding.

Hmmm... your point #2 is an angle I'd genuinely never considered before.  But I'm cautious of the use of the word 'they' in this way, as it implies mobilising a well thought out, communicated and executed approach to changing the game, as it were.  Perhaps 'they' are indeed capable of such strategic thoughts and actions, who knows..?

Oh, and so you're also saying bodies like these aren't attractive? LOL  ;)

(http://i28.tinypic.com/imouxi.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Alfurinn on September 01, 2016, 07:41:37 PM
Hmmm... your point #2 is an angle I'd genuinely never considered before.  But I'm cautious of the use of the word 'they' in this way, as it implies mobilising a well thought out, communicated and executed approach to changing the game, as it were.  Perhaps 'they' are indeed capable of such strategic thoughts and actions, who knows..?

Oh, and so you're also saying bodies like these aren't attractive? LOL  ;)

(http://i28.tinypic.com/imouxi.jpg)

The people who have onwed and own the bodybuilding industry.

As for your question. Beauty is in the eye of the behoder, but definitely, most people don't find those body types attractive. The element of attraction in their bodies is freakishness even though, in esence, bodybuilding seeks to exalt the Greek body ideal which Bob Paris pretty much embodied when he was young.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Taffin on September 01, 2016, 08:07:03 PM
The people who have onwed and own the bodybuilding industry.

As for your question. Beauty is in the eye of the behoder, but definitely, most people don't find those body types attractive. The element of attraction in their bodies is freakishness even though, in esence, bodybuilding seeks to exalt the Greek body ideal which Bob Paris pretty much embodied when he was young.

Sorry Alfurrin, my attempt at sarcasm failed to punch through there, even with a little wink at the end - of course bodies in this shape are a turn off for the majority of the pencil necked public, so we agree...  ;)
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Alfurinn on September 01, 2016, 09:42:50 PM
Sorry Alfurrin, my attempt at sarcasm failed to punch through there, even with a little wink at the end - of course bodies in this shape are a turn off for the majority of the pencil necked public, so we agree...  ;)

The sacrcasm in the pic? I actually noticed it.  ;D
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Danimal77 on September 01, 2016, 10:47:06 PM
Hmmm... your point #2 is an angle I'd genuinely never considered before.  But I'm cautious of the use of the word 'they' in this way, as it implies mobilising a well thought out, communicated and executed approach to changing the game, as it were.  Perhaps 'they' are indeed capable of such strategic thoughts and actions, who knows..?

Oh, and so you're also saying bodies like these aren't attractive? LOL  ;)

(http://i28.tinypic.com/imouxi.jpg)

Those waists are minimum 50". Go back to only the 90's and most top guys waists were in their low-mid 30's (with exception to Dorian and maybe Nasser).
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Pet shop boys on September 07, 2016, 12:19:49 PM
Just picture you With this physique and looks wearing a Superman shirt and walking in to the comic con this year  ;D



WooSHHHHHHHHH TA NA KA 
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: AbrahamG on September 07, 2016, 03:22:10 PM
That's like the year (1979) Rory Leidelmeyer made the mistake of over dieting and came in at like 192 pounds and people thought he had become anorexic. The least Bob Paris ever weighed was 198 pounds in the early 1980's (like 1982 or 1983). I think he averaged 225 in competition and around 250 in the offseason.

Below is a picture of Rory at 192 pounds. He never made that mistake again. He would come in at 230-235 from 1980 onwards.



Holy shit.  Look at that COCK!
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Kwon on September 07, 2016, 03:23:55 PM
Holy shit.  Look at that COCK!

Are you claiming Stiffy on stage of Peace?
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 07, 2016, 03:31:11 PM
Nah, guys like Flex Wheeler had TINY pecs and he was known to never do free weight bench presses. Had he done them, he could have brought up his chest size.

You're habitually wrong , I'll wait for your excuses
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Sam on September 07, 2016, 03:54:05 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=615590.0;attach=688765;image)


This was the reason we got into training in the first place...Today's pros are in the main a fucking embarrassment with their 50 inch guts and oil loaded physiques.
Title: books
Post by: agust on November 04, 2017, 03:13:47 PM

which book recommends me to buy from bob paris
Title: Re: books
Post by: Simple Simon on November 04, 2017, 03:15:08 PM
dont know, which book recommends you to buy from Bob Paris?
Title: Re: books
Post by: Kahn.N.Singh on November 04, 2017, 03:25:34 PM
Bob Paris recommends you to buy this book about finding honey in another's backyard.

(http://images.mobilism.org/?dm=5JHX)
Title: Re: books
Post by: Kwon on November 04, 2017, 03:26:27 PM
which book recommends me to buy from bob paris

This book recommends you to purchase from bob

(http://www.statemaster.com/wikimir/images/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4b/BobParis.jpg/180px-BobParis.jpg)
Title: Re: books
Post by: Kwon on November 04, 2017, 03:28:13 PM
Straight from the Heart - A Love story, recommends you to purchase Bob's Books

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/417JFEHRVQL.jpg)


(https://cdn-rainbowresource.netdna-ssl.com/products/019364.jpg)
Title: Re: books
Post by: calfzilla on November 04, 2017, 03:32:06 PM
I have this one. Good for a training book minus his stupid visualization exercises.

I haven't read but hear Gorilla Suit is a good book.
Title: Re: books
Post by: sync pulse on November 04, 2017, 04:02:44 PM
.
Title: Re: books
Post by: robcguns on November 04, 2017, 04:34:39 PM
Who the fuck reads books
Title: Re: books
Post by: calfzilla on November 04, 2017, 04:45:17 PM
Who the fuck reads books

Spoken like a true Hebrew  ;D
Title: Re: books
Post by: agust on November 04, 2017, 06:04:03 PM
jajajajjaa why so much hate ?
Title: Re: books
Post by: Kwon on November 04, 2017, 06:10:23 PM
jajajajjaa why so much hate ?


This Book (http://78.media.tumblr.com/4efd5b7221487f81f80eb99bfad5f9ba/tumblr_n91i4c3thJ1r0wctjo1_1280.jpg) recommends you to buy.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Simple Simon on November 05, 2017, 03:34:03 PM
He was never the type to let his weight balloon off season.  He always stayed within 10lbs or so of competition weight.



NO HE DIDNT....

Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Cableguy on November 05, 2017, 06:10:48 PM
Paris legitimately beating him there. Better structure. Rory was a tad narrow

Exactly. Rory's only flaw basically.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Nether Animal on November 05, 2017, 06:43:56 PM
Exactly. Rory's only flaw basically.

Yup, still my favourite physique. Wonder how things would have gone if his early 90s comeback panned out
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Nether Animal on November 05, 2017, 06:46:34 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=615590.0;attach=688765;image)


This was the reason we got into training in the first place...Today's pros are in the main a fucking embarrassment with their 50 inch guts and oil loaded physiques.

One of the best bbing pics ever...
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: jude2 on November 05, 2017, 08:24:03 PM
One of the best bbing pics ever...
They don't make them like that anymore.
Title: Re: Bob Paris was pretty massive in 1984
Post by: Pet shop boys on November 06, 2017, 05:50:31 AM
Bob Paris is a legend. One of, if not the BEST physique of all time.

It's a fucking shame and brutal irony that he got treated so poorly because he was a homosexual. Nothing's wrong with suckin' cock, if that's what you're into. What's really fucked up is the creepy ass HETEROSEXUAL muscle thong worshippers. Even I am embarrassed with myself as I'm straight as an arrow... I got no excuse either.

Anyway, he got the royal fuckover by the IFBB douchers. I read his book and felt sympathetic for all he went through. Homosexuality wasn't nearly as accepted as it is now. Must have been super tough.

QFT  ..Bob has to be better than any Frank Zane's Olympian winning  version .


That should put things in perspective


WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Bob Paris - was Pretty Massive in 1984
Post by: Alfurinn on November 07, 2017, 08:07:25 AM
Has the bodybuilding industry ever apologised to him?