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Title: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: RagingBull on August 28, 2016, 06:48:26 PM
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: jude2 on August 28, 2016, 07:47:51 PM
You will never see one of those people on CNN saying that.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 28, 2016, 08:04:13 PM
Who is this women? I need to start following this more often. Who cares about what she said. Damn!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: Slik on August 28, 2016, 08:55:33 PM
Landslide
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: Never1AShow on August 28, 2016, 09:04:12 PM
http://truepundit.com/trump-not-polling-well-in-pa-think-again-in-democratic-county-hes-thumping-hillary-its-simply-ugly/
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: SaintAnger on August 28, 2016, 10:36:31 PM
<sigh>

You know, these don't seem like the A-Typical arrogant, obnoxious redneck racist dumn-as-fuck Trump supporters.  They seem reasonable, down-to-earth, people who genuinely care about their cause.  Can't fault them for that.

Unfortunately, they are going to be sadly disappointed, and it should be already happening.  Trump is flip flopping on "build that GREAT wall!" BS.

Fact:  At this point, he wants the Brown vote more than theirs.

Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 28, 2016, 10:45:29 PM
Some are still arguing he flip flopped at all.
These folks also still believe Herman Cain never cheated, Carson was actually running, and many other fallacies.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: timfogarty on August 28, 2016, 11:01:53 PM
Clinton would need to lose 6 of the following 7 for Trump to win: Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Nevada, Florida, Ohio, Iowa  and North Carolina, 5 if the two she kept were the small ones.  She may lose one or two, but she's not going to lose 5 or 6 of them.

In a close race the winner is the one with the better ground game on election day.  Who better Gets Out The Vote.  Hillary is pumping money into local GOTV organization in every battleground state.  Trump has no ground org at the moment.

I'm all for the polls showing it is a close race.  Keeps our side motivated and makes them more likely to vote, which will help us retake the Senate and do well in the House.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: TuHolmes on August 28, 2016, 11:07:43 PM
I laugh at the phrase "our side".

You are not the elite of this country.

If you aren't that, you aren't on "their side".

Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2016, 05:02:33 AM
Trump is bankrupting the RNC. 
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: markofan on August 29, 2016, 05:14:37 AM
Trump is bankrupting the RNC. 

and you know that how?
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2016, 05:24:45 AM
and you know that how?


Shocking Numbers Reveal GOP’s Big Secret: Trump Is Bankrupting The Republican Party


An analysis of RNC fundraising data has revealed that beyond losing, Donald Trump's drain of a campaign is literally bankrupting the Republican Party.


n analysis of RNC fundraising data has revealed that beyond losing, Donald Trump’s drain of a campaign is literally bankrupting the Republican Party.

According to Open Secrets, RNC contributions are at their lowest point since before 2004:

Virtually every category of receipts shows a decline this year. Contributions from individuals where the amount given is less than $200 (the “unitemized” category) is less than half what it was in July of 2004, 2008 and 2012. There is a similar decline in direct contributions of larger amounts where specific information about the donor is included in the report. These itemized contributions total much less than July 2004 and 2008 and are even smaller than July 2012 when joint fundraising became much more important.

These joint fundraising efforts where the presidential campaign works together with the national party and state parties around the country are increasingly important, and the RNC total from those efforts also lags in July compared with 2012 and 2008. The Trump campaign has talked about huge joint fundraising successes, but neither the campaign nor the RNC has received all that much from this process so far comparatively.

People often look at cash balances and the end of the month to get a feel for how a committee is positioned for future spending. Here too, the RNC on July 31 was strikingly short of its own status on the same date in past campaigns. At a time when $70 to $90 million is the norm, the RNC finds itself with only $34.5 million in the bank.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/27/shocking-numbers-reveal-gops-big-secret-trump-bankrupting-republican-party.html

Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: Yamcha on August 29, 2016, 07:46:18 AM
 :D :D :D :D :D

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Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: mass243 on August 29, 2016, 08:06:22 AM
Who is this women? I need to start following this more often. Who cares about what she said. Damn!!!!!!!

It's a girl.

Plus very annoying voice and way of speaking. Womens mouths were not meant for talking



Correction: very nice young lady.
Good to see intelligent pretty young woman and find out her videos do not contain any ass shaking.
Sorry for my prejudice.

Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: devilsmile on August 29, 2016, 08:22:07 AM
I just don't believe trump even wants to be a president. Isn't he pursuing some sort of news network where he can preach his truth's? He is probably just making sure the whole nation will follow him so that he can make his news network the most lucrative news network on the planet, then high five hillary for the good show they put up

Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2016, 09:03:32 AM
I just don't believe trump even wants to be a president. Isn't he pursuing some sort of news network where he can preach his truth's? He is probably just making sure the whole nation will follow him so that he can make his news network the most lucrative news network on the planet, then high five hillary for the good show they put up

and isn't that the smarter move for donald, anyway?

He can be a hated president in a torn nation for 4 years.  He'll get a few things done, but presidents are usually hated and the shit he wants to do will be very difficult.   In 4 years, he'll be 74, fat, tired, and there will likely be no wall, just chunks of one.  He'll be an average president at best.

OR

He can establish a monster news network, rivaling fox and cnn.  Make a billion dollars.  Make his kids a huge part of it, running it.  All these suckups like Christie and Rudy can have their own shows.  Grab all those FOX viewers that hate the lies of mainstream news, left and right.  Probably even hire Megyn Kelly lol.   His legacy, his reach, his impact, already dwarfs that of Limbaugh, the industry standard for talk radio. 

TrumpTV would be awesome.  A better goal, IMHO.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: devilsmile on August 29, 2016, 09:34:17 AM
and isn't that the smarter move for donald, anyway?

He can be a hated president in a torn nation for 4 years.  He'll get a few things done, but presidents are usually hated and the shit he wants to do will be very difficult.   In 4 years, he'll be 74, fat, tired, and there will likely be no wall, just chunks of one.  He'll be an average president at best.

OR

He can establish a monster news network, rivaling fox and cnn.  Make a billion dollars.  Make his kids a huge part of it, running it.  All these suckups like Christie and Rudy can have their own shows.  Grab all those FOX viewers that hate the lies of mainstream news, left and right.  Probably even hire Megyn Kelly lol.   His legacy, his reach, his impact, already dwarfs that of Limbaugh, the industry standard for talk radio. 

TrumpTV would be awesome.  A better goal, IMHO.

Question is, will the woken people finally start doing their part and work their asses off for a better living standards? The people love to hear the truth now days, even the black and hispanic communities support trump, but at the end of the day it's the people who need to start doing things.

Imo, due to technology it's impossible for the crooked politics to hide their trash, but at the same time people don't have any real need to do squat, people are too comfortable to do shit. People will watch trump's speeches while they drink their fluoride and play with their 3d glasses at home, high as fuck.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2016, 09:44:04 AM
Question is, will the woken people finally start doing their part and work their asses off for a better living standards? The people love to hear the truth now days, even the black and hispanic communities support trump, but at the end of the day it's the people who need to start doing things.

Imo, due to technology it's impossible for the crooked politics to hide their trash, but at the same time people don't have any real need to do squat, people are too comfortable to do shit. People will watch trump's speeches while they drink their fluoride and play with their 3d glasses at home, high as fuck.

people will never do shit about anything.   they're too comfy now.   people are just to happy with smart phones and social media feels reinforcement.   they like to feel they have an opinion that matters, but we're all comfy and happy and trump/hilary won't be that much different as president. 

and IMHO, things aren't terrible right now.  I'd like to know what year trump wants to return to when things were "great" cause pick any decade, we can point out some very not great things about it.  2016 is great.  2016 is fcking awesome.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: Las Vegas on August 29, 2016, 12:58:21 PM
Clinton would need to lose 6 of the following 7 for Trump to win: Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Nevada, Florida, Ohio, Iowa  and North Carolina, 5 if the two she kept were the small ones.  She may lose one or two, but she's not going to lose 5 or 6 of them.

In a close race the winner is the one with the better ground game on election day.  Who better Gets Out The Vote.  Hillary is pumping money into local GOTV organization in every battleground state.  Trump has no ground org at the moment.

I'm all for the polls showing it is a close race.  Keeps our side motivated and makes them more likely to vote, which will help us retake the Senate and do well in the House.

The neocons?
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: Las Vegas on August 29, 2016, 01:00:02 PM
And btw, they control the media and they're doing it for the exact reasons Tim mentioned.  Yes.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: AD2100 on August 29, 2016, 01:09:40 PM
Drumpf alienated Latinos over one year ago and has said or done nothing credible to win them back.

Black Americans are the backbone of the Democrat Party, and Drumpf is currently polling at ZERO PERCENT among that demographic.


Good luck angry white guys and the women who love them! You are going to need a 90%+ turnout as well as someone to throw the ballots of Black and Latinos in the garbage to have a chance at swearing in President Drumpf next January.  ;)
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2016, 01:22:45 PM
Drumpf alienated Latinos over one year ago and has said or done nothing credible to win them back.

14 months into a campaign in which is CORE ISSUE was immigration...

and his campaign manager conway, his VP, and RNC chief Priebus... NONE OF THEM could explain his immigration plan this past weekend.

You had ONE JOB, DONALD!
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: Never1AShow on August 29, 2016, 05:27:33 PM
Uh oh, Trumps got 32 percent of Hispanic vote

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/08/29/gallup-poll-donald-trump-currently-holds-32-of-national-hispanic-vote/#more-120842

Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: Never1AShow on August 29, 2016, 05:30:24 PM
PA and Michigan and possibly Minnesota up for grabs also, sorry Timmy

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/29/polls-donald-trump-inches-striking-michigan-pennsylvania/
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: timfogarty on August 29, 2016, 05:40:13 PM
PA and Michigan and possibly Minnesota up for grabs also, sorry Timmy

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/29/polls-donald-trump-inches-striking-michigan-pennsylvania/

Pennsylvania

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/pa/pennsylvania_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5964.html

Michigan

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/mi/michigan_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-6008.html
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2016, 06:07:00 PM
Uh oh, Trumps got 32 percent of Hispanic vote

LOL @ celebrating this.  32 percent.   President Mccain had 33 percent.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: GigantorX on August 29, 2016, 07:52:35 PM
LOL @ celebrating this.  32 percent.   President Mccain had 33 percent.

Romney had 24%

Romney didn't lose because of the Hispanic vote.

3-4 more points for Trump and that might do it.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2016, 07:54:14 PM
Romney had 24%

Romney didn't lose because of the Hispanic vote.

3-4 more points for Trump and that might do it.

I'd have to see weeks & weeks of consistent polling for this to be the case.   Right now, many people bust a nut every time they see a good poll and ignore the 9 others that say otherwise.

Romney 27, Mccain 33, Bush2004 44%
And I think the hispanic # of population is 3-4% bigger today than in 2004.  Trump would have to win over another 1 in 5 hispanics, maybe 2 in 5, to win it.  He plans on wrecking that on wednesday with his immigration speech.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: Slik on August 29, 2016, 09:35:25 PM
I'd have to see weeks & weeks of consistent polling for this to be the case.   Right now, many people bust a nut every time they see a good poll and ignore the 9 others that say otherwise.

Romney 27, Mccain 33, Bush2004 44%
And I think the hispanic # of population is 3-4% bigger today than in 2004.  Trump would have to win over another 1 in 5 hispanics, maybe 2 in 5, to win it.  He plans on wrecking that on wednesday with his immigration speech.
u r assuming that Hispanics want more illegals coming in. Who knows what's gonna happen in the election but it's getting very interesting now.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 29, 2016, 10:09:07 PM

Shocking Numbers Reveal GOP’s Big Secret: Trump Is Bankrupting The Republican Party


An analysis of RNC fundraising data has revealed that beyond losing, Donald Trump's drain of a campaign is literally bankrupting the Republican Party.


n analysis of RNC fundraising data has revealed that beyond losing, Donald Trump’s drain of a campaign is literally bankrupting the Republican Party.

According to Open Secrets, RNC contributions are at their lowest point since before 2004:

Virtually every category of receipts shows a decline this year. Contributions from individuals where the amount given is less than $200 (the “unitemized” category) is less than half what it was in July of 2004, 2008 and 2012. There is a similar decline in direct contributions of larger amounts where specific information about the donor is included in the report. These itemized contributions total much less than July 2004 and 2008 and are even smaller than July 2012 when joint fundraising became much more important.

These joint fundraising efforts where the presidential campaign works together with the national party and state parties around the country are increasingly important, and the RNC total from those efforts also lags in July compared with 2012 and 2008. The Trump campaign has talked about huge joint fundraising successes, but neither the campaign nor the RNC has received all that much from this process so far comparatively.

People often look at cash balances and the end of the month to get a feel for how a committee is positioned for future spending. Here too, the RNC on July 31 was strikingly short of its own status on the same date in past campaigns. At a time when $70 to $90 million is the norm, the RNC finds itself with only $34.5 million in the bank.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/27/shocking-numbers-reveal-gops-big-secret-trump-bankrupting-republican-party.html



I see. You read an article that fit your argument and went with it. Got it!
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: timfogarty on August 29, 2016, 10:26:27 PM
Uh oh, Trumps got 32 percent of Hispanic vote

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/08/29/gallup-poll-donald-trump-currently-holds-32-of-national-hispanic-vote/

wait a second.  they take the gallup poll, which says 65% Clinton, and 21% Trump, and change some of the numbers, and come up with different numbers.  How did unskewing the polls work for you guy last time?

Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2016, 10:37:26 PM
wait a second.  they take the gallup poll, which says 65% Clinton, and 21% Trump, and change some of the numbers, and come up with different numbers.  How did unskewing the polls work for you guy last time?

President Romney has done a fantastic job.

I see. You read an article that fit your argument and went with it. Got it!

It's gotta suck to see Trump bankrupting the RNC.  The numbers don't lie.  They have 1/3 of what they had last time at this point.  Trump is wrecking his own party. 
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: Never1AShow on August 29, 2016, 10:40:17 PM
wait a second.  they take the gallup poll, which says 65% Clinton, and 21% Trump, and change some of the numbers, and come up with different numbers.  How did unskewing the polls work for you guy last time?

What was democrat turnout last time?  Think it'll be the same this time without Obama, and with all those Bernie voters staying home?  Hell, it wasn't even the same during this primary season.  Hillary is hated by the working folks.  Trump brought back Reagan democrats.  
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: Never1AShow on August 29, 2016, 10:41:50 PM
President Romney has done a fantastic job.

It's gotta suck to see Trump bankrupting the RNC.  The numbers don't lie.  They have 1/3 of what they had last time at this point.  Trump is wrecking his own party. 

Still waiting for that quote you promised where Trump says he'll deport only felons.  Hillary has said even worse though, she'll only deport Serious Violent felons.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2016, 10:50:08 PM
What was democrat turnout last time?  Think it'll be the same this time without Obama, and with all those Bernie voters staying home?  Hell, it wasn't even the same during this primary season.  Hillary is hated by the working folks.  Trump brought back Reagan democrats. 

It's so weird how these numbers aren't reflected in polls.   Polls which were insanely accurate in 2012.

Still waiting for that quote you promised where Trump says he'll deport only felons.  Hillary has said even worse though, she'll only deport Serious Violent felons.

You're the last human being on this planet that doesn't think Trump flipflopped on this.  He said he'd deport them all, then he said the good ones can stay.  I hate hilary, but she's gonna be the next president, dude. 
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: mr.turbo on August 30, 2016, 10:27:26 AM
the nominee will finalize his immigration position shortly

big speech planned for tomorrow
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: mazrim on August 30, 2016, 10:31:47 AM
It's so weird how these numbers aren't reflected in polls.   Polls which were insanely accurate in 2012.

You're the last human being on this planet that doesn't think Trump flipflopped on this.  He said he'd deport them all, then he said the good ones can stay.  I hate hilary, but she's gonna be the next president, dude. 
Unfortunately, if you promised "a promise is a promise".....unless you were just lying again.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 30, 2016, 10:55:07 AM
the nominee will finalize his immigration position shortly

big speech planned for tomorrow

he was VERY clear about his immigration plan.   deport ALL illegals and they can apply to get back in.

Now his supporters are trying to backpedal about "oh, he's gonna clarify".  If anything, immigration was the ONLY issue where trump was crystal-freakin-clear for 14 months.  His new campaign manager conway intro'd this doubt into it, and he's been scrambling since. 

"Softening" = flipflopping.   His butthurt supporters will do anything do sidestep that.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: mr.turbo on August 30, 2016, 12:34:23 PM
he was VERY clear about his immigration plan.   deport ALL illegals and they can apply to get back in.

Now his supporters are trying to backpedal about "oh, he's gonna clarify".  If anything, immigration was the ONLY issue where trump was crystal-freakin-clear for 14 months.  His new campaign manager conway intro'd this doubt into it, and he's been scrambling since. 

"Softening" = flipflopping.   His butthurt supporters will do anything do sidestep that.


he went on hannity and asked the audience for ideas

all hell broke loose

palin and coulter freaked out

lets hope they figure out the final position soon!



Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: SaintAnger on August 30, 2016, 12:53:11 PM
he went on hannity and asked the audience for ideas

all hell broke loose

palin and coulter freaked out

lets hope they figure out the final position soon!

Anyone got the video of this?
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: mr.turbo on August 30, 2016, 12:57:17 PM
Anyone got the video of this?

Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 30, 2016, 02:11:21 PM
he went on hannity and asked the audience for ideas

all hell broke loose

palin and coulter freaked out

lets hope they figure out the final position soon!

That was so hilarious.  It was last Tuesday I think.  Asked the crowd what he should think. 

His team or him have delivered 9 variations on his position in 11 days.  I suspect he will steal the liberal "touch foot" position tomorrow- technically amnesty. 
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: mr.turbo on August 30, 2016, 06:23:02 PM
That was so hilarious.  It was last Tuesday I think.  Asked the crowd what he should think. 

His team or him have delivered 9 variations on his position in 11 days.  I suspect he will steal the liberal "touch foot" position tomorrow- technically amnesty. 

he will reverse his position into something more reality based and claim nothing has changed

they need to get the moderates on board

Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 30, 2016, 06:28:41 PM
he will reverse his position into something more reality based and claim nothing has changed

they need to get the moderates on board

I wonder how people can believe anything Trump says after revoking the #1 issue of his platform and completely embracing the Jeb/ Romney/ Obama Amnesty plan?   

Trump = A marginally competent lifetime liberal with no grasp of the issues.
I can see how marginally competent people with no grasp of politics would like him.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 30, 2016, 06:32:02 PM
SELLOUT!

Trump considers last-minute meeting in Mexico with the country’s president

Donald Trump is considering jetting to Mexico City on Wednesday for a meeting with Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto, just hours before he delivers a high-stakes speech in Arizona to clarify his views on immigration policy, according to people in the United States and Mexico familiar with the discussions.

The possibility, which was hatched in recent days by Trump and his campaign advisers, comes after Trump has wavered for weeks over whether he would continue to hold his hard-line positions on the central and incendiary issue of his campaign, in particular his call to deport an estimated 11 million immigrants who are living in the United States illegally.

The people informed of Trump’s plans requested anonymity due to the sensitivity surrounding its planning. They said late Tuesday that talks between the Trump campaign and Mexican officials were ongoing, with Trump interested in going but logistics and security concerns still being sorted out.

Peña Nieto has extended an invitation for the businessman to come visit with him in Mexico to talk about various political and economic issues, the people said. Trump, sensing an opportunity, decided over the weekend to accept the invitation and push for a visit this week.

-snip-

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-considers-last-minute-meeting-in-mexico-with-the-countrys-president/2016/08/30/5a694790-6f12-11e6-9705-23e51a2f424d_story.html?wpisrc=al_alert-COMBO-politics%252Bnation
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: mr.turbo on August 30, 2016, 06:43:41 PM
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 30, 2016, 07:18:05 PM


GREAT call.  Jeb, Kasich, rubio, they were ALL CORRECT about Trump.   It was definitely a flip flop.


Trump is working to elect hilary and bankrupt the RNC.  He's doing a fine job.   Sure, some folks can't admit it, because they would feel foolish.


Nobody called out trump early on, about his absurd policy.  The repub voters just wanted him too much. 

Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: mr.turbo on August 30, 2016, 08:30:03 PM
I wonder how people can believe anything Trump says after revoking the #1 issue of his platform and completely embracing the Jeb/ Romney/ Obama Amnesty plan?  

Trump = A marginally competent lifetime liberal with no grasp of the issues.
I can see how marginally competent people with no grasp of politics would like him.

the core supporters aren't exactly *critical thinkers*

I gather the assumption is they can be bamboozled into accepting this.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 30, 2016, 08:31:37 PM
the core supporters aren't exactly *critical thinkers*
I gather the assumption is they can be bamboozled into accepting this

yes, trump believes he'll keep "enough of them" and gain "just a few more" to make selling out his #1 belief worth it. 

ANything to win - i get it.  But anyone who still claims trump is an outsider, incapable of selling out or giving up his core beliefs... well, he's just hilary in a suit.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: mr.turbo on August 30, 2016, 08:48:33 PM
yes, trump believes he'll keep "enough of them" and gain "just a few more" to make selling out his #1 belief worth it. 

ANything to win - i get it.  But anyone who still claims trump is an outsider, incapable of selling out or giving up his core beliefs... well, he's just hilary in a suit.

they should renounce him immediately

sad to see his supporters so brutally humilated
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: SaintAnger on August 30, 2016, 08:56:30 PM
Children.

The audience should be ashamed of themselves.  Hooting and hollering and the whim of another grown man.  Reminded me of how we as kids behaved in front of a teacher.

Fucking disgraceful.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 30, 2016, 09:02:23 PM
think about the early months, when trump supporters were fistfighting with protesters in the streets.

If trump is honest right then - saying he supports amnesty for the 'good ones' - many of those supporters aren't quite so passionate.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: mr.turbo on August 30, 2016, 09:10:41 PM
have to say I never behaved in such a boorish manner as a child but that's just me.

 ;D
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 30, 2016, 10:37:18 PM
all kidding aside... WTF is trump's team SUPPOSED to say?

"We're down by 5+ nationally, with half the money, and we are reduced to hispanic pandering and int'l trip because we're losing so badly in swing states, and have a snowball's chance of winning"  ???

They HAVE to say the polls are all rigged.  ANything less is essentially admitting they will probably lose this. 
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: Yamcha on August 31, 2016, 05:59:30 AM
all kidding aside... WTF is trump's team SUPPOSED to say?

"We're down by 5+ nationally, with half the money, and we are reduced to hispanic pandering and int'l trip because we're losing so badly in swing states, and have a snowball's chance of winning"  ???

They HAVE to say the polls are all rigged.  ANything less is essentially admitting they will probably lose this. 

They were down by 10+ just last week...
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 31, 2016, 06:06:54 AM
They were down by 10+ just last week...

that was hilary's bounce.   SHe was up 3-4 points regularly before the convention, and she's up that now, after that all settled down.

If it's within 3 points, anything can happen on election day.  However, she has huge advantages in a few areas:

- Her GOTV effort is very effective
- Trump pissing off his base right now
- SHe has way more money ready
- She is likely to be more solid in debates
- Early voting starting soon
- She knows how to cheat, and will
- she is leading in key swing states

Trump has to be PERFECT to beat her.   It's can't just be close and go his way. 
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: Yamcha on August 31, 2016, 06:32:46 AM
that was hilary's bounce.   SHe was up 3-4 points regularly before the convention, and she's up that now, after that all settled down.

If it's within 3 points, anything can happen on election day.  However, she has huge advantages in a few areas:

- Her GOTV effort is very effective
- Trump pissing off his base right now
- SHe has way more money ready
- She is likely to be more solid in debates
- Early voting starting soon
- She knows how to cheat, and will
- she is leading in key swing states

Trump has to be PERFECT to beat her.   It's can't just be close and go his way. 

 - Nothing she has ever done, besides cheating/lying/manipulation, has ever been effective.
 - That's why there was a line over 14 blocks long to see Trump speak in WA state yesterday
 - She will be fumbling her words without her teleprompter, Trump will rattle her early and often
 - Not sure what early voting has to do with anything
 - She is under a microscope; her cheating will not go unnoticed in this day and age (not saying that it actually matters though)
 - I can pull up polls where she is behind in both Florida and Ohio. Polls are garbage. Even the LA Times daily tracker poll that has Trump leading
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 31, 2016, 06:39:50 AM
- Nothing she has ever done, besides cheating/lying/manipulation, has ever been effective.
 - That's why there was a line over 14 blocks long to see Trump speak in WA state yesterday
 - She will be fumbling her words without her teleprompter, Trump will rattle her early and often
 - Not sure what early voting has to do with anything
 - She is under a microscope; her cheating will not go unnoticed in this day and age (not saying that it actually matters though)
 - I can pull up polls where she is behind in both Florida and Ohio. Polls are garbage. Even the LA Times daily tracker poll that has Trump leading

Early voting is HUGE.   Any changes Trump can do to improve things won't matter if people have already voted.

"Polls are garbage" worked until 2012, when they were scary accurate and Karl Rove/FOX were sitting there mouth ajar at 9pm. 

She was a better debater than obama.  She has a very strong grip on policy and kept walking obama intro Traps, and he was a Senator with way more national/lawmaking/politics experience than Trump.

Harry Reid just came out and said Russia is hacking our voter rolls in AZ.   If Hilary loses, the dems can just point at trump asking Russia to hack hilary, and they'll blame any loss on him and his meddling Ruskie buddies.

If Trump doesn't win the election by 3 points, by 50 electoral votes... if it's close at ALL, she will steal it or de-legitimize it. 

Trump has to be be perfect.  OH, MICH, PENN, he has to win almost all of them. 
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: Yamcha on August 31, 2016, 06:45:04 AM
Clinton staffers using 'Snowden-approved' app to hide Trump-related conversations


Staffers from Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton's campaign were reportedly advised to use a special app when communicating about Republican nominee Donald Trump to hide information from hackers, Vanity Fair reported.

The app, called Signal, is "Snowden-approved," according to Vanity Fair.
Snowden has praised Signal in the past. He said on Twitter that he uses the app "every single day."

The app uses end-to-end encryption. The point of it is to make sure only the people sending and receiving a message are able to see it.

“We cannot hear your conversations, and no one else can either,” the app says, regarding phone calls made using it. “No exceptions.”

The app also has a method to make sure you are talking to the correct person and to ensure the call hasn't been compromised.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/293604-clinton-staffers-using-snowden-approved-app-to-hide-trump (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/293604-clinton-staffers-using-snowden-approved-app-to-hide-trump)
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: Yamcha on August 31, 2016, 06:49:54 AM
Clinton emailed classified info after leaving State: report

The Democratic presidential nominee sent an email to a group of diplomats and aides on May 28, 2013, about the "123 Deal" — a 2009 agreement between the United Arab Emirates and the U.S. regarding nuclear energy production — according to the Post.
The email, which was sent months after she left the State Department, was sent to people including Deputy Secretary of State William Burns, diplomat Jeffrey Feltman, policy aide Jake Sullivan, diplomat Kurt Campbell, State Department chief of staff Cheryl Mills and top aide Huma Abedin.

It was sent from the address hrod17@clintonemail.com — which is associated with Clinton's private email server — and has been heavily redacted because it includes information that is classified, according to The Post.

The message will be declassified on May 28, 2033, according to markings on the email, which was obtained by the Republican National Committee through a Freedom of Information Act request.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 31, 2016, 06:53:39 AM
This trump/russia shit will be his downfall.

he publicly promised favorable coverage to Russia if they'd just go ahead and hack hilary for him.  Think on that.

This week, we learned RUS hacked voter rolls in arizona and can hack our voting machines.  Snowden is promising all this bad shit on hilary right before debate and an october surprise - he's a complete repub partisan backer now.  Oh, and he has his own show on Russia Times tv network.

Russia, hackers, and Trump are working together - publicly - to defeat hilary. 

NOW... if election is close, and hilary claims something was hacked, people WILL believe it because trump and his buddy-buddy with Putin, hackers, assange.... yes, hilary will get the win if it comes to that. 

Trump should be staying MILES from russian hackers, not begging them to do it.   Dumb move.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: Yamcha on August 31, 2016, 07:01:59 AM
This trump/russia shit will be his downfall.

he publicly promised favorable coverage to Russia if they'd just go ahead and hack hilary for him.  Think on that.

This week, we learned RUS hacked voter rolls in arizona and can hack our voting machines.  Snowden is promising all this bad shit on hilary right before debate and an october surprise - he's a complete repub partisan backer now.  Oh, and he has his own show on Russia Times tv network.

Russia, hackers, and Trump are working together - publicly - to defeat hilary. 

NOW... if election is close, and hilary claims something was hacked, people WILL believe it because trump and his buddy-buddy with Putin, hackers, assange.... yes, hilary will get the win if it comes to that. 

Trump should be staying MILES from russian hackers, not begging them to do it.   Dumb move.

There you go diverting attention away from Hillary's scandals by bringing in the Russians.

I am fully convinced that you are paid to shill for Clinton. How much does Correct the Record pay? $8/hr.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 31, 2016, 07:07:09 AM
There you go diverting attention away from Hillary's scandals by bringing in the Russians.

I am fully convinced that you are paid to shill for Clinton. How much does Correct the Record pay? $8/hr.

It was big news yesterday.  Russia hacking U.S. elections is pretty big news.  I know repubs would rather talk about the classified emails stolen from us govt because espionage is okay when it hurts dems.

Trump gift wrapped a present for Hillary.  If the election is close, she can just claim hackers from Russia, working for trump and assange, did this.  Believable.  He asked them to hack to help him in polls, why wouldn't he ask for similar illegal hacking to win the election count?
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: iwantmass on August 31, 2016, 07:09:53 AM
This trump/russia shit will be his downfall.

he publicly promised favorable coverage to Russia if they'd just go ahead and hack hilary for him.  Think on that.

This week, we learned RUS hacked voter rolls in arizona and can hack our voting machines.  Snowden is promising all this bad shit on hilary right before debate and an october surprise - he's a complete repub partisan backer now.  Oh, and he has his own show on Russia Times tv network.

Russia, hackers, and Trump are working together - publicly - to defeat hilary. 

NOW... if election is close, and hilary claims something was hacked, people WILL believe it because trump and his buddy-buddy with Putin, hackers, assange.... yes, hilary will get the win if it comes to that. 

Trump should be staying MILES from russian hackers, not begging them to do it.   Dumb move.

Link to where he promised favorable coverage to Russia if they would hack hillary for him. 
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: Yamcha on August 31, 2016, 07:13:30 AM
It was big news yesterday.  Russia hacking U.S. elections is pretty big news.  I know repubs would rather talk about the classified emails stolen from us govt because espionage is okay when it hurts dems.

Trump gift wrapped a present for Hillary.  If the election is close, she can just claim hackers from Russia, working for trump and assange, did this.  Believable.  He asked them to hack to help him in polls, why wouldn't he ask for similar illegal hacking to win the election count?

It's assumed that it was Russians because Harry Reid (Democrat) said it was the Russians, am I correct?

It's a narrative that is being fed by the Democrats to the media to distract from the content of the hacks. It shows that 1. Hillary ran a pay to play operation at the State Dept. and 2. that our polling data/stations are insecure. Both things need to be addressed by authorities.... but Russians ammirite?!
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: Yamcha on August 31, 2016, 07:16:11 AM


Jesus, Hillary looks like shit and is spewing that ass juice out of her mouth...

Speaking of Democrats:

Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: Never1AShow on August 31, 2016, 07:55:46 AM
Not just LA Times tracking poll, Ipsos also had the tied yesterday and is showing a big drop for Her.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: polychronopolous on August 31, 2016, 09:36:51 AM
Trump has all the momentum. Shaking hands with the black pastors...knocking on doors in the barrios and favelas.

These discussions about a tightening race will be largely irrelevant in a few weeks when The Don is sitting on a comfortable cushion.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 31, 2016, 11:06:10 AM
Link to where he promised favorable coverage to Russia if they would hack hillary for him. 

how did you miss it?  it was the biggest news story for a few days.   Are you trying to stall, or you legit didn't hear him say this?
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: Never1AShow on August 31, 2016, 10:36:32 PM
how did you miss it?  it was the biggest news story for a few days.   Are you trying to stall, or you legit didn't hear him say this?

You are lying again about what he said, hence no link. 
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 31, 2016, 10:42:58 PM
You are lying again about what he said, hence no link. 

Explain a world where it's presidential to say some shit like this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/28/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-clinton-emails.html?_r=0

Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on September 01, 2016, 04:49:01 AM
and you know that how?

Did we agree that the bobby-pin wearing elderly man is, in fact, bankrupting the RNC?    Their cash is at insane lows, 1/3 of former levels at this same point, by their own account.   Libs didn't make up these numbers.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: Yamcha on September 01, 2016, 06:51:21 AM
Did we agree that the bobby-pin wearing elderly man is, in fact, bankrupting the RNC?    Their cash is at insane lows, 1/3 of former levels at this same point, by their own account.   Libs didn't make up these numbers.

Why should he raise money for the RNC? By the media's logic, only a handful from the party actually support him...

Let the establishment die. They only did it to themselves.

ALSO: it's all sunshine and rainbows over at the DNC? Please... if Hillary doesn't win/steal the election, the DNC will be covered in shit from the countless scandals; they did it to themselves as well. 
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on September 01, 2016, 07:47:27 AM
Not sure u understand. 

He fundraises for them, and they build that gotv effort in 50 states
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on September 01, 2016, 07:48:35 AM
Yes, the dnc has hundreds of millions more.  i started a threAd months back showing Hilary will end up half a billion ahead.  It's coming true. 
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: Yamcha on September 01, 2016, 08:11:58 AM
Not sure u understand. 

He fundraises for them, and they build that gotv effort in 50 states

I do understand. Why should he fundraise money for the assholes who won't even endorse/support him?
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on September 01, 2016, 08:52:04 AM
I do understand. Why should he fundraise money for the assholes who won't even endorse/support him?

because they are hiring people and setting up offices and building an infrastructure for 'get out the vote' effort for Nov 8th. 

Trump didn't bother to do that, oddly.   He's behind romney 2012 in terms of fundraising for himself as well
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/donald-trumps-fundraising-lags-behind-romneys-documents-show/

The candidate traditionally works to help others in the party get elected, and fundraises for them - and they do the same, using their network of people and offices to help him.   Trump isn't working with the RNC, and has said some mean things about them in the past.

It's just not what a person does if they want to win.  It's odd.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: Tre on September 01, 2016, 09:22:57 AM
I'm an anti-Hilliary independent.  I hope Trump wins.  And then quits. 

"I just wanted to beat that entitled little prick is all. Mission accomplished."   

#hillno
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: Yamcha on September 01, 2016, 09:29:55 AM
because they are hiring people and setting up offices and building an infrastructure for 'get out the vote' effort for Nov 8th. 

Trump didn't bother to do that, oddly.   He's behind romney 2012 in terms of fundraising for himself as well
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/donald-trumps-fundraising-lags-behind-romneys-documents-show/

The candidate traditionally works to help others in the party get elected, and fundraises for them - and they do the same, using their network of people and offices to help him.   Trump isn't working with the RNC, and has said some mean things about them in the past.

It's just not what a person does if they want to win.  It's odd.

Why even compare his campaign/fundraising efforts to McCain and Romney?

How'd there fundraising help them? It helped them get republicans down the ticket re-elected...  What has a Republican Senate/House done? Nothing. The establishment IS the problem. I couldn't care less if the Republican party crashes and burns. Something new will take its place, with the GOP name or not.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on September 01, 2016, 09:39:09 AM
Why even compare his campaign/fundraising efforts to McCain and Romney?

How'd there fundraising help them? It helped them get republicans down the ticket re-elected...  What has a Republican Senate/House done? Nothing. The establishment IS the problem. I couldn't care less if the Republican party crashes and burns. Something new will take its place, with the GOP name or not.

Their fundraising was less than Obama's.   In 94% of races, the candidate with the most money wins.  Cool thread on getbig on it a while back.

Trump's not even close in the money side.  This means his GOTV effort on election day, if it exists at all, will be very small.  hilary will be busing in people form nursing homes and digging up Chicago graveyards to vote.  Trump will just hope for the best.

JFK only won because his dad cheated better.  Everyone cheats with the GOTV effort.  Watch "BOSS" on NetFlix... awesome political show with Kelsey Grammar that really shows the shady side of the GOTV effort.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: OB1 on September 01, 2016, 11:58:17 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=615654.0;attach=688931;image)

Antenna for remote control.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on September 01, 2016, 12:35:52 PM
obama took a pretty bad beating for his mom jeans.   I hope those people are just as loud about their president wearing bobbypins.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: The True Adonis on September 01, 2016, 01:39:48 PM
Their fundraising was less than Obama's.   In 94% of races, the candidate with the most money wins.  Cool thread on getbig on it a while back.

Trump's not even close in the money side.  This means his GOTV effort on election day, if it exists at all, will be very small.  hilary will be busing in people form nursing homes and digging up Chicago graveyards to vote.  Trump will just hope for the best.

JFK only won because his dad cheated better.  Everyone cheats with the GOTV effort.  Watch "BOSS" on NetFlix... awesome political show with Kelsey Grammar that really shows the shady side of the GOTV effort.
Money and Fundraising (more than anyone else) did nothing for Jeb Bush it seems.  :-\
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on September 01, 2016, 02:02:53 PM
Money and Fundraising (more than anyone else) did nothing for Jeb Bush it seems.  :-\

that was the primary.   there was no stopping trump.  the low-education nascar fans anointed trump the winner early on. 

There aren't any swing voters in the primaries.  the extreme decides.

Trump has to win the middle 6% that decide every election.  TV time during "Big Brother" or "Dancing with the stars" showing Trump dropping F bombs and imitating the handicapped are very effective. 

In the polls trump's doing well, he's still at 41 or 42%.  Hilary's bouncing between 48 and 38 in polls.  Trump's pretty solid.  I don't see anything he can do, any moves, to magically win 49 or 50% of the population.  The 7% of the nation that thinks he's an idiot aren't going to change.   They would rather have the nation in the hands of a highly capable criminal (hilary) than a wide-eyed obnoxious dude who might make us great, or might start WW3.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: timfogarty on September 01, 2016, 02:42:33 PM
Clinton smashes fundraising record, bringing in $143M in August

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/01/politics/clinton-campaign-smashes-fundraising-record/index.html

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Yes the polls have tightened, erasing the post convention bounce. But last night's speech will motivate minorities and get Stein and Johnson supporters to realize how dangerous not voting for Clinton could be.  And then come the debates. Does anyone think Trump can win over voters in a debate standing next to Clinton?  He seems to only have two modes: wimpy reserved Trump as he was yesterday standing next to the president of Mexico, or out of control demagogue as he was last night in Phoenix.  Neither version will do well with the swing voters who will decide the general election.
Title: Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
Post by: 240 is Back on September 01, 2016, 05:32:07 PM
Clinton smashes fundraising record, bringing in $143M in August

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/01/politics/clinton-campaign-smashes-fundraising-record/index.html

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Yes the polls have tightened, erasing the post convention bounce. But last night's speech will motivate minorities and get Stein and Johnson supporters to realize how dangerous not voting for Clinton could be.  And then come the debates. Does anyone think Trump can win over voters in a debate standing next to Clinton?  He seems to only have two modes: wimpy reserved Trump as he was yesterday standing next to the president of Mexico, or out of control demagogue as he was last night in Phoenix.  Neither version will do well with the swing voters who will decide the general election.

I read on getbig that fundraising doesn't matter.

SO there's that.   What did trump raise?  I know he exaggerated last months by 10 million, right?  Bragged about 90 when it was really 80 when he filed?