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Seems that way - a plant for the repubs - never planned to win - Team Trump all the way.
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lol
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parkinson's has a way of changing things.
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you're celebrating a dem named Trump is catching a sick dem named hilary. look at that.
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parkinson's has a way of changing things.
you're celebrating a dem named Trump is catching a sick dem named hilary. look at that.
When all else fail....bring up something from 25 years ago. Hahahahah
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When all else fail....bring up something from 25 years ago. Hahahahah
but you lied about it in 2016, didn't you?
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trump is promising everything right now. grow the military while cutting taxes for everything while making childcare free, while building wall.
oh yes - and he promised to completely end the national debt of 21 trillion in his 8 years. THink about how illogical that is.
He's a dem promising everything to everyone. If he ends up president, it'll be daily democrat policy. Coach, as a clinton voter, you gonna love it.
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anyone who thinks we're going to being back thousands of factories to the US, as trump just promised, is living in a 1950s bubble and doens't realize globalization is here and cannot be reversed.
everyone is using cheap labor. Unless we're ready to pay $2000 for an ipad, it ain't happening. Promising 35% tariffs on everything from MEX and CHINA will completely kill the lower and middle class. Yes, it'll create a million new jobs... but 310 million people will have to pay for it with higher prices.
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People were preaching fire and brimstone about Brexit too.
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trump is promising everything right now. grow the military while cutting taxes for everything while making childcare free, while building wall.
oh yes - and he promised to completely end the national debt of 21 trillion in his 8 years. THink about how illogical that is.
He's a dem promising everything to everyone. If he ends up president, it'll be daily democrat policy. Coach, as a clinton voter, you gonna love it.
He won't be president so why post this? He is a plant for Hillary.
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anyone who thinks we're going to being back thousands of factories to the US, as trump just promised, is living in a 1950s bubble and doens't realize globalization is here and cannot be reversed.
everyone is using cheap labor. Unless we're ready to pay $2000 for an ipad, it ain't happening. Promising 35% tariffs on everything from MEX and CHINA will completely kill the lower and middle class. Yes, it'll create a million new jobs... but 310 million people will have to pay for it with higher prices.
If people have good paying jobs, then they can pay higher prices. The good paying jobs are gone, so those people, now working several part time minimum wage jobs, can't afford to buy anything, except basic food and shelter. High tariffs worked well for the USA's first 125 years, and made this country strong. Judiciously applied, tariffs will work well for the American people again.
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If people have good paying jobs, then they can pay higher prices.
35% higher on everything from spatulas to ipads to ford focues?
300 million americans aren't getting 35% raises, man. This is a loss no matter how you frame it.
VERY short sighted thinking to believe we can ever compete on manufacturing with china or mex. NO. we conquer with innovation, by investing resources in education, new energy, tech, and more.
Trump is trying to ban cars and require horse buggies while the rest of the world is getting Model T's. Can't work.
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35% higher on everything from spatulas to ipads to ford focues?
300 million americans aren't getting 35% raises, man. This is a loss no matter how you frame it.
VERY short sighted thinking to believe we can ever compete on manufacturing with china or mex. NO. we conquer with innovation, by investing resources in education, new energy, tech, and more.
Trump is trying to ban cars and require horse buggies while the rest of the world is getting Model T's. Can't work.
You're wrong! Without the good paying jobs, that used to exist here, most people can't buy iPads at all! Not, at $2000, and not even at $200. Globalization, free trade = fuck the average American worker.
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Trump would be the biggest lardass in the white house since William Taft
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Trump would be the biggest lardass in the white house since William Taft
(https://ethicsalarms.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/william-howard-taft.jpg)
Also the tallest since Lincoln
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Trump would be the biggest lardass in the white house since William Taft
(https://ethicsalarms.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/william-howard-taft.jpg)
Billy Boy Clinton was the last fat ass President. Even Monica said he would try to suck in his stomach, but couldn't, while she was sucking him.
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Trump is 6' 2" , bill clinton is the same height minus the 2 inch run on his head
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speaking of bill Clinton....
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You're wrong! Without the good paying jobs, that used to exist here, most people can't buy iPads at all! Not, at $2000, and not even at $200. Globalization, free trade = fuck the average American worker.
I dont know where you're getting your info "most people can't buy ipads, even at $200".
Over 50% of americans own at least 1 ipad/tablet.
http://marketingland.com/pew-50-percent-in-us-now-own-tablet-or-e-reader-70765
Globalization is the reality now. If the USA closes its doors, the rest of the world will progress without us. things we buy are just so cheap now overseas... no way 99% of people will pay 35% more for the same stuff, so that 1% of the population can get jobs working in factories again. That ship has sailed.
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Lol.....brutal
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Hillary had a "presser" today for first time since collapsing.
First question, no lie: "What did you binge watch during your bedrest?"
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/09/15/clinton_talks_to_press_after_illness_asked_what_she_watched_while_she_was_on_bedrest_for_pneumonia.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/09/15/clinton_talks_to_press_after_illness_asked_what_she_watched_while_she_was_on_bedrest_for_pneumonia.html)
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I dont know where you're getting your info "most people can't buy ipads, even at $200".
Over 50% of americans own at least 1 ipad/tablet.
http://marketingland.com/pew-50-percent-in-us-now-own-tablet-or-e-reader-70765
Globalization is the reality now. If the USA closes its doors, the rest of the world will progress without us. things we buy are just so cheap now overseas... no way 99% of people will pay 35% more for the same stuff, so that 1% of the population can get jobs working in factories again. That ship has sailed.
So that proves 165 million Americans can't afford an iPad. Even those who can afford a tablet, how many are iPads? Not the majority! Most are cheap less functional ones. Free Trade = the impoverishment of America. Bring back Fair Trade, as Trump wants to do, and he brings back America's good paying jobs. You can spout the Establishment lies about how wonderful Free Trade is, the reality is Free Trade = low paying jobs. It didn't bring the turd world workers up to first world standards, it lowered the American workers to turd world "standards."
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So that proves 165 million Americans can't afford an iPad. Even those who can afford a tablet, how many are iPads? Not the majority! Most are cheap less functional ones. Free Trade = the impoverishment of America. Bring back Fair Trade, as Trump wants to do, and he brings back America's good paying jobs. You can spout the Establishment lies about how wonderful Free Trade is, the reality is Free Trade = low paying jobs. It didn't bring the turd world workers up to first world standards, it lowered the American workers to turd world "standards."
how many good-paying manufacturing jobs do you estimate president Trump will bring back to america?
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how many good-paying manufacturing jobs do you estimate president Trump will bring back to america?
50 million.
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the reality is Free Trade = low paying jobs.
For those in USA, free trade means the tools we need to achieve come much cheaper.
We can learn skills on ipad while working on a laptop while watching a 55 inch televiison while hoverboarding to commercial gym and drinking organic smoothies on way home. the tools we need to succeed are all there.
The thought of millions of americans going into factories to make Nike shoes, ipads, and for Focuses... how much money an hour do you think they'll demand? aside form the import tax, think about how much more you have to pay a 40 year old man to "assemble iphones" all day, than what you're paying a 22 year old mexican laborer right now.
That ipad is gonna be $2000 if it's assembled here by american labor. Sorry, just the truth.
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50 million.
50 million new manufacturing jobs in the USA? Please explain. that number boggles my mind lol!
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50 million new manufacturing jobs in the USA? Please explain. that number boggles my mind lol!
I suspect lots of things boggle your mind.
Tariffs raise the cost of importing products into the country, so it will make sense then, to just make things here again.
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I suspect lots of things boggle your mind.
Tariffs raise the cost of importing products into the country, so it will make sense then, to just make things here again.
50 million new american manufacturing jobs. does ANYONE on getbig believe this to be possible? speak on it.
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50 million new american manufacturing jobs. does ANYONE on getbig believe this to be possible? speak on it.
I just did speak on it. Sure it is possible. Tariffs on imported goods will make it easily possible. Tariffs worked before for the American worker, and they will work again for them.
The American Establishment says otherwise, because Free Trade has allowed them to stuff their pockets at gigantic levels, at the expense of the American workers, whose new jobs will be protected by new tariffs.
Another reason that Trump will get union rank and file vote, and the black vote.
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I just did speak on it. Sure it is possible. Tariffs on imported goods will make it easily possible. Tariffs worked before for the American worker, and they will work again for them.
The American Establishment says otherwise, because Free Trade has allowed them to stuff their pockets at gigantic levels, at the expense of the American workers, whose new jobs will be protected by new tariffs.
Another reason that Trump will get union rank and file vote, and the black vote.
50 million american jobs in manufacturing? there are exactly 51 million people not working who aren't retired. That is a job for EVERY PERSON in america.
50 million. kick out 11 million illegals and you're already ten million short to fill the new jobs ;)
what will we be manufacturing to pay for 50 million workers? what is that, 50000 new plants?
50 million? seriously? I was ready to debate 5 million with you. Freaking 50? lol
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trump just went on tv and made a huge promise - 25 million new jobs. that's incredible and would essentially cure the nation of its economic woes.
yet you promise 50 million. amazing.
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50 million american jobs in manufacturing? there are exactly 51 million people not working who aren't retired. That is a job for EVERY PERSON in america.
50 million. kick out 11 million illegals and you're already ten million short to fill the new jobs ;)
what will we be manufacturing to pay for 50 million workers? what is that, 50000 new plants?
50 million? seriously? I was ready to debate 5 million with you. Freaking 50? lol
Just keep supporting the the Establishment lies, if you want. It won't ever be true. "We" employ more than 200 million people in China alone, that are doing jobs, for export to the USA, for China, that used to be done here in the USA. So 50 million new (old) jobs here, when tariffs are re-instituted, is no exaggeration.
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Just keep supporting the the Establishment lies, if you want. It won't ever be true. "We" employ more than 200 million people in China alone, that are doing jobs, for export to the USA, for China, that used to be done here in the USA. So 50 million new (old) jobs here, when tariffs are re-instituted, is no exaggeration.
50 million jobs. explain. you just doubled trump's lofty predictions, which many say may be a stretch.
nobody will stand for 2000$ ipads, even if means their neighbor has a good job. americans are already spending almost 100% of what they make. Reduce their buying power by 35% and we're in a never-ending depression as "50 million" people manufacture plastic stuff nobody can afford. The new black market would now be plastic spatulas and Xboxes.
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50 million jobs. explain. you just doubled trump's lofty predictions, which many say may be a stretch.
nobody will stand for 2000$ ipads, even if means their neighbor has a good job. americans are already spending almost 100% of what they make. Reduce their buying power by 35% and we're in a never-ending depression as "50 million" people manufacture plastic stuff nobody can afford. The new black market would now be plastic spatulas and Xboxes.
You are deluded, or stupid, doesn't matter which. Tariffs will increase workers incomes by at least 35%, by eliminating the unfair low wage competition from turd world countries. Those who want to work will be able to get a good paying job, without having the brains to write code for computer software, just as was possible, before that shit Bill Clinton signed NAFTA into law. That's what started the good paying job loss cycle in America.
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Trump would be the biggest lardass in the white house since William Taft
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I like his watch chain.
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Tariffs will increase workers incomes by at least 35%
How? that money goes directly to the govt. This will let trump pay for all his programs, including subsidizing child and elderly care for poor people.
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How? that money goes directly to the govt. This will let trump pay for all his programs, including subsidizing child and elderly care for poor people.
How fucking simple minded can you be? The Tariffs protect American Jobs. The government collects the tax on what is imported, but businessmen realize that then they can produce the products here instead, and cheaper by employing Americans, and create jobs for Americans. What is so difficult for you to understand about that?
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How fucking simple minded can you be? The Tariffs protect American Jobs. The government collects the tax on what is imported, but businessmen realize that then they can produce the products here instead, and cheaper by employing Americans, and create jobs for Americans. What is so difficult for you to understand about that?
Because I don't believe that it'll only cost 35% more to employ americans, than it is to employ a teenager in mexico or china.
Minimum wage in Mexico is $4.60 a day. Think on that. We're paying people 5-6 bucks a DAY to manufacture for US import. Add 35% to that, and you're STILL only looking at under ten bucks a day.
it's hard to get any american to step foot in a factory for ten an HOUR, much less a day. I think you're overlooking the 15 to 20x more we have to pay american workers.
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Because I don't believe
It doesn't matter what you believe. Tariffs protected American business and jobs before, and it will work again. "Free Trade" has impoverished the middle and working classes, and they know it, so they will vote for Trump, because Hillary is the same old establishment shit.
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It doesn't matter what you believe. Tariffs protected American business and jobs before, and it will work again. "Free Trade" has impoverished the middle and working classes, and they know it, so they will vote for Trump, because Hillary is the same old establishment shit.
how are we going to pay american workers 20x what mexican workers are being paid?
where does that money come from? Is dollar Tree going to charge $20 per item instead of $1 per item?
where does all this money magically come from? nobody can answer that. Who will open a factory in the USA, knowing they were barely breaking even while paying mex workers $4.60 a day.... when they realize they have to pay american workers $120 a day for that same work ethic? (and it's big assumption that americans on their iphones will work as hard as impoverished mexican laborers that really need that job and don't have a union)
it's gonna be worlds cheaper to just pay the "trump tax" or 35% and keep on importing it. Costs go up WAY MORE than 35% when you use USA labor.
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Here's everything Donald Trump just promised in his major speech on the economy
Donald Trump on Thursday shared his economic vision with supporters gathered at the Waldorf Astoria hotel in Manhattan, promising trillions in tax cuts, energy reform, a crackdown on trade, and a reduction in the number of tax brackets.
Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, estimated his plan would create 25 million in new jobs, and that the massive tax cut would be offset by gross domestic product growth of at least 3.5%, on average, each year for the next decade.
"This is the most pro-growth, pro-jobs, pro-family plan put forth perhaps in the history of our country," Trump said, according to the prepared remarks.
The New York businessman touted plans that he's championed in recent weeks, including the child care tax credit he said his daughter Ivanka worked on with him, and a reduction in the business tax rate from 35% to 15%. He said the latter would lead to "an explosion" of new jobs.
The Republican nominee also said he would put a moratorium on all new federal regulations, aside from ones "compelled by Congress or public safety," adding that he'd eliminate the Waters of the US Rule and the Environmental Protection Agency's Clean Power Plan.
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Here's everything Donald Trump just promised in his major speech on the economy
Donald Trump on Thursday shared his economic vision with supporters gathered at the Waldorf Astoria hotel in Manhattan, promising trillions in tax cuts, energy reform, a crackdown on trade, and a reduction in the number of tax brackets.
Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, estimated his plan would create 25 million in new jobs, and that the massive tax cut would be offset by gross domestic product growth of at least 3.5%, on average, each year for the next decade.
"This is the most pro-growth, pro-jobs, pro-family plan put forth perhaps in the history of our country," Trump said, according to the prepared remarks.
The New York businessman touted plans that he's championed in recent weeks, including the child care tax credit he said his daughter Ivanka worked on with him, and a reduction in the business tax rate from 35% to 15%. He said the latter would lead to "an explosion" of new jobs.
The Republican nominee also said he would put a moratorium on all new federal regulations, aside from ones "compelled by Congress or public safety," adding that he'd eliminate the Waters of the US Rule and the Environmental Protection Agency's Clean Power Plan.
All good stuff, and easily doable for a guy with real balls such as Donald Trump!
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All good stuff, and easily doable for a guy with real balls such as Donald Trump!
how will american firms pay workers 20x what they're currently paying mexican laborers?
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how will american firms pay workers 20x what they're currently paying mexican laborers?
The cost of the tariff, added to the extra cost of transportation, the extra cost of import paper work, and documentation, customs inspection, insurance costs, and the extra time cost involved, dwarf the turd world labor cost. The tariff tips the scale to make it here instead easily feasible.
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The cost of the tariff, added to the extra cost of transportation, the extra cost of import paper work, and documentation, customs inspection, insurance costs, and the extra time cost involved, dwarf the turd world labor cost. The tariff tips the scale to make it here instead easily feasible.
20x more. we need to pay them 20x more, to compensate for a 35% tax.
okay. this will never happen. congress will laugh him out of the building.
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20x more. we need to pay them 20x more, to compensate for a 35% tax.
okay. this will never happen. congress will laugh him out of the building.
Obviously, you suffer from mathophobia. The first objection business had to these free trade deals was the cost of transportation and all the import costs that I mentioned. The Globalist Free Traders pointed out that the low labor costs would make it work. It would be cheaper than manufacturing something in the USA. 35% tariff nixes the low cost labor advantage to free trade. So the overall cost of making something here, in the USA, will be the cheapest way to go.
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If there wasn't a monster financial advantage to moving production to outside of the USA, all of these firms wouldn't be doing it.
Apple will just take the fine and call it the Trump Tax. Enjoy it. Don't worry, welfare mothers get that money as a subsidy.
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Major 240 is Back meltdown.
What a f@g. Seriously, his obsession with iPhones and iPads is truly epic f@ggotry at it's peak.
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Major 240 is Back meltdown.
What a f@g. Seriously, his obsession with iPhones and iPads is truly epic f@ggotry at it's peak.
He literally just argues with himself all day on here.
NERVOUS WRECK
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trump is promising everything right now. grow the military while cutting taxes for everything while making childcare free, while building wall.
oh yes - and he promised to completely end the national debt of 21 trillion in his 8 years. THink about how illogical that is.
He's a dem promising everything to everyone. If he ends up president, it'll be daily democrat policy. Coach, as a clinton voter, you gonna love it.
Well they are a bunch of liars.
Essentially their job is to lie.
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Imagine being 2Fatty on Nov 9th after Trump is elected. He's gonna have to pay Shizzo to suck another dick just to get the heat off of himself.
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Imagine being 2Fatty on Nov 9th after Trump is elected.
imagine repubs on getbig celebrating their win in Septmber. We haven't seen that since 2012. or 2008.
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imagine repubs on getbig celebrating their win in Septmber. We haven't seen that since 2012. or 2008.
Glad to see you finally coming out, at least as a Democrat.
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Cmon, Shizzo has been waiting for the subsidy
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imagine repubs on getbig celebrating their win in Septmber. We haven't seen that since 2012. or 2008.
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240 IS CUCKED
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You can wake up now 240!!!