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If you were training for a marathon you would run everyday. You wouldn't use a machine: You wouldn't drive a car 26 miles and call it training for a marathon. That would obviously be absurd. The same applies to weightlifting. If you want to get huge amd strong you wouldn't use a Hammer Strength, Nautilus, Cybex or whatever. You would use free weights.
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because your muscles can tell the difference, they're not stupid
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because your muscles can tell the difference, they're not stupid
Foolish response
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Are you talking about weightlifting or bodybuilding?
For weightlifting, yes, free weights are obviously the way to go, because if you're going to be doing clean and jerks and snatches, you want to get good at those movements. And the only way to get good at something is to practice it.
For bodybuilding purposes, using compound movements and free weights adds a component of strength, but for size "aesthetics" machines are extremely beneficial. You can isolate muscle groups much better on a machine than with any free weight. Isolation gives more stimulus to smaller muscle groups which would not have been hit by compound free weight movements.
Your analogy of running vs driving a car for 26 miles is not only stupid but has nothing to do with anything. A better comparison would be running outdoors vs running on a treadmill. You still lift weight using a machine, just in a controlled manner, not unlike a treadmill for running. Running outside will make you better at .... running outside. Running on a treadmill will make you better at ..... running on a treadmill. So yes, if you're doing a race outdoors, then training for it outdoors is the way to go.
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If you were training for a marathon you would run everyday. You wouldn't use a machine: You wouldn't drive a car 26 miles and call it training for a marathon. That would obviously be absurd. The same applies to weightlifting. If you want to get huge amd strong you wouldn't use a Hammer Strength, Nautilus, Cybex or whatever. You would use free weights.
For a beginning bodybuilder you are correct deadlifts, squats and bench press are a must to build a base but after you have being working out for a few years and you have a strong foundation it does not matter you can use machines and you will be swole.
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Thread is full of supposed experts who refuse to post an up to date pic... ::)
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smh at people giving legit advice to a gimmick account
srsly?
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Are you talking about weightlifting or bodybuilding?
For weightlifting, yes, free weights are obviously the way to go, because if you're going to be doing clean and jerks and snatches, you want to get good at those movements. And the only way to get good at something is to practice it.
For bodybuilding purposes, using compound movements and free weights adds a component of strength, but for size "aesthetics" machines are extremely beneficial. You can isolate muscle groups much better on a machine than with any free weight. Isolation gives more stimulus to smaller muscle groups which would not have been hit by compound free weight movements.
Your analogy of running vs driving a car for 26 miles is not only stupid but has nothing to do with anything. A better comparison would be running outdoors vs running on a treadmill. You still lift weight using a machine, just in a controlled manner, not unlike a treadmill for running. Running outside will make you better at .... running outside. Running on a treadmill will make you better at ..... running on a treadmill. So yes, if you're doing a race outdoors, then training for it outdoors is the way to go.
I'm talking weightlifting, I'm talking powerlifting, I'm talking bodybuilding. Free weights are the way. Whenever I join a new gym and some twink in a polo shirt is trying to sell me on amenities and so-called weight machines, I say "Stop right there. Two questions and two questions only. Where's the squat racks and where's the flat bench?" Because those two pieces of equipment which make up 1% of the gym's equipment build the body that represents 1% of the gym population: huge, strong, and hard as a brick.
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I'm talking weightlifting, I'm talking powerlifting, I'm talking bodybuilding. Free weights are the way. Whenever I join a new gym and some twink in a polo shirt is trying to sell me on amenities and so-called weight machines, I say "Stop right there. Two questions and two questions only. Where's the squat racks and where's the flat bench?" Because those two pieces of equipment which make up 1% of the gym's equipment build the body that represents 1% of the gym population: huge, strong, and hard as a brick.
Whatever floats your boat, buddy.
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smh at people giving legit advice to a gimmick account
srsly?
A. I'm giving the advice
B. YOU'RE the gimmick. A long running, 17k post gimmick. Take a hike.
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I'm talking weightlifting, I'm talking powerlifting, I'm talking bodybuilding. Free weights are the way. Whenever I join a new gym and some twink in a polo shirt is trying to sell me on amenities and so-called weight machines, I say "Stop right there. Two questions and two questions only. Where's the squat racks and where's the flat bench?" Because those two pieces of equipment which make up 1% of the gym's equipment build the body that represents 1% of the gym population: huge, strong, and hard as a brick.
You must have something better to do today than this, no?
If not, re-examine your situation, and come up with a solution.
Then email that solution to ratherbebig, 8 inch not biceps, and nether animal.
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settledown, sugartits
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Whatever floats your boat, buddy.
Spoken like a true smaller man.
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Elastic bands are all anyone needs.
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http://journals.lww.com/nsca-jscr/Abstract/1994/11000/A_Comparison_of_Muscle_Activity_Between_a_Free.11.aspx
This study calculated IEMG values during the ascent and descent phases of the bench press and compared the values between lifts performed with free weights versus a guided weight machine. In Phase 1 of the study the l-RM on each mode was determined for each subject. In Phase 2, EMG data were collected from five muscles of the upper extremity while each subject completed five trials at 80% of 1-RM and five trials at 60% of 1-RM for each mode. Linear envelopes were created from the EMG data of each trial, and IEMG values were calculated during the descent and ascent phases of each trial. Planned comparisons were used to compare mean IEMG values between the two loads within the same mode, and between the two modes at both the 60% and 80% loads. Results suggested greater muscle activity during the free-weight bench press, especially at the 60% 1-RM load, although there were notable differences among the patterns of individual subject.
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http://journals.lww.com/nsca-jscr/Abstract/1994/11000/A_Comparison_of_Muscle_Activity_Between_a_Free.11.aspx
This study calculated IEMG values during the ascent and descent phases of the bench press and compared the values between lifts performed with free weights versus a guided weight machine. In Phase 1 of the study the l-RM on each mode was determined for each subject. In Phase 2, EMG data were collected from five muscles of the upper extremity while each subject completed five trials at 80% of 1-RM and five trials at 60% of 1-RM for each mode. Linear envelopes were created from the EMG data of each trial, and IEMG values were calculated during the descent and ascent phases of each trial. Planned comparisons were used to compare mean IEMG values between the two loads within the same mode, and between the two modes at both the 60% and 80% loads. Results suggested greater muscle activity during the free-weight bench press, especially at the 60% 1-RM load, although there were notable differences among the patterns of individual subject.
Thanks, but we don't need a needledick in a white lab coat telling us what we already know. What we need is more barbell squats, more flat bench presses and plenty of 'em.
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http://journals.lww.com/nsca-jscr/Abstract/1994/11000/A_Comparison_of_Muscle_Activity_Between_a_Free.11.aspx
This study calculated IEMG values during the ascent and descent phases of the bench press and compared the values between lifts performed with free weights versus a guided weight machine. In Phase 1 of the study the l-RM on each mode was determined for each subject. In Phase 2, EMG data were collected from five muscles of the upper extremity while each subject completed five trials at 80% of 1-RM and five trials at 60% of 1-RM for each mode. Linear envelopes were created from the EMG data of each trial, and IEMG values were calculated during the descent and ascent phases of each trial. Planned comparisons were used to compare mean IEMG values between the two loads within the same mode, and between the two modes at both the 60% and 80% loads. Results suggested greater muscle activity during the free-weight bench press, especially at the 60% 1-RM load, although there were notable differences among the patterns of individual subject.
was that the specific muscle group only or including the assisting muscles?
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it all depends on the atomic makeup of your muscles
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you depends on being atomic retrard. no club, no gain same old stuff everry day and all lies. go pay $ for for trip to unga bunga
it all depends on the atomic makeup of your muscles
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you depends on being atomic retrard. no club, no gain same old stuff everry day and all lies. go pay $ for for trip to unga bunga
kill yourself and die
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no! then cna not read your lies and call you for retard you are! no gains, no club, all lies same story on different day of week. you look same must be bad drugs. where is club? ha ha!
kill yourself and die
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Elastic bands are all anyone needs.
Bah humbug. Modern fancy business! All tha' needs is dynamic tension son...
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Bah humbug. Modern fancy business! All tha' needs is dynamic tension son...
(http://cartoonician.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/atlas-top-half.jpg)
Charles Atlas hawked his Dynamic Tension course after he built himself up with tons of squats, bench presses, rows, military presses, barbell curls tricep extensions and dead lifts. Made a fortune.
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big fag bench seems to have a solid life plan.
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Free weights work for compound movements like bench press and squat because the downward force of gravity can always be distributed across two or more joints to maintain tension throughout the entire range of motion. Even then, tension decreased to nothing at the top of the exercise, which still isn't optimal. Ideally, one should be able to squeeze at full contraction to create the optimal workload.
Free weights don't work as well as machines and cables for single joint exercises like curls, hamstring curls, tricep extensions, lateral raises, etc. because the force of gravity exerted on a joint changes throughout the movement, causing tension to applied unevenly and not at all at some points.
Think about doing a curl with your upper arms fixed against your side perpendicular to the ground. At the beginning of the movement, the weight is moving straight forward in front of you, and when your arms are 90 degrees the weight is moving straight up. When your biceps are fully stretched at the bottom of the movement, they are at their strongest, but they will be doing no work because of the lack of resistance against gravity. When your biceps are at a 90 degree, they are at their weakest, but this is when they are bearing the most weight from the exercise. This is the opposite of how the resistance profile should work. With a machine, a resistance profile can be created so that the biceps bear the same load throughout the exercise or a load that is greatest at full stretch and weakest at full contraction. The same applies for every muscle.
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Free weights work for compound movements like bench press and squat because the downward force of gravity can always be distributed across two or more joints to maintain tension throughout the entire range of motion. Even then, tension decreased to nothing at the top of the exercise, which still isn't optimal. Ideally, one should be able to squeeze at full contraction to create the optimal workload.
Free weights don't work as well as machines and cables for single joint exercises like curls, hamstring curls, tricep extensions, lateral raises, etc. because the force of gravity exerted on a joint changes throughout the movement, causing tension to applied unevenly and not at all at some points.
Think about doing a curl with your upper arms fixed against your side perpendicular to the ground. At the beginning of the movement, the weight is moving straight forward in front of you, and when your arms are 90 degrees the weight is moving straight up. When your biceps are fully stretched at the bottom of the movement, they are at their strongest, but they will be doing no work because of the lack of resistance against gravity. When your biceps are at a 90 degree, they are at their weakest, but this is when they are bearing the most weight from the exercise. This is the opposite of how the resistance profile should work. With a machine, a resistance profile can be created so that the biceps bear the same load throughout the exercise or a load that is greatest at full stretch and weakest at full contraction. The same applies for every muscle.
Hi Doug Brignole.
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Free weights work for compound movements like bench press and squat because the downward force of gravity can always be distributed across two or more joints to maintain tension throughout the entire range of motion. Even then, tension decreased to nothing at the top of the exercise, which still isn't optimal. Ideally, one should be able to squeeze at full contraction to create the optimal workload.
Free weights don't work as well as machines and cables for single joint exercises like curls, hamstring curls, tricep extensions, lateral raises, etc. because the force of gravity exerted on a joint changes throughout the movement, causing tension to applied unevenly and not at all at some points.
Think about doing a curl with your upper arms fixed against your side perpendicular to the ground. At the beginning of the movement, the weight is moving straight forward in front of you, and when your arms are 90 degrees the weight is moving straight up. When your biceps are fully stretched at the bottom of the movement, they are at their strongest, but they will be doing no work because of the lack of resistance against gravity. When your biceps are at a 90 degree, they are at their weakest, but this is when they are bearing the most weight from the exercise. This is the opposite of how the resistance profile should work. With a machine, a resistance profile can be created so that the biceps bear the same load throughout the exercise or a load that is greatest at full stretch and weakest at full contraction. The same applies for every muscle.
Arthur Jones sales pitch to sell his crappy machines.
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Mostly free weights are the best. however there are some really good hammers strength to use in conjunction with the free weights. I do some trI sets with both.
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Arthur Jones sales pitch to sell his crappy machines.
Crappy machines that guys like Arnold, Dorian, Kai, and many others used to build some of the craziest lats ever. Dorian swore by the thing, and he had a very good idea what worked and what didn't.
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Crappy machines that guys like Arnold, Dorian, Kai, and many others used to build some of the craziest lats ever. Dorian swore by the thing, and he had a very good idea what worked and what didn't.
Dorian swore by steroids and barbell rows. Wake up and smell the coffee.
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Crappy machines that guys like Arnold, Dorian, Kai, and many others used to build some of the craziest lats ever. Dorian swore by the thing, and he had a very good idea what worked and what didn't.
True, although arnold can suck it. The hammer strength can works muscle group very well. Same as the back squat mAchine and hip sled.
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This entire thread depends on the goal. Different modalities for different goals be it weightlifting, powerlifting or bodybuilding. Start there.
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Foolish response
Why? Because in the ears of the moron truth often sound foolish ;D
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We have a winner!
Claiming that running/jogging and driving a car is analogous to, say, the Bench Press and the Hammer Chest press is the stupidest post ever written on this board.
Congratulations!
BTW, have you ever posted a pic showing the results of your training modalities?
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I agree with this as I recently started all free weight again as my joints are feeling better and I've added a lot of size and strength in a short period.I know muscles on know stimulus but I get way better results from free weights.
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This entire thread depends on the goal. Different modalities for different goals be it weightlifting, powerlifting or bodybuilding. Start there.
Lifting is lifting.
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Why? Because in the ears of the moron truth often sound foolish ;D
No, because it was a foolish answer.
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We have a winner!
Claiming that running/jogging and driving a car is analogous to, say, the Bench Press and the Hammer Chest press is the stupidest post ever written on this board.
Congratulations!
BTW, have you ever posted a pic showing the results of your training modalities?
Oh, we have a tool here that interjects the word "say" in order to sound intelligent. Then comes the obligatory demand for the picture of another male. Lol.
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Lifting is lifting.
Not even remotely close...but if you say so.
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Not even remotely close...but if you say so.
Maybe you should stick to doing your best to approximate what you think you heard Rush Limbaugh say. And you can do that on the other forum. Okay "coach"?
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Maybe you should stick to doing your best to approximate what you think you heard Rush Limbaugh say. And you can do that on the other forum. Okay "coach"?
See, come on here trying to talk about training and get hit. Then people wonder why I'm an asshole on here. No one can carry civil conversation or debate so I might as well live up to my rep.
Look smart ass. Don't come on here as a gimmick spewing your training bullshit. For all we know you look like Rush Limbaugh. So unless you can produce a pic to back up your "big flat bench" stfu.
Btw, can't really remember the last time Rush was wrong...hope this helps. Clown
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See, come on here trying to talk about training and get hit. Then people wonder why I'm an asshole on here. No one can carry civil conversation or debate so I might as well live up to my rep.
Look smart ass. Don't come on here as a gimmick spewing your training bullshit. For all we know you look like Rush Limbaugh. So unless you can produce a pic to back up your "big flat bench" stfu.
Btw, can't really remember the last time Rush was wrong...hope this helps. Clown
Because you're foolish enough to post your personal info and pics on an internet forum doesn't concern me. Your strength training pseudo science gibberish also doesn't concern me. Now go into your bunker and weight for the end to come because Hillary Clinton will become president.
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Because you're foolish enough to post your personal info and pics on an internet forum doesn't concern me. Your strength training pseudo science gibberish also doesn't concern me. Now go into your bunker and weight for the end to come because Hillary Clinton will become president.
Regardless, you can't make an argument for your training. The only thing we get is "lifting is lifting" plus I have nothing to hide.
Feel free to post a pic. You can block your face out.
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Joe, don't even bother... he won't post a pic because he either 1. doesn't exist, or 2. is a fat turd.
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Joe, don't even bother... he won't post a pic because he either 1. doesn't exist, or 2. is a fat turd.
Agree
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Joe, don't even bother... he won't post a pic because he either 1. doesn't exist, or 2. is a fat turd.
Now comes the faux intimacy when the gimmick starts calling "The Coach" by the name "Joe", as if they are two decades long graying chums. "He's not worth it Joe. Think of your blood pressure."
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Joe, don't even bother... he won't post a pic because he either 1. doesn't exist, or 2. is a fat turd.
its both, its joon, who doesnt exist, hes a Darren Avey gimmick, and yep, hes fat.
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its both, its joon, who doesnt exist, hes a Darren Avey gimmick, and yep, hes fat.
How refreshing. The same old boring "it's Joon!" tripe coming from the one trick pony "Be There".
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How refreshing. The same old boring "it's Joon!" tripe coming from the one trick pony "Be There".
So, are you going to keep deflecting? You sure you want to stick with that strategy?
Now that your credibility is shot, making thread upon thread preaching Ironager training protocol seems like a waste of effort.
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How refreshing. The same old boring "it's Joon!" tripe coming from the one trick pony "Be There".
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So, are you going to keep deflecting? You sure you want to stick with that strategy?
Now that your credibility is shot, making thread upon thread preaching Ironager training protocol seems like a waste of effort.
Deflecting? Strategy? Lol. I've been very straightforward in my handling of yourself and other like minded gimmicks. Since I have no respect for you I think it's fair to say your opinion is a non factor in my participation on the forum.
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Deflecting? Strategy? Lol. I've been very straightforward in my handling of yourself and other like minded gimmicks. Since I have no respect for you I think it's fair to say your opinion is a non factor in my participation on the forum.
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Deflecting? Strategy? Lol. I've been very straightforward in my handling of yourself and other like minded gimmicks. Since I have no respect for you I think it's fair to say your opinion is a non factor in my participation on the forum.
If I'm a gimmick, what is my defining trait as a poster here? Just seeing if you even know anything at all.
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If I'm a gimmick, what is my defining trait as a poster here? Just seeing if you even know anything at all.
Lol...
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(https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/turned-upside-down-coffee-cup-9634807.jpg)
Boring, repetetive, same old from you. At least most of your contemporaries are having the good sense of leaving the forum. You should join them.
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Boring, repetetive, same old from you. At least most of your contemporaries are having the good sense of leaving the forum. You should join them.
and what would do then?
Who do you want on the forum, care to list your favourite posters.
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and what would do then?
Who do you want on the forum, care to list your favourite posters.
What purpose would that serve? To be blunt, I have no interest in continuing any dialogues with yourself or the other long running gimmicks.
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What purpose would that serve? To be blunt, I have no interest in continuing any dialogues with yourself or the other long running gimmicks.
Im not surprised, you dont want to draw too much attention to yourself, just use another account.
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Oh, we have a tool here that interjects the word "say" in order to sound intelligent. Then comes the obligatory demand for the picture of another male. Lol.
No, using the word "say" is to imply the example was random. I could have just as easily said, "say, the squat and the leg press. There is a correlation there. There is zero correlation between running and driving a car as it pertains to physical activity. You could have just as easily try to make a correlation between running and sitting in an Easy chair.
And, yes, if you are going to give advice and bash others who don't share your beliefs then you should provide an example as to the results you achieved and why we should listen to.
IRL you are just another typical perma bulker, i.e., fatso, that nobody
would want to look like. If you actually looked like a bber your pics would be all over this place. If you did post a recent pic now all credibility would be lost and you would be laughed off this board.
Flattered, though, that you consider the use of the word "say" as sounding intelligent. Such a high bar you set.
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Long live the Big Flat Gimmick...... :-X :-\ >:(
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If you can't use every tool in the toolbox you're a fuckin bum. If this were a job you'd be fired you dirtbag.
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No, using the word "say" is to imply the example was random. I could have just as easily said, "say, the squat and the leg press. There is a correlation there. There is zero correlation between running and driving a car as it pertains to physical activity. You could have just as easily try to make a correlation between running and sitting in an Easy chair.
And, yes, if you are going to give advice and bash others who don't share your beliefs then you should provide an example as to the results you achieved and why we should listen to.
IRL you are just another typical perma bulker, i.e., fatso, that nobody
would want to look like. If you actually looked like a bber your pics would be all over this place. If you did post a recent pic now all credibility would be lost and you would be laughed off this board.
Flattered, though, that you consider the use of the word "say" as sounding intelligent. Such a high bar you set.
Thank you for the dissertation on Logic. Unfortunately the more intelligent you try to sound to bolster your last episode of sounding like a jackass, the more of a jackass you sound like. And I took the liberty of viewing some of your pictures. I've seen better skin on an Iguana. Lol.
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Long live the Big Flat Gimmick...... :-X :-\ >:(
Go smoke another joint you clown.
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If you want to limit yourself to barbells and dumbbells because you think they're better, go ahead. Most of us happen to go to gyms with a plethora of machines that, in addition to free weight exercises, we use to train our muscles more exhaustively to build a complete physique. If you do indeed use only free weights, I'm just going to go out on a limb and guess that you have big overdeveloped front delts, glutes, and lower back with shitty lats, rear delts, and hamstrings and mediocre arms.
And yes, Dorian swore by the machine pullover to build his lats. The fact that you think barbell rows or and kind of rows are good lat exercises in the first place shows that you don't really understand the mechanics of weight training that allow weight training to tear down and build your muscles. Which is also why I'm guessing you have shitty lats.
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If you want to limit yourself to barbells and dumbbells because you think they're better, go ahead. Most of us happen to go to gyms with a plethora of machines that, in addition to free weight exercises, we use to train our muscles more exhaustively to build a complete physique. If you do indeed use only free weights, I'm just going to go out on a limb and guess that you have big overdeveloped front delts, glutes, and lower back with shitty lats, rear delts, and hamstrings and mediocre arms.
And yes, Dorian swore by the machine pullover to build his lats. The fact that you think barbell rows or and kind of rows are good lat exercises in the first place shows that you don't really understand the mechanics of weight training that allow weight training to tear down and build your muscles. Which is also why I'm guessing you have shitty lats.
do you have a photo of you holding an upside down cup?
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I do lots of cable rows and pulldowns. I can't do deadlifts because I have a (somewhat) bad back that gets aggravated when I do exercising that require me to stand up with heavy weight pulling me downward.
And look wow I posted a pic, guess I pulled this off of the internet somewhere
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=607938.0;attach=692249;image)
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I do lots of cable rows and pulldowns. I can't do deadlifts because I have a (somewhat) bad back that gets aggravated when I do exercising that require me to stand up with heavy weight pulling me downward.
And look wow I posted a pic, guess I pulled this off of the internet somewhere
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=607938.0;attach=692249;image)
post a pic of your trousers please, Im dying to see them properly
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Haha it is bathing suit shorts
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Thank you for the dissertation on Logic. Unfortunately the more intelligent you try to sound to bolster your last episode of sounding like a jackass, the more of a jackass you sound like. And I took the liberty of viewing some of your pictures. I've seen better skin on an Iguana. Lol.
Um, no. Maybe to you but you've demonstrated that you are simply not very bright. Everyone sees you for the moron that you are as well
as a fraud preaching theories that haven't worked for you.
But keep trying.
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No, because it was a foolish answer.
No, it was quite good answer, but as a moron, you didn't like it. Why I call you moron? Because it is obvious that you are one, because you don't know shit about lifting. Machines are as good as free weights, in some excercises even better because they force you lift ergonomically correct range of motion, and your muscles benefit from that. You can use heavier weights in the machines, for example, 1000 b squat vs 1000 lb leg presses or hack squat. If you use free weights and machines smartly, you benefit more than using just either one.
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You can build a complete physique with only barbells and dumbbells.
You can't with machines and cables.
I mainly use free-weights, but some machines and cables are useful in order to isolate certain muscles.
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You can build a complete physique with only barbells and dumbbells.
You can't with machines and cables.
I mainly use free-weights, but some machines and cables are useful in order to isolate certain muscles.
Why?
Especially given the fact that most IFBB pros today train more with machines than free weights.
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You can build a complete physique with only barbells and dumbbells.
You can't with machines and cables.
I mainly use free-weights, but some machines and cables are useful in order to isolate certain muscles.
amazing, a muscle now knows the difference between a free weight and a machine, please explain how this is the case.
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Um, no. Maybe to you but you've demonstrated that you are simply not very bright. Everyone sees you for the moron that you are as well
as a fraud preaching theories that haven't worked for you.
But keep trying.
The above post suffers from horrible grammar, incoherence and incorrect vocabulary choices. Structurally, the post is a disaster. I recall being taught how to form a paragraph on the 2nd Grade. The author also seems angry at life. Perhaps having a lizard for a father will do that.
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Please, go away.
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amazing, a muscle now knows the difference between a free weight and a machine, please explain how this is the case.
It's not the same. When using a free-weight, other muscles and tendons must also be used to stabilise the weight, while on a machine the weight follows a set path. For instance, benching a free weight will be harder than the same weight on a machine.
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I do lots of cable rows and pulldowns. I can't do deadlifts because I have a (somewhat) bad back that gets aggravated when I do exercising that require me to stand up with heavy weight pulling me downward.
And look wow I posted a pic, guess I pulled this off of the internet somewhere
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=607938.0;attach=692249;image)
Excellent hair genetics
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It's not the same. When using a free-weight, other muscles and tendons must also be used to stabilise the weight, while on a machine the weight follows a set path. For instance, benching a free weight will be harder than the same weight on a machine.
so what, stress the muscle with exercise and it will grow, call Phil Heath what you like, hes the smartest trainer out there, no balls to the wall workouts rupturing tendons and blowing discs, he will be relatively injury free and wont be wracked with pain when he finally hangs up his thong.
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Please, go away.
I think you should. You are evidently not well liked, and your gimmick has run dry.
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so what, stress the muscle with exercise and it will grow, call Phil Heath what you like, hes the smartest trainer out there, no balls to the wall workouts rupturing tendons and blowing discs, he will be relatively injury free and wont be wracked with pain when he finally hangs up his thong.
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This gimmick is in full swing here. Debating and arguing with anybody and everybody. A boring, unintelligent man.
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This gimmick is in full swing here. Debating and arguing with anybody and everybody. A boring, unintelligent man.
Gimmicks dont post pics, where you at son?
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If you were training for a marathon you would run everyday. You wouldn't use a machine: You wouldn't drive a car 26 miles and call it training for a marathon. That would obviously be absurd. The same applies to weightlifting. If you want to get huge amd strong you wouldn't use a Hammer Strength, Nautilus, Cybex or whatever. You would use free weights.
You should change your name toBig Flat Retarded !!! ;)
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Gimmicks dont post pics, where you at son?
Don't feel bad. Most people from the UK are too smart for their own good, looking for the negative in everything. The problem has compounded over the decades to the point where they don't accomplish much of anything in the world. In fact, the UK is on the verge of dissappearing into Islam. Good job.
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Don't feel bad. Most people from the UK are too smart for their own good, looking for the negative in everything. The problem has compounded over the decades to the point where they don't accomplish much of anything in the world. In fact, the UK is on the verge of dissappearing into Islam. Good job.
Im me, I don't associate myself with the failings of the UK government and its population.
Im successful and have a great physique, you on the other hand don't have anything, except you are a proud American.
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Im me, I don't associate myself with the failings of the UK government and its population.
Im successful and have a great physique, you on the other hand don't have anything, except you are a proud American.
Lol...you ARE it's population. And as far as you being "successful", that would be an impossibility. Successful people don't troll internet forums desperate to argue and debate what day it is.
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Lol...you ARE it's population. And as far as you being "successful", that would beban impossibility. Successful people don't troll internet forums desperate to argue and debate what day it is.
Population is by definition the entire inhabitants of a place, as i said, I am an individual and as such cannot be "population"
I am successful enough to be able to spend time fucking around on the internet as the rest of my life is in order.
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Population is by definition the entire inhabitants of a place, as i said, I am an individual and as such cannot be "population"
I am successful enough to be able to spend time fucking around on the internet as the rest of my life is in order.
Most people in your country have nothing but time on their hands. Beyond the material things though, you are a bitter angry man who needs propping up through drugs. The space between your ears must be hell. The other fellow most like yourself, Radical Plato, evidently succumbed to the misery.
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Most people in your country have nothing but time on their hands. Beyond the material things though, you are a bitter angry man who needs propping up through drugs. The space between your ears must be hell. The other fellow most like yourself, Radical Plato, evidently succumbed to the misery.
How low are you prepared to go to get a reaction?
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How low are you prepared to go to get a reaction?
Just an observation. You have have a very similar modus operandi as he did. Your self concept is very different than what others see.
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Just an observation. You have have a very similarmodus operandi as he did. Your self concept is very different than what others see.
\You have absolutely no idea about my personality, if we met without you having seen my pictures you would never guess it was me .
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\You have absolutely no idea about my personality, if we met without you having seen my pictures you would never guess it was me .
Your personality is negative, sarcastic and angry. You would be fairly easy to spot.
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Your personality is negative, sarcastic and angry. You would be fairly easy to spot.
hahaha, you still dont get it do you....
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Your personality is negative, sarcastic and angry. You would be fairly easy to spot.
cool guy in real life
dont take this shit too serious ;)
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Excellent hair genetics
Dago of peace. ;D
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The above post suffers from horrible grammar, incoherence and incorrect vocabulary choices. Structurally, the post is a disaster. I recall being taught how to form a paragraph on the 2nd Grade. The author also seems angry at life. Perhaps having a lizard for a father will do that.
You're Non Sequiturs and avoiding the question proves how desperate and even more pathetic you have become.
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You're Non Sequiturs and avoiding the question proves how desperate and even more pathetic you have become.
Any particular reason you chose to capitalize "non sequitur"? For someone who has already been called out for trying to appear intelligent, that kind of grave grammatical error just makes matter worse.
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Any particular reason you chose to capitalize "non sequitur"? For someone who has already been called out for trying to appear interlligent, that kind of grave grammatical error just makes matter worse.
lol.
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Kenpo Machine, I knew it!
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Done!
It took him 2 days to reply to this. Can one of you Internet gurus find out where he stole this picture from? This dude looks like he couldn't bench his bodyweight. "Big Flat Bench" Lol
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Plus the image file name "Summer'16" is an obvious attempt at trying to fool us. Pic looks like it was taken in 2005 with a digital camera.