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Title: Phil Heath - If he wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: NickEdge779 on October 24, 2016, 07:25:46 PM
Yes, I know he's pretty disliked, but it's hard to bring someone down who has the record for Olympia wins. Better than Ronnie Coleman, better than Lee Haney, better than Arnold, better than Dorian. That's IF he gets 9.
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Nether Animal on October 24, 2016, 07:36:02 PM
No, because his competition has always sucked.

Kai was a perennial runner-up due to his background. He was never a true threat for first.
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Wiggs on October 24, 2016, 07:48:16 PM
Fuck no. It's not deserved. He's not better than Ronnie or Haney.
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Royal Lion on October 24, 2016, 07:49:48 PM
Fuck no. It's not deserved. He's not better than Ronnie or Haney.
Or Yates or 09 Jay.
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Nether Animal on October 24, 2016, 07:52:44 PM
Or Yates or 09 Jay.

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Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: The Scott on October 24, 2016, 07:54:55 PM
Not from anyone that truly matters.
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Iceman1981 on October 24, 2016, 08:37:49 PM
Phil doesn't get respect now, but he will get the respect after he retires. It happens to all champions. Will breaking the record make him the best? No.
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: hench on October 25, 2016, 04:53:42 AM
Don't think phil will ever get respect, it's earned and he's just totally unlikeable. Plus apart from his arms his physique is shit
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on October 25, 2016, 05:08:16 AM
Nope... never.
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: ratherbebig on October 25, 2016, 05:16:03 AM
no because iris kyle has 10 wins.
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Azure on October 25, 2016, 05:35:25 AM
No.

I doubt he gets there just due to wear and tear. People don't like him and not just the fans. Also he looked terrible for at least 2 of those wins and people won't forget that. It wasn't just that he was off he did not look good.

Also I don't see him getting respect and being liked after he retires. He's not likeable
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Yamcha on October 25, 2016, 05:40:09 AM
Hope his body revolts rapidly
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: falco on October 25, 2016, 06:30:35 AM
No, never.
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Ronnie Rep on October 25, 2016, 06:48:05 AM
No, he will be remembered as one of, if not the least respected Mr.O's ever.
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Simple Simon on October 25, 2016, 07:35:47 AM
Phil doesn't get respect now, but he will get the respect after he retires. It happens to all champions. Will breaking the record make him the best? No.

Haney was always respected....
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 25, 2016, 08:06:21 AM
No matter the number of Sandows, he remains a complete asshole in the eyes of many
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: viking1 on October 25, 2016, 08:12:34 AM
No, he's a diva.
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Kwon on October 25, 2016, 08:16:28 AM
Yes, I know he's pretty disliked, but it's hard to bring someone down who has the record for Olympia wins. Better than Ronnie Coleman, better than Lee Haney, better than Arnold, better than Dorian. That's IF he gets 9.

No.

No respect for Bloofy, never.


Lots of respect for Arnold, Dorian, Ronnie, Cutler, Kevin Levrone though.

Even Roelly has more of my respect (due to the crowdpleasing drunken sailor-dance) than Pill Heath.
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: FREAKgeek on October 25, 2016, 08:19:10 AM
Arnold could've had more than 7 if he wanted to
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Iceman1981 on October 25, 2016, 10:36:58 AM
Haney was always respected....

Haney was respected by more people, but every champion has haters. It's the name of the game when you keep winning.
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Simple Simon on October 25, 2016, 10:43:00 AM
Haney was respected by more people, but every champion has haters. It's the name of the game when you keep winning.

Find me any documented accounts of people hating on Haney...
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Yamcha on October 25, 2016, 10:47:40 AM
Find me any documented accounts of people hating on Haney...

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Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Erik C on October 25, 2016, 11:03:49 AM
Heath is ugly! There was a time, a long time ago, that body builders wanted to look like Greek Gods. No more! Now they want to look like ugly shit "persons." Hearth should die, for the sake of humanity, not just body building. Ugly, is disgusting.
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: BB on October 25, 2016, 11:10:30 AM
No, because his competition has always sucked.


This. He's unlikable, plus there will always be the question of competition. "What competition did they face?" will be the question that a lot of these new guys face going forward.
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Howard on October 25, 2016, 11:19:12 AM
Yes, I know he's pretty disliked, but it's hard to bring someone down who has the record for Olympia wins. Better than Ronnie Coleman, better than Lee Haney, better than Arnold, better than Dorian. That's IF he gets 9.

Phil could win 10 OLympias, and be filmed getting blown by every top 10 pros' wife or gf and it wouldn't help.

People within bodybuilding have a fixed opinion of him and the current level of competition.
I think the current top pros are impressive, BUT, perception is 90% of ones' reality.
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 25, 2016, 12:24:21 PM
No, he's a Gucci diva.

Fixed
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Iceman1981 on October 25, 2016, 01:13:01 PM
Find me any documented accounts of people hating on Haney...

Doesn't matter to me, but everyone has haters no matter how much of a "good guy" you are. You're acting like 100% of people liked Haney. It's not possible lol.
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: nufc0101 on October 25, 2016, 01:39:19 PM
Phil doesn't get respect now, but he will get the respect after he retires. It happens to all champions. Will breaking the record make him the best? No.

Using the same qoute as some already have, but, by all accounts Phil Heath is a cry baby/over rated/poor body structure for a mr o/wife leaving shitehouse of a champion who will not be remembered.

Cheers!
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Simple Simon on October 25, 2016, 01:40:36 PM
Doesn't matter to me, but everyone has haters no matter how much of a "good guy" you are. You're acting like 100% of people liked Haney. It's not possible lol.

So you cant find a single word of anyone hating Haney so that means you have proof he had haters.

nice logic...
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 25, 2016, 02:26:58 PM
The term 'haters' is so overrated..
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Howard on October 25, 2016, 03:03:58 PM
The term 'haters' is so overrated..

I hate it...
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Voice of Doom on October 25, 2016, 03:50:11 PM
No.  with the end of the world coming no one in the future will care about the Mr Olympia winners outside Arnold.
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: TheShape. on October 25, 2016, 04:02:03 PM
Samir is 100x better and only has one Olympia title. Phil could have 20 and he still would not get my respect.
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: The Scott on October 25, 2016, 07:41:27 PM
He's a Grand Funk Railroad song in reverse. 
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Schnauzer on October 25, 2016, 07:44:53 PM
#PhilDoesn'tMatter
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: AbrahamG on October 25, 2016, 09:11:49 PM
Samir is 100x better and only has one Olympia title. Phil could have 20 and he still would not get my respect.

This is utter nonsense.  Phil should actually have 7 already.  He wiped his ass with Jay in 2010.
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Danimal77 on October 25, 2016, 10:18:27 PM
Yes, I know he's pretty disliked, but it's hard to bring someone down who has the record for Olympia wins. Better than Ronnie Coleman, better than Lee Haney, better than Arnold, better than Dorian. That's IF he gets 9.

He's only winning because of the shitty competition. This has been the problem since the early 2000's. Dump him in the Yates/Haney/Coleman/Ray/Cormier/Cottrell/Dillet/Labrada/Wheeler/Fux/Priest/Ruhl/Burke/Schlierkamp/Clairmonte/Francois/Baker/Taylor/Munzer/Schmidt/El Sonbaty/Levrone (Prime) era and he would NOT be smashing any records, guaranteed.
Title: Re: If Phil Heath Wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Griffith on October 26, 2016, 05:16:43 AM
He's only winning because of the shitty competition. This has been the problem since the early 2000's. Dump him in the Yates/Haney/Coleman/Ray/Cormier/Cottrell/Dillet/Labrada/Wheeler/Fux/Priest/Ruhl/Burke/Schlierkamp/Clairmonte/Francois/Baker/Taylor/Munzer/Schmidt/El Sonbaty/Levrone (Prime) era and he would NOT be smashing any records, guaranteed.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - If he wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: 10pints on October 26, 2016, 01:59:50 PM
I respect the fact that he is stinking little manlet, who looks like hammered, smelted dog shit.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - If he wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Skeletor on October 26, 2016, 02:27:36 PM
He will not get respect and he does not deserve it. He is the representative of generation nothingness. Shitty work ethic, drama queen, huge ego and sense of entitlement, obsessed with social media. Only the arms stand out but the level of competition is low.

(http://i66.tinypic.com/2s8h99i.jpg)

This posts sums it up perfectly:

Phil is a real winner

Used his wife's cancer to further his career then dumped her
Abandoned his step son
Harassed and threatened and lied about a gym receptionist
Insulted police officers then deleted his insults
Photo shops his pics
Steps over the line on stage
Talks on his phone and texts takes selfies in workouts
Has his mom defend him online
Is proud about thinking he's the only bodybuilder with trading cards when it's been done before him
Looks diabetic
Talks to hammer strength incline press machines
Mangy bald spots on head
Narrow shoulders
Bird chest
Overdeveloped arms
Failed supplement company owner
Effeminate voice
Has done nothing to further bodybuilding
Lives in a shit hole
Hated by fans worldwide
No one goes to his after party
Not respected by other bodybuilder
A piece of fucking shit
Title: Re: Phil Heath - If he wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: nerdoldnerdith on October 26, 2016, 06:39:25 PM
Nine Olympia wins won't make his clavicles any wider.

Having more Olympia wins does not make one "better." If you think Lee Haney or Ronnie Coleman are better than Arnold because he has one more Sandow, you're smoking some crazy back-alley doobs. Remember, Arnold only has seven because he chose to retire and move on to bigger things. '76-'79 were his is he chose to compete, and so were '81-'83 for that matter. So that's 14 he could have won easily without the slightest hint of real competition. Reasonably, he could have kept going and beaten Lee Haney until the gut monsters showed up in the 90's and judges replaced by schmoes, so it's fair to say that he would have had 20+ Sandows if he were into that. Winning a bodybuilding show twenty times just makes someone a D-list celebrity only known really by people in the subculture, just like any other Mr. Olympia today. He chose (reasonably) to move on from bodybuilding contests and become one of the most famous people alive, but rest assured, his GOAT status in bodybuilding is pretty much untouchable. If he had won those Sandows, I doubt very many people today would even know who he is, and bodybuilding would already be dead by now, or just extremely obscure like women's bodybuilding. If Phil wins 10 or 15, his decision to keep dedicating his life a thong show well after he already made his point instead of leveraging his celebrity to achieve real greatness will reflect poorly on him.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - If he wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Simple Simon on October 26, 2016, 10:13:46 PM
Nine Olympia wins won't make his clavicles any wider.

Having more Olympia wins does not make one "better." If you think Lee Haney or Ronnie Coleman are better than Arnold because he has one more Sandow, you're smoking some crazy back-alley doobs. Remember, Arnold only has seven because he chose to retire and move on to bigger things. '76-'79 were his is he chose to compete, and so were '81-'83 for that matter. So that's 14 he could have won easily without the slightest hint of real competition. Reasonably, he could have kept going and beaten Lee Haney until the gut monsters showed up in the 90's and judges replaced by schmoes, so it's fair to say that he would have had 20+ Sandows if he were into that. Winning a bodybuilding show twenty times just makes someone a D-list celebrity only known really by people in the subculture, just like any other Mr. Olympia today. He chose (reasonably) to move on from bodybuilding contests and become one of the most famous people alive, but rest assured, his GOAT status in bodybuilding is pretty much untouchable. If he had won those Sandows, I doubt very many people today would even know who he is, and bodybuilding would already be dead by now, or just extremely obscure like women's bodybuilding. If Phil wins 10 or 15, his decision to keep dedicating his life a thong show well after he already made his point instead of leveraging his celebrity to achieve real greatness will reflect poorly on him.

Arnold didnt haver any competition in most of his wins...
Title: Re: Phil Heath - If he wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: hench on October 27, 2016, 03:02:02 AM
Good post, you're right, no one bettered or equalled his peak physique in those years after.
Phil just doest have the physique or the aura of a champion to ever garner that respect.


Nine Olympia wins won't make his clavicles any wider.

Having more Olympia wins does not make one "better." If you think Lee Haney or Ronnie Coleman are better than Arnold because he has one more Sandow, you're smoking some crazy back-alley doobs. Remember, Arnold only has seven because he chose to retire and move on to bigger things. '76-'79 were his is he chose to compete, and so were '81-'83 for that matter. So that's 14 he could have won easily without the slightest hint of real competition. Reasonably, he could have kept going and beaten Lee Haney until the gut monsters showed up in the 90's and judges replaced by schmoes, so it's fair to say that he would have had 20+ Sandows if he were into that. Winning a bodybuilding show twenty times just makes someone a D-list celebrity only known really by people in the subculture, just like any other Mr. Olympia today. He chose (reasonably) to move on from bodybuilding contests and become one of the most famous people alive, but rest assured, his GOAT status in bodybuilding is pretty much untouchable. If he had won those Sandows, I doubt very many people today would even know who he is, and bodybuilding would already be dead by now, or just extremely obscure like women's bodybuilding. If Phil wins 10 or 15, his decision to keep dedicating his life a thong show well after he already made his point instead of leveraging his celebrity to achieve real greatness will reflect poorly on him.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - If he wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Hypo on October 27, 2016, 03:48:58 AM
Arnold didnt haver any competition in most of his wins...

Neither does Cheath.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - If he wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Simple Simon on October 27, 2016, 04:54:05 AM
Neither does Cheath.

 I meant literally...in pumping Iron it was Serge and lou.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - If he wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: FREAKgeek on October 27, 2016, 06:03:21 AM
Arnold didnt haver any competition in most of his wins...

They knew to sit out.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - If he wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: chokeslam on October 27, 2016, 10:52:24 AM
No. Fuck him. Bodybuilding is also dead, so there's that.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - If he wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Howard on October 27, 2016, 11:02:21 AM
I've seen and heard rumors that he lives in a "shit hole"????
Is that really true?
Title: Re: Phil Heath - If he wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Simple Simon on October 27, 2016, 11:50:39 AM
I've seen and heard rumors that he lives in a "shit hole"????
Is that really true?

Jim Manions....
Title: Re: Phil Heath - If he wins 9 Olympias, Will He Get Proper Respect?
Post by: Macrofitter on October 27, 2016, 01:31:35 PM
"Haterz can kiss my ass..." 8)

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