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Prime-Tyson was a beast
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just boxing = he would lose
boxing with chuck liddell type take down defense = pretty good chance
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Look what happened to James Toney (another Boxer), that had no takedown-defence whatsoever.
Just take him down and submit.
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Look what happened to James Toney (another Boxer), that had no takedown-defence whatsoever.
Just take him down and submit.
james toney was shot, wasn't a puncher or an explosive phenom like tyson. Plus he was a blown up middleweight manlet.
Tyson, Lewis, Bowe etc would make mincemeat of the ufc heavyweight division.
Plus haye, holyfield and other smaller heavyweights would clean out the ufc 205 division.
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james toney was shot, wasn't a puncher or an explosive phenom like tyson. Plus he was a blown up middleweight manlet.
Tyson, Lewis, Bowe etc would make mincemeat of the ufc heavyweight division.
Plus haye, holyfield and other smaller heavyweights would clean out the ufc 205 division.
If they only relied on their boxing they would be taken down and submitted.
Only Boxing is not enough.
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Look what happened to James Toney (another Boxer), that had no takedown-defence whatsoever.
Just take him down and submit.
We are talking a 38 year old James Toney who was already wrecked. To conclude that boxers will suck at MMA is a bit of a stretch don't you think.
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We are talking a 38 year old James Toney who was already wrecked. To conclude that boxers will suck at MMA is a bit of a stretch don't you think.
If the Boer only relied on their boxing they would be taken down and submitted.
Only Boxing is not enough when your opponent can kick and take you down and grapple.
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If they only relied on their boxing they would be taken down and submitted.
Only Boxing is not enough.
Yes that's what I would do as well.
If I was fighting Tyson, I would just get in striking distance and easily take him down.
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Look what happened to James Toney (another Boxer), that had no takedown-defence whatsoever.
Just take him down and submit.
Or you could look at Ray Mercer who KO'd Tim Sylvia...there is always a punchers chance. That said of course he would need to train outside of boxing to be effective.
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He doesn't have the chin to take a solid blow. A Vitor Belfort in his prime would clock him and put him on his ass fairly quickly.
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tyson would have to learn take down and submission defence , granted no one hits like him , in the ufc
but he would be taken down very easily and pounded out with no wrestling or submission defence, dont live in fantasy land.
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tyson would have to learn take down and submission defence , granted no one hits like him , in the ufc
but he would be taken down very easily and pounded out with no wrestling or submission defence, dont live in fantasy land.
Ever see a Tyson uppercut?
You going to shoot for the legs with Mike Tyson wearing 4 ounce MMA gloves?
Good luck with that
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Ever see a Tyson uppercut?
You going to shoot for the legs with Mike Tyson wearing 4 ounce MMA gloves?
Good luck with that
walter of course i did ive been watching boxing for over 30 years , just because he was a great puncher does not translate that he will be a great mma fighter.
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walter of course i did ive been watching boxing for over 30 years , just because he was a great puncher does not translate that he will be a great mma fighter.
Okay, then you know enough that one or two bodyshots from Tyson wearing MMA gloves would TKO almost anyone.
A prime Tyson was a devastatingly accurate punched with excellent defense.
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i dont think an uppercut is that meaningful in ufc. i cant remember anybody ever been knocked by a uppercut in mma from the top of my head.
plus there's other ways to get someone to the ground.
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how many times are you going to start this fucking thread?
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Ok. Tyson, in his book Undisputed, says he couldn't do MMA.
From those old heavyweights I'd still say that Tyson would be most adapt to transfer.
D'amato trained him as good as he new and still, right after he passed, Tyson reverted back to being more of a fighter than boxer.
Maybe Ronda could fight Tyson?
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how many times are you going to start this fucking thread?
Fuck I thought I was taking crazy pills reading all the responses and I was the only one thinking this
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Everyone knows the answer to OPs question. The real question is if David Tua would have had a chance against Tyson. I think he would've. Shame they never fought.
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also , benard hopkins said it would be harder to throw ko punches in mma, because your constantly have to defend getting taken down and not being able to plant your feet
to throw punches your used to throwing
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Tyson would have to learn some basic takedown defense. Toney is nowhere near a good comparison to Tyson, as he is a totally different style of fighter and far smaller naturally. Tyson with 4oz gloves doesn't even have to connect squarely, he would KO guys with glancing blows in the UFC.
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how many times are you going to start this fucking thread?
Seriously. Can't cure stupid.
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In the early UFC he would gave accumulated some KO highlights, but would have lost against some smart wrestlers and BJJ.
any boxer beyond UFC early days, loses easily. A black BJJ is simply gona stand outside the reach and go for a take down when the moment is right and boxers have zero chance of getting out of it and get submitted or ground n pounded.
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In the early UFC he would gave accumulated some KO highlights, but would have lost against some smart wrestlers and BJJ.
any boxer beyond UFC early days, loses easily. A black BJJ is simply gona stand outside the reach and go for a take down when the moment is right and boxers have zero chance of getting out of it and get submitted or ground n pounded.
exactly skorpo many alot of morons on here who know nothing about fighting do not realize how hard it is to stop a world class wrestler from taking you down.
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Would Tyson be allowed to use firearms or would have to rely on non explosive weapons?
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There is grappling in boxing when they clinch. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't boxed before. How many fighters left UFC to go on to make real pay days in boxing? Who makes more money - UFC guy or boxer?
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"Darren Avey" posts this thread every few months... It's the only thing on his mind.
He is obssessed with hypothetical shit from 30 years ago
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"Darren Avey" posts this thread every few months... It's the only thing on his mind.
He is obssessed with hypothetical shit from 30 years ago
hes a real person who is also a gimmick
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"Darren Avey" posts this thread every few months... It's the only thing on his mind.
He is obssessed with hypothetical shit from 30 years ago
at least it is just one thread every few months
compare that to every thread about past mr olympias who really deserved to win etc etc
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hes a real person who is also a gimmick
Its a funny gimmick you must admit. Original if nothing else
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Its a funny gimmick you must admit. Original if nothing else
never made me laugh...
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He fought at 212/218 or so... That's about cro cop or wanderleis weight when they fought each other.. In Glory or whatever he might gave a chance
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If the Boer only relied on their boxing they would be taken down and submitted.
Only Boxing is not enough when your opponent can kick and take you down and grapple.
So if I'm understanding correctly, what you're saying is boxing isn't enough
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Here's Mike Tyson 24 years old and undefeated right before the Buster D fight sparring. Knocked down(with head gear) by a simple right cross...
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james toney was shot, wasn't a puncher or an explosive phenom like tyson. Plus he was a blown up middleweight manlet.
Tyson, Lewis, Bowe etc would make mincemeat of the ufc heavyweight division.
Plus haye, holyfield and other smaller heavyweights would clean out the ufc 205 division.
Mike Tyson has been listed at 5'9 1/2, at most 5'10, that's similar to James Toney.
His lower centre of gravity gave him an advantage over other heayweights, especially with his style.
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Reason Tyson never entered the UFC (or any MMA-competition) is because people are jealous of Halo.
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Lets see.The HW division he wouldn't stand a chance against Cain for starters, lets not get started on mos of the other top guys. If Overeem threw a body kick, how does Mike get through that with his short reach?
Styles makes fights, even more so in MMA, and im sorry, even as a Tyson fan, he would lose against a lot of the top guys if he just boxed.
PS That sparring footage in Japan, Tyson looks terrible. No wonder he lost against Buster :-\
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Reason Tyson never entered the UFC (or any MMA-competition) is because people are jealous of Halo.
;D keep them coming...
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Tyson was 19 yo in that vid. Nineteen.
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prime tyson with black belt in BJJ that would be interesting to watch in the cage.
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prime tyson with black belt in BJJ that would be interesting to watch in the cage.
Yes, coupled with a Black Belt in tapout, affliction and a brown belt in Bellator and UFC as well!
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Yes, coupled with a Black Belt in tapout, affliction and a brown belt in Bellator and UFC as well!
you sound dumb... what i meant was tyson was a top all time boxer and if he had grappling skills he could have made it in the MMA arena.
Prime Tyson in the current UFC will get raped by pretty much all top 5 guys.
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Lets see.The HW division he wouldn't stand a chance against Cain for starters, lets not get started on mos of the other top guys. If Overeem threw a body kick, how does Mike get through that with his short reach?
Styles makes fights, even more so in MMA, and im sorry, even as a Tyson fan, he would lose against a lot of the top guys if he just boxed.
PS That sparring footage in Japan, Tyson looks terrible. No wonder he lost against Buster :-\
Drugs, not caring, having yes men all around you, forgetting to use your jab, forgetting that head movement made you great, etc. will do that to Tyson.
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As soon as he lands on his back he gets a terrified look on his face and quickly taps...Seen it before with boxers...Remember the early days of cage fighting?
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As soon as he lands on his back he gets a terrified look on his face and quickly taps...Seen it before with boxers...Remember the early days of cage fighting?
What if he doesnt tap? He either fights or dies....
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What if he doesnt tap? He either fights or dies....
John Mcarthey will go diving in elbowing the other guy off, its his way of looking like a fighter without fighting...
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John Mcarthey will go diving in elbowing the other guy off, its his way of looking like a fighter without fighting...
What if big John catches a quick haymaker and is out?
We need to examine every possible scenario here, if we really want to find out how iron mike would survive in DA CAGE!!!
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What if big John catches a quick haymaker and is out?
We need to examine every possible scenario here, if we really want to find out how iron mike would survive in DA CAGE!!!
one of the ring girls will come in and.....the two cage fags will keep their heads buried in each others crotches "pretending" its wrestling and ignore her completely
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one of the ring girls will come in and.....the two cage fags will keep their heads buried in each others crotches "pretending" its wrestling and ignore her completely
Lol
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you sound dumb... what i meant was tyson was a top all time boxer and if he had grappling skills he could have made it in the MMA arena.
Prime Tyson in the current UFC will get raped by pretty guys.
Yes, and what i meant was that coupled with a black belt in Tapout, Affliction as well as assorted belts in Bellator and UFC, he'd go places in MMA.
You need to be a complete fighter these days, not just focusing on a single art.
Excel in one, sure, but you also need all-round skills, that's where the Tapout, Affliction, Bellator and UFC-belts come into play.
With so many belts you'd never get raped by pretty top guys, since you'd never lose your pants.
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one of the ring girls will come in and.....the two cage fags will keep their heads buried in each others crotches "pretending" its wrestling and ignore her completely
those cage fags can finish you in 10 seconds if you run your mouth around them. mma training/competing is though shit.. show some respect.
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Yes, and what i meant was that coupled with a black belt in Tapout, Affliction as well as assorted belts in Bellator and UFC, he'd go places in MMA.
You need to be a complete fighter these days, not just focusing on a single art.
Excel in one, sure, but you also need all-round skills, that's where the Tapout, Affliction, Bellator and UFC-belts come into play.
With so many belts you'd never get raped by pretty top guys, since you'd never lose your pants.
focus on fat asses son. dont know where the fuck you are going with the above rant.