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FULL White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer RIPS Media on False Reporting POTUS Trump Inauguration
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His message was solid, although they should've picked a better messenger. He was angry and it made him come off as ill prepared. He crumbled under the moment.
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I'm not loving this guy so far but I do love that this administration seems motivated to not let the press spread a bunch of bullshit around.
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I think he was just a little nervous and pissed at the same time. Hopefully he'll get used to it. He got the point across.
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I'm not loving this guy so far but I do love that this administration seems motivated to not let the press spread a bunch of bullshit around.
He had no facts.....and his argument was based on anger and wishful thinking
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He had no facts.....and his argument was based on anger and wishful thinking
They didn't say that the bust was gone?
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Amazing. A great tfirst shot to set the tone for the next 8 years. No more relenting to the media to filter and alter and twist the message. The narrative is not theirs to set. Too many other avenues of communication. Spicer was a tad rough but let them know what's up. He's spot on about the crowd stuff. Under past Republican admins they would have curled up and stammered and relented and let CNN eat them alive.
No more. They are actually going to fight.
Glorious!
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This press secretary fella is supposedly well respected by all of the media--left, right and center; a 20 year career vet in the DC political circle. Even some liberal pro Obama black lawyer on CNN was gushing over him prior to deploying measured criticisms against a related Trump last night.
Ari Fleisher, Bush's press guy, can forward yesterday, and said this statement was a prepared for an "audience of one".
Guess who?
And it's just day one.
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He had no facts.....and his argument was based on anger and wishful thinking
Wrong again. You have no credibility.
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Wrong again. You have no credibility.
Jesus you really need to do some research man. This has been debunked from A-Z. You are embarrassing yourself at this point.
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He had no facts.....and his argument was based on anger and wishful thinking
In your opinion.
It is ironic that CNN being complicit with the Dem Party in fake news, skewed election polls, and outright false reporting of voter trends aren't being blamed by the Dems for their low voter turnout?
Think of how many Lil Waynes and Shaniquas stayed home on Election Day because "dey got dis".
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In your opinion.
It is ironic that CNN being complicit with the Dem Party in fake news, skewed election polls, and outright false reporting of voter trends aren't being blamed by the Dems for their low voter turnout?
Think of how many Lil Waynes and Shaniquas stayed home on Election Day because "dey got dis".
The photos the "press" was passing about were photos from earlier in the day. Apparently the place was nice and filled up before the main event kicked off. Photos from overflow areas are floating about on Twitter etc. CNN has a cool Gigapixel interactive image that proves that, but it doesn't show the whole crowd with some obstructed by foliage and such.
New sheriff in town, nice to see this admin isn't going to roll over and let the anti-American leftist flunkies set the table.
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The photos the "press" was passing about were photos from earlier in the day. Apparently the place was nice and filled up before the main event kicked off. Photos from overflow areas are floating about on Twitter etc. CNN has a cool Gigapixel interactive image that proves that, but it doesn't show the whole crowd with some obstructed by foliage and such.
New sheriff in town, nice to see this admin isn't going to roll over and let the anti-American leftist flunkies set the table.
Can you prove CNN was lying? Are there photos to the contrary? I'm serious. Because I watched their stuff last night and they put out a very compelling piece using photos that weren't theirs; it was from different sources (getty, transit authority, secret service, etc)....
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Looks like the Trump Crime Family has a new slogan
Anytime they tell a blatant and provable lie they are just giving us "alternative facts"
My favorite line in this is when Conway told Chuck Todd that it was not his job "to call things ridiculous that are said by our press secretary and our president"
Hey you dumb kunt - that is exactly his job and the job of all of the free press
This is the United States of America and not Russia or North Korea
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/22/politics/kellyanne-conway-alternative-facts/index.html
Washington (CNN)White House press secretary Sean Spicer's false claims about the size of the crowd at President Donald Trump's inauguration were "alternative facts," a top Trump aide said Sunday.
In an interview on NBC's "Meet the Press," host Chuck Todd pressed Trump senior adviser Kellyanne Conway about why the White House on Saturday had sent Spicer to the briefing podium for the first time to claim that "this was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, period."
"You're saying it's a falsehood. And they're giving -- Sean Spicer, our press secretary -- gave alternative facts," she said.
Todd responded: "Alternative facts aren't facts, they are falsehoods."
Conway then tried to pivot to policy points. But later in the interview, Todd pressed Conway again on why the White House sent Spicer out to make false claims about crowd size, asking: "What was the motive to have this ridiculous litigation of crowd size?" "Your job is not to call things ridiculous that are said by our press secretary and our president. That's not your job," Conway said. Todd followed up: "Can you please answer the question? Why did he do this? You have not answered it -- it's only one question."
Conway said: "I'll answer it this way: Think about what you just said to your viewers. That's why we feel compelled to go out and clear the air and put alternative facts out there."
Trump himself directed Spicer to go to the White House briefing room to talk about the inauguration crowd size, Conway told CNN's Athena Jones on Sunday.
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Still posting and quoting stories from CNN? lol
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This is the United States of America and not Russia or North Korea
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Hey asshat, mind your own country.
When was the last time you watched press questioning Russian politicians?
When was the last time you understood what they were talking about?
Exactly. You didn't. It's not Russia's fault if you are ignorant little fuck. The press conferences and briefings are there publicly accessible. Unless US government limits your access to Russian media.
Russia lets even American journos into Putin's press conferences. USA doesn't allow Russian journos in white house.
If you don't know what you're talking about just stuff your thumb to your anus next time you feel like writing something out of your ass.
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Still posting and quoting stories from CNN? lol
are you still a retarded midget and phony coach who claims profound ignorance as a badge of pride?
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You only appear on top of "press freedom" ratings because you own the companies doing the ratings LOL
But this is slowly changing. People don't believe the BS anymore. Hence the panic within your regime.
You remember how they cried in their report about Russian media broadcasting debate of two smaller presidential hopefuls? Panic mode.
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Hey asshat, mind your own country.
When was the last time you watched press questioning Russian politicians?
When was the last time you understood what they were talking about?
Exactly. You didn't.
Russia lets even American journos into Putin's press conferences. USA doesn't allow Russian journos in white house.
If you don't know what you're talking about just stuff your thumb to your anus next time you feel like writing something out of your ass.
It's hilarious that you think Russia is some kind of bastion of free press and free speech
Are you referring to Putin's annual press conference that are choreographed to Putin specific requirements and reported through Russia government owned news agency
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Looks like the Trump Crime Family has a new slogan
Anytime they tell a blatant and provable lie they are just giving us "alternative facts"
My favorite line in this is when Conway told Chuck Todd that it was not his job "to call things ridiculous that are said by our press secretary and our president"
Hey you dumb kunt - that is exactly his job and the job of all of the free press
This is the United States of America and not Russia or North Korea
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/22/politics/kellyanne-conway-alternative-facts/index.html
Do you mean like how Democrats "walk back their comments" or "misremembers" things?
The mainstream media has become a joke, just like the liberals it shills for.
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It's hilarious that you think Russia is some kind of bastion of free press and free speech
Are you referring to Putin's annual press conference that are choreographed to Putin specific requirements and reported through Russia government owned news agency
No, I'm referring to hundreds of other press conferences and briefings by multiple officials.
Putin is asked much tougher questions than any US president.
Let's see US president coming on air in Russian media answering question from Russian journo "what really happened 9/11".
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Do you mean like how Democrats "walk back their comments" or "misremembers" things?
The mainstream media has become a joke, just like the liberals it shills for.
feel free to post examples and we'll see how they compare to the spokesperson for the POTUS being directed by the POTUS to lie about something which in this case (so far) is solely to prop up his profoundly fragile ego
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No, I'm referring to hundreds of other press conferences and briefings by multiple officials.
Putin is asked much tougher questions than any US president.
Let's see US president coming on air in Russian media answering question from Russian journo "what really happened 9/11".
a 13 second video from ~ 15 years ago where Putin says exactly 2 words is your example of what exactly?
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a 13 second video from ~ 15 years ago where Putin says exactly 2 words is your example of what exactly?
Internet is full of similar clips.
He is not afraid to expose himself to harsh criticism and questions by domestic or foreign media.
USA doesn't allow tough questions from their president.
Here his Chehcnya policy is attacked by foreign journalist. He is not afraid to defend it.
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feel free to post examples and we'll see how they compare to the spokesperson for the POTUS being directed by the POTUS to lie about something which in this case (so far) is solely to prop up his profoundly fragile ego
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/sep/10/hillary-clinton-walks-back-comments-slamming-trump/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/guy-news/?utm_term=.fd3e567aa3b8
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Can you prove CNN was lying? Are there photos to the contrary? I'm serious. Because I watched their stuff last night and they put out a very compelling piece using photos that weren't theirs; it was from different sources (getty, transit authority, secret service, etc)....
The problem is that the Washington Monument was closed so you couldn't get an actual sky high picture, even if you wanted to.
https://twitter.com/Tyrannocankles (https://twitter.com/Tyrannocankles)
I typed into Google, "trump inauguration overflow" that was one of the first things that popped up.
Real talk, on its face it is a silly thing to charge into but that original picture that press used to downplay and to de-legitimize Trumps presidency is pretty lame and an out and out lie. It just confirms what the press is willing to do. With that in mind I don't have a real issue with what Spicer said and did, he just should have chose his words more carefully when claiming things.
Although, Entertainment News says that this was the 2nd highest rated (Neilson) inauguration in 36 years with around 32 million watching on TV alone. Reagan - Obama- Trump. Reagan had 41 million. I think I read that the streaming on other devices was around 20 million or so.
The event was definitely well attended and viewed especially when you consider the riots and violence, security and rioters blocking access points. They could have pointed that out, hammered the media with the same fury and just let the facts speak for themselves while pointing out how dumb the press looks by doing these shenanigans.
Oh well.
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feel free to post examples and we'll see how they compare to the spokesperson for the POTUS being directed by the POTUS to lie about something which in this case (so far) is solely to prop up his profoundly fragile ego
Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga) - "this will be the first inauguration I will miss"
What about Bush 43?
Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga) - ".............. " (dead silence)
So full of shit.
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The problem is that the Washington Monument was closed so you couldn't get an actual sky high picture, even if you wanted to.
https://twitter.com/Tyrannocankles (https://twitter.com/Tyrannocankles)
I typed into Google, "trump inauguration overflow" that was one of the first things that popped up.
Real talk, on its face it is a silly thing to charge into but that original picture that press used to downplay and to de-legitimize Trumps presidency is pretty lame and an out and out lie. It just confirms what the press is willing to do. With that in mind I don't have a real issue with what Spicer said and did, he just should have chose his words more carefully when claiming things.
Although, Entertainment News says that this was the 2nd highest rated (Neilson) inauguration in 36 years with around 32 million watching on TV alone. Reagan - Obama- Trump. Reagan had 41 million. I think I read that the streaming on other devices was around 20 million or so.
The event was definitely well attended and viewed especially when you consider the riots and violence, security and rioters blocking access points. They could have pointed that out, hammered the media with the same fury and just let the facts speak for themselves while pointing out how dumb the press looks by doing these shenanigans.
Oh well.
SaintAnger is a CNN zealot.
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1. You are still really, really angry.
2. No one is ever going to take you seriously until you start using legitimate sources.
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1. You are still really, really angry.
2. No one is ever going to take you seriously until you start using legitimate sources.
Hahaha he is going to be very angry for a long time, will be a wonder if he doesn't have a heart attack over the next 4 years
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We should really just avoid his bullshit threads.
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1. You are still really, really angry.
2. No one is ever going to take you seriously until you start using legitimate sources.
OP Probably took sniper fire in Bosnia with Hillary.
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I really don't care about the attendance of this inauguration, it's petty. That said think there is plenty of evidence out that proves CNN will crop photos and strategically show (or not show) things to create false impressions.
They've been caught doing this several times. They are Democrat political activists. They are not journalists. They purposely mislead in order to shape and sway public opinion.
The Trump administration should absolutely continue to call them out on their shit...they just need to take care and make sure they are right when they do it.
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Here's the entire interview that started the whole thing on MTP.
At 4:15 , Ms. Conway uses the phrase "alternative facts" to explain the Trump side of things.
Here's my 2 cents:
1. I don't think the exact crowd size or TV viewing ratings are a big deal.
But, for team Trump, it was . President Trump brought it up, without being asked , in front of
the CIA Wall of Fallen Hero ( stars). That was inappropriate .
Is his ego really that fragile?
2. How does one have "alternative facts"? There are facts and the rest is bullshit, pulled out someone's ass.
3. It was Pres. Trump and his team that made this a big deal.
It started with WH Press sec Spicer and continued with the rest of his surrogates.
4. To me and many others, the exact crowd size at his Inauguration was a NON-issue.
UNTIL, President Trump ( and his team) made it one.
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AT LEAST 4 years of this. So buckle up...
What has been talked about more: these comments about crowd size or the protests?
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AT LEAST 4 years of this. So buckle up...
What has been talked about more: these comments about crowd size or the protests?
Thank GOD, USMC Gen Mattes was cleared for sec of def with a 98-1 senate vote.
The 1 dissenting voice was a dem liberal female from NY.
I guess she was out marching with a pink pussy hat on Saturday. :-\
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Hillary's Inauguration Size:
(http://www.whio.com/rf/image_inline/Pub/p8/CmgSharedContent/2017/01/17/Images/photos.medleyphoto.12865707.jpg)
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Hillary's Inauguration Size:
(http://i.usatoday.guy/_photos/on-deadline/2012/01/30/National%20Mallx-large.jpg)
Her political career rally could have been at Arlington National Cemetery, It's dead , she lost .
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SaintAnger is a CNN zealot.
SaintAnger is 240's Back's gimmick.
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They didn't say that the bust was gone?
Yes, they lied about that.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BPm-ea-gJ7J/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BPm-ea-gJ7J/)
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I don't think it's a BIG deal , but why did Trump care so much?
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I think he was just a little nervous and pissed at the same time. Hopefully he'll get used to it. He got the point across.
He was rattled and failed to spin things properly.
IF asked Spicer could have said that and smiled with a dismissive.
" We had a wonderful inauguration for Pres. Trump.
He won and was sworn in. If the press wants to analyze crowd sise via satellite , have at it."
I think, that Pres. Trump's ego is so fragile he was rattled by the crowd size.
The very idea that black Barry had more kids at his party bothered him.
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I don't think it's a BIG deal , but why did Trump care so much?
The media is the cat and the Trump team is the guy with laser pointer.
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Sideshow Bob's press briefings are going to be hilarious.
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Sideshow Bob's press briefings are going to be hilarious.
...this will look like a friendly presser by comparison in a few weeks ;D
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Jesus you really need to do some research man. This has been debunked from A-Z. You are embarrassing yourself at this point.
Agreed
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In your opinion.
It is ironic that CNN being complicit with the Dem Party in fake news, skewed election polls, and outright false reporting of voter trends aren't being blamed by the Dems for their low voter turnout?
Think of how many Lil Waynes and Shaniquas stayed home on Election Day because "dey got dis".
Dude....the poictures don't lie...what is going on with guys like you that just simply refuse to believe facts???????????.....its the same with you guys denying science as well.......
STRANGE..........
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I really don't care about the attendance of this inauguration, it's petty. That said think there is plenty of evidence out that proves CNN will crop photos and strategically show (or not show) things to create false impressions.
They've been caught doing this several times. They are Democrat political activists. They are not journalists. They purposely mislead in order to shape and sway public opinion.
The Trump administration should absolutely continue to call them out on their shit...they just need to take care and make sure they are right when they do it.
and FOX NEWS is the patron saint in terms of truthful journalism???????????????
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Hey asshat, mind your own country.
When was the last time you watched press questioning Russian politicians?
When was the last time you understood what they were talking about?
Exactly. You didn't. It's not Russia's fault if you are ignorant little fuck. The press conferences and briefings are there publicly accessible. Unless US government limits your access to Russian media.
Russia lets even American journos into Putin's press conferences. USA doesn't allow Russian journos in white house.
If you don't know what you're talking about just stuff your thumb to your anus next time you feel like writing something out of your ass.
Russian media is run by Putin you stupid idiot.........they will NEVER EVER ask Putin a tough question or about all the money he is stealing........the hypocrisy and idiocy in this thread is absolutely amazing
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Remember when Russia was just a bunch of commies, and the leftists and negroes couldn't say enough nice things about Russia?
LOL!
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Still posting and quoting stories from CNN? lol
C'mon Coach, ya gotta admit this was a bush league play for team Trump.
LOL, Ms Conway even said they provided him with "alternative facts" on MTP.
I watched her say it. She refused to answer the basic question of WHY he spun the crowd size?
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Its pretty damn clear not as many showed up for Trump as Obama - and thats ok and understandable
Obama voters are more emotional, not working, on welfare, deadbeats, govt workers w endless days off - they love that shit.
Trump voters are middle class - work for a living - and have shit to do.
Whats the big problem pointing out the obvious?
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Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga) - "this will be the first inauguration I will miss"
What about Bush 43?
Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga) - ".............. " (dead silence)
So full of shit.
Congressman Lewis reminds me of this charter from Star Wars ( compare videos ;D)
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Its pretty damn clear not as many showed up for Trump as Obama - and thats ok and understandable
Obama voters are more emotional, not working, on welfare, deadbeats, govt workers w endless days off - they love that shit.
Trump voters are middle class - work for a living - and have shit to do.
Whats the big problem pointing out the obvious?
Crowds vary for a variety of reasons and it's no big deal to me.
The deal is Pres. Trump was bothered by it for some reason.
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Hey asshat, mind your own country.
When was the last time you watched press questioning Russian politicians?
When was the last time you understood what they were talking about?
Exactly. You didn't. It's not Russia's fault if you are ignorant little fuck. The press conferences and briefings are there publicly accessible. Unless US government limits your access to Russian media.
Russia lets even American journos into Putin's press conferences. USA doesn't allow Russian journos in white house.
If you don't know what you're talking about just stuff your thumb to your anus next time you feel like writing something out of your ass.
That's because most of the Russia media is operated by the state
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Crowds vary for a variety of reasons and it's no big deal to me.
The deal is Pres. Trump was bothered by it for some reason.
This. He took it personal and let his ego cause him to lie and whine about it.
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Crowds vary for a variety of reasons and it's no big deal to me.
The deal is Pres. Trump was bothered by it for some reason.
Cause he is an ego maniac and loves petty fights over trivial shit
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Cause he is an ego maniac and loves petty fights over trivial shit
THIS is the main reason I couldn't vote for Trump.
However, most of his supporters ignored it and said it was no big deal.
Politics aside, it is a big deal and the country will be in trouble if he
constantly tweets and whines about silly crap he doesn't like.
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Cause he is an ego maniac and loves petty fights over trivial shit
Sometimes you surprise me.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-inauguration-ratings-second-biggest-222037803.html
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Still posting and quoting stories from CNN? lol
Yet you give Russia more credibility than our previous President...
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Agreed, he probably got those ratings. But, less bothered to show up in person and make the trek out than Obama. That's a fact.
And it eats away at Trump supporters baby back bitch manlet core.
And his too.
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and FOX NEWS is the patron saint in terms of truthful journalism???????????????
Who the fuck said anything about Fox News you stupid twat.
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Agreed, he probably got those ratings. But, less bothered to show up in person and make the trek out than Obama. That's a fact.
And it eats away at Trump supporters baby back bitch manlet core.
And his too.
Trump's a Dem plant.
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Yet you give Russia more credibility than our previous President...
"Our" previous president Obozo, had no credibility at all!
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I will take the word of most Presidents, including the previous one, before I trust any outsider.
Anyone who takes the word of a foreign power who has zero checks and balances over our own which does, is probably just delusional.
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Sometimes you surprise me.
I voted and support him - that doesnt mean i wont be honest about what he is. On a personal level - he strikes me as petty and juvenile and obsessed with his image - but i support the issues he claims to want to deal with.
So its sort of like - yeah I get it.
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Who the heck cares about crowd size? This is some seriously stupid stuff.
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Well then, maybe that will work for Trump world wide, as being adversarial with CNN, helped win him the Presidency!
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Your face when Spicer says he has the right to "correct the record" numerous times in today's press briefing
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Fortunately, no one of any value to humanity will die!
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How will they die? Most of these people die through bad lifestyle choices. some Cancer - sure - that sucks.
But after 65 - they are on medicare or medicade - so again WTF are these liberal aholes screaming about.
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This is the picture that has been widely disseminated by CNN and other liberal sources. It's been used to mock Trump as though hardly anyone showed up for his inauguration.
Trump is on your left, Obama on the right.
(https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2017/01/RTSWJVI/lead_960.jpg?1485042022)
Has anyone taken the time to look at CNN's zoomable gigapixel photo? It doesn't match up very well with the above photo.
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/01/politics/trump-inauguration-gigapixel/
Did CNN use a photo from earlier in the day before everyone got there? Looks like it to me.
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Yes, of course they did. But if Trump is on the left and Obama on the right, which one is Jay Cutler?
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Gigapixel matches up with this.
(https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/2017/01/04/inauguration-crowds/9e038837b6bddf59b47212f9df94eff0cf6bbdee/peak-trump-from-cap.jpg)
Unfortunately,
This is Obama's from the same angle.
(https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/2017/01/04/inauguration-crowds/9e038837b6bddf59b47212f9df94eff0cf6bbdee/peak_obama_from_cap.jpg)
Same Time.
Then there was this on USA Today.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/01/24/fact-check-inauguration-crowd-size/96984496/
There is also this Time Lapse on PBS
Look, it's obvious he didn't, but so what... It was rainy... It was cold... He won.
WHY DOES HE CARE?!
If he was smart, he would have stood up and said who cares? I'm in charge now.
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Look, it's obvious he didn't, but so what... It was rainy... It was cold... He won.
WHY DOES HE CARE?!
If he was smart, he would have stood up and said who cares? I'm in charge now.
I don't really care if Trump had more people. Obama was the first black President and Washington DC is a town that votes 70% to 80% Democrat. You wouldn't have to be a genius to predict that Trump was gonna have less.
For me the issue is if CNN used a photo from earlier in the day and then compared it to a photo when Obama was speaking. I do think that matters. It's manipulative.
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I don't really care if Trump had more people. Obama was the first black President and Washington DC is a town that votes 70% to 80% Democrat. You wouldn't have to be a genius to predict that Trump was gonna have less.
For me the issue is if CNN used a photo from earlier in the day and then compared it to a photo when Obama was speaking. I do think that matters. It's manipulative.
The photo of Obama's inauguration was taken at 11:30 by the Associated Press.
The photo of Trump's is actually a screen capture from the Youtube livestream and it was taken at 11:04.
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/20/14332462/photos-crowd-trump-inauguration-vs-obama (http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/20/14332462/photos-crowd-trump-inauguration-vs-obama)
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I don't really care if Trump had more people. Obama was the first black President and Washington DC is a town that votes 70% to 80% Democrat. You wouldn't have to be a genius to predict that Trump was gonna have less.
For me the issue is if CNN used a photo from earlier in the day and then compared it to a photo when Obama was speaking. I do think that matters. It's manipulative.
I do not believe they did.
There was no point in it.
He is the President. Period. No one should give a shit about crowd size.
If I happened to run and be elected president, I would request inauguration be done inside, with a small group, no ticket sales, no parade, no ball, no luncheon, none of that shit.
Want to save money? Start with that shit.
Security in DC was 100 Million dollars for the inauguration. I wouldn't want to spend it.
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Zoom the gigapixel photo all the way to the white building in the back. It does not match what's being shown in the above photo.
Trump took his oath at Noon, did he not? If the photo was taken at 11:04 that's an hour earlier.
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It is, but I believe that Obama took his oath at 12 Noon as well. (11:55) to be precise.
All Presidents recently have taken the oath at the same time, so the actual timeline is relatively the same.
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It is, but I believe that Obama took his oath at 12 Noon as well. (11:55) to be precise.
All Presidents recently have taken the oath at the same time, so the actual timeline is relatively the same.
That's still a half an hour difference if Trumps picture was at 11:04 and Obama's was taken at 11:30.
An hour before the swearing in is significant.
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That's still a half an hour difference if Trumps picture was at 11:04 and Obama's was taken at 11:30.
An hour before the swearing in is significant.
Perhaps, but if you zoom in on the gigapixel, you can see that there is a lot of white space.
I don't think 500K people rolled into the area in an hour. Is there maybe some change, yes, but there's a lot of space open there. I think the reality is that he didn't really come close to the amount Obama had, and that's just reality.
The truth is that it doesn't matter. Not one damn bit.
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He had less people there. Simple as that. Stupid for the press secretary to even debate or care about it on his first day. He made up for it by being smarter and more businesslike now, and moving ahead with the agenda that was promised. Who except the liberal democrats give a crap.
He did have 31 million tv viewers, and 20 million internet streamers plus more.
Mute point, but all it did was give the liberals more firepower in nitpicking anything they can on Trump and his alternative facts.
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That's still a half an hour difference if Trumps picture was at 11:04 and Obama's was taken at 11:30.
An hour before the swearing in is significant.
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"Trump's 2017 inauguration ranks fifth in terms of television viewership: More people tuned in for the second inauguration of Richard Nixon, the inauguration of Jimmy Carter, the first inauguration of Ronald Reagan, and the first inauguration of Barack Obama."
(http://www.snopes.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/trump-crowd.jpg)(http://)
"An analysis of news footage appears to indicate that fewer people attended President Trump’s inauguration than President Obama’s in 2009. The footage on this page was captured 45 minutes before each oath of office. Attendees were still entering the National Mall up until Mr. Trump’s speech."
"Public transit usage is also used to calculate crowd size. The Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority (Metro) reported that 570,557 Metro rides took place on 20 January 2017, a number little more than half the 1.1 million rides undertaken during Barack Obama's first inauguration in 2009, and still significantly lower than the 782,000 rides taken during President Obama's second inauguration in 2013. (These numbers measure the total number of rides recorded from the Metro's early morning opening through midnight, not just the number of rides occurring prior to the start of inaugural ceremonies.)"
"There are several problems with measuring online viewership. For one, there's no official body that tracks total views across all platforms. ComScore, a cross-platform Internet analytics company, told us that they did not have data on the inauguration's online viewership and that they weren't aware of any other company that would.
Another problem is that the way online viewership is measured is different than television. Web sites such as YouTube, for instance, measure the total number of people who click on a video but not the total number who view in its entirety. Nielsen, on the other hand, takes such factors into account before estimating total viewership.
Regardless of the problems inherent with measuring online viewers, Spicer stated that one network (CNN) carried nearly 17 million online streams of the inauguration, and when that total was added to the Nielsen numbers, it was clear that Trump's inauguration was the most viewed in history.
This claim, again, is problematic. CNN did not claim they had 17 million live online viewers for the inauguration; rather, they stated they experienced "17 million live video starts.""
"Furthermore, CNN recorded more live video streams (21 million) during President Obama's inauguration in 2009. While this factor certainly undermines Spicer's digital viewership claim, CNN is only one cable channel, and the numbers might be different if one were to consider another outlet such as the Fox News Channel with its Trump-friendly audience. (Those numbers are not available as of this writing.)
While Spicer claimed that Trump's inauguration had the largest audience in history due in large part to online viewership, that data simply isn't available. And the data that is available undercuts his claim."
"The "official" crowd size measurement for Donald Trump's inauguration is still unknown, but even President Trump's personal estimate (he guessed that 1.5 million people were in attendance) is below the 1.8 million mark estimated for Barack Obama's first inauguration in 2009."
http://www.snopes.com/trump-inauguration-viewership/ (http://www.snopes.com/trump-inauguration-viewership/)
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Someone zoomed in on the clock tower on that Trump pic... it says 1:15.
Like 45 min. after his speech.
Nobody can seem to get this right. lol
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Trump is just trolling. He has been trolling libs since he said he was running for President of the USA.
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Someone zoomed in on the clock tower on that Trump pic... it says 1:15.
Like 45 min. after his speech.
Nobody can seem to get this right. lol
"Without disputing Spicer’s claims about the total capacity of the area he describes, his summary claim that it was "full when the president took the Oath of Office" is demonstrably false. The following photographs taken by Reuters photographer Lucas Jackson show the mall from the top of the Washington Monument. Enlarging the pictures makes it possible to see video screens with President Trump delivering his inaugural speech, complete with visible captions that help establish the time at which they were taken."
"Some commenters have noticed that the clock face visible on the Smithsonian Tower shows a time of approximately 1:15. I spoke with the Smithsonian’s public affairs office, and they confirmed the clock is currently broken. This can be further seen in two photos (photo 1https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2017/01/all-of-this-space-was-full-a-photog-2/RTSWQCL/original.jpg (https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2017/01/all-of-this-space-was-full-a-photog-2/RTSWQCL/original.jpg), photo 2https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2017/01/all-of-this-space-was-full-a-photog-2/RTSWQGG/original.jpg (https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2017/01/all-of-this-space-was-full-a-photog-2/RTSWQGG/original.jpg)) taken by the same photographer, from the same vantage point, during the Women’s March on the day after the inauguration, January 21. Both photos, obviously not taken in the same instant, show the hands on the clock face in the same 1:15 configuration."
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From the women's march.
(https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2017/01/all-of-this-space-was-full-a-photog-2/RTSWQCL/original.jpg)
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https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2017/01/all-of-this-space-was-full-a-photographic-fact-check/514253/ (https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2017/01/all-of-this-space-was-full-a-photographic-fact-check/514253/)
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