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Trump - Alternative Facts dispute re inauguration crowd size
« on: January 21, 2017, 03:52:28 PM »
FULL White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer RIPS Media on False Reporting POTUS Trump Inauguration

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Re: Holy. Shit...
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2017, 05:23:44 PM »
His message was solid, although they should've picked a better messenger. He was angry and it made him come off as ill prepared. He crumbled under the moment.

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Re: Holy. Shit...
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2017, 05:26:04 PM »
I'm not loving this guy so far but I do love that this administration seems motivated to not let the press spread a bunch of bullshit around.

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Re: Holy. Shit...
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2017, 07:05:07 PM »
I think he was just a little nervous and pissed at the same time. Hopefully he'll get used to it. He got the point across.

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Re: Holy. Shit...
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2017, 07:24:50 PM »
I'm not loving this guy so far but I do love that this administration seems motivated to not let the press spread a bunch of bullshit around.

He had no facts.....and his argument was based on anger and wishful thinking

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Re: Holy. Shit...
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2017, 08:17:29 PM »
He had no facts.....and his argument was based on anger and wishful thinking
They didn't say that the bust was gone?

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Re: Holy. Shit...
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2017, 08:52:22 PM »


Amazing. A great tfirst shot to set the tone for the next 8 years. No more relenting to the media to filter and alter and twist the message. The narrative is not theirs to set. Too many other avenues of communication. Spicer was a tad rough but let them know what's up. He's spot on about the crowd stuff. Under past Republican admins they would have curled up and stammered and relented and let CNN eat them alive.

No more. They are actually going to fight.

Glorious!

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Re: Holy. Shit...
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2017, 08:34:26 AM »
This press secretary fella is supposedly well respected by all of the media--left, right and center; a 20 year career vet in the DC political circle.  Even some liberal pro Obama black lawyer on CNN was gushing over him prior to deploying measured criticisms against a related Trump last night. 

Ari Fleisher, Bush's press guy, can forward yesterday, and said this statement was a prepared for an "audience of one". 

Guess who?

And it's just day one.

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Re: Holy. Shit...
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2017, 08:58:02 AM »
He had no facts.....and his argument was based on anger and wishful thinking

Wrong again.  You have no credibility.

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Re: Holy. Shit...
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2017, 09:00:04 AM »
Wrong again.  You have no credibility.

Jesus you really need to do some research man.  This has been debunked from A-Z.  You are embarrassing yourself at this point.

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Re: Holy. Shit...
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2017, 09:13:43 AM »
He had no facts.....and his argument was based on anger and wishful thinking

In your opinion.

It is ironic that CNN being complicit with the Dem Party in fake news, skewed election polls, and outright false reporting of voter trends aren't being blamed by the Dems for their low voter turnout?

Think of how many Lil Waynes and Shaniquas stayed home on Election Day because "dey got dis".

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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2017, 09:37:33 AM »
In your opinion.

It is ironic that CNN being complicit with the Dem Party in fake news, skewed election polls, and outright false reporting of voter trends aren't being blamed by the Dems for their low voter turnout?

Think of how many Lil Waynes and Shaniquas stayed home on Election Day because "dey got dis".

The photos the "press" was passing about were photos from earlier in the day. Apparently the place was nice and filled up before the main event kicked off. Photos from overflow areas are floating about on Twitter etc. CNN has a cool Gigapixel interactive image that proves that, but it doesn't show the whole crowd with some obstructed by foliage and such.

New sheriff in town, nice to see this admin isn't going to roll over and let the anti-American leftist flunkies set the table.

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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2017, 09:44:56 AM »
The photos the "press" was passing about were photos from earlier in the day. Apparently the place was nice and filled up before the main event kicked off. Photos from overflow areas are floating about on Twitter etc. CNN has a cool Gigapixel interactive image that proves that, but it doesn't show the whole crowd with some obstructed by foliage and such.

New sheriff in town, nice to see this admin isn't going to roll over and let the anti-American leftist flunkies set the table.

Can you prove CNN was lying?  Are there photos to the contrary?  I'm serious.  Because I watched their stuff last night and they put out a very compelling piece using photos that weren't theirs; it was from different sources (getty, transit authority, secret service, etc)....

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Trump - Alternative Facts dispute re inauguration crowd size
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2017, 10:52:44 AM »
Looks like the Trump Crime Family has a new slogan

Anytime they tell a blatant and provable lie they are just giving us "alternative facts"

My favorite line in this is when Conway told Chuck Todd that it was not his job "to call things ridiculous that are said by our press secretary and our president"

Hey you dumb kunt - that is exactly his job and the job of all of the free press

This is the United States of America and not Russia or North Korea

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/22/politics/kellyanne-conway-alternative-facts/index.html

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Washington (CNN)White House press secretary Sean Spicer's false claims about the size of the crowd at President Donald Trump's inauguration were "alternative facts," a top Trump aide said Sunday.

In an interview on NBC's "Meet the Press," host Chuck Todd pressed Trump senior adviser Kellyanne Conway about why the White House on Saturday had sent Spicer to the briefing podium for the first time to claim that "this was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, period."

"You're saying it's a falsehood. And they're giving -- Sean Spicer, our press secretary -- gave alternative facts," she said.
Todd responded: "Alternative facts aren't facts, they are falsehoods."

Conway then tried to pivot to policy points. But later in the interview, Todd pressed Conway again on why the White House sent Spicer out to make false claims about crowd size, asking: "What was the motive to have this ridiculous litigation of crowd size?" "Your job is not to call things ridiculous that are said by our press secretary and our president. That's not your job," Conway said. Todd followed up: "Can you please answer the question? Why did he do this? You have not answered it -- it's only one question."

Conway said: "I'll answer it this way: Think about what you just said to your viewers. That's why we feel compelled to go out and clear the air and put alternative facts out there."

Trump himself directed Spicer to go to the White House briefing room to talk about the inauguration crowd size, Conway told CNN's Athena Jones on Sunday.

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Re: Alternative Facts
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2017, 11:14:54 AM »
Still posting and quoting stories from CNN? lol

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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2017, 11:31:07 AM »


This is the United States of America and not Russia or North Korea

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Hey asshat, mind your own country.

When was the last time you watched press questioning Russian politicians?
When was the last time you understood what they were talking about?

Exactly. You didn't. It's not Russia's fault if you are ignorant little fuck. The press conferences and briefings are there publicly accessible. Unless US government limits your access to Russian media.


Russia lets even American journos into Putin's press conferences. USA doesn't allow Russian journos in white house.


If you don't know what you're talking about just stuff your thumb to your anus next time you feel like writing something out of your ass.

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Re: Alternative Facts
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2017, 11:31:17 AM »
Still posting and quoting stories from CNN? lol

are you still a retarded midget and phony coach who claims profound ignorance as a badge of pride?

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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2017, 11:37:44 AM »

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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2017, 11:41:38 AM »

You only appear on top of "press freedom" ratings because you own the companies doing the ratings LOL

But this is slowly changing. People don't believe the BS anymore. Hence the panic within your regime.
You remember how they cried in their report about Russian media broadcasting debate of two smaller presidential hopefuls? Panic mode.

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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2017, 11:46:44 AM »
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Hey asshat, mind your own country.

When was the last time you watched press questioning Russian politicians?
When was the last time you understood what they were talking about?

Exactly. You didn't.

Russia lets even American journos into Putin's press conferences. USA doesn't allow Russian journos in white house.


If you don't know what you're talking about just stuff your thumb to your anus next time you feel like writing something out of your ass.


It's hilarious that you think Russia is some kind of bastion of free press and free speech

Are you referring to Putin's annual press conference that are choreographed to Putin specific requirements and reported through Russia government owned news agency




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Re: Alternative Facts
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2017, 11:51:53 AM »
Looks like the Trump Crime Family has a new slogan

Anytime they tell a blatant and provable lie they are just giving us "alternative facts"

My favorite line in this is when Conway told Chuck Todd that it was not his job "to call things ridiculous that are said by our press secretary and our president"

Hey you dumb kunt - that is exactly his job and the job of all of the free press

This is the United States of America and not Russia or North Korea

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/22/politics/kellyanne-conway-alternative-facts/index.html


Do you mean like how Democrats "walk back their comments" or "misremembers" things?

The mainstream media has become a joke, just like the liberals it shills for.

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« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2017, 11:54:30 AM »
It's hilarious that you think Russia is some kind of bastion of free press and free speech

Are you referring to Putin's annual press conference that are choreographed to Putin specific requirements and reported through Russia government owned news agency


No, I'm referring to hundreds of other press conferences and briefings by multiple officials.

Putin is asked much tougher questions than any US president.
Let's see US president coming on air in Russian media answering question from Russian journo "what really happened 9/11".



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Re: Alternative Facts
« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2017, 11:54:53 AM »
Do you mean like how Democrats "walk back their comments" or "misremembers" things?

The mainstream media has become a joke, just like the liberals it shills for.

feel free to post examples and we'll see how they compare to the spokesperson for the POTUS being directed by the POTUS to lie about something which in this case (so far) is solely to prop up his profoundly fragile ego



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« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2017, 11:58:35 AM »
No, I'm referring to hundreds of other press conferences and briefings by multiple officials.

Putin is asked much tougher questions than any US president.
Let's see US president coming on air in Russian media answering question from Russian journo "what really happened 9/11".




a 13 second video from ~ 15 years ago where Putin says exactly 2 words is your example of what exactly?


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« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2017, 12:06:43 PM »
a 13 second video from ~ 15 years ago where Putin says exactly 2 words is your example of what exactly?



Internet is full of similar clips.
He is not afraid to expose himself to harsh criticism and questions by domestic or foreign media.

USA doesn't allow tough questions from their president.


Here his Chehcnya policy is attacked by foreign journalist. He is not afraid to defend it.