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Getting interesting...
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Sounds pretty sinister. Must be part of those "seedy ties" to Russia.
How exactly did Trump try to influence the investigation?
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Sounds pretty sinister. Must be part of those "seedy ties" to Russia.
How exactly did Trump try to influence the investigation?
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FBI rejected White House request to refute Trump-Russia stories ...
MarketWatch-22 minutes ago
FBI rejected WH request to deny contacts between Trump advisers ...
The Hill (blog)-1 hour ago
White House Reportedly Pressed FBI to Debunk Reports on Trump ...
Haaretz-2 hours ago
FBI rejects White House request to debunk Russia stories
International-Business Insider-1 hour ago
CNN: White House tried to get FBI to dispute story of Russia contacts
International-USA TODAY-1 hour ago
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FBI refused White House request to knock down recent Trump ...
CNN-3 hours ago
Washington (CNN) The FBI rejected a recent White House request to publicly knock down media reports about communications between ...
FBI rejected White House request to refute Trump-Russia stories ...
MarketWatch-22 minutes ago
FBI rejected WH request to deny contacts between Trump advisers ...
The Hill (blog)-1 hour ago
White House Reportedly Pressed FBI to Debunk Reports on Trump ...
Haaretz-2 hours ago
FBI rejects White House request to debunk Russia stories
International-Business Insider-1 hour ago
CNN: White House tried to get FBI to dispute story of Russia contacts
International-USA TODAY-1 hour ago
Hahaha. That's it? White House wanted the FBI to refute bullshit stories?
A whole lotta nothing.
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Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse this week said he's sure the Russia-related cloud hanging over President Donald Trump's administration will not be clearing up any time soon.
And Republicans, he said, are beginning to take the accusations much more seriously.
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This is not very compelling if you ask me.
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Getting interesting...
Sure he did. More bullshit
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Ha! This will surely stop him!
Drumpf BTFO!
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Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse this week said he's sure the Russia-related cloud hanging over President Donald Trump's administration will not be clearing up any time soon.
And Republicans, he said, are beginning to take the accusations much more seriously.
Ahahahahahahah. Oh brother.
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From an "article" from Yahoo News today....
"Reuters has not verified the reports, and the FBI could not be immediately reached for comment."
Same lame old unsourced garbage.
Next.
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Oh no. Nick Danger is another one of 240's gimmicks. Trump's a Dem plant.
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Peter Hamby
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@PeterHamby
Crowd at CPAC waving these little pro-Trump flags that look exactly like the Russian flag. Staffers quickly come around to confiscate them.
7:34 AM - 24 Feb 2017
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Priceless!
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Peter Hamby
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@PeterHamby
Crowd at CPAC waving these little pro-Trump flags that look exactly like the Russian flag. Staffers quickly come around to confiscate them.
7:34 AM - 24 Feb 2017
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Priceless!
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Looks like Soros paid people to troll Trump's little gathering. Happens on both sides. Trump trolls the libs and the media all the time.
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Looks like Soros paid people to troll Trump's little gathering. Happens on both sides. Trump trolls the libs and the media all the time.
You'd think people attending a political event would recognize the Russian flag.
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Peter Hamby
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@PeterHamby
Crowd at CPAC waving these little pro-Trump flags that look exactly like the Russian flag. Staffers quickly come around to confiscate them.
7:34 AM - 24 Feb 2017
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5cNHRoWcAALqbS.jpg)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5cNHSGWQAAiqdL.jpg)
Priceless!
More plants by Clayton. You enjoy your people looking like fools? Why do you enjoy tormenting yourself?
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More plants by Clayton. You enjoy your people looking like fools? Why do you enjoy tormenting yourself?
Free admission for the under-educated.
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Peter Hamby
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@PeterHamby
Crowd at CPAC waving these little pro-Trump flags that look exactly like the Russian flag. Staffers quickly come around to confiscate them.
7:34 AM - 24 Feb 2017
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5cNHRoWcAALqbS.jpg)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5cNHSGWQAAiqdL.jpg)
Priceless!
Rob (240) is wrong again...
This was Ryan Clayton from Bob Creamer group "Americans Take Action" handing Russian flags. Ryan was forcibly removed. You edited that out. https://t.co/hKwywREjn5
— James O'Keefe (@JamesOKeefeIII) February 24, 2017
Far-left group behind stunt, but MSM leaves that out
http://www.infowars.com/fake-news-media-says-trump-supporters-waved-russian-flags-at-cpac-omit-fact-its-a-prank/
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You'd think people attending a political event would recognize the Russian flag.
Not necessarily. It's a low power flag now. Nothing outstanding and recognizable like soviet flag was.
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"Far-left group behind stunt, but MSM leaves that out"
I doubt anyone would think the republicans were behind this...get a sense of humor!
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FBI refused White House request to knock down recent Trump ...
CNN-3 hours ago
Washington (CNN) The FBI rejected a recent White House request to publicly knock down media reports about communications between ...
FBI rejected White House request to refute Trump-Russia stories ...
MarketWatch-22 minutes ago
FBI rejected WH request to deny contacts between Trump advisers ...
The Hill (blog)-1 hour ago
White House Reportedly Pressed FBI to Debunk Reports on Trump ...
Haaretz-2 hours ago
FBI rejects White House request to debunk Russia stories
International-Business Insider-1 hour ago
CNN: White House tried to get FBI to dispute story of Russia contacts
International-USA TODAY-1 hour ago
Aren't you embarrassed to be posting fake news?
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Aren't you embarrassed to be posting fake news?
Are we saying that only Breitbart or Facebook are real news now?
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Aren't you embarrassed to be posting fake news?
White House confirms conversation with FBI about Trump and Russia
Reince Priebus, FBI director James Comey and deputy director Andrew McCabe had a conversation which appears to violate justice department rules
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Are we saying that only Breitbart or Facebook are real news now?
Nah. I know this is sorta circular reasoning, but only fake news stories are fake news. For example, I don't think CNN is a fake news network, but they do post fake news stories.
And some like Huffington Post are incredibly dishonest. One example is the guy who was nominated for labor secretary. Huffington Post ran a story saying he was accused of beating his ex wife. When you read the story, buried near the end is a quote from his ex wife recanting, saying it never happened. Many other examples like this, but I completely understand why Trump is railing on the media.
Honestly, even though I think he complains too much, I like the fact someone is finally punching back.
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White House confirms conversation with FBI about Trump and Russia
Reince Priebus, FBI director James Comey and deputy director Andrew McCabe had a conversation which appears to violate justice department rules
Can you summarize what happened in your own words instead of plagiarizing out-of-context quotes from the internet?
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From the CNN "report"....BREAKING NEWS!
The FBI rejected a recent White House request to publicly knock down media reports about communications between Donald Trump’s associates and Russians known to US intelligence during the 2016 presidential campaign, multiple US officials briefed on the matter tell CNN.
But a White House official said late Thursday that the request was only made after the FBI indicated to the White House it did not believe the reporting to be accurate.
White House officials had sought the help of the bureau and other agencies investigating the Russia matter to say that the reports were wrong and that there had been no contacts, the officials said. The reports of the contacts were first published by The New York Times and CNN on February 14.
The direct communications between the White House and the FBI were unusual because of decade-old restrictions on such contacts. Such a request from the White House is a violation of procedures that limit communications with the FBI on pending investigations.
Late Thursday night, White House press secretary Sean Spicer objected to CNN’s characterization of the White House request to the FBI.
“We didn’t try to knock the story down. We asked them to tell the truth,” Spicer said. The FBI declined to comment for this story.
The discussions between the White House and the bureau began with FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe and White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus on the sidelines of a separate White House meeting the day after the stories were published, according to a US law enforcement official.
So, the White House asked the FBI to refute or comment or whatever on several "stories" (anonymously sourced, of course) that weren't true or accurate. The FBI said 'No' because it doesn't want to call balls and strikes and stories and it doesn't want to comment on possible ongoing investigations.
Wow. Huge stuff here, folks.
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Huffers' Post is a disgrace. Arianna Huffington really, really badly screwed up when she sold that the way she did.
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Can you summarize what happened in your own words instead of plagiarizing out-of-context quotes from the internet?
Just headlines from The Guardian.
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Just headlines from The Guardian.
I guess that means "no"? You still don't realize that what you posted is fake news?
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White House confirms conversation with FBI about Trump and Russia
Reince Priebus, FBI director James Comey and deputy director Andrew McCabe had a conversation which appears to violate justice department rules
Hey, an actual source!
"....appears to violate..."
Another great media parlor trick...."...Appears to violate..." which means it doesn't but they want you to think that it does so they can set the narrative.
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I guess that means "no"? You still don't realize that what you posted is fake news?
You obviously have difficulty with the term. Too many will call out "fake news" anytime they disagree with a news source. Sad !
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Hey, an actual source!
"....appears to violate..."
Another great media parlor trick...."...Appears to violate..." which means it doesn't but they want you to think that it does so they can set the narrative.
“The White House appears to have violated accepted protocols and procedures,” said former FBI special agent Ali Soufan.
Special agent, not a lawyer.
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You obviously have difficulty with the term. Too many will call out "fake news" anytime they disagree with a news source. Sad !
Your headline and this thread is fake news. You cannot even summarize in your own words how Trump tried to influence an FBI investigation.
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Your headline and this thread is fake news. You cannot even summarize in your own words how Trump tried to influence an FBI investigation.
Because they didn't try to influence anything. If the reports are true they asked the FBI to start publicly calling bullshit on the bullshit "stories."
They declined. That's fine.
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Because they didn't try to influence anything. If the reports are true they asked the FBI to start publicly calling bullshit on the bullshit "stories."
They declined. That's fine.
Hey don't throw him a lifeline. lol :)
But you are correct. What I heard is the FBI official approached Preibus and told him the stories were BS. Preibus then asked if the FBI could say publicly that the story was BS. The FBI declined.
I doubt this will stop "Nick Danger" from running with this fake news story.
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Nah. I know this is sorta circular reasoning, but only fake news stories are fake news. For example, I don't think CNN is a fake news network, but they do post fake news stories.
And some like Huffington Post are incredibly dishonest. One example is the guy who was nominated for labor secretary. Huffington Post ran a story saying he was accused of beating his ex wife. When you read the story, buried near the end is a quote from his ex wife recanting, saying it never happened. Many other examples like this, but I completely understand why Trump is railing on the media.
Honestly, even though I think he complains too much, I like the fact someone is finally punching back.
I think that you shouldn't attack the press to be honest. Let them say whatever they want. No big deal. They do that.
I also think it's our job as citizens to look at the report as a whole and make decisions on what we agree or disagree with.
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I think that you shouldn't attack the press to be honest. Let them say whatever they want. No big deal. They do that.
I also think it's our job as citizens to look at the report as a whole and make decisions on what we agree or disagree with.
Why should the press be able to attack people, violate people's privacy, ruin reputations, engage in extreme bias, race bait, and then be immune from criticism?
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Hey don't throw him a lifeline. lol :)
But you are correct. What I heard is the FBI official approached Preibus and told him the stories were BS. Preibus then asked if the FBI could say publicly that the story was BS. The FBI declined.
I doubt this will stop "Nick Danger" from running with this fake news story.
You're assuming the White House's story is true, the FBI wouldn't confirm it. All Trump has to do is declassify the information and we'd get the truth right now. Keep chirping about "fake news" I'm enjoying your snowflake meltdowns.
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You're assuming the White House's story is true, the FBI wouldn't confirm it. All Trump has to do is declassify the information and we'd get the truth right now. Keep chirping about "fake news" I'm enjoying your snowflake meltdowns.
Well at least you didn't just plagiarize some fake news headlines this time. :)
What is classified? The discussion Preibus had with the FBI official? He already talked about it, so how can it be classified?
Nobody in this thread is melting down. lol The only meltdowns I see are you folks suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome.
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Well at least you didn't just plagiarize some fake news headlines this time. :)
What is classified? The discussion Preibus had with the FBI official? He already talked about it, so how can it be classified?
Nobody in this thread is melting down. lol The only meltdowns I see are you folks suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Hahahah, indeed!
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Well at least you didn't just plagiarize some fake news headlines this time. :)
What is classified? The discussion Preibus had with the FBI official? He already talked about it, so how can it be classified?
Nobody in this thread is melting down. lol The only meltdowns I see are you folks suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome.
What is classified?
The information pertaining to the contact between the White House and Russia.
I don't dislike many of Trump's policies, I just think the guy is a complete buffoon.
I just can't comprehend how you guys fall for/overlook all his bs.
Before the election your (republicans) stance was he's better than the alternative but now he can do no wrong.
Only his trade policies will affect me directly.
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I don't dislike many of Trump's policies, I just think the guy is a complete buffoon.
I just can't comprehend how you guys fall for/overlook all his bs.
Before the election your (republicans) stance was he's better than the alternative but now he can do no wrong.
Only his trade policies will affect me directly.
What does the above have to do with anything?
Game.Set.Match.
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What does the above have to do with anything?
Game.Set.Match.
It was in response to this you little snowflake.
"The only meltdowns I see are you folks suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome."
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Why should the press be able to attack people, violate people's privacy, ruin reputations, engage in extreme bias, race bait, and then be immune from criticism?
I don't think it's immune, but the free press is a cornerstone of this country. The idea that we can start denigrating it and it's "ok", is a problem to me.
You have freedom to say what you like. So should they. Fundamental cornerstones of our democracy.
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Looks like, yet again, the media has been caught pushing false narratives and fake news.
The story is a big nothing. A question was asked and answered.
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It was in response to this you little snowflake.
"The only meltdowns I see are you folks suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome."
You seem to have an acute case, seek medical attention. You also bought a bogus narrative, in this case, but it's early.
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I don't think it's immune, but the free press is a cornerstone of this country. The idea that we can start denigrating it and it's "ok", is a problem to me.
You have freedom to say what you like. So should they. Fundamental cornerstones of our democracy.
Part of free speech means the press can report the news, even in a biased and unfair way, and we the people can criticize them for how they report the news. That doesn't take away from their freedom.
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A free press is vital to democratic society for the perhaps not-so-obvious FACT that it's the only secure way toward truth. That's it. Nothing else can be trusted.
So it's not surprising to see how a sad excuse for a "free press" has led all the dummies into thinking that it means nothing more than a press unaffected by an outside influence such as President Trump who is understandably angry with them.
Um, no, assholes! You're not a free press. You're a select billion-dollar club of degenerates who warped the idea of free press into something which works entirely AGAINST the meaning of the thing. You did that for your own sick purposes. You don't have nearly enough angry people after you!
Think about that when you want the truth, amigos.
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A free press is vital to democratic society for the perhaps not-so-obvious FACT that it's the only secure way toward truth. That's it. Nothing else can be trusted.
So it's not surprising to see how a sad excuse for a "free press" has led all the dummies into thinking that it means nothing more than a press unaffected by an outside influence such as President Trump who is understandably angry with them.
Um, no, assholes! You're not a free press. You're a select billion-dollar club of degenerates who warped the idea of free press into something which works entirely AGAINST the meaning of the thing. You did that for your own sick purposes. You don't have nearly enough angry people after you! (Fuck you, as well.)
Think about that when you want the truth, amigos!
I agree with this.
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Part of free speech means the press can report the news, even in a biased and unfair way, and we the people can criticize them for how they report the news. That doesn't take away from their freedom.
I never said that people can't criticize them. I think the average citizen should, but I don't think it's good for the POTUS to do it.
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I agree with this.
Quite frankly, I'm a little concerned about Tu, and whether he understands the matter.
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Quite frankly, I'm a little concerned about Tu, and whether he understands the matter.
Your concern is noted.
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Your concern is noted.
;D ;D
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I never said that people can't criticize them. I think the average citizen should, but I don't think it's good for the POTUS to do it.
Let's take the MLK bust story. A reporter falsely claimed Trump removed it, trying to paint Trump as a racist. Should Trump just bend over and take it? Why shouldn't he be able to call them out for something like that?
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Your concern is noted.
Doh! lol :D
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Gregg Jarrett: Pelosi's crazy claims about Priebus' contact with the FBI don't add up
By Gregg Jarrett
Published February 27, 2017
FoxNews.com
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi of Calif. responds to questions about President Donald Trump's actions and agenda, during a news conference on Capitol Hill in Washington, Thursday, Feb. 2, 2017. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi of Calif. responds to questions about President Donald Trump's actions and agenda, during a news conference on Capitol Hill in Washington, Thursday, Feb. 2, 2017. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite) (AP)
Nancy Pelosi is nothing, if not inane.
She is, of course, the former Speaker of the House who infamously said of ObamaCare, “We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what’s in it.”
And who can forget the time she claimed that “500 million people will lose their jobs each month until we have an economic package" ? Which is a pretty neat trick since there are roughly 300 million people living in the U.S.
So, it is understandable that Pelosi’s latest statement was met with the usual eye-rolling. She all but accused the Trump White House of obstructing justice when she described Chief of Staff Reince Priebus’s conversation with a senior FBI official as “a grave abuse of power…which may also be illegal.”
Some background is helpful. Priebus says he was approached by FBI Director Andrew McCabe who described as inaccurate a New York Times article about repeated contacts between Russia and the Trump campaign. Priebus allegedly asked the FBI to correct the record by disabusing the story with the truth. Since Justice Department guidelines prohibit the FBI from speaking about an ongoing investigation, the agency declined to comment.
(Of course, FBI Director James Comey, seemed to ignore those same guidelines when he chose to disclose details of the Hillary Clinton email investigation, but there is no shortage of hypocrisy in Washington.)
Pelosi, who is prone to batty remarks, promptly denounced Priebus and convicted the president for his “explosive ties… to Russian intelligence agents.” She demanded a full-blown investigation by the Department of Justice’s Inspector General into felonious conduct which she did not bother to identify.
The Democratic leader might consider popping a valium before she hyperventilates.
It is not a crime to solicit the truth. Honesty is not a felony. Obstruction of justice is clearly defined by 18 USC 1503:
“Whoever corruptly or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication, influences, obstructs, or impedes…the due administration of justice, shall be punished as provided in subsection (b).”
A companion section, 18 USC 1505, applies the same terminology to “the proper administration of law” before any department or agency of the U.S., which would include the FBI.
No language in either statute even remotely approaches what Priebus asked McCabe to do. What corrupt act did the chief of staff commit? Maybe eliciting the truth is corrupt only in Pelosi’s world where facts seem immaterial.
Obstruction is typically an effort to alter, destroy or conceal the truth and/or physical evidence. There is no suggestion that Priebus ever attempted to do so. To the contrary, reports indicate his sole desire was to refute a false story. How is that a crime under the law? Decidedly, it is not.
Perhaps Pelosi was inspired by the inflammatory, albeit fallacious, tweets of liberal law professor Laurence Tribe who called for the indictment of Priebus for obstructing justice. The Harvard Law prof compared it to Richard Nixon and “his staff’s efforts to deflect the FBI investigation of the Watergate break-in.”
Seriously? That’s laughable, professor. Soliciting the truth was anathema to Nixon and his “dirty tricksters”. Their sole objective was to hide the truth and demonize anyone who sought to reveal it. It became the legal standard for corrupt political acts.
Reince Priebus may have been naïve to think that the FBI would get involved in rebutting a false narrative. But Nancy Pelosi is the one who is guilty of making a false accusation.
And peddling the kind of canard for which she is well known.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/02/27/gregg-jarrett-pelosis-crazy-claims-about-priebus-contact-with-fbi-dont-add-up.html
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Let's take the MLK bust story. A reporter falsely claimed Trump removed it, trying to paint Trump as a racist. Should Trump just bend over and take it? Why shouldn't he be able to call them out for something like that?
I think that is perfectly acceptable to call them out on.
That is absolutely fine with me. I don't know if I made much of an issue about it, but I "think" I mentioned that it was still there and that the reporter was wrong.
I think those types of issues are fine to bring to the forefront. I disagree with his general statements of calling the Press presenters of "fake news" though.
No problem calling out bullshit, but at the same time, do not cut the press off just because they say something stupid or present something incorrectly. Hold them accountable by stating the truth.
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I think that is perfectly acceptable to call them out on.
That is absolutely fine with me. I don't know if I made much of an issue about it, but I "think" I mentioned that it was still there and that the reporter was wrong.
I think those types of issues are fine to bring to the forefront. I disagree with his general statements of calling the Press presenters of "fake news" though.
No problem calling out bullshit, but at the same time, do not cut the press off just because they say something stupid or present something incorrectly. Hold them accountable by stating the truth.
I think we're saying pretty much the same thing. I agree he shouldn't try and censor the press and should avoid blanket statements about the press.
That said, I have no problem with him calling out fake news stories. I'm not a fan of his overall approach, but I do like the fact he isn't being a doormat.
The media in general is in the tank for the Democrat party. They were clearly trying to engineer a result during the election and it blew up in their faces. Now they are trying to tear the man down and he is standing toe-to-toe exchanging blows. They are not used to that.
The media is a necessary evil. They do some great things. They do some pretty bad things.
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I think we're saying pretty much the same thing. I agree he shouldn't try and censor the press and should avoid blanket statements about the press.
That said, I have no problem with him calling out fake news stories. I'm not a fan of his overall approach, but I do like the fact he isn't being a doormat.
The media is a necessary evil. They do some great things. They do some pretty bad things.
Practically what most people have been saying since July 2015, LOL.
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Practically what most people have been saying since July 2015, LOL.
Yeah. Gotta take the good with the bad. He's not going to change. It looks like he's going to get a lot of good things done, while burning down the house. lol
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I think we're saying pretty much the same thing. I agree he shouldn't try and censor the press and should avoid blanket statements about the press.
That said, I have no problem with him calling out fake news stories. I'm not a fan of his overall approach, but I do like the fact he isn't being a doormat.
The media in general is in the tank for the Democrat party. They were clearly trying to engineer a result during the election and it blew up in their faces. Now they are trying to tear the man down and he is standing toe-to-toe exchanging blows. They are not used to that.
The media is a necessary evil. They do some great things. They do some pretty bad things.
Agreed. He should hit them back with facts and reality.
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Agreed. He should hit them back with facts and reality.
This we can all agree with!
The truth does not fear investigation.
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This we can all agree with!
The truth does not fear investigation.
EXACTLY!