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Title: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Rami on March 19, 2017, 12:44:30 PM
But eventually the cops show up.



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Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: mass243 on March 19, 2017, 12:50:19 PM
Crazy fuck.
Hope she was beaten in detention.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on March 19, 2017, 12:50:46 PM
Didn't think a male officer is allowed hand search females
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: mass243 on March 19, 2017, 12:56:11 PM
What were the tough old hags doing there? Trying to set her free?

Responding cops should have shot the hags as self defense.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: mass243 on March 19, 2017, 12:57:02 PM
Didn't think a male officer is allowed hand search females

Really?
That's fucked up. 
Does it work other way too? Female officer can't hand search male?
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Henda on March 19, 2017, 12:57:15 PM
Would fuck this theiving whore with passion and aggression
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: oldschoolfan on March 19, 2017, 12:59:34 PM
she deserved his big black cock up her ass and down her throat.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 19, 2017, 01:02:11 PM
She dindu nuffin!
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Skylge on March 19, 2017, 01:02:14 PM
She is quite cute
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: oldschoolfan on March 19, 2017, 01:03:39 PM
a white trash whore, probably voted for hillary to
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Rami on March 19, 2017, 01:04:28 PM
Really?
That's fucked up. 
Does it work other way too? Female officer can't hand search male?

No. Becuase I remember in the news some female cop pulling and severely injuring a guy's testicles during a search.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/01/25/female-philly-cop-pulls-teens-scrotum-during-stopfrisk-genitals-torn-off-16-year-old/
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: BB on March 19, 2017, 01:10:25 PM
Fuck her and fuck that annoying old lady trying to butt in too. Shame he couldn't just punch her square in the face, few things worse than an entitled dope fiend.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: The True Adonis on March 19, 2017, 01:12:53 PM
She deserves arrest and pepper sprayed etc... (just for the fact that she probably voted for Hillary alone), however it is ILLEGAL for a store employee to detain someone like that. 
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: oldschoolfan on March 19, 2017, 01:14:44 PM
She deserves arrest and pepper sprayed etc... (just for the fact that she probably voted for Hillary alone), however it is ILLEGAL for a store employee to detain someone like that. 

adonis you are right about that, even security guards as far as i know cannot technically detain someone i could be wrong, but in my state they cant
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: The True Adonis on March 19, 2017, 01:20:24 PM
adonis you are right about that, even security guards as far as i know cannot technically detain someone i could be wrong, but in my state they cant
Yeah.  That Rite Aid employee is fucked.  They will fire him and he could face other charges for doing that.  They are not allowed to do any of what he did by law.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Fortress on March 19, 2017, 01:21:55 PM
Didn't think a male officer is allowed hand search females

In the absence of a female officer, he is. Men are trained how to do so with as little "violation" as possible: knife-edge underhand along private areas, etc.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Fortress on March 19, 2017, 01:25:04 PM
She deserves arrest and pepper sprayed etc... (just for the fact that she probably voted for Hillary alone), however it is ILLEGAL for a store employee to detain someone like that.  

No it isn't. He observed a crime committed. Has a legal right to "arrest" the individual until a peace officer arrives. Force used to do so must be reasonable.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on March 19, 2017, 01:26:23 PM
In the absence of a female officer, he is. Men are trained how to do so with as little "violation" as possible: knife-edge underhand along private areas, etc.
Thank you for the knowledge
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Disgusted on March 19, 2017, 01:46:03 PM
No it isn't. He observed a crime committed. Has a legal right to "arrest" the individual until a peace officer arrives. Force used to do so must be reasonable.

Wrong bro. She's slug but lets say for example someone who can afford a good attorney had this happen to them, unless they were on camera it's his word against theirs. He assaulted her by definition of the law. He has no right to grab another person. All can do is call the cops and maybe take a photo of her. Her attorney would then sue the store and the individual her assaulted her.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: The True Adonis on March 19, 2017, 01:46:56 PM
No it isn't. He observed a crime committed. Has a legal right to "arrest" the individual until a peace officer arrives. Force used to do so must be reasonable.
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This also happened in Oregon where the video in this thread took place.

Manager fired from Gresham Rite Aid for grabbing shoplifter's bag

http://www.oregonlive.com/gresham/index.ssf/2015/04/manager_fired_from_gresham_rit.html

According to the lawsuit, Sartwell and the store manager saw a woman stuff some items in a bag, then walk past the register and security towers toward the doors without paying. Sartwell grabbed the woman's bag and told the woman to give up the goods, but the woman responded by pushing Sartwell twice in the chest, the suit states.

"Plaintiff moved the shoplifter from the door to the register and instructed the cashier Cassandra to call the police," the suit says. "The shoplifter then pulled a switchblade knife on Plaintiff, so Plaintiff let go of the bag and the shoplifter left the store with defendants' merchandise."

The suit says Sartwell and the cashier followed the woman outside and snapped photos of the car she got in and its license plates.

Six days later, Sartwell was fired -- in part for telling the cashier to call police, then talking to them after they arrived, her suit states.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Disgusted on March 19, 2017, 01:57:32 PM
Just to add a smart lawyer would also sue for kidnapping.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Fortress on March 19, 2017, 02:01:30 PM
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This also happened in Oregon where the video in this thread took place.

Manager fired from Gresham Rite Aid for grabbing shoplifter's bag

http://www.oregonlive.com/gresham/index.ssf/2015/04/manager_fired_from_gresham_rit.html

According to the lawsuit, Sartwell and the store manager saw a woman stuff some items in a bag, then walk past the register and security towers toward the doors without paying. Sartwell grabbed the woman's bag and told the woman to give up the goods, but the woman responded by pushing Sartwell twice in the chest, the suit states.

"Plaintiff moved the shoplifter from the door to the register and instructed the cashier Cassandra to call the police," the suit says. "The shoplifter then pulled a switchblade knife on Plaintiff, so Plaintiff let go of the bag and the shoplifter left the store with defendants' merchandise."

The suit says Sartwell and the cashier followed the woman outside and snapped photos of the car she got in and its license plates.

Six days later, Sartwell was fired -- in part for telling the cashier to call police, then talking to them after they arrived, her suit states.


Whether the store decides to fire the employee or not doesn't change the fact a citizen who observes a crime being committed can make a citizen's arrest.
Title: Black Thug tries to rob an innocent white woman.
Post by: Pray_4_War on March 19, 2017, 02:02:04 PM


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Title: Re: Black Thug tries to rob an innocent white woman.
Post by: Master Blaster on March 19, 2017, 02:06:45 PM
Amusing video, does he work there?  :D
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Master Blaster on March 19, 2017, 02:07:55 PM
Would fuck this theiving whore with passion and aggression

Maybe a little deeper and harder than usual.  ;D
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Disgusted on March 19, 2017, 02:08:25 PM


Whether the store decides to fire the employee or not doesn't change the fact a citizen who observes a crime being committed can make a citizen's arrest.

Wrong again. The only crime that was witnessed was the store employee assaulting the lady.
Title: Re: Black Thug tries to rob an innocent white woman.
Post by: Pray_4_War on March 19, 2017, 02:09:19 PM
Amusing video, does he work there?  :D

Work?  lol.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: mass243 on March 19, 2017, 02:09:46 PM
What's the point of having security guards or whatever they are called if they can do nothing  ???
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: The True Adonis on March 19, 2017, 02:12:08 PM
What's the point of having security guards or whatever they are called if they can do nothing  ???

So they can be called as a witness if the police make an arrest.  They can get license plates, try to ID someone so they can provide info to police, but thats about it in most cases.  Different stores have different policies and Rite Aid really has no policy.  That employee is fucked.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Disgusted on March 19, 2017, 02:12:59 PM
What's the point of having security guards or whatever they are called if they can do nothing  ???

For  the security company to make lots of money.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Pray_4_War on March 19, 2017, 02:14:31 PM
What's the point of having security guards or whatever they are called if they can do nothing  ???

The illusion of safety.  That's big in the United States.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: TRIX on March 19, 2017, 07:21:22 PM
If it's not your store, why even bother


Get shot or stabbed over a candy bar
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: TheGrinch on March 19, 2017, 07:22:05 PM
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: SF1900 on March 19, 2017, 08:51:11 PM
I'm currently a security guard for a mall. I've had to take down a few people who were shoplifting.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on March 19, 2017, 09:51:40 PM


Whether the store decides to fire the employee or not doesn't change the fact a citizen who observes a crime being committed can make a citizen's arrest.

I believe the crime witnessed must be felony level.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Simple Simon on March 20, 2017, 01:22:06 AM
She deserves arrest and pepper sprayed etc... (just for the fact that she probably voted for Hillary alone), however it is ILLEGAL for a store employee to detain someone like that. 
that wasn't "detain" that was "restrain", you can detain someone all you like, when someone is being detained they are free to leave at any time, its just some don't know that and stay just because the guard is talking to them.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: ratherbebig on March 20, 2017, 01:35:26 AM
more action than ufc
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Pray_4_War on March 20, 2017, 02:26:25 AM
I'm currently a security guard for a mall.

Wait, what?  I though you were a man of great intellect.  Shouldn't you be working for NASA?

I hope you are kidding, if not then I say "Observe and report".
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Skylge on March 20, 2017, 02:39:09 AM
If it's not your store, why even bother


Get shot or stabbed over a candy bar

Indeed. Probably best to have HQ photo and video stuff and let cops do the rest. Not worth getting into trouble over

I like the young lady's energy, great ass too. If she behaves a bit better she's GF material
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: falco on March 20, 2017, 06:45:08 AM
If this happened in Mother Russia, bitch would be slapped by the manager and then spanked by officer Danko.
America needs less lawyers and more judge Dredd's

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Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: WannaBePro on March 20, 2017, 07:03:55 AM
Didn't think a male officer is allowed hand search females
What if she identifies as a man? What are the rules then?
Better question is what if she identifies as an otherkin? Does an otherkin officer have to be present to hand search her? Many questions regarding this issue run around in my head now that SJW culture has spread like cancer in society.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Fortress on March 20, 2017, 07:55:12 AM
Wrong again. The only crime that was witnessed was the store employee assaulting the lady.

Fuck me running. HE has legal authority if HE indeed witnessed a crime being committed.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Fortress on March 20, 2017, 07:57:02 AM
So they can be called as a witness if the police make an arrest.  They can get license plates, try to ID someone so they can provide info to police, but thats about it in most cases.  Different stores have different policies and Rite Aid really has no policy.  That employee is fucked.

He won't be fucked from a legal standpoint.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: deadz on March 20, 2017, 09:54:37 AM
She deserves arrest and pepper sprayed etc... (just for the fact that she probably voted for Hillary alone), however it is ILLEGAL for a store employee to detain someone like that. 
Wrong. Just watch loss prevention apprehensions on YouTube. Macys loss prevention beats down shoplifters.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: mass243 on March 20, 2017, 11:31:43 AM
If this happened in Mother Russia, bitch would be slapped by the manager and then spanked by officer Danko.
America needs less lawyers and more judge Dredd's

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Unfortunately truth is stranger than fiction.
Discipline of Stalin is long gone. Shop guards don't even have guns and young fucks influenced by Disney-channel are joking on their expense.


Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: The True Adonis on March 20, 2017, 12:46:43 PM
Fuck me running. HE has legal authority if HE indeed witnessed a crime being committed.
Not really.  Especially if there is no evidence, then he is ultra fucked. 
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Simple Simon on March 20, 2017, 12:56:32 PM
Fuck me running. HE has legal authority if HE indeed witnessed a crime being committed.

Oddly enough a regular citizen has more authority to intervene and make a citizens arrest than the employee does.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: The True Adonis on March 20, 2017, 01:23:45 PM
Oddly enough a regular citizen has more authority to intervene and make a citizens arrest than the employee does.
Neither does.  You are mistaken.  A "citizen arrest" has MANY rules to be met before it is valid.  Clearly you do not know them.   ;)
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: The True Adonis on March 20, 2017, 01:26:42 PM
that wasn't "detain" that was "restrain", you can detain someone all you like, when someone is being detained they are free to leave at any time, its just some don't know that and stay just because the guard is talking to them.
Totally not true.

If you ask a police officer, "Am I being detained?" and he says "Yes".  You CANNOT go anywhere.  

Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Da Freak on March 20, 2017, 03:12:57 PM
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This also happened in Oregon where the video in this thread took place.

Manager fired from Gresham Rite Aid for grabbing shoplifter's bag

http://www.oregonlive.com/gresham/index.ssf/2015/04/manager_fired_from_gresham_rit.html

According to the lawsuit, Sartwell and the store manager saw a woman stuff some items in a bag, then walk past the register and security towers toward the doors without paying. Sartwell grabbed the woman's bag and told the woman to give up the goods, but the woman responded by pushing Sartwell twice in the chest, the suit states.

"Plaintiff moved the shoplifter from the door to the register and instructed the cashier Cassandra to call the police," the suit says. "The shoplifter then pulled a switchblade knife on Plaintiff, so Plaintiff let go of the bag and the shoplifter left the store with defendants' merchandise."

The suit says Sartwell and the cashier followed the woman outside and snapped photos of the car she got in and its license plates.

Six days later, Sartwell was fired -- in part for telling the cashier to call police, then talking to them after they arrived, her suit states.

Dumbericans.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: stuntmovie on March 20, 2017, 06:30:53 PM
I told this story numerous times on this GetBoard but here it is once again.....

Most likely a good way to make lots of money.

OnlyMe 'captured' two 'criminals' who were running amuck and threatening old timers doing some late for shopping in a major grocery store.

He grabbed one and sat on him until the cops arrived.

A few months later we learned that the same two criminals got a lawyer to sue the store and each of them walked away with $100,000 each because the store did not want to go through the legal expenses and most of all  .... they did not want the adverse publicity.

Keith was not fired because he didn't work there but still ...Im surprised that he was also not sued.

A good idea for a good number of GetBiggers I would assume,
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Skeeter on March 20, 2017, 07:01:54 PM
I thought the store clerk did a pretty good job of detaining her and keeping his composure(on video), although I'm not sure what the law would say.

But seriously, he was probably working for minimum wage. That's a lot of bullshit for no reward. Might as well let the fuckers rob the shit hole.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Danimal77 on March 21, 2017, 06:12:31 PM
a white trash whore, probably voted for hillary to

too*
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: SF1900 on March 21, 2017, 06:35:07 PM
Has getbig ever come to the decision if security guards can detain a person shoplifting?

With all the legal experts here, I am surprised nothing has been established.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on March 21, 2017, 06:35:43 PM
Should be arrested for touching a white woman.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: The True Adonis on March 21, 2017, 07:23:25 PM
Has getbig ever come to the decision if security guards can detain a person shoplifting?

With all the legal experts here, I am surprised nothing has been established.
Depends on many factors, but for the majority of the time, like in this video, the answer is no.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: SF1900 on March 21, 2017, 07:29:01 PM
Depends on many factors, but for the majority of the time, like in this video, the answer is no.

So the employee is screwed?
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: The True Adonis on March 21, 2017, 07:37:16 PM
So the employee is screwed?
Yes!
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: SF1900 on March 21, 2017, 08:40:20 PM
Yes!

I guess he should have just let her go.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: calfzilla on March 21, 2017, 08:45:01 PM
Has getbig ever come to the decision if security guards can detain a person shoplifting?

With all the legal experts here, I am surprised nothing has been established.

They can but they also have to follow their company policy. Many stores have a hands off policy because they see it as too much of a liability.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Hack Benchers on March 21, 2017, 10:35:21 PM
But eventually the cops show up.



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Lol check out the old lady at approx 4:20 just gazing and looking.
Btw how can cops in the usa be allowed to be so fat and still be on the force?
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Al Doggity on March 21, 2017, 10:53:59 PM
Has getbig ever come to the decision if security guards can detain a person shoplifting?


 ::) Of course they can. They do it all the time. Even in the article Baldy posted, ,there's nothing that says the manager did anything illegal. The manager was the one suing Rite Aid and the thief was sentenced to 5 years in jail.  The lawsuit even says there were most likely other reasons behind the firing. If Rite Aid decides to fire the guy, it's not because he did something illegal.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: The True Adonis on March 22, 2017, 02:27:05 PM
::) Of course they can. They do it all the time. Even in the article Baldy posted, ,there's nothing that says the manager did anything illegal. The manager was the one suing Rite Aid and the thief was sentenced to 5 years in jail.  The lawsuit even says there were most likely other reasons behind the firing. If Rite Aid decides to fire the guy, it's not because he did something illegal.
::)  Just one of many incidents where retail employees GO TO JAIL or are on SUSPENDED SENTENCES (threat of jail) for trying to restrain someone:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Shoplifting/comments/30dvfh/funny_lp_stories/


Now this is where the real fun starts: The LP guy (Hobo) stated that he had observed me put three items of a certain kind into my bag and not paying for them. I really only took one. Which was my luck, the one item was found, but since it was a fairly common household thing, couldn't be connected to the theft, the store, or even the chain. About a year after, I head to court, where I got cleared of everything for a lack of evidence. Me beating their asses was ruled as permissible self defense, mostly because the LP Hobo never identified himself as LP and I convinced the court he was just one of the alcoholics usually hanging out in front of the supermarket.

In a truly Shyamalan plot twist, some months later, I go to court again. This time as a witness in the case against the LP guy and the store owner. A few interesting facts, some about my jurisdiction:

    You CAN make a sort of citizens arrest here, but only if you witness a crime by someone, AND if the identity of the perpetrator is not known and can't be found out. If he shows you his drivers license, you have to let him go and let the police handle it.
    Hobo loss prevention guy never identified himself as loss prevention. The FIRST thing you should do, and he fucked it up.
    A lot of witnesses were present
    Both Hobo and store manager claimed that when they confronted me, I had flipped out and attacked them, the witnesses obviously discredited that.

The court argued that there was no proof that I had actually nicked something, but even if I really did, they broke the law since my identity was known to them (I shopped there for years) and the manager, by own admission, did not witness me taking any merchandise (necessary here to legally stop someone, if necessary by force, if you aren't law enforcement.)

In the end, they were both slapped with a VERY hefty fine and imprisonment set out on probation, since they both had no priors for agg assault (aggravated because they attacked from ambush and in a group, two qualifiers in my jurisdiction), attempted robbery (since they tried to rip my backpack off my back), attempt at unlawful detention, duress (attempting to hold me against my will) and, just for fun, damaging my backpack.

Although I really DID steal stuff, I feel like they fully deserved it. Just some wannabe Rambos thinking they finally get a chance to beat someone up because their wives won't fuck them anymore.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: SF1900 on March 22, 2017, 06:42:39 PM
::)  Just one of many incidents where retail employees GO TO JAIL or are on SUSPENDED SENTENCES (threat of jail) for trying to restrain someone:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Shoplifting/comments/30dvfh/funny_lp_stories/


Now this is where the real fun starts: The LP guy (Hobo) stated that he had observed me put three items of a certain kind into my bag and not paying for them. I really only took one. Which was my luck, the one item was found, but since it was a fairly common household thing, couldn't be connected to the theft, the store, or even the chain. About a year after, I head to court, where I got cleared of everything for a lack of evidence. Me beating their asses was ruled as permissible self defense, mostly because the LP Hobo never identified himself as LP and I convinced the court he was just one of the alcoholics usually hanging out in front of the supermarket.

In a truly Shyamalan plot twist, some months later, I go to court again. This time as a witness in the case against the LP guy and the store owner. A few interesting facts, some about my jurisdiction:

    You CAN make a sort of citizens arrest here, but only if you witness a crime by someone, AND if the identity of the perpetrator is not known and can't be found out. If he shows you his drivers license, you have to let him go and let the police handle it.
    Hobo loss prevention guy never identified himself as loss prevention. The FIRST thing you should do, and he fucked it up.
    A lot of witnesses were present
    Both Hobo and store manager claimed that when they confronted me, I had flipped out and attacked them, the witnesses obviously discredited that.

The court argued that there was no proof that I had actually nicked something, but even if I really did, they broke the law since my identity was known to them (I shopped there for years) and the manager, by own admission, did not witness me taking any merchandise (necessary here to legally stop someone, if necessary by force, if you aren't law enforcement.)

In the end, they were both slapped with a VERY hefty fine and imprisonment set out on probation, since they both had no priors for agg assault (aggravated because they attacked from ambush and in a group, two qualifiers in my jurisdiction), attempted robbery (since they tried to rip my backpack off my back), attempt at unlawful detention, duress (attempting to hold me against my will) and, just for fun, damaging my backpack.

Although I really DID steal stuff, I feel like they fully deserved it. Just some wannabe Rambos thinking they finally get a chance to beat someone up because their wives won't fuck them anymore.


Thanks for finding an answer, TA!
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Al Doggity on March 22, 2017, 07:29:10 PM
::)  Just one of many incidents where retail employees GO TO JAIL or are on SUSPENDED SENTENCES (threat of jail) for trying to restrain someone:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Shoplifting/comments/30dvfh/funny_lp_stories/


Are you serious? Your evidence is a post on reddit... from a user who made two posts? Suffice it to say,  ::) . Isn't this how you tied to prove there was a such thing as a cookie inspector, too?  :D

Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: The True Adonis on March 22, 2017, 08:27:50 PM

Are you serious? Your evidence is a post on reddit... from a user who made two posts? Suffice it to say,  ::) . Isn't this how you tied to prove there was a such thing as a cookie inspector, too?  :D


What would be acceptable evidence to meet your pathetic standard?  I ask because I am sure I can easily find whatever is needed to PWN you like always.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: TheAnimal on March 22, 2017, 08:41:15 PM
North Carolina

§ 15A-404.  Detention of offenders by private persons.

(a)        No Arrest; Detention Permitted. - No private person may arrest another person except as provided in G.S. 15A-405. A private person may detain another person as provided in this section.

(b)        When Detention Permitted. - A private person may detain another person when he has probable cause to believe that the person detained has committed in his presence:

(1)        A felony,

(2)        A breach of the peace,

(3)        A crime involving physical injury to another person, or

(4)        A crime involving theft or destruction of property.

(c)        Manner of Detention. - The detention must be in a reasonable manner considering the offense involved and the circumstances of the detention.

(d)       Period of Detention. - The detention may be no longer than the time required for the earliest of the following:

(1)        The determination that no offense has been committed.

(2)        Surrender of the person detained to a law-enforcement officer as provided in subsection (e).

(e)        Surrender to Officer. - A private person who detains another must immediately notify a law-enforcement officer and must, unless he releases the person earlier as required by subsection (d), surrender the person detained to the law-enforcement officer. (1973, c. 1286, s. 1.)

http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/BySection/Chapter_15A/GS_15A-404.html

California
Penal Code Section 837

A private person may arrest another:

1. For a public offense committed or attempted in his presence.

2. When the person arrested has committed a felony, although not in his presence.

3. When a felony has been in fact committed, and he has reasonable cause for believing the person arrested to have committed it.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=PEN&sectionNum=837.

Further reading:  The Protection and Recapture of Merchandise from Shoplifters, 47 NW. U. L. Rev. 82, 90 (1952) http://digitalcommons.law.umaryland.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1686&context=mlr

This:
They can but they also have to follow their company policy. Many stores have a hands off policy because they see it as too much of a liability.




Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: calfzilla on March 22, 2017, 09:53:07 PM
Shoplifting laws also vary greatly state to state.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Al Doggity on March 22, 2017, 10:02:38 PM
What would be acceptable evidence to meet your pathetic standard?  I ask because I am sure I can easily find whatever is needed to PWN you like always.

You said it was illegal for security guards to detain people - presumably you meant with physical force- so post two news articles discussing a security guard being arrested or sued for detaining someone with physical force within a store .  

I will make the same offer I made when you claimed to be a cookie inspector. If you post the articles, I will change my tagline to "Adonis Owned Me"  for the next month.

Conditions for the article:
-The article must be about a security guard or store employee being arrested or sued for detaining someone with physical force, not as a result of extenuating circumstances. For instance, if the employee is sued for causing injury to the suspect, that doesn't count because even leos can be sued for causing injury during a detainment. Or if the security guard pulls a gun on a suspect and is arrested, obviously that is outside store policy.

-Article has to be presented as a reasonably legitimate news item. A blog post is fine as long as the blog is updated at least weekdaily and names the participants.


 
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: The True Adonis on March 22, 2017, 10:15:07 PM
You said it was illegal for security guards to detain people - presumably you meant with physical force- so post two news articles discussing a security guard being arrested or sued for detaining someone with physical force within a store .  

I will make the same offer I made when you claimed to be a cookie inspector. If you post the articles, I will change my tagline to "Adonis Owned Me"  for the next month.

Conditions for the article:
-The article must be about a security guard or store employee being arrested or sued for detaining someone with physical force, not as a result of extenuating circumstances. For instance, if the employee is sued for causing injury to the suspect, that doesn't count because even leos can be sued for causing injury during a detainment. Or if the security guard pulls a gun on a suspect and is arrested, obviously that is outside store policy.

-Article has to be presented as a reasonably legitimate news item. A blog post is fine as long as the blog is updated at least weekdaily and names the participants.


 
1. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/walmart-employees-charged-manslaughter-shoplifter-dies-article-1.2731489
Three Florida Walmart employees who detained man shoplifting DVDs charged with manslaughter after he dies
(http://static.lakana.com/media.fox13news.com/photo/2016/07/29/walmart%20employees_1469818809425_1779685_ver1.0_640_360.jpg)

 Three employees at a Florida Walmart have been arrested in connection with the death of a shoplifter.

Nathan Higgins, 35, Crucelis Nunez, 23, and Randall Tomko, 58, were each charged with manslaughter in the death of Kenneth Wisham, 64, after he tried to leave the store with a shopping cart filled with nearly $400 worth of DVDs, police said.

"If you are shoplifting there is a result that you have to pay, it should not result in losing your life," police spokesman Sgt. Gary Gross told ABC station WFTS-TV.

On Feb. 7, employees attempted to stop Wisham from exiting the Lakeland store after he tripped the security alarm, according to the police report.


When employees asked to see his receipt, Wisham patted his pants pretending to look for one. After Wisham could not produce a receipt, he left the shopping cart and fled outside.

Tomko and Nunez chased Wisham until he fell to the ground, the report said. Tomko told police he never touched Wisham and that after he fell, he noticed he'd stopped breathing and had another employee call 911.

But Nunez said Tomko and Higgins jumped on top of Wisham after she "slightly pushed" him, the report said. Tomko lunged on top of his upper body while Higgins restrained his legs.

Wisham struggled underneath the two employees and yelled, "Get off of me. I didn't do anything."



When police arrived, the employee who called 911 was performing chest compressions on Wisham.

Wisham died from suffocation after he was forced into a position where he could not breathe, Bay News 9 reported.

An autopsy revealed he had 15 broken ribs.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Al Doggity on March 22, 2017, 10:22:02 PM
As I said in my previous post (which you quoted):

Conditions for the article:
-The article must be about a security guard or store employee being arrested or sued for detaining someone with physical force, not as a result of extenuating circumstances. For instance, if the employee is sued for causing injury to the suspect, that doesn't count because even leos can be sued for causing injury during a detainment. Or if the security guard pulls a gun on a suspect and is arrested, obviously that is outside store policy.


In the article you posted, the employees were not arrested for detaining the guy. They were arrested because the cpr they tried to do on him killed him.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: The True Adonis on March 22, 2017, 10:26:50 PM
2.
https://consumerist.com/2015/09/18/cvs-employee-charged-with-assault-for-dragging-suspected-shoplifter-back-into-store/

 
CVS Employee Charged With Assault For Dragging Suspected Shoplifter Back Into Store
By Laura Northrup@lnorthrup September 18, 2015


A CVS customer tried to return some batteries without a receipt, and was told that she wouldn’t be allowed to. Oh, well: she went to leave the store with her merchandise, and an unidentified man dragged her back inside the store. He was a CVS loss prevention officer, it turns out, but she claims he didn’t identify himself.

The CVS employee took the aspiring battery-returner’s purse and merchandise, but didn’t take her phone, which is how she was able to dial 9-1-1. Her boyfriend, who was waiting in the car, also saw a man grab her and drag her back inside the store, and he followed them back in.

“I grabbed her hand and that’s when they attacked me,” her boyfriend told TV station KHOU. (Warning: auto-play video)

One would think that police would take the side of loss prevention when they arrived on the scene, but the cops watched surveillance video and ended up arresting the loss prevention officer, not the suspected shoplifter. Police said that he has been charged with assault.

CVS, in a statement, said that they’e investigating the incident:

    CVS/pharmacy has specific policies and procedures for interacting with customers who are suspected of shoplifting that are designed to protect the safety of both our employees and our customers. We are fully investigating the incident that occurred at our Westheimer Road store yesterday afternoon. The employee who was involved in this incident will be suspended pending the outcome of our investigation.

Meanwhile, the drugstore chain does accept returns without a receipt, but only if the customer provides ID and with the approval of a manager.

Local CVS employee charged with assaulting customer [KHOU] (Warning: auto-play video)
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: The True Adonis on March 22, 2017, 10:28:08 PM
2.
https://consumerist.com/2015/09/18/cvs-employee-charged-with-assault-for-dragging-suspected-shoplifter-back-into-store/

 
CVS Employee Charged With Assault For Dragging Suspected Shoplifter Back Into Store
By Laura Northrup@lnorthrup September 18, 2015


A CVS customer tried to return some batteries without a receipt, and was told that she wouldn’t be allowed to. Oh, well: she went to leave the store with her merchandise, and an unidentified man dragged her back inside the store. He was a CVS loss prevention officer, it turns out, but she claims he didn’t identify himself.

The CVS employee took the aspiring battery-returner’s purse and merchandise, but didn’t take her phone, which is how she was able to dial 9-1-1. Her boyfriend, who was waiting in the car, also saw a man grab her and drag her back inside the store, and he followed them back in.

“I grabbed her hand and that’s when they attacked me,” her boyfriend told TV station KHOU. (Warning: auto-play video)

One would think that police would take the side of loss prevention when they arrived on the scene, but the cops watched surveillance video and ended up arresting the loss prevention officer, not the suspected shoplifter. Police said that he has been charged with assault.

CVS, in a statement, said that they’e investigating the incident:

    CVS/pharmacy has specific policies and procedures for interacting with customers who are suspected of shoplifting that are designed to protect the safety of both our employees and our customers. We are fully investigating the incident that occurred at our Westheimer Road store yesterday afternoon. The employee who was involved in this incident will be suspended pending the outcome of our investigation.

Meanwhile, the drugstore chain does accept returns without a receipt, but only if the customer provides ID and with the approval of a manager.

Local CVS employee charged with assaulting customer [KHOU] (Warning: auto-play video)

http://www.khou.com/news/local/local-cvs-employee-charged-with-assaulting-customer/142464403
Local CVS employee charged with assaulting customer

The victim said she was wrongly accused of shoplifting at a local CVS and was assaulted by one of the employees.
Jacqueline Crea and KHOU 11 News , KHOU 11:37 PM. CDT September 17, 2015

(Photo: KHOU 11 News)
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HOUSTON - A woman was mistakenly pegged as a shoplifter and violently dragged to a back room at a West Houston CVS store Wednesday afternoon, according to police.

Twenty-four-year-old Alexandria Benton told KHOU 11 News the incident went on for several minutes without the employee identifying himself as a Loss Prevention employee.

"I don't want to be alone with you. He said no you're going in this room and he picked me up and threw me in there," said Benton.

Benton said she was just trying to return batteries at the CVS located at S. Voss Rd near Westheimer, without a receipt. She said a store employee told her it wasn't allowed, so she decided to come back another time.

"When I got outside the door, this gentleman grabbed me and pulled me back inside," said Benton."I asked what was going on. He ripped my stuff out of my hand, my wallet and my bag."

Alexandria managed to hold on to her cell phone that she used to call 911.

Benton's boyfriend Nicholas Hamilton, who was waiting in the car, said he could see someone violently dragging Alexandria to the back of the store, so he ran inside.

"She grabbed her hand out and I didn't think about it. I grabbed her hand and that's when they attacked me," said Hamilton.

Alexandria said other employees also jumped in, and during the scuffle, the man who grabbed her, finally identified himself as a CVS Loss Prevention employee.

"I kept telling him I didn't take anything. You can ask the person at the front and he wouldn't listen to me. He kept saying stop resisting," said Benton.

After reviewing surveillance video, police decided the Loss Prevention Officer, identified as Simon Rutherford, was in the wrong and arrested and charged him with assault.

Benton and Hamilton were free to go, leaving CVS with more than they came for.

"That's the tip of his shoe. I got a burn right there," said Hamilton, as he pointed to his injuries and ripped shirt.

Turns out it wasn't the first time a store employee has roughed up a suspected shoplifter.

A shopper sent cell phone video to KHOU taken a few months back, showing a similar situation. A woman is seen screaming and being dragged to the back of the store then forced into a room. CVS did not provide comment on that incident.

Benson and her boyfriend however said they won't be going back anytime soon.

"Nobody is supposed to put their hands on you like that, maybe a police officer. But I really think he overstepped his boundaries and he hurt two innocent people that weren't trying to do anything wrong," said Benton.

The couple plans to file charges against the store. A CVS spokesperson sent this statement to KHOU 11 News:

CVS/pharmacy has specific policies and procedures for interacting with customers who are suspected of shoplifting that are designed to protect the safety of both our employees and our customers. We are fully investigating the incident that occurred at our Westheimer Road store yesterday afternoon. The employee who was involved in this incident will be suspended pending the outcome of our investigation. -Mike DeAngelis, CVS/Pharmacy Director, Public Relations
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Al Doggity on March 22, 2017, 10:40:23 PM
Okay, that's one. Both of those articles are about the same incident. I would dispute it under different circumstances, but it fits the criteria I posted.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Al Doggity on March 22, 2017, 10:58:15 PM
Actually, after looking into it a little further, that story actually doesn't fit the criteria.
http://www.click2houston.com/news/cvs-employee-accused-of-assaulting-man-at-store

Quote
Authorities said the woman tried to leave the store, but was approached by Rutherford, a loss prevention employee at CVS. Officials said Rutherford demanded the woman go back into the store.

Houston police said the woman's boyfriend went inside the store to see what was happening and got into a scuffle with Rutherford. Rutherford is accused of assaulting the man.

So, the security guard wasn't arrested for detaining the woman, but for getting into a fight with the boyfriend.

So, that's 0-2.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: The True Adonis on March 22, 2017, 11:07:57 PM
Okay, that's one. Both of those articles are about the same incident. I would dispute it under different circumstances, but it fits the criteria I posted.
How many more would you like?

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Shoplifter-Claims-He-Was-Beaten-by-Frys-Electronics-Store-Security-Guard-191496811.html


Shoplifter Claims He Was Beaten by Store Security Guard
The beating was so severe, the victim was left with a traumatic brain injury

By Paul Krueger

A San Diego man is paying a huge price for shoplifting. He claims he was caught and allegedly physically beaten by a store security guard.

Now, that shoplifter – local resident Kevin Hoopfer – could get millions of dollars from a jury.
Shoplifter Claims He Was Beaten by Store Security Guard

[size=pt]A San Diego jury is considering if an admitted shoplifter get more than five million dollars for injuries inflicted by a store security guard.[/size]
(Published Saturday, March 2, 2013)

Hoopfer admits he stole a laser pointer in September 2010 from the Fry’s Electronics in Murphy Canyon.

But his lawyer alleges a security guard went wild when he caught Hoopfer with that stolen merchandise.

“He walked outside, the security guard rushed up behind him, grabbed him, pressed his arms to his side, spun him around, turned him around and piled-drived him head-first into the concrete," Hoopfer’s attorney Julie Parker told NBC 7 in an exclusive interview.

Parker says security guard Eric Ayala continued to physically abuse her client, in a Fry’s interview room, after that beating.

She told the jury in the civil case now underway at San Diego’s downtown Hall of Justice that Hoopfer had worked as an IT and computer repair specialist prior to the beating.

"Very smart, very capable, and now he looks at a computer and doesn't know where to start," the attorney said.

Today, jurors heard testimony from a neurologist, who said that beating left Hoopfer with a traumatic brain injury.

Hoopfer’s symptoms include headaches and depression.

His lawyer says Hoopfer now lives in a care-home, and has difficulties setting goals, planning and solving problems.

"So he is really unable to function as a human being," Parker told NBC 7.

She says life-time care from that violent incident will cost more than $5 million.

Defense attorneys declined NBC 7’s request for an interview.

But Fry's Electronics issued a statement, telling NBC 7:

"Fry’s strongly disputes plaintiff’s allegations in this action, and is presenting its case to a jury and the court. The plaintiff was convicted of shoplifting in connection with this very incident, and his alleged injuries arose while he was fleeing the scene of the crime. Fry’s respects the judicial process and will defer any further comment until after the verdict. We trust the jury will return a just verdict, one which will not reward theft by a convicted shoplifter against a family-owned business and law-abiding shoppers."

Parker told the jury her client admitted stealing that $35 item, and accepted the consequences by pleading guilty at a criminal hearing.

"But a loss prevention guy is not allowed to be judge, jury and executioner for petty theft," she argues.

The trial has two parts.

Parker says the jury has already agreed the security guard was negligent and committed assault and battery on Hoopfer. Based on that conviction, the defense wants has offered to pay a maximum $100,000 settlement.

Jurors heard closing arguments on March 1. The defense argued that Hoopfer resisted efforts to surrender the item and cited expert testimony claiming that he is not actually brain damaged.

Hoopfer's lawyers said that he will need $5 million from Fry's for medical expenses, plus an additional $20-25 million for emotional damage in addition to pain and suffering. They also allege that Fry's destroyed the security tapes, saying the company has a history of attacking shoplifters.

The jury will soon decide how much, if anything, Hoopfer should get for his injuries.
Published at 7:25 PM PST on Feb 15, 2013 | Updated at 9:43 PM PST on Mar 1, 2013

Source: http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Shoplifter-Claims-He-Was-Beaten-by-Frys-Electronics-Store-Security-Guard-191496811.html#ixzz4c7tfEQq0
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Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: The True Adonis on March 22, 2017, 11:09:56 PM
How many more would you like?

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Shoplifter-Claims-He-Was-Beaten-by-Frys-Electronics-Store-Security-Guard-191496811.html


Shoplifter Claims He Was Beaten by Store Security Guard
The beating was so severe, the victim was left with a traumatic brain injury

By Paul Krueger

A San Diego man is paying a huge price for shoplifting. He claims he was caught and allegedly physically beaten by a store security guard.

Now, that shoplifter – local resident Kevin Hoopfer – could get millions of dollars from a jury.
Shoplifter Claims He Was Beaten by Store Security Guard

[size=pt]A San Diego jury is considering if an admitted shoplifter get more than five million dollars for injuries inflicted by a store security guard.[/size]
(Published Saturday, March 2, 2013)

Hoopfer admits he stole a laser pointer in September 2010 from the Fry’s Electronics in Murphy Canyon.

But his lawyer alleges a security guard went wild when he caught Hoopfer with that stolen merchandise.

“He walked outside, the security guard rushed up behind him, grabbed him, pressed his arms to his side, spun him around, turned him around and piled-drived him head-first into the concrete," Hoopfer’s attorney Julie Parker told NBC 7 in an exclusive interview.

Parker says security guard Eric Ayala continued to physically abuse her client, in a Fry’s interview room, after that beating.

She told the jury in the civil case now underway at San Diego’s downtown Hall of Justice that Hoopfer had worked as an IT and computer repair specialist prior to the beating.

"Very smart, very capable, and now he looks at a computer and doesn't know where to start," the attorney said.

Today, jurors heard testimony from a neurologist, who said that beating left Hoopfer with a traumatic brain injury.

Hoopfer’s symptoms include headaches and depression.

His lawyer says Hoopfer now lives in a care-home, and has difficulties setting goals, planning and solving problems.

"So he is really unable to function as a human being," Parker told NBC 7.

She says life-time care from that violent incident will cost more than $5 million.

Defense attorneys declined NBC 7’s request for an interview.

But Fry's Electronics issued a statement, telling NBC 7:

"Fry’s strongly disputes plaintiff’s allegations in this action, and is presenting its case to a jury and the court. The plaintiff was convicted of shoplifting in connection with this very incident, and his alleged injuries arose while he was fleeing the scene of the crime. Fry’s respects the judicial process and will defer any further comment until after the verdict. We trust the jury will return a just verdict, one which will not reward theft by a convicted shoplifter against a family-owned business and law-abiding shoppers."

Parker told the jury her client admitted stealing that $35 item, and accepted the consequences by pleading guilty at a criminal hearing.

"But a loss prevention guy is not allowed to be judge, jury and executioner for petty theft," she argues.

The trial has two parts.

Parker says the jury has already agreed the security guard was negligent and committed assault and battery on Hoopfer. Based on that conviction, the defense wants has offered to pay a maximum $100,000 settlement.

Jurors heard closing arguments on March 1. The defense argued that Hoopfer resisted efforts to surrender the item and cited expert testimony claiming that he is not actually brain damaged.

Hoopfer's lawyers said that he will need $5 million from Fry's for medical expenses, plus an additional $20-25 million for emotional damage in addition to pain and suffering. They also allege that Fry's destroyed the security tapes, saying the company has a history of attacking shoplifters.

The jury will soon decide how much, if anything, Hoopfer should get for his injuries.
Published at 7:25 PM PST on Feb 15, 2013 | Updated at 9:43 PM PST on Mar 1, 2013

Source: http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Shoplifter-Claims-He-Was-Beaten-by-Frys-Electronics-Store-Security-Guard-191496811.html#ixzz4c7tfEQq0
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http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Settlement-Reached-in-Shoplifter-Frys-Electronics-Lawsuit-195398511.html

Settlement Reached in Shoplifter, Fry's Electronics Lawsuit
The beating was so severe, the victim was left with a traumatic brain injury
By Paul Krueger and R. Stickney

The San Diego man who suffered brain damage when an electronics store security guard assaulted  him after shoplifting has agreed to a settlement in his civil case.

Kevin Hoopfer stole a $35 laser pointer in September 2010 from the Fry’s Electronics in Murphy Canyon.
Shoplifter Claims He Was Beaten by Store Security Guard
[DGO] Shoplifter Claims He Was Beaten by Store Security Guard
A San Diego jury is considering if an admitted shoplifter get more than five million dollars for injuries inflicted by a store security guard.
(Published Saturday, March 2, 2013)

Attorneys for the former IT and computer repair specialist said he was jumped by a store security guard and thrown head-first onto the concrete, causing traumatic brain injury.

Moments before jurors were to return with damages in the civil trial, Hoopfer reached a settlement with Fry’s. The terms of the settlement were not disclosed.

Jury foreperson Camille Davidson said that they had decided to give Hoopfer $10 million total for medical costs, pain and suffering -- plus lost earnings. Jurors had also agreed to go on to a second phase of the trial where they would decide additional punitive damages.

“We felt that the punishment did not fit the crime," said Davidson. "You know, he stole an item worth less than $40. He could have been asked to come back into the store. He could have been just asked to hand it over. Anything should have happened rather than him being physically assaulted.”


She also said the jury believed the Fry’s security guard was wrong to take Hoopfer to the ground without first asking him to give up the item.

“I frankly think that your ability to function is priceless," Davidson said. "And so there's no amount of money that's going to be able to compensate him for the damage not only to his physical self, but to his life.”

In the lawsuit, Hoopfer’s attorneys said life-time care for her client would cost more than $5 million. The plaintiff sought an additional $20-25 million for emotional damage in addition to pain and suffering.

Hoopfer now lives in a care-home and has difficulties setting goals, planning and solving problems according to his attorney. His symptoms include headaches and depression.

Jurors had already agreed the security guard was negligent and committed assault and battery however the defense argued that Hoopfer resisted efforts to surrender the item.

Fry’s also cited expert testimony claiming that he is not actually brain damaged. The defense had offered to pay a maximum $100,000 settlement before the case went to the jury.

Instead of taking their chances with the jury, which had deliberated for three days, both sides just hours ago agreed to the confidential settlement.
Published at 4:33 PM PST on Mar 5, 2013 | Updated at 2:26 PM PST on Mar 6, 2013

Source: http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Settlement-Reached-in-Shoplifter-Frys-Electronics-Lawsuit-195398511.html#ixzz4c7ucQh8n
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Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: The True Adonis on March 22, 2017, 11:11:06 PM
Actually, after looking into it a little further, that story actually doesn't fit the criteria.
http://www.click2houston.com/news/cvs-employee-accused-of-assaulting-man-at-store

So, the security guard wasn't arrested for detaining the woman, but for getting into a fight with the boyfriend.

So, that's 0-2.
Look, you lost.

I can post these all day long.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: The True Adonis on March 22, 2017, 11:16:44 PM
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/11/walgreens_must_pay_ne_portland.html

Walgreens must pay NE Portland mother and son in case over shoplifting accusations, jury says

on November 20, 2013 at 7:55 PM, updated November 21, 2013 at 8:52 AM

Walgreens should pay a Northeast Portland mother and son $67,000 for false arrest, a Multnomah County jury found Wednesday, after an assistant store manager’s accusations that the mother shoplifted makeup prompted a police investigation.

[size=pt]The verdict comes about a year and a half after the May 2012 incident, in which the two said they felt publicly humiliated as acquaintances saw police detain Teresa White and her son, Deante Strickland, as a result of the accusations from assistant manager Wendy Marceau. Marceau had told 911 dispatchers that White had concealed about 15 items of makeup in her purse and that her son was acting as “the lookout.”

Police verified that neither White nor Strickland had any stolen merchandise on them or in White’s purse. But an officer kept them at the front of the store for another 30 minutes while Marceau took another police officer to review surveillance video. After viewing the video, the officer told the mother and son they were free to go, writing in her report that there was “not any evidence (White) had taken anything.”[/size]

 
Portland resident Teresa White wins Walgreens false arrest case Teresa White talks about winning her civil case against Walgreens for false arrest and the message a verdict should send to retailers. Her son, Deante Strickland, was detained with her when an assistant store manager accused them of theft and called police.
The verdict includes $25,000 for White; $10,000 for Strickland, who was 15 at the time; and $16,000 each in punitive damages. The amount was far less than what the plaintiffs sought, but White and Strickland both expressed satisfaction in the verdict.


“I wanted to fight for what I knew was right,” White said. “We didn’t do anything wrong.”

In an email, Walgreens spokesman Jim Graham said the company appreciates “the work the jury did, and we will consider our post-trial options.” In court, Nicholas Kampars, attorney for Marceau and Walgreens, had argued that "no one should be sued for making a mistake." He contended that giving wrong information to a 911 operator did not qualify as "instigating" their detention.

The incident occurred on a Friday evening after White picked up her son from a friend’s house. Strickland, who is now a starting point guard for Central Catholic High School, had just finished basketball practice with another team and was wearing his red uniform. White was “dressed down,” she said, with a black fleece jacket and black pants with polka dots.

They stopped at the Walgreens at Northeast Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard and Ainsworth Street, White testified. While there, she looked at several of the nail polishes on shelves of a cosmetic counter, searching for a mint green. She picked up several, looked at them, and replaced them, she said. Her son got some candy, then they picked out soft drinks.

But after paying for their items, a police officer stopped them as they headed to their car, saying they were suspected of shoplifting. The officer asked them to return to the store.

White declared repeatedly that she did not steal, she testified. After the officer insisted she show her purse, White dumped the contents on the floor near the entrance. Marceau then insisted the officer check her pockets, White testified. The officer still did not find any merchandise on either of them.

Marceau then said, “I have you on videotape,” in an accusatory fashion, White testified. As another officer arrived to stay with the mother and son, the responding officer reviewed the tape, finding nothing to suggest shoplifting, the officer testified in a deposition. The surveillance video was not kept or copied onto a CD, and was recorded over after about three months, a Walgreens loss-prevention manager testified.

Marceau disputed White’s testimony, saying she saw White conceal several items under her arm or in the area of her purse. White was “fumbling” with products and seemed to not put back as many products as she was taking off the shelves, Marceau said.

Marceau, who was a named defendant in addition to Walgreens, also denied saying anything to urge the officer to search White or Strickland.
While detained, both plaintiffs said they were worried about their reputation. Strickland, nephew of Jefferson High School basketball coach Pat Strickland, was concerned when he saw a player for another team at Walgreens. He worried that a photo on social media of him being stopped by a police officer would hurt his dream of playing Division I basketball.

White, who is African American, testified that she felt Marceau racially profiled her, viewing her touching and looking at items as suspicious when it would be normal shopping behavior for others.

The plaintiffs’ attorneys, Greg Kafoury and his son, Jason, sought to show that the problem extends beyond White and her son and that hundreds of people may be detained on a regular basis because of Walgreens practices. During the trial, they played testimony from Marceau’s deposition in which she said she called police a few times a week on suspected shoplifters. Those calls have resulted in arrests only “a few” times, she said.

She amended her testimony in court this week, saying she meant that she called police two to three times a week for many kinds of situations, not just suspected theft.

“This case is about more than shopping while black,” said Greg Kafoury. Walgreens, as a business decision, fails to employ security guards at each store and instead “uses the Portland police as their private security force, and this is an abuse of customers, of taxpayers and of those who need the police to be able to respond to emergencies.”

-- Helen Jung
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: The True Adonis on March 22, 2017, 11:17:32 PM
There are tons of these.

You lost.  Change your tag line.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Al Doggity on March 22, 2017, 11:20:31 PM
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Settlement-Reached-in-Shoplifter-Frys-Electronics-Lawsuit-195398511.html

Settlement Reached in Shoplifter, Fry's Electronics Lawsuit
The beating was so severe, the victim was left with a traumatic brain injury
By Paul Krueger and R. Stickney


I was already aware of this, but you are really not good at reading comprehension.
Once again, CONDITIONS FOR THE ARTICLE:

-The article must be about a security guard or store employee being arrested or sued for detaining someone with physical force, not as a result of extenuating circumstances. For instance, if the employee is sued for causing injury to the suspect, that doesn't count because
even leos can be sued for causing injury during a detainment.

THIS ARTICLE IS ABOUT A GUY WHO SUED FOR RECEIVING BRAIN DAMAGE!
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: The True Adonis on March 22, 2017, 11:20:52 PM
You said it was illegal for security guards to detain people - presumably you meant with physical force- so post two news articles discussing a security guard being arrested or sued for detaining someone with physical force within a store .  

I will make the same offer I made when you claimed to be a cookie inspector. If you post the articles, I will change my tagline to "Adonis Owned Me"  for the next month.

Conditions for the article:
-The article must be about a security guard or store employee being arrested or sued for detaining someone with physical force, not as a result of extenuating circumstances. For instance, if the employee is sued for causing injury to the suspect, that doesn't count because even leos can be sued for causing injury during a detainment. Or if the security guard pulls a gun on a suspect and is arrested, obviously that is outside store policy.

-Article has to be presented as a reasonably legitimate news item. A blog post is fine as long as the blog is updated at least weekdaily and names the participants.


 
You lose again:

https://consumerist.com/2006/04/03/shoplifting-grandma-gets-12-mil-from-macys/

 
Shoplifting’ Grandma Gets $1.2 Mil From Macy’s
By consumerist.com April 3, 2006

A jury has awarded $1.2 million to a woman falsely accused of shoplifting at Macy’s in Georgia.

Patricia Johnson bought some clothing for her terminally ill son, who later died. As she exited, she stopped at a shirt table, pulled out a pair of shorts from the bag of clothes, trying to see if they would match the shirt. Deciding no, she put the tagged shorts back in her bag and left.

Thereafter, she walked to her car and two plainclothes detectives intercepted her. Jackson tried to show her receipt but the detectives refused to see it and told her to follow them to the detention center.

Stories of women abducted and killed in the same parking lot flashed through Jackson’s mind. She refused. She wanted to call the police on her cell phone. The detectives said no, took her cell phone, handcuffed her and brough her inside. In the detention cetner she was patted down and handcuffed to a metal bar. Jackson began crying, askeing to call the police or her husband. She was not allowed either. A detective read her a statement saying she was guilty of shoplifting and banned from Macy’s.

She held for 15 more minutes until the detectives matched her receipt with the items in her bag. Jackson was released. The manager said she could receive a discount on the clothes she bought.

Patricia instead opted to sue the store and was awarded $1.2 million in a settlement reached last Thursday. The grandmother is said to be so traumatized by the incident that she won’t go shopping by herself.

Read more: “Jury awards woman $1.2M” [Ledger-Enquirer] (Thanks to Bard!)
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: The True Adonis on March 22, 2017, 11:21:51 PM
I was already aware of this, but you are really not good at reading comprehension.
Once again, CONDITIONS FOR THE ARTICLE:

-The article must be about a security guard or store employee being arrested or sued for detaining someone with physical force, not as a result of extenuating circumstances. For instance, if the employee is sued for causing injury to the suspect, that doesn't count because
even leos can be sued for causing injury during a detainment.

THIS ARTICLE IS ABOUT A GUY WHO SUED FOR RECEIVING BRAIN DAMAGE!
God your dumb. 
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Al Doggity on March 22, 2017, 11:23:08 PM
But after paying for their items, a police officer stopped them as they headed to their car, saying they were suspected of shoplifting. The officer asked them to return to the store.


A police officer is a security guard? Police officers aren't allowed to make arrests?  ::)
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: The True Adonis on March 22, 2017, 11:24:12 PM
You lose again.

https://www.calaborlaw.com/walgreen%E2%80%99s-customer-wins-21-million-jury-award-for-false-arrest-negligence/

Walgreen’s Customer Wins $2.1 Million Jury Award for False Arrest, Negligence
Posted by Eugene Lee • 0 Comments

Fellow attorney Jim DeSimone and his associate, Do Kim, report a $2.1 mil. award to a plaintiff in a false arrest, negligence and Ralph Act civil rights case against Walgreens and private security contractor, S&J Security. The case went to trial before a jury in Los Angeles Superior Court. Omar Ray was a twice-convicted felon who worked for S&J Security, which was in turn hired by Walgreens. Mr. Ray spotted a Walgreens customer whom he claimed was stealing drinks. In fact, the customer was helping a friend, plaintiff Alicia Benham, RETURN the drinks because they had gone bad. Mr. Ray detained the customer and Ms. Benham. He then spent the next hour and a half bullying, threatening, and forcibly manhandling Ms. Benham, after which he then led Ms. Benham out of the store in handcuffs. Ms. Benham later testified that she was terrified and feared she was going to be raped. In the ensuing police investigation, Mr. Ray gave a false name and lied about events. Mr. Ray did not show up for his deposition or the trial. Congratulations to Mr. DeSimone and Mr. Kim on a hard-fought victory. These kinds of cases show what happens when a company fails to do an adequate background check on employees.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Al Doggity on March 22, 2017, 11:24:32 PM
Thereafter, she walked to her car and two plainclothes detectives intercepted her. Jackson tried to show her receipt but the detectives refused to see it and told her to follow them to the detention center.



Once again, I guess it's illegal for police officers to make arrests?   ::)
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: The True Adonis on March 22, 2017, 11:26:45 PM
Once again, I guess it's illegal for police officers to make arrests?   ::)
You are a loser.  Ask anyone who comes on this thread who is right and who is wrong here.  You PWNED yourself.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Al Doggity on March 22, 2017, 11:28:04 PM
You lose again.

https://www.calaborlaw.com/walgreen%E2%80%99s-customer-wins-21-million-jury-award-for-false-arrest-negligence/

Walgreen’s Customer Wins $2.1 Million Jury Award for False Arrest, Negligence
Posted by Eugene Lee • 0 Comments


LOL I guess you're in copypaste meltdown mode now haha. I guess my tagline is safe  :-*
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: The True Adonis on March 22, 2017, 11:29:47 PM
LOL I guess you're in copypaste meltdown mode now haha. I guess my tagline is safe  :-*
Repeat after me.  You are a loser.  hahahahah

Just pathetic.  Everyone who comes on this thread will see just how much of a worthless dumbass you are.  I will keep this one at the top for sure.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Al Doggity on March 22, 2017, 11:30:51 PM
You are a loser.  Ask anyone who comes on this thread who is right and who is wrong here.  You PWNED yourself.


You didn't post ONE article in which a security guard was sued or arrested for detaining someone.  ::) You did do what you always do, though, post giant walls of text that you assumed no one would read.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: The True Adonis on March 22, 2017, 11:45:17 PM

You didn't post ONE article in which a security guard was sued or arrested for detaining someone.  ::) You did do what you always do, though, post giant walls of text that you assumed no one would read.
I encourage EVERYONE to read them.  That way they will know what a loser you are in case they did not already know. hahahha
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Tapeworm on March 23, 2017, 06:10:48 PM

Are you serious? Your evidence is a post on reddit... from a user who made two posts? Suffice it to say,  ::) . Isn't this how you tied to prove there was a such thing as a cookie inspector, too?  :D



There were but the cookie game is a money train that no one wants to stop.  In '98 I personally got asked to handle a troublesome inspector by two elves and a pilsbury doughboy.  Said they needed him to be an example.  They're not so adorable when they're telling you to kill a man and his entire family. 

Just eat your cookies and keep pretending the world is a wonderful place.
Title: Re: Evil woman shoplifts in store and assaults worker
Post by: Al Doggity on March 24, 2017, 01:21:52 PM
There were but the cookie game is a money train that no one wants to stop.  In '98 I personally got asked to handle a troublesome inspector by two elves and a pilsbury doughboy.  Said they needed him to be an example.  They're not so adorable when they're telling you to kill a man and his entire family.  

Just eat your cookies and keep pretending the world is a wonderful place.

That's why I only fucks wit Le Petit Ecolier. If you can't trust a little white  schoolboy, who can you trust?