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Title: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders
Post by: Taffin on March 22, 2017, 12:47:19 PM
Ironic, since Romano spends the first 5 minutes talking like a man that's just snorted a fat line of Ritalin  :P

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Post by: Nether Animal on March 22, 2017, 12:51:57 PM
Why do you think he lived in Mexico for a time? Not for the weather.
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Post by: WannaBePro on March 22, 2017, 01:09:05 PM
Why do you think he lived in Mexico for a time? Not for the weather.

He sold gear legally out of his gym there. Low cost of living, and the weather helps. Plus, I think he was in some legal trouble in the US for a while there. But he's all clear now, I guess, since he's in North Carolina most of the time.
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Post by: Notomorrow on March 22, 2017, 01:31:32 PM
I lived in Guadalajara for  3 years and train at Johns place(was a Golds franchise now called Gym Guadalajara).  I've met him several times. Legit Sustanon and Deca you can get at regular pharmacy...hgh by Pisa is very available.in Guadalajara....

So not sure why Romano would "sell" anything. Just advises bodybuilders there. There are some pretty jacked guys but more than anything huge ass implant fitness chicks and John is or was even married to one.
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Post by: _bruce_ on March 22, 2017, 01:43:03 PM
Soon John will rock the ass implants.
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Post by: Mitch on March 22, 2017, 03:10:20 PM
Palumbo looks like the last waxwork from Madame Tussauds. :-\
Romano looks like your average drunk hobo.  :-\

Dudes are so dead inside and outside, even Death doesn't want them anymore.
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Post by: Kwon on March 22, 2017, 03:13:21 PM
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Post by: Stakkers on March 22, 2017, 06:47:29 PM
Is Romano still married?
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Post by: calfzilla on March 22, 2017, 07:04:36 PM
I lived in Guadalajara for  3 years and train at Johns place(was a Golds franchise now called Gym Guadalajara).  I've met him several times. Legit Sustanon and Deca you can get at regular pharmacy...hgh by Pisa is very available.in Guadalajara....

So not sure why Romano would "sell" anything. Just advises bodybuilders there. There are some pretty jacked guys but more than anything huge ass implant fitness chicks and John is or was even married to one.

Hi John Romano. I really enjoyed reading your articles in MD during the early 2000s.
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Post by: Simple Simon on March 23, 2017, 01:26:49 AM
That's the first time I've ever heard anyone (John)  mention Torbugesic (aside from me). Torbugesic is what I figured out would work when the production of Nubian ended. Then I figured out a taper using Temgesic (which john also mentions as "Stadol", which was the American version, usually prescribed for migraines... Esp the nasal spray version......... Stadol/Temgesic's chemical is buprenorphine which was approved for trials and began to be prescribed for heroin/oxy/opiate addiction/withdrawal in '03/04, 2 yrs after I figured it would work for Nubian withdrawal haha. I should be patented it. Lol)...

Anyways, John also mentioned Paul Demayo and said he started with Nubian and went to heroin... Which isn't true. Paul started with percocet, went off when he got locked up, & got on Nubian when he got out. This is from Paul himself when I spoke with him shortly before he passed. Talked specifically about painkiller addiction. At the time he said he was clean and I'd been clean for an while but was still dealing with insomnia and anxiety. He was dead soon after from that new England heroin.
shame you didn't spend as much time looking after yourself as you seemed to do destroying yourself.

every post you make just reeks desperate drug addict.
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Post by: Simple Simon on March 23, 2017, 05:43:35 AM
Lol desperate drug addict eh? Funny how you gather that. Interpreting me stating above that id gotten clean and had been clean for some time at the time of the conversation (a conversation that was based on is being clean and what we were doing to stay that way), as well as everything else ive stated in regards to the opiates i was addicted to. You ever see me type "oh i wish i could do some drugs... Oh i really miss it"??? Nope... Yet thats what you want to read, so in your mind YOU decide what i say. You're delusional and pathetic. High schools are full of losers like you. You're like the uncle in Napoleon Dynomite. Pathetic and sad.

Ive yet to see you even attempt to contribute something usefull. Whether with this gimmick, or your UKJeff or SimpleSimon gimmicks. Then again, if i had 15" arms, a 14" neck, and no experience training others, id keep out of those types of conversations as well.
ukjeff simple simon and be there are all the same account, its just the name that changed.


Look mate, if you keep writing stories about taking medicines in huge and un-prescribed dosages then what do you expect people to think.

I have yet to see one post from you exuding something about you being healthy at any stage in your life
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Post by: falco on March 23, 2017, 06:47:42 AM
He did make and sell stuff while there. Some here were saying it was legal, but it isn't. Its just not really "enforced".

I think his wife does figure or bikini.

Mexico is great. I'd live there in a heartbeat. Back when i had my pharmacy i had 2 apts down there. 1 was kinda a place to crash or hangout. Rarely spent the night, much less more than 1 night. The other was just for storage. The "lifestyle"/pace, or just the attitude (terms im looking for are escaping me at the moment) of people down there is nicer than the US.

Eres muy alto para vivir en Mexico. La policia consigue mirar tu semblante de gringo  hacia centenas de metros por entre la restante población.
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Post by: falco on March 23, 2017, 06:54:10 AM
That's the first time I've ever heard anyone (John)  mention Torbugesic (aside from me). Torbugesic is what I figured out would work when the production of Nubian ended. Then I figured out a taper using Temgesic (which john also mentions as "Stadol", which was the American version, usually prescribed for migraines... Esp the nasal spray version......... Stadol/Temgesic's chemical is buprenorphine which was approved for trials and began to be prescribed for heroin/oxy/opiate addiction/withdrawal in '03/04, 2 yrs after I figured it would work for Nubian withdrawal haha. I should be patented it. Lol)...

Anyways, John also mentioned Paul Demayo and said he started with Nubian and went to heroin... Which isn't true. Paul started with percocet, went off when he got locked up, & got on Nubian when he got out. This is from Paul himself when I spoke with him shortly before he passed. Talked specifically about painkiller addiction. At the time he said he was clean and I'd been clean for an while but was still dealing with insomnia and anxiety. He was dead soon after from that new England heroin.

There were rumours about Paul OD'd on purpose at the time. Suicide. Since you and him were palls, care to give some insight about it?
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Post by: Taffin on March 23, 2017, 11:28:15 AM
Eres muy alto para vivir en Mexico. La policia consigue mirar tu semblante de gringo  hacia centenas de metros por entre la restante población.

LOL - are you saying Mexicans are short?  Or that ESF is really tall? 
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Post by: Taffin on March 23, 2017, 11:41:52 AM
That's the first time I've ever heard anyone (John)  mention Torbugesic (aside from me). Torbugesic is what I figured out would work when the production of Nubian ended. Then I figured out a taper using Temgesic (which john also mentions as "Stadol", which was the American version, usually prescribed for migraines... Esp the nasal spray version......... Stadol/Temgesic's chemical is buprenorphine which was approved for trials and began to be prescribed for heroin/oxy/opiate addiction/withdrawal in '03/04, 2 yrs after I figured it would work for Nubian withdrawal haha. I should be patented it. Lol)...

Anyways, John also mentioned Paul Demayo and said he started with Nubian and went to heroin... Which isn't true. Paul started with percocet, went off when he got locked up, & got on Nubian when he got out. This is from Paul himself when I spoke with him shortly before he passed. Talked specifically about painkiller addiction. At the time he said he was clean and I'd been clean for an while but was still dealing with insomnia and anxiety. He was dead soon after from that new England heroin.

Interesting post.  I think the whole opiates thing seems much more tightly policed in the UK.  People (apparently) tend to jump straight to heroin as all of these things like Percs and Oxys are things that I've personally never seen as available/prescribed - limited sample I know!

I guess I'm lucky in that I've tried all sorts of things in my time, but I don't think I have a particularly addictive personality.  That need to 'search out' something when it's run out was just never there for me.  No judgement implied.

And your comment in another post about living in Mexico is interesting - given the sort of violent stuff that I glean by osmosis from things people post on here (torture threads).  Scary business.

ps - I resisted the urge to make a joke about 'Nubian withdrawal', though there are many possibilities  ;D
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Post by: Fuzzy Nuts on March 23, 2017, 02:50:14 PM
There were rumours about Paul OD'd on purpose at the time. Suicide. Since you and him were palls, care to give some insight about it?
This is true. He killed himself after listening to one of ESF's fictional stories.
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Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on March 23, 2017, 03:02:52 PM
This is true. He killed himself after listening to one of ESF's fictional stories.

lolz
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Post by: Simple Simon on March 23, 2017, 03:16:57 PM
This is true. He killed himself after listening to one of ESF's fictional stories.
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Post by: TheAnimal on March 23, 2017, 03:20:39 PM
This is true. He killed himself after listening to one of ESF's fictional stories.
;D
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Post by: _bruce_ on March 23, 2017, 03:44:55 PM
This is true. He killed himself after listening to one of ESF's fictional stories.

 ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Yamcha on March 23, 2017, 03:45:48 PM
poppers of peace

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Post by: Taffin on March 23, 2017, 03:55:53 PM
Mexico is nice. Sure, there are poor areas, but people are generally nicer, even in the poor areas. The pace is slower and the lifestyle is more relaxed, as opposed to any large U.S. city. N.Y.C. and pretty much anywhere in M.E.X. are like polar-opposites (which may be true of any South American countries i suppose)

Given the choice, even with a modest income, I think I'd choose living in Tijuana over living in L.A. just for day-2-day comfort... And that has nothing to do with availability of drugs or whatever. Lol.

Sure, there's violence, but the violence you see on t.v. is primarily involving people in the Narco business. (speaking of "narco", ive yet to see an episode of that T.V. show. I remember seeing previews a while back but up till recently i was working and out of the house 16+hrs a day and had no use for cable and even cancelled my internet. I think its on netflix??). Anyways.... Most "civillians" are safe, & not subject to random murders and kidnapping. Sure, back in Oct '04 my business partner, 2 employees, and unfortunately an employee's little 11-12yr old niece who did nothingball day but watch soccer and wipe down the glass counter-tops  :-[ , were all arrested/kidnapped and never heard from again (& most likely ended up in 55gal drums of acid, or burried in a big grave in a ditch, as was the common method during that time. Google Tijuana's "el pozolero" :/ ), but my partner Armando was involved in "shady" business (not narco), & one thing led to another. Armando also owned 2 other pharmacies on Revolution Ave. (Ive talked about this before. They were taken in a Saturday. I was supposed to be there at the same time, but I happened to have a bbq instead (I believe we went clam-poaching on Coronado beach the night before & were BBQing them) and decided to go down and drop off orders on Sunday instead. Had i gone down Sat, i wouldnt be typing this.

Doesn't it give you nightmares thinking about the innocent niece....?
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Post by: Sokolsky on March 23, 2017, 03:58:47 PM
Doesn't it give you nightmares thinking about the innocent niece....?

Wrong person went to the bbq that's for sure.
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Post by: stuntmovie on March 23, 2017, 04:15:54 PM
A lot of interesting comments here and although I've never had a drug problem, I've been personally involved or personally witnessed  most of what has been mentioned above in addition to  'stuff' related to the use of drugs and the trading thereof such as two suicides , one murder, and numerous incarcerations often repeated.

Probably a typical day in certain parts of LA.

Of all those individuals only one has stayed 'clean' over the years and is now in a well paid position to travel most anyplace to help other drug addicts.

The most disappointing drug addict was one whom we worked with to get him back on his feet and capable of walking after a serious drug related back injury.

That was a tough one because the drugs were needed to alleviate serious back pain.

Short story  shorter.... He committed suicide when they did ther best to decrease his drug dependence.

I give a lot of credit to any drug addict who can get off and stay off but I have seldom seen that happen.



Sorry ... Had say this,  


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Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 23, 2017, 04:41:38 PM
This is true. He killed himself after listening to one of ESF's fictional stories.

Gold!
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Post by: doggler on March 23, 2017, 04:50:33 PM
This is true. He killed himself after listening to one of ESF's fictional stories.


..
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Post by: gib on March 23, 2017, 06:04:26 PM
One example is David Death, who was a massive user of coke. Coke is all good provided you have the self control and discipline to use it, indeed if you do, its a wonderful drug.

Then he progressed to Nubain, then oxys then heroin (probably mixed with both alcohol and weed). And its at this point that for many it goes wrong. For David, he blamed "the doctors for prescribing the stuff to me". I call BS on that. Take control of your own use and blame no one else.

All a matter of moderation, but in my view, the only really productive drugs are stimulants such as coke, (and meth for a select few), provided you know how to use them (and for the vast majority of people they do not have the medical understanding or self control etc to use either).
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Post by: TheAnimal on March 23, 2017, 06:14:31 PM
One example is David Death, who was a massive user of coke. Coke is all good provided you have the self control and discipline to use it, indeed if you do, its a wonderful drug.

Then he progressed to Nubain, then oxys then heroin (probably mixed with both alcohol and weed). And its at this point that for many it goes wrong. For David, he blamed "the doctors for prescribing the stuff to me". I call BS on that. Take control of your own use and blame no one else.

All a matter of moderation, but in my view, the only really productive drugs are stimulants such as coke, (and meth for a select few), provided you know how to use them (and for the vast majority of people they do not have the medical understanding or self control etc to use either).
You sound like fun
Deviated septum of peace
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Post by: Hypertrophy on March 23, 2017, 07:15:45 PM
I like Dave Palumbo's interviews- the guy seems to know how to actually let people answer questions. But wny do all these "ex-bodybuilders" look so unhealthy? And all they talk about is drug use. I guess that's the "sport".
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Post by: Hypertrophy on March 23, 2017, 09:13:49 PM
They talk about drug use because that's usually what ppl want to hear.

Hell, I met with a customer last night... Ex ifbb guy (speaking of rec's, this guys been a functioning meth user for years) anyways,  i realized that every time i talk to him he starts talking about "back in the day" steroids (most of which he's wrong about), & these conversations always start out on the phone and continue when we meet up in person. Drives me nuts cuz #1 i dont like talking "biz" on the phone and this guy should know that.. And #2 we'll discuss the order and then he'll continue on for over 30mins about various steroids when i wanna get off the phone and get shit packaged up.

Last night it was "Testex Elmu", which he was telling me was the "strongest" test ever produced (and arguing thatnit was called "testex emul because it was an emulsion". Lol) and "back in the day" novody could use over 6 amps a week b/c it was so strong. Saying it was  test phenyl-prop 200mg/ml and each amp was 2ml. Then said he would only do 5 amps a week for 1000mg (???) .

*testex elmu is 250mg cyp btw*

Last month, & the few months prior, the "secret unicorn" or steroids was testosterone undecylenate and that the gains from that were great and didnt aromatize and worked through some mechanism that was special... Etc.. Whatever... And he's so convinced of this stuff that i just kinda act like its news to me or agree with it. Instead of explaining test is test once that ester gets cleaved off. (or arguing that vicodin is oxycodone amd percodan is hydrocodone.. And xanax is name brand clonzepam and klonopin is it's own drug.. Wtf? Lol... Or that it takes 3 shotsnof espresso to equal an 6 or 8oz cup of coffee. Lol... It never ends)........ Anyways, the point is they just like to talk about drugs. Sometimes like theyre these mysterious, mythical exotic substances (like the humatrope vs protropin vs genatropin vs nutropin vs serostim vs Russian gh vs chinese gh vs. 191 vs 192 amino acid gh discussion last night as well lol)

It's like old mechanics talking about cars I guess, haha.  When i was in college and first started lifting I wanted to get a part time job at a local gym. They were hiring "trainers" and even though i didn't know that much I looked like I worked out so it was a good fit. The gym manager was an ex-bodybuilder and when I started asking about pros at the time he said "It's all drugs, kid. It really isn't a healthy way of life at all".

That's when I first realized the extent of drug use in the sport. That was in the mid 80's and from then on I pretty much lost interest in lifting other than for strength and general fitness. I follow GetBig because this is really the only place where people say it like it is, and with a great deal of humor :)

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Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 24, 2017, 12:54:39 AM
They talk about drug use because that's usually what ppl want to hear.

Hell, I met with a customer last night... Ex ifbb guy (speaking of rec's, this guys been a functioning meth user for years) anyways,  i realized that every time i talk to him he starts talking about "back in the day" steroids (most of which he's wrong about), & these conversations always start out on the phone and continue when we meet up in person. Drives me nuts cuz #1 i dont like talking "biz" on the phone and this guy should know that.. And #2 we'll discuss the order and then he'll continue on for over 30mins about various steroids when i wanna get off the phone and get shit packaged up.

Last night it was "Testex Elmu", which he was telling me was the "strongest" test ever produced (and arguing thatnit was called "testex emul because it was an emulsion". Lol) and "back in the day" novody could use over 6 amps a week b/c it was so strong. Saying it was  test phenyl-prop 200mg/ml and each amp was 2ml. Then said he would only do 5 amps a week for 1000mg (???) .

*testex elmu is 250mg cyp btw*

Last month, & the few months prior, the "secret unicorn" or steroids was testosterone undecylenate and that the gains from that were great and didnt aromatize and worked through some mechanism that was special... Etc.. Whatever... And he's so convinced of this stuff that i just kinda act like its news to me or agree with it. Instead of explaining test is test once that ester gets cleaved off. (or arguing that vicodin is oxycodone amd percodan is hydrocodone.. And xanax is name brand clonzepam and klonopin is it's own drug.. Wtf? Lol... Or that it takes 3 shotsnof espresso to equal an 6 or 8oz cup of coffee. Lol... It never ends)........ Anyways, the point is they just like to talk about drugs. Sometimes like theyre these mysterious, mythical exotic substances (like the humatrope vs protropin vs genatropin vs nutropin vs serostim vs Russian gh vs chinese gh vs. 191 vs 192 amino acid gh discussion last night as well lol)

Many or most bb'ers are so fucking stupid. Testex is indeed just cyp, using the alternative name for the cyp ester cyclopentilpropionato. But no, it's some special ultra potent steroid. Same with the old Theramex Test "Heptylate" which was also supposedly some exclusive ester. But heptylate is just an alternate name for enanthate, nothing special about it. We have guys on this forum arguing there hasn't been any "real" tren on the market since Parabolan, at least nothing even close to as strong.

Reminds me of Craig Titus saying there's no real tren, not even Finaplix is real tren:

Quote
Trenbalone. Are you referring to all that useless yellow stuff people are making from melting down the pellets in oil and then selling it to a bunch of suckers? I seriously doubt that you or anyone else has any real trenbalone floating around. That drug has been long gone for years and years. You have a bunch of these so-called gurus melting down Finilplex Pellets (tren pellets designed to be injected into cattle) and mixing them in oil. All it takes is one idiot who is loaded up on test and this idiotic mix to say he's growing like never before and everyone will join in buying the stuff. Fact is that it's the testosterone that is working and not the so-called tren. My advice to you is to throw the crap out because it is useless! All these companies selling the shit were started from people trying to get rich, and they are. I've been laughing at this tren thing ever since Finilplex hit the scene about 6 years ago. There is no real Tren 
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Post by: Simple Simon on March 24, 2017, 01:05:51 AM
Mexico is nice. Sure, there are poor areas, but people are generally nicer, even in the poor areas. The pace is slower and the lifestyle is more relaxed, as opposed to any large U.S. city. N.Y.C. and pretty much anywhere in M.E.X. are like polar-opposites (which may be true of any South American countries i suppose)

Given the choice, even with a modest income, I think I'd choose living in Tijuana over living in L.A. just for day-2-day comfort... And that has nothing to do with availability of drugs or whatever. Lol.

Sure, there's violence, but the violence you see on t.v. is primarily involving people in the Narco business. (speaking of "narco", ive yet to see an episode of that T.V. show. I remember seeing previews a while back but up till recently i was working and out of the house 16+hrs a day and had no use for cable and even cancelled my internet. I think its on netflix??). Anyways.... Most "civillians" are safe, & not subject to random murders and kidnapping. Sure, back in Oct '04 my business partner, 2 employees, and unfortunately an employee's little 11-12yr old niece who did nothingball day but watch soccer and wipe down the glass counter-tops  :-[ , were all arrested/kidnapped and never heard from again (& most likely ended up in 55gal drums of acid, or burried in a big grave in a ditch, as was the common method during that time. Google Tijuana's "el pozolero" :/ ), but my partner Armando was involved in "shady" business (not narco), & one thing led to another. Armando also owned 2 other pharmacies on Revolution Ave. (Ive talked about this before. They were taken in a Saturday. I was supposed to be there at the same time, but I happened to have a bbq instead (I believe we went clam-poaching on Coronado beach the night before & were BBQing them) and decided to go down and drop off orders on Sunday instead. Had i gone down Sat, i wouldnt be typing this.

Next time, can you go on a Saturday please?
Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders
Post by: heenok on March 24, 2017, 02:04:37 AM
Many or most bb'ers are so fucking stupid.

this sums up the whole thing
you really have to talk to real world guys in gyms, most guys are absolutly clueless about everything.. they just do whatever the next bigger gym rat advise them to do... they dont know about esthers, AIs, whatever. its like they take this many ml here and there untill they run out, not clue of what compound does what and how.
ask them about bloodwork and shit like that its like you are talking chinese to them, they just pop and inject whatever they have on hand at the moment, and mostly what they can afford (they are pretty much all jobless/broke)
but one pattern i noticed everywhere : GH is considered holy water by everyone

and some of those guys are fucking huge placing in competition and shit, some dont look like they lift at all
shows you how genetics are EVERYTHING
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Post by: Taffin on March 24, 2017, 02:49:27 AM
One example is David Death, who was a massive user of coke. Coke is all good provided you have the self control and discipline to use it, indeed if you do, its a wonderful drug.

Then he progressed to Nubain, then oxys then heroin (probably mixed with both alcohol and weed). And its at this point that for many it goes wrong. For David, he blamed "the doctors for prescribing the stuff to me". I call BS on that. Take control of your own use and blame no one else.

All a matter of moderation, but in my view, the only really productive drugs are stimulants such as coke, (and meth for a select few), provided you know how to use them (and for the vast majority of people they do not have the medical understanding or self control etc to use either).

Deliberate?  Or typo?   ;D

As for coke (and most other things 'recreational') I tend to agree with the self-control argument.  Once you start doing anything daily, it's habit forming - even good stuff.  Isn't there a proper theory about this?  Once you find yourself unable to find a reason not to do a line of coke at 3pm on a Tuesday afternoon or something, you've got yourself a situation...

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Post by: falco on March 24, 2017, 06:17:28 AM
LOL - are you saying Mexicans are short?  Or that ESF is really tall? 

Las dos cosas. Mexicanos son pequeñitos e ESF mide casí dos metros.
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Post by: falco on March 24, 2017, 06:22:29 AM
Werent pals and i hadnt met before that time i talked to him. I heard the suicide thing in the days or so after it happened. What shocked me was that he seemed in really good spirits. Was almost like he was surprised i recognized him and he was happy somebody was talking to him. He seemed to be positive and looking forward. Didn't seem like somebody who was still using anything. Didnt even notice any injection scars, but i guess thats not unusual since very few guys (aside from Cormier and Prince) had "track marks" (i only "tracks" when i was using nubain/torbu... Never got them years later on heroin).

You must have been very close to their glutes and touch them to feel the scar tissue?

(http://menversus.com/images/bertstare.jpg)

Maricón.
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Post by: falco on March 24, 2017, 06:28:56 AM
Mexico is nice. Sure, there are poor areas, but people are generally nicer, even in the poor areas. The pace is slower and the lifestyle is more relaxed, as opposed to any large U.S. city. N.Y.C. and pretty much anywhere in M.E.X. are like polar-opposites (which may be true of any South American countries i suppose)

Given the choice, even with a modest income, I think I'd choose living in Tijuana over living in L.A. just for day-2-day comfort... And that has nothing to do with availability of drugs or whatever. Lol.

Sure, there's violence, but the violence you see on t.v. is primarily involving people in the Narco business. (speaking of "narco", ive yet to see an episode of that T.V. show. I remember seeing previews a while back but up till recently i was working and out of the house 16+hrs a day and had no use for cable and even cancelled my internet. I think its on netflix??). Anyways.... Most "civillians" are safe, & not subject to random murders and kidnapping. Sure, back in Oct '04 my business partner, 2 employees, and unfortunately an employee's little 11-12yr old niece who did nothingball day but watch soccer and wipe down the glass counter-tops  :-[ , were all arrested/kidnapped and never heard from again (& most likely ended up in 55gal drums of acid, or burried in a big grave in a ditch, as was the common method during that time. Google Tijuana's "el pozolero" :/ ), but my partner Armando was involved in "shady" business (not narco), & one thing led to another. Armando also owned 2 other pharmacies on Revolution Ave. (Ive talked about this before. They were taken in a Saturday. I was supposed to be there at the same time, but I happened to have a bbq instead (I believe we went clam-poaching on Coronado beach the night before & were BBQing them) and decided to go down and drop off orders on Sunday instead. Had i gone down Sat, i wouldnt be typing this.

Si estuviste tanto tiempo en Méjico, porqué no hablas uma única palabra de español? Me parece que tús patrañas no tienen fronteras cabrón.
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Post by: falco on March 24, 2017, 06:35:52 AM
Not so much nightmares, but i still think about it often. Just a normal lil girl. Rarely said a word. Employees were good guys too. Richard was a clean cut/straigjtlaced guy maybe 5yrs older than me. Didn't "party" or anything. Type of guy who probably got straight A's in school and would grow up to be a manager at an El Pollo Loco or something (imagine a 27 ten old version of that black guy from Breaking Bad... Minus the drug dealer/killer part).... And Reuben was a good kid probably 22yrs old. Partied on weekends but just drinking watching or playing soccer. Never "bad" stuff like drugs or whatever. Always good natured and a nice guy.

Entonces estuviste en Méjico durante años pero no sabes escribir ó siquera que quiere decir "El pollo loco". Seguramente lo comias todos los dias mentiroso...
A Getbig no nos gusta mentirosos cabrón.
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Post by: Taffin on March 24, 2017, 11:04:53 AM

(http://menversus.com/images/bertstare.jpg)

Maricón.

Legit LOL at Burt saying "Maricón" hahahaha!  ;D
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Post by: Kwon on March 24, 2017, 12:05:08 PM
This is true. He killed himself after listening to one of ESF's fictional stories.
speaking of "narco"... :D
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Post by: Tapeworm on March 25, 2017, 06:09:28 AM
If I speak vietnamese and tagalog from growing up in a Viet and Filipino neighborhood and dating Viet and flip girls what makes you think I don't speak Spanish as well? Since I operated a business in Mexico and Was in Mexico 4-5 days a week , in addition to keeping up with my Spanish in prison by translating for a Cuban friend in prison, and dating about 50% Mexican girls since moving to palm desert .

That you responded in English is hard to ignore.  

They say that pudding is proof.  Idk why they say that but you haven't given us any pudding.  It's time for you to be pudding up or shutting up.  

How do you say pudding in Spanish?
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Post by: Simple Simon on March 25, 2017, 07:52:00 AM
If I speak vietnamese and tagalog from growing up in a Viet and Filipino neighborhood and dating Viet and flip girls what makes you think I don't speak Spanish as well? Since I operated a business in Mexico and Was in Mexico 4-5 days a week , in addition to keeping up with my Spanish in prison by translating for a Cuban friend in prison, and dating about 50% Mexican girls since moving to palm desert .

I wouldnt be surprised if you said you spoke 57 languages.
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Post by: falco on March 25, 2017, 09:05:59 AM
If I speak vietnamese and tagalog from growing up in a Viet and Filipino neighborhood and dating Viet and flip girls what makes you think I don't speak Spanish as well? Since I operated a business in Mexico and Was in Mexico 4-5 days a week , in addition to keeping up with my Spanish in prison by translating for a Cuban friend in prison, and dating about 50% Mexican girls since moving to palm desert .

Still you had a hard time to memorize "el pollo loco". Do you know what it means?
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Post by: falco on March 25, 2017, 09:47:45 AM
A hard time?

Si. Tuviste dificuldad en te acordar de un nombre tan simple como "el pollo loco". DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT MEAN?
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Post by: Tapeworm on March 25, 2017, 10:36:15 AM
I can speak it better than i can write it. I learned by speaking it, not out of a textbook. Does floyd mayweather speak english? Yes. Can he read and write? No.. At least i can read most of it. You think i can write viet? Idiot.

Of course you can.  Como se dice: Lleno de mierda a globos occulares.

Si. Tuviste dificuldad en te acordar de un nombre tan simple como "el pollo loco". DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT MEAN?

A few possible translations.  I'm going with The Rampaging Penis.
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Post by: Derrick Rigg on March 25, 2017, 03:08:35 PM
Lots of recreational drug use around the bbers I hanged out in Miami, Houston, and LA.

Lotta coke, e, and alot more. I always avoided that shit so I could stay on track to my bbing goals. But too many wanted to party alot when they had some cash in their posers.

One guy, who is a former pro, can't even put a sentence together... barely... from so much drug use.
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Post by: falco on March 25, 2017, 03:44:39 PM
Of course you can.  Como se dice: Lleno de mierda a globos occulares.

A few possible translations.  I'm going with The Rampaging Penis.

LMAO. NO, but epic try,,
HAHAHAHA
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Post by: NelsonMuntz on March 25, 2017, 04:53:15 PM
I wouldnt be surprised if you said you spoke 57 languages.

this sums up exactly everything in under 2 minutes
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Post by: NelsonMuntz on March 25, 2017, 04:54:04 PM
I wouldnt be surprised if you said you spoke 57 languages.

this sums up everything in under 2 minutes

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Post by: Tapeworm on March 26, 2017, 02:30:32 AM
Let's see... I live in southern california, went to school in san diego & lived in linda vista and kearny mesa during school years. Neighborhoods and school was about 40% mexican, 40% asian (viet, hmong, lao, filipino mostly.. And in that order. Also chinese and some cambodian. Very few thai, japanese, or korean), 15% black, & the rest white or whatever.

In h.s. i dated 100% asian girls and most my friends were asian, so of course im going to pick up the language even if i didnt make an effort to learn... And i made an effort. And after h.s. i met my ex and when she spoke to her family it was always in vietnamese (except with her younger sister & brother). Every family dinner was in vietnamese. Of course they spoke english, but at home or amongst themselves it was Viet. Her parents go back to vietnam to see grandma so me and my ex go stay at their house in S.D. (Rancho Penasquitos) to help out and look after their business for 2 months (they owned a tailor-shop... I did the books/banking and she helped with the sewing with her older bro and lil sis). I was also watched my niece during the day while her mom worked at the shop, which meant i was at home about 50% of the time with the oldest brothers wife (who had just come over from vietnam & spoke zero english & who worked at home sewing because there was no room at the shop)... Now, my every interaction with her, if she needed something opened or a  ride somewhere or ppl calling the house, etc was all in vietnamese, for instance a plumber came over and i had to translate what the plumber said into viet to tell m father in law what the problem was. My niece, who was about 2yrs old, was learning english, viet, & lao. Therefor practicing viet and lao with her was also practice for me..... A lot of my ex's(and remember was with her for nearly 10yrs)  friends were filipino, & going to their family's house's for bbqs id hear tagalog again (id already learned in h.s.) &.could practice with their moms/aunts/cousins whatever. Old filipino ladies are way nicer than white people. And they always liked it when a white guy actually put in the effort to learn their language (hmong familys are the same way... Similar to mexican moms i suppose as well).....

So, if i can pick up and speak those languages, without taking a class in school, why the fuck is it so hard to believe I'd speak spanish? Considering where i live, where i grew up, ive owned a business in mexico, ive actually taken 2yrs of spanish in school (though i learned the majority outside of school), or that since moving to palm desert in 2011 ive dated about 50-70% mexican...

Jesus, just how many of you people have adult-autism, or aspergers?


I believe this post.  While we're being honest - let's admit that dating asians and mexicans is the classic loser white guy move. 
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Post by: Hack Benchers on March 26, 2017, 02:36:14 AM
Let's see... I live in southern california, went to school in san diego & lived in linda vista and kearny mesa during school years. Neighborhoods and school was about 40% mexican, 40% asian (viet, hmong, lao, filipino mostly.. And in that order. Also chinese and some cambodian. Very few thai, japanese, or korean), 15% black, & the rest white or whatever.

In h.s. i dated 100% asian girls and most my friends were asian, so of course im going to pick up the language even if i didnt make an effort to learn... And i made an effort. And after h.s. i met my ex and when she spoke to her family it was always in vietnamese (except with her younger sister & brother). Every family dinner was in vietnamese. Of course they spoke english, but at home or amongst themselves it was Viet. Her parents go back to vietnam to see grandma so me and my ex go stay at their house in S.D. (Rancho Penasquitos) to help out and look after their business for 2 months (they owned a tailor-shop... I did the books/banking and she helped with the sewing with her older bro and lil sis). I was also watched my niece during the day while her mom worked at the shop, which meant i was at home about 50% of the time with the oldest brothers wife (who had just come over from vietnam & spoke zero english & who worked at home sewing because there was no room at the shop)... Now, my every interaction with her, if she needed something opened or a  ride somewhere or ppl calling the house, etc was all in vietnamese, for instance a plumber came over and i had to translate what the plumber said into viet to tell m father in law what the problem was. My niece, who was about 2yrs old, was learning english, viet, & lao. Therefor practicing viet and lao with her was also practice for me..... A lot of my ex's(and remember was with her for nearly 10yrs)  friends were filipino, & going to their family's house's for bbqs id hear tagalog again (id already learned in h.s.) &.could practice with their moms/aunts/cousins whatever. Old filipino ladies are way nicer than white people. And they always liked it when a white guy actually put in the effort to learn their language (hmong familys are the same way... Similar to mexican moms i suppose as well).....

So, if i can pick up and speak those languages, without taking a class in school, why the fuck is it so hard to believe I'd speak spanish? Considering where i live, where i grew up, ive owned a business in mexico, ive actually taken 2yrs of spanish in school (though i learned the majority outside of school), or that since moving to palm desert in 2011 ive dated about 50-70% mexican...

Jesus, just how many of you people have adult-autism, or aspergers?


You are quite the typist bro, where do you find the time for all this typing? Only 240 or bust could trump you but he has died.
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Post by: cindybaby on March 26, 2017, 03:03:51 AM
Lots of recreational drug use around the bbers I hanged out in Miami, Houston, and LA.

Lotta coke, e, and alot more. I always avoided that shit so I could stay on track to my bbing goals. But too many wanted to party alot when they had some cash in their posers.

One guy, who is a former pro, can't even put a sentence together... barely... from so much drug use.
drugs are for losers!
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Post by: Henda on March 26, 2017, 05:04:28 AM
Let's see... I live in southern california, went to school in san diego & lived in linda vista and kearny mesa during school years. Neighborhoods and school was about 40% mexican, 40% asian (viet, hmong, lao, filipino mostly.. And in that order. Also chinese and some cambodian. Very few thai, japanese, or korean), 15% black, & the rest white or whatever.

In h.s. i dated 100% asian girls and most my friends were asian, so of course im going to pick up the language even if i didnt make an effort to learn... And i made an effort. And after h.s. i met my ex and when she spoke to her family it was always in vietnamese (except with her younger sister & brother). Every family dinner was in vietnamese. Of course they spoke english, but at home or amongst themselves it was Viet. Her parents go back to vietnam to see grandma so me and my ex go stay at their house in S.D. (Rancho Penasquitos) to help out and look after their business for 2 months (they owned a tailor-shop... I did the books/banking and she helped with the sewing with her older bro and lil sis). I was also watched my niece during the day while her mom worked at the shop, which meant i was at home about 50% of the time with the oldest brothers wife (who had just come over from vietnam & spoke zero english & who worked at home sewing because there was no room at the shop)... Now, my every interaction with her, if she needed something opened or a  ride somewhere or ppl calling the house, etc was all in vietnamese, for instance a plumber came over and i had to translate what the plumber said into viet to tell m father in law what the problem was. My niece, who was about 2yrs old, was learning english, viet, & lao. Therefor practicing viet and lao with her was also practice for me..... A lot of my ex's(and remember was with her for nearly 10yrs)  friends were filipino, & going to their family's house's for bbqs id hear tagalog again (id already learned in h.s.) &.could practice with their moms/aunts/cousins whatever. Old filipino ladies are way nicer than white people. And they always liked it when a white guy actually put in the effort to learn their language (hmong familys are the same way... Similar to mexican moms i suppose as well).....

So, if i can pick up and speak those languages, without taking a class in school, why the fuck is it so hard to believe I'd speak spanish? Considering where i live, where i grew up, ive owned a business in mexico, ive actually taken 2yrs of spanish in school (though i learned the majority outside of school), or that since moving to palm desert in 2011 ive dated about 50-70% mexican...

Jesus, just how many of you people have adult-autism, or aspergers?

I do believe you have no reason not to, my dad's mother was Spanish and he still couldn't speak a word of it so it dosent come as easy to some people
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Post by: Sokolsky on March 26, 2017, 05:17:27 AM
Yea, and asian girls have really low standards.

Id date white girls if i was into tall ugly women with size size 13 feet, who at best have 2yrs in their lifetime when they dont look like a dumptruck when they take off their clothes, with no education, who think driving a 2002 ford explorer and having a wardrobe from Walmart & JCPenny is "living good", and who's carreer goals involve someday being assiatant manager at a grocery store.

And dating mexican girls is because there arnt many asian girls around here, and the white girls are white girls. At least mexican girls are pretty and can cook.

If you're fishing in a pool of ugly white uneducated women with size 13 feet, that just makes you an unattractive degenerate fuck on par with the darkies who pursue such women.
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Post by: Hack Benchers on March 26, 2017, 07:27:57 AM
Swype and voice text.

Besides, i wrote that over about 30mins while sitting outside enjoying a spicy Romeo y Julieta cigar and some welchs grape soda.


Living the life of a typical getbig BiLlionaire I see. Carry on brother.
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Post by: falco on March 26, 2017, 07:45:16 AM
Let's see... I live in southern california, went to school in san diego & lived in linda vista and kearny mesa during school years. Neighborhoods and school was about 40% mexican, 40% asian (viet, hmong, lao, filipino mostly.. And in that order. Also chinese and some cambodian. Very few thai, japanese, or korean), 15% black, & the rest white or whatever.

In h.s. i dated 100% asian girls and most my friends were asian, so of course im going to pick up the language even if i didnt make an effort to learn... And i made an effort. And after h.s. i met my ex and when she spoke to her family it was always in vietnamese (except with her younger sister & brother). Every family dinner was in vietnamese. Of course they spoke english, but at home or amongst themselves it was Viet. Her parents go back to vietnam to see grandma so me and my ex go stay at their house in S.D. (Rancho Penasquitos) to help out and look after their business for 2 months (they owned a tailor-shop... I did the books/banking and she helped with the sewing with her older bro and lil sis). I was also watched my niece during the day while her mom worked at the shop, which meant i was at home about 50% of the time with the oldest brothers wife (who had just come over from vietnam & spoke zero english & who worked at home sewing because there was no room at the shop)... Now, my every interaction with her, if she needed something opened or a  ride somewhere or ppl calling the house, etc was all in vietnamese, for instance a plumber came over and i had to translate what the plumber said into viet to tell m father in law what the problem was. My niece, who was about 2yrs old, was learning english, viet, & lao. Therefor practicing viet and lao with her was also practice for me..... A lot of my ex's(and remember was with her for nearly 10yrs)  friends were filipino, & going to their family's house's for bbqs id hear tagalog again (id already learned in h.s.) &.could practice with their moms/aunts/cousins whatever. Old filipino ladies are way nicer than white people. And they always liked it when a white guy actually put in the effort to learn their language (hmong familys are the same way... Similar to mexican moms i suppose as well).....

So, if i can pick up and speak those languages, without taking a class in school, why the fuck is it so hard to believe I'd speak spanish? Considering where i live, where i grew up, ive owned a business in mexico, ive actually taken 2yrs of spanish in school (though i learned the majority outside of school), or that since moving to palm desert in 2011 ive dated about 50-70% mexican...

Jesus, just how many of you people have adult-autism, or aspergers?

After all said and done... You failed to translate "El pollo loco". Have a gut feelling you never will.
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Post by: falco on March 26, 2017, 07:49:25 AM
Yea, and asian girls have really low standards.

Id date white girls if i was into tall ugly women with size size 13 feet, who at best have 2yrs in their lifetime when they dont look like a dumptruck when they take off their clothes, with no education, who think driving a 2002 ford explorer and having a wardrobe from Walmart & JCPenny is "living good", and who's carreer goals involve someday being assiatant manager at a grocery store.

And dating mexican girls is because there arnt many asian girls around here, and the white girls are white girls. At least mexican girls are pretty and can cook.

You being 6'9" , asian and mexican girls can blow you standing upright.
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Post by: Disco187 on March 26, 2017, 09:10:52 PM
as a x addict I thought that was a very good show.
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Post by: Taffin on March 27, 2017, 06:08:37 PM
as a x addict I thought that was a very good show.

Obviously it's none of my business, but since you've mentioned it, and this board is anonymous - can I please ask what you were addicted to, how you got on it first, how long, how you got off, etc...?

Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders
Post by: falco on March 28, 2017, 08:27:15 AM
Solamente cabrones consumen drogas. Hombres de honor inyectan esteroides.
Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders
Post by: Taffin on March 28, 2017, 10:32:15 AM
Solamente cabrones consumen drogas. Hombres de honor inyectan esteroides.

Eu faço ambos. Sou um bastardo de honra....  ;D
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Post by: Sokolsky on March 29, 2017, 09:47:34 AM
"Honorable" fellas dont try to act cute.

Or what you going to do? You going to make up more shit?  ::)
Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders
Post by: Simple Simon on March 29, 2017, 09:54:45 AM
What have i "made up"?

your entire persona on here, no one on earth has lived a life like yours, fuck me, 007 pails by comparison
Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders
Post by: Taffin on March 29, 2017, 10:01:32 AM
your entire persona on here, no one on earth has lived a life like yours, fuck me, 007 pails by comparison

Sad that you've lived your entire life afraid and wishing.

^^^^^^

 ;D

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Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders
Post by: falco on March 29, 2017, 10:53:26 AM
Eu faço ambos. Sou um bastardo de honra....  ;D

Desenrascas-te bem com o português. Muito bem.
Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders
Post by: falco on March 29, 2017, 10:56:29 AM
"Honorable" fellas dont try to act cute.

You claim to speak spanish. I reply to you in spanish since it's easier for me. Is that acting cute ,ese?
Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders
Post by: falco on March 29, 2017, 11:45:56 AM
Its no big deal sport. I was just fooling around with you because it's obvious you dont know spanish.
You not knowing what pollo loco means would be like me claiming to have lived in London yet never eard the song London bridge is falling down...
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Post by: Deadpool on March 29, 2017, 11:54:41 AM
Didn't know speaking spanish was something you'd argue about on a bodybuilding board.  that's too bad cause it was an interesting thread up to that point
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Post by: The Ugly on March 29, 2017, 12:25:01 PM
Its like youre arguing with me over whether the sky is baby blue, sky blue, or royal blue when i really couldnt care less and anything you say is just a waste of timem

Don't want to argue, but it seems the best blue for sky should be sky blue.
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Post by: tres_taco_combo on March 30, 2017, 09:22:24 PM
That's the first time I've ever heard anyone (John)  mention Torbugesic (aside from me). Torbugesic is what I figured out would work when the production of Nubian ended. Then I figured out a taper using Temgesic (which john also mentions as "Stadol", which was the American version, usually prescribed for migraines... Esp the nasal spray version......... Stadol/Temgesic's chemical is buprenorphine which was approved for trials and began to be prescribed for heroin/oxy/opiate addiction/withdrawal in '03/04, 2 yrs after I figured it would work for Nubian withdrawal haha. I should be patented it. Lol)...

Anyways, John also mentioned Paul Demayo and said he started with Nubian and went to heroin... Which isn't true. Paul started with percocet, went off when he got locked up, & got on Nubian when he got out. This is from Paul himself when I spoke with him shortly before he passed. Talked specifically about painkiller addiction. At the time he said he was clean and I'd been clean for an while but was still dealing with insomnia and anxiety. He was dead soon after from that new England heroin.


you ever fuck with Angel dust?

seems to be the most extreme drug out there  ??? ???
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Post by: Simple Simon on March 30, 2017, 09:52:28 PM

you ever fuck with Angel dust?

seems to be the most extreme drug out there  ??? ???

he eats angel dust for breakfast....
Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders
Post by: SF1900 on March 30, 2017, 10:36:32 PM
Didn't know speaking spanish was something you'd argue about on a bodybuilding board.  that's too bad cause it was an interesting thread up to that point

Getbiggers will argue about anything and everything with each other!  :D :D
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Post by: B R on March 30, 2017, 11:02:33 PM
Nobody believes anything you say. HTH.


Nope. That type of stuff i dont mess with. I used ketamine rarely. Used it "for fun"/recreationally only twice (maybe once??) First time i got it and maybe i tried it "for fun" once after... Every other time was when i was out of nubain and in withdrawal. Usually at night to put me to sleep till the morning when the pharmacy opened. Id shoot maybe 1/4-1/2cc iv and id have just enough time to take the needle cap out of my mouth and onto the needle before id lay down and into a k-hole unable to move for however many hours. (Watching documentary shows on NatGeo where they follow medics in Afghanistan, they'd load IED victims missing limbs into a chopper and to sedate guys really fucked up theyd give them 20mg ketamine IM... 1/4-1/2cc of my ketamine was 25-50mg, as i had 100mg/cc K). I never found it enjoyable, even in the small dose, and i never tried it with X ("kitty-flipping", also never "kandy-flipped" w/X+LSD, or "hippy-flipped" w/X+Shrooms).

Technically Angeldust/PCP is similar to Ketamine and DXM (they're disassociatives... So is weed). Those types of things arnt my thing. Only time i used DXM was to potentiate opiates,& the dose i'd use(60-80mgs) wasnt nearly enough to "trip" (that'd require at least 200mg+ for a guy my size to even reach the "1st plateau", of which i believe there are 4, going up to 1000mg+).

Funny story about ketamine... Told my gf at the time Bonnie (gorgeous Chinese girl from Hong Kong goingbto UCSD. Still miss that girl.. Anyways.), that i was headed down to mexico to do  my testosterone shot & her roommate "Mikey", gay guy who taught me bout finance & hownto Day-Trade, also going to UCSD, overheard and asked if i knew where to get Special-K/"Ketamina".  Told'em "no", but I'd ask. So, i go do my shot and asked about the K. (this was a Couple years b4 i bought into the pharm) they asked if i wanted Ketamina, or Keta-set. Said give me the better stuff. So i got 12 bottles of Keta-set, smuggled back 120cc of liquid, got home and cooked it up & put the powder n a little glass screwtop vial.

Went to Bonnie & Mikey's that Friday night and handed them the vial and their jaws dropped. Lol... I get asked "oh my god.. Wait, did you already cut it??".. Said no, its pure and still even a little wet so itll fluff up about 30% more aa it dries. Then Mikey's gay friend Miguel shows up with a couple kandy-raver white girls who'd go clubbing with us sometimes and they had the same reaction seeing the K i brought. Lol... Remember, I'd never done it, cooked it, or even seen it up till that day. Didn't even know what it costs. Turns out 2 little keybumps, less than the amount in a capsule of Benadryl is $20, so im handing around a vial of powder worth over $10k. Haha not a bad investment... Anyways, they all kinda looking at each other and eventually somebody asked, all sheepishly, if they could try a bump, so i offered some to everybody and to wrap up the story, everybody got fucked up and slept on thenfloor (except Bonnie & I. We only did a bump and went to the beach and got pizza after and crashed at my place. Lol).

Took me 4 - FUCKING - EVER to sell all that shit. Lol
Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders : Iron Rage on RXMuscle.com
Post by: Simple Simon on March 31, 2017, 12:57:30 AM
Nope. That type of stuff i dont mess with. I used ketamine rarely. Used it "for fun"/recreationally only twice (maybe once??) First time i got it and maybe i tried it "for fun" once after... Every other time was when i was out of nubain and in withdrawal. Usually at night to put me to sleep till the morning when the pharmacy opened. Id shoot maybe 1/4-1/2cc iv and id have just enough time to take the needle cap out of my mouth and onto the needle before id lay down and into a k-hole unable to move for however many hours. (Watching documentary shows on NatGeo where they follow medics in Afghanistan, they'd load IED victims missing limbs into a chopper and to sedate guys really fucked up theyd give them 20mg ketamine IM... 1/4-1/2cc of my ketamine was 25-50mg, as i had 100mg/cc K). I never found it enjoyable, even in the small dose, and i never tried it with X ("kitty-flipping", also never "kandy-flipped" w/X+LSD, or "hippy-flipped" w/X+Shrooms).

Technically Angeldust/PCP is similar to Ketamine and DXM (they're disassociatives... So is weed). Those types of things arnt my thing. Only time i used DXM was to potentiate opiates,& the dose i'd use(60-80mgs) wasnt nearly enough to "trip" (that'd require at least 200mg+ for a guy my size to even reach the "1st plateau", of which i believe there are 4, going up to 1000mg+).

Funny story about ketamine... Told my gf at the time Bonnie (gorgeous Chinese girl from Hong Kong goingbto UCSD. Still miss that girl.. Anyways.), that i was headed down to mexico to do  my testosterone shot & her roommate "Mikey", gay guy who taught me bout finance & hownto Day-Trade, also going to UCSD, overheard and asked if i knew where to get Special-K/"Ketamina".  Told'em "no", but I'd ask. So, i go do my shot and asked about the K. (this was a Couple years b4 i bought into the pharm) they asked if i wanted Ketamina, or Keta-set. Said give me the better stuff. So i got 12 bottles of Keta-set, smuggled back 120cc of liquid, got home and cooked it up & put the powder n a little glass screwtop vial.

Went to Bonnie & Mikey's that Friday night and handed them the vial and their jaws dropped. Lol... I get asked "oh my god.. Wait, did you already cut it??".. Said no, its pure and still even a little wet so itll fluff up about 30% more aa it dries. Then Mikey's gay friend Miguel shows up with a couple kandy-raver white girls who'd go clubbing with us sometimes and they had the same reaction seeing the K i brought. Lol... Remember, I'd never done it, cooked it, or even seen it up till that day. Didn't even know what it costs. Turns out 2 little keybumps, less than the amount in a capsule of Benadryl is $20, so im handing around a vial of powder worth over $10k. Haha not a bad investment... Anyways, they all kinda looking at each other and eventually somebody asked, all sheepishly, if they could try a bump, so i offered some to everybody and to wrap up the story, everybody got fucked up and slept on thenfloor (except Bonnie & I. We only did a bump and went to the beach and got pizza after and crashed at my place. Lol).

Took me 4 - FUCKING - EVER to sell all that shit. Lol

a yes or no would have been suffice.
Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders : Iron Rage on RXMuscle.com
Post by: Rascal full on March 31, 2017, 01:36:23 AM
a yes or no would have been suffice.

Not many people left putting an effort into this board at the moment, lets not discourage those that do.
Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders : Iron Rage on RXMuscle.com
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on March 31, 2017, 02:32:46 PM
Not many people left putting an effort into this board at the moment, lets not discourage those that do.
True, but every question leads into a wild story involving jail, earning huge money, and taking enough drugs to kill 1000 horses
Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders : Iron Rage on RXMuscle.com
Post by: Simple Simon on March 31, 2017, 02:42:54 PM
True, but every question leads into a wild story involving jail, earning huge money, and taking enough drugs to kill 1000 horses
yet still living in a shitty flat with a third world cooker.
Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders : Iron Rage on RXMuscle.com
Post by: TheShape. on March 31, 2017, 02:55:23 PM
Explain, in detail, what you claim is unbelieveable?

I see people like you, with random handles and few posts saying the same thing over and over yet NEVER explain.

Tells me you live the life of a loser, sitting on the sidelines. Probably living in some bumfuck midwestern town watching the world pass you by. People like you are like those who believe dinosaurs couldn'tt exist because theyve never seen one. pathetic
The guy who was apparently in prison and has done tons of drugs is calling people losers?  ???
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Post by: Zillotch on March 31, 2017, 02:56:00 PM
your entire persona on here, no one on earth has lived a life like yours

a wild story involving jail, earning huge money, and taking enough drugs to kill 1000 horses

U guys r wrong - why do u think this dude is living some type of extraordinary life? plenty of tards living the life... too stupid to have better options.
Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders : Iron Rage on RXMuscle.com
Post by: Simple Simon on April 01, 2017, 12:24:18 AM
U guys r wrong - why do u think this dude is living some type of extraordinary life? plenty of tards living the life... too stupid to have better options.

living the life?
there is s video on his instagram of him driving around in his car with a bunch of teenagers...
Seriously, hes almost 40....
Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 01, 2017, 09:59:00 AM
Never met a gym drug dealer that didn't also sell recreational drugs too.
Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders : Iron Rage on RXMuscle.com
Post by: Simple Simon on April 01, 2017, 10:02:33 AM
Teenagers? Sorry dipshit, they're all mid 20's and i we were going to an NA meeting.

And almost 40? Lol
People will watch the video and judge for themselves.
You look like a creepy old bloke ferrying around kids.
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Post by: The Ugly on April 01, 2017, 11:44:59 AM
People will watch the video and judge for themselves.
You look like a creepy old bloke ferrying around kids.

Two kinds of people in this world, friend.
Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders : Iron Rage on RXMuscle.com
Post by: Simple Simon on April 01, 2017, 11:50:10 AM
Two kinds of people in this world, friend.
no there isnt, there are millions of different kinds of people with many many personalities....
Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders : Iron Rage on RXMuscle.com
Post by: ESFitness on April 01, 2017, 11:52:54 AM
no there isnt, there are millions of different kinds of people with many many personalities....

No, there are.

Makers and Takers.

Doers and Wishers.

Realists and Idealists.

Winners and Losers.


That simple.
Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders : Iron Rage on RXMuscle.com
Post by: The Ugly on April 01, 2017, 11:55:00 AM
no there isnt, there are millions of different kinds of people with many many personalities....

They used to call them "schizos," yes. Which is one of the two kindsa people.
Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders : Iron Rage on RXMuscle.com
Post by: The Ugly on April 01, 2017, 11:57:38 AM
No, there are.

Makers and Takers.

Doers and Wishers.

Realists and Idealists.

Winners and Losers.


That simple.

That's eight kinds, bro. Now I'm confused.
Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders : Iron Rage on RXMuscle.com
Post by: Taffin on April 01, 2017, 11:58:15 AM
They used to call them "schizos," yes. Which is one of the two kindsa people.

"Shizzo's"  ???
Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders : Iron Rage on RXMuscle.com
Post by: Simple Simon on April 01, 2017, 12:11:43 PM
No, there are.

Makers and Takers.

Doers and Wishers.

Realists and Idealists.

Winners and Losers.


That simple.

said the guy who brandished a gun in a convenience store terrifying the staff and engaging the police in an armed standoff.
Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders : Iron Rage on RXMuscle.com
Post by: The Ugly on April 01, 2017, 12:32:06 PM
said the guy who brandished a gun in a convenience store terrifying the staff and engaging the police in an armed standoff.

Peaceful Surrenderers and Bobby Slys, two kinds.
Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders
Post by: ESFitness on April 01, 2017, 12:37:13 PM
That's eight kinds, bro. Now I'm confused.

Same kinds. Different terms.

Women

Girls

Chics

Bitches

Hoes

Broads

... Etc
Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders : Iron Rage on RXMuscle.com
Post by: Zillotch on April 01, 2017, 04:00:09 PM
living the life?

'the life':

(https://thedirty.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/DIRTY_phpET4y5F.jpg)
Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders : Iron Rage on RXMuscle.com
Post by: falco on April 03, 2017, 08:52:50 AM
No, there are.

Makers and Takers.

Doers and Wishers.

Realists and Idealists.

Winners and Losers.


That simple.

Maricones e cabrones.
Title: Re: Recreational Drug Use in Bodybuilders
Post by: falco on April 03, 2017, 08:56:05 AM
Same kinds. Different terms.

Women

Girls

Chics

Bitches

Hoes

Broads

... Etc

Muchachas

mujeres

 and last but not least:

đàn bà

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