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DC missed weight on the first attempt. Then came back two minutes later and made weight!
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DC missed weight on the first attempt. Then came back two minutes later and made weight!
Originally weighed 206.2 then came back 2 minutes later and weighed 205.
Scale tampering?
"Pushing down on towel" conspiracy?? ???
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Towel conspiracy seems possible.
Someone at home try it and let us know.
I'd do it but I don't have a towel
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Originally weighed 206.2 then came back 2 minutes later and weighed 205.
Scale tampering?
"Pushing down on towel" conspiracy?? ???
Maybe he dropped a 1.2 deuce of peace
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Towel conspiracy seems possible.
Someone at home try it and let us know.
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what about the white towel that Kai gave you?
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Towel conspiracy seems possible.
Someone at home try it and let us know.
I'd do it but I don't have a towel
Vegas has the contender as a slight favorite over the champ.
Should be a great fight.
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TowelGate looks to be a non issue with NYSAC
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i think its far more important that they get to fight than to bitch about being 1 pound over
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Maybe he dropped a 1.2 deuce of peace
I love that expression. ;D
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Towel conspiracy seems possible.
How does this work, push down on towel to lighten scale load?
Because he didn't seem to push, or even grip hard on the towel. And the holders weren't bracing for a pushdown, either.
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Maybe he dropped a 1.2 deuce of peace
Or took a massive piss and threw up? ???
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Or took a massive piss and threw up? ???
Im currently dropping around 7lbs overnight just by pissing.
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Or took a massive piss and threw up? ???
1.2 lbs.?
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Im currently dropping around 7lbs overnight just by pissing.
You're joking. but if you stop drinking water, you can lose a lot of weight really quickly as your body starts to, you know, die.
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You're joking. but if you stop drinking water, you can lose a lot of weight really quickly as your body starts to, you know, die.
no, not joking, going to bed weighing 14st 11lb waking up 14st 4lb, electronic scales dont recognise me.
Im drinking around 8-10 litres of water a day
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why are you drinking so much water?
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why are you drinking so much water?
so I can get up at least 4 times in the night to pee....
it gets on my Mrs nerves...
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"I dont know much about the NY commission, but its likely that they dont factor in decimals, Hence Cormier had to lose only 0.3 pounds.
Yes, they told him he was 206.2 with the decimal because they wanted to make it clear to him how much he was 'over' by. If you make weight the decimal isn't read. Well I'm basing this on the GSP incident in Canada, with correlation to Nevada.
Yea I read that Rumble came in at 203.8. Maybe if its under they read it anyways?
I'm pretty sure Cormier was given grace pounds (decimals) with accordance to the rules. Hard to believe that he cut down to exactly 205
Edit: Just checked out the entire weigh-ins list, and seems to make sense. There were fighters at 126, 156, 146, 116, and obviously Cormier at 205... these are basically the 'limit' for each of the fights, and hence featured no decimal. Meanwhile most of the other fighters weighed in with decimals.
Seems pretty clear from that, that they allow at least 0.5 in grace. Could be up to 0.9"
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1.2 lbs.?
Some dumps weight that much.
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Im currently dropping around 7lbs overnight just by pissing.
7lbs is almost a gallon of water .. that's a lot :o
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i drink 1-2 liters per day
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This is a scandal.
-First time DC weighed in he didn't touch the towel and was 206.3 (had to be 205 or under because this is a championship fight).
-Minutes later he weighs in again but this time he leans on the towel with both hands and weighs 205 (used old wrestlers trick to beat the scale, lost 1.3 lbs in seconds).
-Then the commission guy says that he leaned on the towel the first time he weighed in and not the second time (false, it was the opposite)
-He also says that using the towel would make him weigh more (once again false)
TLDR: DC used old wrestler trick to beat the scale and make weight
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The fact that gave away the cheating was they forgot to readjust the scales after cormier was down 1.2lbs on it and rumble weighed in at 203.8lbs, again 1.2lbs from what he realistulically was (205lbs), amateur hour cheating at the ufc ;D
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Cormier looked absolutely spent, must have been a brutal weight cut last 24 hours.
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This is a scandal.
-First time DC weighed in he didn't touch the towel and was 206.3 (had to be 205 or under because this is a championship fight).
-Minutes later he weighs in again but this time he leans on the towel with both hands and weighs 205 (used old wrestlers trick to beat the scale, lost 1.3 lbs in seconds).
-Then the commission guy says that he leaned on the towel the first time he weighed in and not the second time (false, it was the opposite)
-He also says that using the towel would make him weigh more (once again false)
TLDR: DC used old wrestler trick to beat the scale and make weight
Please explain "trick."
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One of the funniest weigh ins of all time. Yes you can make your self lighter by pushing down on the towel for a pound or two. What's to explain?
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Again the main question mark should be how come Rumbles weight, he weighed in directly after cormier magically dropped 1.2lbs on the scale in two minutes also come in exactly 1.2lbs on the scale under the weight he had to cut to, 205lbs.
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Seriously who gives a flying fuck if he missed by a few pounds. Let the show go on!!
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Seriously who gives a flying fuck if he missed by a few pounds. Let the show go on!!
Rumble won't get 20% of cormiers purse due to the fake weigh in, but on the other hand if cormier had not cheated, and cake in overweight, it would no longer be a title fight. Cormier looked drawn, tired and sluggish at the weigh in. Rumble will gas after the second round though so it's either an early rumble win or we see what cormier is really made of and if he can overcome an obvious bad weight cut to dominate rumble
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johnson is one of the most dangerous fighters out there for two rounds. then he always loses most of the time
hard to call i think age is catching up with dc he had a late start in mma
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One of the funniest weigh ins of all time. Yes you can make your self lighter by pushing down on the towel for a pound or two. What's to explain?
How it removes a 1.2 pounds for starters.
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How it removes a 1.2 pounds for starters.
I'm guessing that you "lean" on these 2 towels that are not supported by your weight and are being held up on either end by other people. You may be able to shave some ounces. Just my guess
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DC is corny as fuck. Can imaginenthe over/under on how many times "golly gee ahh shucks" is said in a conversation between him and rockhold. Besides that, DC is fucking fat. Even after dropping to lhw he's still fat.
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DC is corny as fuck. Can imaginenthe over/under on how many times "golly gee ahh shucks" is said in a conversation between him and rockhold. Besides that, DC is fucking fat. Even after dropping to lhw he's still fat.
DC would knock you out cold
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DC is corny as fuck. Can imaginenthe over/under on how many times "golly gee ahh shucks" is said in a conversation between him and rockhold. Besides that, DC is fucking fat. Even after dropping to lhw he's still fat.
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DC would knock you out cold
Typical response from somebody like you.
And rumble would rape you.
Anybody can be knocked out. Idiot
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Typical response from somebody like you.
And rumble would rape you.
Anybody can be knocked out. Idiot
They would both fucking piss on you so fuck your worthless input
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Some dumps weight that much.
ive done the gym dump weight, easy has a 2lb plus.
weight on the digi scale, take an epic #2 and weight in again
I love when my urine smells likes asparagus, i know i am hitting it hard
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They would both fucking piss on you so fuck your worthless input
Whatever you say. Standup for your fellow fatbody's.
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Typical response from somebody like you.
And rumble would rape you.
Anybody can be knocked out. Idiot
nah, not you, Im not having that for a second....
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Whatever you say. Standup for your fellow fatbody's.
you are the fatass with 3 chins pretending to be a tough guy on the internet. fuck you and your shitty life. and fuck your lies and your stupid stories.
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you are the fatass with 3 chins pretending to be a tough guy on the internet. fuck you and your shitty life. and fuck your lies and your stupid stories.
Small minded skinny-fat nobody who's never done anything or been anywhere. Plenty of your type around.
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Small minded skinny-fat nobody who's never done anything or been anywhere. Plenty of your type around.
childish never been in shape even on huge dosages of drugs fantasist living in a dreamworld of his own making, not many of you around...
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childish never been in shape even on huge dosages of drugs fantasist living in a dreamworld of his own making, not many of you around...
Childish? Your entire internet "persona" as you call it is childish. Fucking moron.
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Childish? Your entire internet "persona" as you call it is childish. Fucking moron.
exactly, its a persona.
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Small minded skinny-fat nobody who's never done anything or been anywhere. Plenty of your type around.
you failed in life. and you have no friends. admit it. that's why you come here with your boring stories.
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If he failed rot make the weight requirement, what would be the overall financial loss to both of the fighters and within the organization?
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I don't take kindly to disrespect. not on the internet, not in person, not in a grocery store parking lot, not in like at walmart, not in a restaurant, not at the beach, not at the dry cleaners... anywhere.
ppl talk about the 'pussyfication' of America, yet they run their mouths thinking they won't get slapped and get their arm broken in front of their friends.
spent many yrs in a place where if you talk slick and say something out of line to somebody, you know that when you say it, you better be ready for what happens. most ppl here in the 'real world', aren't ready for what could happen.. and run their mouths like the world is a make believe cartoon. despite wearing nice slacks, polished shoes and a nice shirt, the guy you steal that parking spot from at the grocery store and proceed to flip off, may have just gotten out of prison and will have no problem identifying they bitch in you and proceed to teach you a lesson by taking you down to the ground and kicking out your teeth before you even know what happened.
the guy who's willing to go the furthest, wins. if you're not willing to go all the way, it's best you keep your mouth shut and move on, and make it to the next day.
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How it removes a 1.2 pounds for starters.
Try it yourself with an electronic scale pushing on your bathroom counter. Also they didn't let the weight settle. As soon as he hit the weight they announced it.
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Try it yourself with an electronic scale pushing on your bathroom counter. Also they didn't let the weight settle. As soon as he hit the weight they announced it.
Stronger case if the loosely held towel he barely gripped were a bathroom counter.
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I don't take kindly to disrespect. not on the internet, not in person, not in a grocery store parking lot, not in like at walmart, not in a restaurant, not at the beach, not at the dry cleaners... anywhere.
ppl talk about the 'pussyfication' of America, yet they run their mouths thinking they won't get slapped and get their arm broken in front of their friends.
spent many yrs in a place where if you talk slick and say something out of line to somebody, you know that when you say it, you better be ready for what happens. most ppl here in the 'real world', aren't ready for what could happen.. and run their mouths like the world is a make believe cartoon. despite wearing nice slacks, polished shoes and a nice shirt, the guy you steal that parking spot from at the grocery store and proceed to flip off, may have just gotten out of prison and will have no problem identifying they bitch in you and proceed to teach you a lesson by taking you down to the ground and kicking out your teeth before you even know what happened.
the guy who's willing to go the furthest, wins. if you're not willing to go all the way, it's best you keep your mouth shut and move on, and make it to the next day.
I'm playing with fire :)
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anyone have the link for a good stream?
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And still ...
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I'm glad that Daniel Cormier didn't win by decision. and was a able to finish Rumble
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mousasi weidman was sick until it got stopped
i still dont get why the fight was actually canceled... did the doctor deem him unable to continue?
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this has been a bad year for the ufc, so far, none of there ppvs have sold for shit.
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Sad ending to a great career.
Rumbles coaches abandoning him during his retirement-speech
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mousasi weidman was sick until it got stopped
i still dont get why the fight was actually canceled... did the doctor deem him unable to continue?
That whole thing was mess. Even if the fight resumed, I think Mousasi would have finished Weidman. Mousasi unloads when he backs his opponent against the fence.
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The fix is in. First the weigh in, then the game plan.
Big money in jones vs Cormier
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Lets get real now, who cares about Cormier and Johson?
The real fight was Mousasi vs Weidman. We got to witness what a little bitch Weidman is, seeking to knowingly exploit the rules not to get knee'd in the head, only to backfire brutally.
People who put their hands down knowingly to avoid knees whilst goating others to throw it should be executed on sight, same fate for fencegrabbers and eyepokes.
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Lets get real now, who cares about Cormier and Johson?
The real fight was Mousasi vs Weidman. We got to witness what a little bitch Weidman is, seeking to knowingly exploit the rules not to get knee'd in the head, only to backfire brutally.
People who put their hands down knowingly to avoid knees whilst goating others to throw it should be executed on sight, same fate for fencegrabbers and eyepokes.
you are so fucking tough
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Lets get real now, who cares about Cormier and Johson?
The real fight was Mousasi vs Weidman. We got to witness what a little bitch Weidman is, seeking to knowingly exploit the rules not to get knee'd in the head, only to backfire brutally.
People who put their hands down knowingly to avoid knees whilst goating others to throw it should be executed on sight, same fate for fencegrabbers and eyepokes.
yeah he fucked up getting into that position to begin with.
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yeah he fucked up getting into that position to begin with.
Exactly, and it has been exploited too many times. Putting your hands, knowingly, on the floor to avoid certain strikes from being thrown is something entirely different from protecting fighters from damage they cannot block or see coming. The fact he admitted to wanting to place his hands on the floor in an attempt to prevent knees in the post-fight says enough about his intention to exploit the rules. Backfired big time.
you are so fucking tough
Go back to insulting ESFitness, you mongrol.
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Exactly, and it has been exploited too many times. Putting your hands, knowingly, on the floor to avoid certain strikes from being thrown is something entirely different from protecting fighters from damage they cannot block or see coming. The fact he admitted to wanting to place his hands on the floor in an attempt to prevent knees in the post-fight says enough about his intention to exploit the rules. Backfired big time.
Go back to insulting ESFitness, you mongrol.
from a guy who's MMA record is 0-0
Shut your mouth. Weidman is 1000 times the man you'll ever be
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from a guy who's MMA record is 0-0
Shut your mouth. Weidman is 1000 times the man you'll ever be
Hi, Chris' dad. Is he still your boy? Is god still OK?
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Hi, Chris' dad. Is he still your boy? Is god still OK?
yeah my boy is good and he is still a millionaire and you're a bitch working a full time job like a slave. but thanks for asking.
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Im guessing you're about 22yrs old and live with your parents, train in a garage with cement/plastic weights, watch "babes" porn genre's (& can even name your top 3 favorite porn stars) & spend your money on video games.
Btw, my mma record is 13-5 201 & over and 0-2 200 & below, in case you're keeping score @ home.
and this is written down where?
Can you post links to the site where this official record is posted.
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and this is written down where?
Can you post links to the site where this official record is posted.
Im pretty sure this is not real life...
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Next time you're never in mexico feel free to stop by and see the fights in Tijuana or Mexicali or any other major city nearly every weekend. Notice the weight classes? Maybe you could man up and make a couple hundred bucks for getting tappednout. Plenty of brazillians amd russians down there figjting cuz they cant get sanctioned im the u.s. they could use the practice... And a good laugh at the same time.
So its not written down anywhere?
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So its not written down anywhere?
of course it isn't, hes made it all up..... ;D
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Next thing will be you saying i claim to be heavyweight champion of the weekend fights in tijuana.
Look numbnuts, you claimed a fight record that isn't written down anywhere, that means it isn't a fight record, its just you saying its a fight record.
I have a fight record of 23 and 0 with 23 stoppages in the first round.
see, its easy.
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and this is written down where?
Found it written down in this link. (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=575436.msg8761223#msg8761223)
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Btw, my mma record is 13-5 201 & over and 0-2 200 & below, in case you're keeping score @ home.
;D You're fucking comedy gold fair play!
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Look numbnuts, you claimed a fight record that isn't written down anywhere, that means it isn't a fight record, its just you saying its a fight record.
I have a fight record of 23 and 0 with 23 stoppages in the first round.
see, its easy.
;D
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I am 0-40 in da cage
Trained strikeforce and tapout for 2 months and got a brown belt in tapout and bellator
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i once ran away from a fight so i consider that a draw. 0-1-0 record.
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i once ran away from a fight so i consider that a draw. 0-1-0 record.
Also, what happens In da Streets (No judges! Higher risk! No salary! No sponsors! No PPV!) is worth more than in da Cage, so your record would in effect be 0-20-0.
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I farted on a guy in public without him knowing...my record is 10000 - 0
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Im guessing you're about 22yrs old and live with your parents, train in a garage with cement/plastic weights, watch "babes" porn genre's (& can even name your top 3 favorite porn stars) & spend your money on video games.
Btw, my mma record is 13-5 201 & over and 0-2 200 & below, in case you're keeping score @ home.
You must be on sherdog fight finder so. I am and I only fought twice professionally. So is Josh I believe. His fight is on YouTube too I think. You're full of shit however.
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You must be on sherdog fight finder so. I am and I only fought twice professionally. So is Josh I believe. His fight is on YouTube too I think. You're full of shit however.
Yep, Josh's record is on Sherdog.
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No answer no? You can manage to fill 35 sentences on your beard but when called out on something you fall silent..
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Dude, theres fights in mexico damn near every weekend. Any of you numbnuts can pay your $50 and enter. Similar to what used to go on in the midwest and on indian reservations. Take a high school wrestling team from sioux city IA or Mankato MN and within a few months of them turning 18 theyve already got 2 fights. Some of you ppl must never leave your basements, much less your state.
record
"set down in writing or some other permanent form for later reference."
now, wheres your fight record....?
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You must be on sherdog fight finder so. I am and I only fought twice professionally. So is Josh I believe. His fight is on YouTube too I think. You're full of shit however.
Check Sherdog under the name "the Guitar stringed assassin"
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Check Sherdog under the name "the Guitar stringed assassin"
I'm on Sherdog too
Link (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Joseph-Bochenek-832)
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Dude, theres fights in mexico damn near every weekend. Any of you numbnuts can pay your $50 and enter. Similar to what used to go on in the midwest and on indian reservations. Take a high school wrestling team from sioux city IA or Mankato MN and within a few months of them turning 18 theyve already got 2 fights. Some of you ppl must never leave your basements, much less your state.
and when they announce you where do they get your fight record from?
and when fights are arranged where do promoters/managers look to get fighters history so they can match their fighters properly?
Your stories want a fucking crutch to hold them up mate.
Your whole fucking life is a lie.
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It's funny watching EVERY G&O thread swerve hard off-topic to keyboard Donkey Kongs beating their virtual chests. (No offense, DK)
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Happy for DC, but bummed Rumble went out like that. Quit before he retired - REALLY didn't wanna get hit in there at all. Looked panicky whenever there was any distance. Damn shame, too, with those hands he has.
And Weidman's probably done. Looked bad, his stand up's slow and sloppy. He was already in trouble before the knee. Seems he was angling for a DQ. I like the guy, but he doesn't have it anymore.
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You people have never heard of smokers? These arnt sanctioned fights. It aint a big production and it aint like the UFC. Nobody's picture is on flyers or posters. Anybody can fight. Lotta Marines and football players. Lotta samoans from UCSD or SDSU. Show up & sign up. Agree to "terms" like if you want pads/headgear. You can fight bareknuckle if You want, though i never have, always with wraps. You can turn down a fight if the other guy doesnt want to wrap hands or wear gloves. Its not "nhb", as theres basic rules like groin/eyes/soccer kicks etc. Usually 3x3min or 3x5 or 1x10. Most guys gas quick. Notbmuch for weight classes. Usually it was over/under 200 but you can get matched closer below 200. My last 2 were the first time i fought under 200 and outweighed thenguys by 20+lbs and got knocked out in both.. 1 week apart. Got into it back in 03 after a buddy of mine invited me to train with him and his friends... Mostly so they couldbuse me as a live training dummy since i outweighed them by at least 30lbs, if not 50lbs for some, & theyd tie menin knots for a few hours a week and could absord strikes sparring. Till then my exp was mostly kickboxing. Few weeks later there was some guy from brazil that had gotten to town and staying in sd whod recently medaled i the pan-am games (i forget if it were bjj or judo, what medal, or what class) and he and some other guys (guys from russia or ukraine or something) were gonna go to TJnand fight and said i should come watch. So i did amd saw the kind of guys who fought. Not long after i tried it myself. Primarily ground and pound wins and submission grappling. Didnt cut weight at first but after a while i foundnif i cut down to 220 rather than 240 i didnt gas as quick. Especially against fat 260lb samoan football players who were akward and no technique but had way better cardio. Couple times i just quit going into the 2nd orn3rd because incouldnt breath.
look mate, just fuck off with your bullshit.
All that waffle establishes is that you dont have a fight record and thats that.
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look mate, just fuck off with your bullshit.
All that waffle establishes is that you dont have a fight record and thats that.
Are you admitting that you haven't heard about these smokers? That noone has ever heard of? Cause if so, then that's obviously your loss bro. Cause if you had known, you would've realized how legit his record is, and that basically he could've easily won the UFC all weightclasses, cause there were people coming from Europe, New Zealand and South America bro. Like seriously, it's the most legitist legit fight record in the biz, obviously you don't get out much and live a boring life.
Also, ESFitness obviously is well aware of his shortcomings, as he admitted to poor cardio at above 220lbs, so he was smart and cutted down so he wouldn't gas against top tier contenders. Why would he lie if he admits to this? Also, he was totally in control of the heroine, and that was while he was shooting up more than anyone alive could survive, bar him ofcourse. Also, haven't you heard? Well I guess you haven't. Cause noone fucking has.
:D :D :D
The guy's multi-paragraph responses are pure ramble, and he spouts them out without anyone asking or addressing him. Hell, the fightrecord comment was directed at me, but here you have the lying shitbag respond in 3 paragraphs why he is in fact legitimate and with a fightrecord. Desperately seeking recognition. ::)
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apparently, Weidman answered some questions wrong when he was being examined by the doctor. In the octagon, the Dr asked Weidman what month it was. Weidman said "February".
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apparently, Weidman answered some questions wrong when he was being examined by the doctor. In the octagon, the Dr asked Weidman what month it was. Weidman said "February".
It's ok man, God is still ok, so Weidman will be ok.
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Where do you losers come up with this me saying I wasn't addicted to heroin? Fucks can't read or you just make up your own version to fit your trolling. The way you two at things to fit your little naritive is pathetic. Such as guys coming over just to fight there. Idiot's. Tjatslike saying Andre arlovski came over just to fight on indian reservations.
And cutting down from 240 to 220 took me maybe a week. Not like I was ever training for any specific fight since you don't know who you're fighting till you get there. You losers never been to a Toughman fight? Jesus Christ its like its 5000yrs ago and I'm telling you bums the earth is round and you fucks say it can't be because you've never seen it.
A more fitting scenario would be you insisting the earth is flat, whilst the rest of us laugh at you.
In any case, you don't come off as a particularly intelligent guy, so you would fail to persuade me regardless. The only thing markedly entertaining about you is the fact you continuously, desperately, seek to justify and assert yourself. Generating multi-paragraph responses, even when not addressed directly, flaunting stories hardly anyone deems credible and crumble under scrutiny. :-*
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It's ok man, God is still ok, so Weidman will be ok.
you are 0-0 you fucking coward. always will be 0-0. You're probably jerking off to flex wheelers ass right now.
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you are 0-0 you fucking coward. always will be 0-0. You're probably jerking off to flex wheelers ass right now.
Struck a nerve did I? You from New York? Do you feel so closely associated to Weidman that it keeps you up at night; knowing he was absolutely destroyed 3 times in a row?
Jog on Chris, a switch to Bellator might be the answer.
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Struck a nerve did I? You from New York? Do you feel so closely associated to Weidman that it keeps you up at night; knowing he was absolutely destroyed 3 times in a row?
Jog on Chris, a switch to Bellator might be the answer.
you were the one who wanted to discuss Weidman. I made this thread about Cormier. You just posted in this thread so you could put down actual fighers. Nobody wants your opinions. Weidman and Cormier have both won championship fights. you have won nothing. you have jealously in your heart and mind. you are too afraid to fight. Too afraid to compete. Have fun at work today chump.
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you were the one who wanted to discuss Weidman. I made this thread about Cormier. You just posted in this thread so you could put down actual fighers. Nobody wants your opinions. Weidman and Cormier have both won championship fights. you have won nothing. you have jealously in your heart and mind. you are too afraid to fight. Too afraid to compete. Have fun at work today chump.
Yes, Cormier has as of yet not had his face smashed in, nor sought to pro-actively abuse the rules. Good on him, many more years to come hopefully.
As for Weidman, he's practically done, Rockhold dismantled him, Romero added onto it, and Mousasi put the finishing touches. Those are facts regardless of my personal experience in fightsports ::). So suck it up buttercup. Your boy lost.
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Hard times mentally for Weidman now.
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you were the one who wanted to discuss Weidman. I made this thread about Cormier. You just posted in this thread so you could put down actual fighers. Nobody wants your opinions. Weidman and Cormier have both won championship fights. you have won nothing. you have jealously in your heart and mind. you are too afraid to fight. Too afraid to compete. Have fun at work today chump.
Good news buddy, the New Revised Hero Worship for Dummies, 3rd Edition is being released early next week!
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