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Brilliant!!!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2017/04/26/ted-cruz-el-chapo-should-pay-for-the-border-wall-n2318612%3Famp%3Dtrue
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newsflash!!
no wall is coming!
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newsflash!!
no wall is coming!
Because liberals want the complete opposite of whats best for this country?
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newsflash!!
no wall is coming!
the wall will be built.. come on bro... you wish.
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Because liberals want the complete opposite of whats best for this country?
Because you live in fantasy land and believe dumpfs lies.
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Because you live in fantasy land and believe dumpfs lies.
So follow fags like obama Perez and Clinton ?
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Let Trump start a GoFundMe page for his followers to pay for the wall.
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So it's ok to take money from someone the government has deemed "bad", to pay for federal things.
I am pretty sure that is against the law.
However, let's take Ted's idea and expand a little, because using a private person's funds to specifically build something is pretty much not happening.
What if the US government stopped fighting the war on drugs? Maybe they could divert some of that money to the wall.
Or wait... Make all drugs legal and let the tax money cover the wall itself. Oh my word... What a novel idea.
Save money by not funding a useless organization like the DEA as a police force and let the FDA make sure that drug manufacturers and distributors are accountable, let it be sold... let the taxes pay for something you want.
How about that?
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So follow fags like obama Perez and Clinton ?
No. You must believe the lies, I don't.
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Let Trump start a GoFundMe page for his followers to pay for the wall.
That's a great idea. Only problem is half of his supporters can't afford teeth.
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No. You must believe the lies, I don't.
But you had no problem with this?
Fuck, you're an idiot. How do you even function?
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Tossing some red meat out to his base.
Shrewd political move by Cruz.
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So it's ok to take money from someone the government has deemed "bad", to pay for federal things.
I am pretty sure that is against the law.
However, let's take Ted's idea and expand a little, because using a private person's funds to specifically build something is pretty much not happening.
What if the US government stopped fighting the war on drugs? Maybe they could divert some of that money to the wall.
Or wait... Make all drugs legal and let the tax money cover the wall itself. Oh my word... What a novel idea.
Save money by not funding a useless organization like the DEA as a police force and let the FDA make sure that drug manufacturers and distributors are accountable, let it be sold... let the taxes pay for something you want.
How about that?
You wasted a lot of time typing that up.
HTH
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But you had no problem with this?
Fuck, you're an idiot. How do you even function?
I function fine and unlike you can form thoughts. You have the intelligence of a single cell organism...can't even embed a video, simpleton.
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I function fine and unlike you can form thoughts. You have the intelligence of a single cell organism...can't even embed a video, simpleton.
single celled* organism
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Brilliant!!!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2017/04/26/ted-cruz-el-chapo-should-pay-for-the-border-wall-n2318612%3Famp%3Dtrue
so what's stopping Ted Cruz from making that happen?
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so what's stopping Ted Cruz from making that happen?
Why are leftists/leninists like yourself so in favor of millions of illegals?
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Why are leftists/leninists like yourself so in favor of millions of illegals?
I'm not
why are you trying to change the subject of this thread
Cruz says El Chapo should pay for the wall
fine with me
what is Cruz doing to make that happen?
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so what's stopping Ted Cruz from making that happen?
He only announced it 3 days ago. Troll.
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The money El Chapo has would technically go to Mexico. Cruz is a moron
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The money El Chapo has would technically go to Mexico. Cruz is a moron
Go tell him how it's done, Vince
Ted Cruz
Ted Cruz, official portrait, 113th Congress.jpg
United States Senator
from Texas
Incumbent
Assumed office
January 3, 2013
Serving with John Cornyn
Preceded by Kay Bailey Hutchison
Solicitor General of Texas
In office
January 9, 2003 – May 12, 2008
Governor Rick Perry
Preceded by Julie Parsley
Succeeded by James Ho
Personal details
Born Rafael Edward Cruz
December 22, 1970 (age 46)
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Political party Republican
Spouse(s) Heidi Nelson (m. 2001)
Relations Rafael Cruz (Father)
Children 2
Education Princeton University (BA)
Harvard University (JD)
Signature
Website Senate website
Rafael Edward "Ted" Cruz /ˈkruːz/ (born December 22, 1970) is an American politician and attorney, who has served as the junior United States Senator from Texas since 2013.[1] He was a candidate for the Republican nomination for President of the United States in the 2016 election.
Cruz graduated from Princeton University, New Jersey, in 1992, and from Harvard Law School, Massachusetts, in 1995. From 1999 to 2003, he served in various political appointee positions: the Director of the Office of Policy Planning at the Federal Trade Commission (FTC), an Associate Deputy Attorney General at the United States Department of Justice, and a Domestic Policy Advisor to George W. Bush on the 2000 George W. Bush Presidential campaign.
Cruz served as Solicitor General of Texas, from 2003 to 2008, appointed by Texas Attorney General, Greg Abbott. He was the first Hispanic, and the longest-serving, Solicitor General in Texas history. From 2004 to 2009, Cruz was an Adjunct Professor at the University of Texas School of Law in Austin, Texas, where he taught U.S. Supreme Court litigation.
Cruz ran for the Senate seat vacated by fellow Republican Kay Bailey Hutchison and, in July 2012, defeated Lieutenant Governor David Dewhurst during the Republican primary runoff, 57–43%. He defeated former State Representative Paul Sadler in the November 2012 general election, winning 56–41%. He is the first Hispanic American to serve as a U.S. Senator representing Texas, and is one of three senators of Cuban descent. He chairs the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Oversight, Federal Rights and Agency Activities, and is the Chairman of the Senate Commerce Subcommittee on Space, Science and Competitiveness. In November 2012, he was appointed Vice-Chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee.
Cruz began campaigning for the Republican presidential nomination in March 2015.[2] During the primary campaign, his base of support was strongest with "women, white evangelical Protestants, people over the age of 50, and those who identified themselves as conservatives",[3] though he had crossover appeal to other factions within his party, including libertarian conservatives and millennials.[4]
Cruz's victory in the February 2016 Iowa caucuses marked the first time a Hispanic person won a U.S. presidential caucus or primary. He eventually emerged as the main challenger to frontrunner Donald Trump. He suspended his campaign for president on May 3, 2016, after losing the Republican primary in Indiana to Trump.[5]
Early life and family
Education
Cruz attended two private high schools: Faith West Academy in Katy, Texas;[28] and Second Baptist High School in Houston, from which he graduated as valedictorian in 1988.[17][29][30] During high school, Cruz participated in a Houston-based group known at the time as the Free Market Education Foundation, a program that taught high school students the philosophies of economists such as Milton Friedman and Frédéric Bastiat.[23][31]
Cruz graduated cum laude from Princeton University in 1992 with a Bachelor of Arts in Public Policy[32] from the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs.[6][33] While at Princeton, he competed for the American Whig-Cliosophic Society's Debate Panel and won the top speaker award at both the 1992 U.S. National Debating Championship and the 1992 North American Debating Championship.[34] In 1992, he was named U.S. National Speaker of the Year and, with his debate partner David Panton, also Team of the Year by the American Parliamentary Debate Association.[34] Cruz and Panton later represented Harvard Law School at the 1995 World Debating Championship, losing in the semi-finals to a team from Australia.[35][36][37] Princeton's debate team named their annual novice championship after Cruz.[37]
Cruz's senior thesis at Princeton investigated the separation of powers; its title, Clipping the Wings of Angels, draws its inspiration from a passage attributed to US President James Madison: "If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary." Cruz argued that the drafters of the Constitution intended to protect the rights of their constituents, and that the last two items in the Bill of Rights offer an explicit stop against an all-powerful state.[14][38]
After graduating from Princeton, Cruz attended Harvard Law School, graduating magna cum laude in 1995 with a Juris Doctor degree.[6][39] While at Harvard Law, he was a primary editor of the Harvard Law Review, an executive editor of the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy, and a founding editor of the Harvard Latino Law Review.[33] Referring to Cruz's time as a student at Harvard Law, Professor Alan Dershowitz said, "Cruz was off-the-charts brilliant".[40][41][42][43] At Harvard Law, Cruz was a John M. Olin Fellow in Law and Economics.[44]
Cruz serves on the Board of Advisors of the Texas Review of Law and Politics.[45]
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Go tell him how it's done, Vince
Ted Cruz
Ted Cruz, official portrait, 113th Congress.jpg
United States Senator
from Texas
Incumbent
Assumed office
January 3, 2013
Serving with John Cornyn
Preceded by Kay Bailey Hutchison
Solicitor General of Texas
In office
January 9, 2003 – May 12, 2008
Governor Rick Perry
Preceded by Julie Parsley
Succeeded by James Ho
Personal details
Born Rafael Edward Cruz
December 22, 1970 (age 46)
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Political party Republican
Spouse(s) Heidi Nelson (m. 2001)
Relations Rafael Cruz (Father)
Children 2
Education Princeton University (BA)
Harvard University (JD)
Signature
Website Senate website
Rafael Edward "Ted" Cruz /ˈkruːz/ (born December 22, 1970) is an American politician and attorney, who has served as the junior United States Senator from Texas since 2013.[1] He was a candidate for the Republican nomination for President of the United States in the 2016 election.
Cruz graduated from Princeton University, New Jersey, in 1992, and from Harvard Law School, Massachusetts, in 1995. From 1999 to 2003, he served in various political appointee positions: the Director of the Office of Policy Planning at the Federal Trade Commission (FTC), an Associate Deputy Attorney General at the United States Department of Justice, and a Domestic Policy Advisor to George W. Bush on the 2000 George W. Bush Presidential campaign.
Cruz served as Solicitor General of Texas, from 2003 to 2008, appointed by Texas Attorney General, Greg Abbott. He was the first Hispanic, and the longest-serving, Solicitor General in Texas history. From 2004 to 2009, Cruz was an Adjunct Professor at the University of Texas School of Law in Austin, Texas, where he taught U.S. Supreme Court litigation.
Cruz ran for the Senate seat vacated by fellow Republican Kay Bailey Hutchison and, in July 2012, defeated Lieutenant Governor David Dewhurst during the Republican primary runoff, 57–43%. He defeated former State Representative Paul Sadler in the November 2012 general election, winning 56–41%. He is the first Hispanic American to serve as a U.S. Senator representing Texas, and is one of three senators of Cuban descent. He chairs the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Oversight, Federal Rights and Agency Activities, and is the Chairman of the Senate Commerce Subcommittee on Space, Science and Competitiveness. In November 2012, he was appointed Vice-Chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee.
Cruz began campaigning for the Republican presidential nomination in March 2015.[2] During the primary campaign, his base of support was strongest with "women, white evangelical Protestants, people over the age of 50, and those who identified themselves as conservatives",[3] though he had crossover appeal to other factions within his party, including libertarian conservatives and millennials.[4]
Cruz's victory in the February 2016 Iowa caucuses marked the first time a Hispanic person won a U.S. presidential caucus or primary. He eventually emerged as the main challenger to frontrunner Donald Trump. He suspended his campaign for president on May 3, 2016, after losing the Republican primary in Indiana to Trump.[5]
Early life and family
Education
Cruz attended two private high schools: Faith West Academy in Katy, Texas;[28] and Second Baptist High School in Houston, from which he graduated as valedictorian in 1988.[17][29][30] During high school, Cruz participated in a Houston-based group known at the time as the Free Market Education Foundation, a program that taught high school students the philosophies of economists such as Milton Friedman and Frédéric Bastiat.[23][31]
Cruz graduated cum laude from Princeton University in 1992 with a Bachelor of Arts in Public Policy[32] from the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs.[6][33] While at Princeton, he competed for the American Whig-Cliosophic Society's Debate Panel and won the top speaker award at both the 1992 U.S. National Debating Championship and the 1992 North American Debating Championship.[34] In 1992, he was named U.S. National Speaker of the Year and, with his debate partner David Panton, also Team of the Year by the American Parliamentary Debate Association.[34] Cruz and Panton later represented Harvard Law School at the 1995 World Debating Championship, losing in the semi-finals to a team from Australia.[35][36][37] Princeton's debate team named their annual novice championship after Cruz.[37]
Cruz's senior thesis at Princeton investigated the separation of powers; its title, Clipping the Wings of Angels, draws its inspiration from a passage attributed to US President James Madison: "If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary." Cruz argued that the drafters of the Constitution intended to protect the rights of their constituents, and that the last two items in the Bill of Rights offer an explicit stop against an all-powerful state.[14][38]
After graduating from Princeton, Cruz attended Harvard Law School, graduating magna cum laude in 1995 with a Juris Doctor degree.[6][39] While at Harvard Law, he was a primary editor of the Harvard Law Review, an executive editor of the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy, and a founding editor of the Harvard Latino Law Review.[33] Referring to Cruz's time as a student at Harvard Law, Professor Alan Dershowitz said, "Cruz was off-the-charts brilliant".[40][41][42][43] At Harvard Law, Cruz was a John M. Olin Fellow in Law and Economics.[44]
Cruz serves on the Board of Advisors of the Texas Review of Law and Politics.[45]
El Chapo's crimes are in Mexico, his money is in Mexico, he's a Mexican citizen, and he was arrested in Mexico.....yet you actually believe that the United States would be entitled to his ill gotten gains... ::)
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El Chapo's crimes are in Mexico, his money is in Mexico, he's a Mexican citizen, and he was arrested in Mexico.....yet you actually believe that the United States would be entitled to his ill gotten gains... ::)
His crimes cross the boarders from Mexico into the US most of the drugs brought into the US are supplied by him. He is in our custody and more than likely has holdings in our country. We own him. I'm not an attorney and neither are you, Cruz is but.
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single celled* organism
Yes
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His crimes cross the boarders from Mexico into the US most of the drugs brought into the US are supplied by him. He is in our custody and more than likely has holdings in our country. We own him. I'm not an attorney and neither are you, Cruz is but.
Those holdings have already been seized but it definitely isn't the billions he's holding in Mexico...most of it in cash. El Chapo being in our custody makes no difference in determining where his money goes.....and Cruz is a moron if he thinks that the Mexican Government would simply stand by and say nothing....nor the fact that the Sinaloa Cartel would not carry out revenge for it.
We're going to have a wall but its going to be paid by us
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Let Trump start a GoFundMe page for his followers to pay for the wall.
To be fair most of his "followers" are already paying/have paid the taxes for the wall to be built.
Followers is what you have on Facebook. It's called his constituency.
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Tossing some red meat out to his base.
Shrewd political move by Cruz.
great point
his base base of morons love being fed bullshit that will never happen
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great point
his base base of morons love being fed bullshit that will never happen
Says the fan of Bernie sanders and lezbo Warren.
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Says the fan of Bernie sanders and lezbo Warren.
thanks for chiming in for your fellow Trumptard morons
does Lying Ted have any actual plan?
You'd think he and the guy who accused his father of killing Kennedy and said his wife was a pig could get
together to figure this out
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thanks for chiming in for your fellow Trumptard morons
does Lying Ted have any actual plan?
You'd think him and they guy who accused his father of killing Kennedy and said his wife was a pig could get
together to figure this out
I'll bet you voted for Killary based on her honesty and integrity, didn't you?
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I'll bet you voted for Killary based on her honesty and integrity, didn't you?
you mean the same reason you voted for Trump
I voted for Bernie in the primary and I voted against Trump in the general election (just like a majority of voters in this country)
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you mean the same reason you voted for Trump
I voted for Bernie in the primary and I voted against Trump in the general election (just like a majority of voters in this country)
Yes, that is one of the reasons I voted for Trump. So you have your own business yet voted for a self proclaimed socialist. So you're in business not because you're a capitalist but rather to work for the government. Explain this.
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Yes, that is one of the reasons I voted for Trump. So you have your own business yet voted for a self proclaimed socialist. So you're in business not because you're a capitalist but rather to work for the government. Explain this.
I'll make it VERY simple for you though I doubt you'll understand (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt just be bothering to respond)
I voted for Bernie because I preferred him over Hillary. That' doesn't mean that I agree with everything he says just like I assume you don't agree with everything Trump (or anyone else) says. You do have the capability for independent thought...right?
Voted for Hillary in the general because Trump is a liar and a con man and totally unqualified for the job he now holds
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I'll make it VERY simple for you though I doubt you'll understand (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt just be bothering to respond)
I voted for Bernie because I preferred him over Hillary. That' doesn't mean that I agree with everything he says just like I assume you don't agree with everything Trump (or anyone else) says. You do have the capability for independent thought...right?
Voted for Hillary in the general because Trump is a liar and a con man and totally unqualified for the job he now holds
So you just picked one socialist over another with almost the same platform? Ok, I'll give you that Sanders was probably the most honest one running, he told you exactly how he was going to fuck upbthe country. So I'll ask again. Especially being a small business why would you vote to have your money taken from you?
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I wish my tax dollars were going towards a wall :'(
(https://i.redd.it/gubghk0iaruy.gif)
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So you just picked one socialist over another with almost the same platform? Ok, I'll give you that Sanders was probably the most honest one running, he told you exactly how he was going to fuck upbthe country. So I'll ask again. Especially being a small business why would you vote to have your money taken from you?
I hope you don't consider your self a business owner. You are a high school janitor?
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I hope you don't consider your self a business owner. You are a high school janitor?
You're having a real tough time aren't you?
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I wish my tax dollars were going towards a wall :'(
let's pretend the wall is done
how do you imagine your life has improved?
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let's pretend the wall is done
how do you imagine your life has improved?
erections lasting longer than 4 hours
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erections lasting longer than 4 hours
I try to treat you like and adult and ask you a serious question and this is what you've got?
thanks for reminding me again you're not really interested in having a discussion much less a debate and also a great example of why this board sucks most of the time
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The infamous " Area 51" , the US secret test base has no wall and is HIGHLY secure.
Anyone who dares to breech the perimeter is immediately apprehended.
Even the air space above/around is totally secure. I suspect most of our nuclear facilities
have similar security??
The high tech "electronic fence" is a much better barrier.
I actually worked on a ASP ( ammunition supply point) security detail in the USMC for 4 months.
It was pretty dull 99% of the time, and we guarded the stock pile of weapons on the base.
They were stored in large , earthen bunkers with thick , steel blast doors.
My duty involved fairly mundane stuff like M-16 rifles, grenade launchers and anti-tank shoulder fire weapons.
Anyhoo, there was no giant wall around the ASP perimeter , but trust me is was VERY secure. ;).
Building a physical wall on the southern border is just a "symbol" many Trump supporters crave.
It's a large waste of time and money for the USA.
The El Chapo drug runners , use tunnels under any physical barrier the US puts up.
I want illegal immigrants busted and our boarders secure.
In my experience, more trained border guards with high tech walls, will work MUCH better!
you're absolutely right.
It is symbolic of their fears and prejudice and probably their many inadequacies
I'm fine with that but let Trump follow through on his claim that Mexico will pay for it (not giving them a bill when it done)
Trump claims to be the world greatest deal make so lets see him follow through for once and show us all "the winning" he promised us.
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I try to treat you like and adult and ask you a serious question and this is what you've got?
thanks for reminding me again you're not really interested in having a discussion much less a debate and also a great example of why this board sucks most of the time
yet you still take the time to reply to someone who has a cartoon frog (hate symbol) as their avatar.
feel free to leave the board - i promise you won't be missed in the least.
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Read today that US officials have not found one dollar of El Chapp's assets.
So I guess they could use his money they have. It's the same as it was before they had him in custody.
A big fat nothing.
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We do need a physical barrier. But instead of a wall - i would suggest just having roaming hyenas and wild dogs and snakes etc. A lot cheaper and more lethal.