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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Bigger Business on April 05, 2006, 08:58:16 AM
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For the first one.......expect a decent crowd a 'controversial' win, yadda yadda
and alllllllllllll down hill from there
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the next 5 shows after New York's NOC will be in Europe, where there is a big BBing following and very little IFBB coverage. Should actually do well, IMO, if marketing and run correctly. There is a demand for the service wayne provides with the PDI
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are they going to drop their prize money as well? (GNC from 100,000 to 10,000)
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This sounds pretty realistic, sadly.
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are they going to drop their prize money as well? (GNC from 100,000 to 10,000)
dude that was just part of the problem
and if you remember they dropped it just a few weeks out AFTER athletes had signed on
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start small and build
dont do it all at once
sorry there will be no shows in suburbs or hicktowns like pittsburgh, denver, chattanoga or fort meyers
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Same thing happened in boxing. Remember the 80's when you had a fight on for free every weekend. Those fighters made a minimum of 100,000 a fight. Even 1 million wasn't unheard of. John Tate and Duane Bobbick each got 1 mil fighting on ABC and you say who? Now, even with ESPN showing live boxing twice a week, the fighters are lucky to make 10K. Even the main enters are getting 100k tops. Only the best of the best will get more than that and now were talking PPV. That just the way the economy dictates. Less sponsorship, less $. The death of Do Koo Kim (who) when he fought Boom Boom Mancini lost sponsors and brought out the moral minority, which put a downcast on the future of boxing, until cable saved it from becoming as obscure as bodybuilding.
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Same thing happened in boxing. Remember the 80's when you had a fight on for free every weekend. Those fighters made a minimum of 100,000 a fight. Even 1 million wasn't unheard of. John Tate and Duane Bobbick each got 1 mil fighting on ABC and you say who? Now, even with ESPN showing live boxing twice a week, the fighters are lucky to make 10K. Even the main enters are getting 100k tops. Only the best of the best will get more than that and now were talking PPV. That just the way the economy dictates. Less sponsorship, less $. The death of Do Koo Kim (who) when he fought Boom Boom Mancini lost sponsors and brought out the moral minority, which put a downcast on the future of boxing, until cable saved it from becoming as obscure as bodybuilding.
That reminded me of a joke:
Q: Who makes the best Korean vegetables?
A: Boom Boom Mancini!
:D
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The demise of boxing has more to do with pay per view in my opinion.
People like to see the stars of the sport on TV, but Don King moved them to Pay-Per-View.
After that move the stars of the time made money, but people lost the connection to the sport.
Pay-per-view has had the same affect on other sports, like bodybuilding.
It is easy money at the start, but by the end only the hardcore people follow the sport.
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the next 5 shows after New York's NOC will be in Europe, where there is a big BBing following and very little IFBB coverage. Should actually do well, IMO, if marketing and run correctly. There is a demand for the service wayne provides with the PDI
Shouldn't that be "proposed" shows in Europe? When I spoke to Wayne on Sunday he told me that he was coming to London to look at some suitable venues. So as far as the UK is concerned the only thing confirmed is the date.
As for the IFBB recieving "very little coverage" you're misinformed. It's WABBA and NABBA who get very little coverage in the magazines here.
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Shouldn't that be "proposed" shows in Europe? When I spoke to Wayne on Sunday he told me that he was coming to London to look at some suitable venues. So as far as the UK is concerned the only thing confirmed is the date.
As for the IFBB recieving "very little coverage" you're misinformed. It's WABBA and NABBA who get very little coverage in the magazines here.
I didn't mean coverage in the magazine sense.
I meant coverage in the venue sense- the IFBB is not covering those geographical locations. They don't have shows there- this is the 2nd straight year with no Euro pro after the 04 tour sucked.
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I didn't mean coverage in the magazine sense.
I meant coverage in the venue sense- the IFBB is not covering those geographical locations. They don't have shows there- this is the 2nd straight year with no Euro pro after the 04 tour sucked.
Where are you getting your information?
There are 3 scheduled IFBB shows in Europe this year. If anyone is interested in finding out more details on those shows, the individual promoters details are publicly available. PDI info can only be obtained through Wayne.
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Where are you getting your information?
There are 3 scheduled IFBB shows in Europe this year. If anyone is interested in finding out more details on those shows, the individual promoters details are publicly available. PDI info can only be obtained through Wayne.
what are the 3 show dates and cities?
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what are the 3 show dates and cities?
4?
SANTA SUSANNA PRO GRAND PRIX
Sep 24 Santa Susanna,SPAIN
$25,000
*Held with the Womens Worlds.
AUSTRIA GRAND PRIX
Oct 6
Graz,AUSTRIA
$20,000
FLEX WHEELER EUROPEAN CLASSIC
Oct 7
Debrecen,HUNGARY
Ken "Flex" Wheeler Hardbody Entertainment LLC & SBI Promotion
$25,000
HOLLAND GRAND PRIX
Oct 8
$20,000
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wow, PLUS Atlantic city, Europe, NY, Colorado, fresno...
pretty good listing.
you can't sneeze this year without getting an Olympia invite!
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Lee Priest will bring a lot of fans to the NOC.
He is one of the most popular pro out there so it is a good thing for the PDI
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you can't sneeze this year without getting an Olympia invite!
You can't buy a ticket for a PDI event!
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You can't buy a ticket for a PDI event!
Well, the show is 6 months away. Shawn Ray started pushing the Colorado Pro posters when Lee haney was still the reigning Mr O...
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You can't buy a ticket for a PDI event!
Sounds like you'll be first in line. 8)
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Where are you getting your information?
There are 3 scheduled IFBB shows in Europe this year. If anyone is interested in finding out more details on those shows, the individual promoters details are publicly available. PDI info can only be obtained through Wayne.
why would we want to know more about a poorly run monopoly
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the reason shawn placed top 5 in 12 olympias was because of vyotech :D
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why would we want to know more about a poorly run monopoly
Yes, the PDI is appearing to be that way.
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Kevin you really are anti-Wayne. Luckily the only way you'll get in a PDI is by paying for a ticket. SO be prepared. Better yet stay home and practice taking pics of flowers or whatever else you do in your free time. Whats going to be really funny is how you won't be coming on here very much after the announcements. At least it's a great way to rid of you. You may want to call Shawn and find out what the doctors name was who took his foot out of his mouth.
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Kevin you really are anti-Wayne. Luckily the only way you'll get in a PDI is by paying for a ticket. SO be prepared. Better yet stay home and practice taking pics of flowers or whatever else you do in your free time. Whats going to be really funny is how you won't be coming on here very much after the announcements. At least it's a great way to rid of you. You may want to call Shawn and find out what the doctors name was who took his foot out of his mouth.
If I was so anti Wayne I wouldn't have spent close to 2 hours on the phone with him on Sunday, laughing and joking about this.
I'd love to be able to buy a ticket, problem is it's impossible unless you are InsiderZ who seems to have a source that not even Wayne knows about. have you bought one, or does your position as Head Janitor at the PDI office entitle you to a free one?
Do you even know when the show in NY is going to be confirmed because the theatre is still saying they don't?
Can I apply for a press pass to your PDI show? Oh no, I forgot, you're not that good at promoting shows.
Don't worry, if I am wrong I'll be here taking the flak. Question is, will you?
Talking of doctors, who was the one who carried out the operation on Wayne to have your tongue removed from his ass?
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If I was so anti Wayne I wouldn't have spent close to 2 hours on the phone with him on Sunday, laughing and joking about this.
I'd love to be able to buy a ticket, problem is it's impossible unless you are InsiderZ who seems to have a source that not even Wayne knows about. have you bought one, or does your position as Head Janitor at the PDI office entitle you to a free one?
Do you even know when the show in NY is going to be confirmed because the theatre is still saying they don't?
Can I apply for a press pass to your PDI show? Oh no, I forgot, you're not that good at promoting shows.
Don't worry, if I am wrong I'll be here taking the flak. Question is, will you?
Talking of doctors, who was the one who carried out the operation on Wayne to have your tongue removed from his ass?
and what press are you with?
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and what press are you with?
NUJ
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start small and build
dont do it all at once
sorry there will be no shows in suburbs or hicktowns like pittsburgh, denver, chattanoga or fort meyers
Denver, Pittsburgh are hick towns. You really are a dumbass. Have you ever been to either of these cities, they are major cities with no hicks in sight. Your screen name fits you well. Takes one to know one. And no, I do not live in either city.
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If I was so anti Wayne I wouldn't have spent close to 2 hours on the phone with him on Sunday, laughing and joking about this.
I'd love to be able to buy a ticket, problem is it's impossible unless you are InsiderZ who seems to have a source that not even Wayne knows about. have you bought one, or does your position as Head Janitor at the PDI office entitle you to a free one?
Do you even know when the show in NY is going to be confirmed because the theatre is still saying they don't?
Can I apply for a press pass to your PDI show? Oh no, I forgot, you're not that good at promoting shows.
Don't worry, if I am wrong I'll be here taking the flak. Question is, will you?
Talking of doctors, who was the one who carried out the operation on Wayne to have your tongue removed from his ass?
If you were on the phone to him for 2 hours, then why didnt you ask him for details about the NOC,tickets,venue etc.Surely a 2 hour conversation would have drawn up such questions.
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If you were on the phone to him for 2 hours, then why didnt you ask him for details about the NOC,tickets,venue etc.Surely a 2 hour conversation would have drawn up such questions.
From what I gather, Wayne was explaining the PDI while Kevin Horton was masturbating to a FLEX magazine. Once Wayne realized what was going on, he hung up and Kevin finished to a dial tone.
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If you were on the phone to him for 2 hours, then why didnt you ask him for details about the NOC,tickets,venue etc.Surely a 2 hour conversation would have drawn up such questions.
I did. All he would say was "All will be revealed, let's just keep those internet guys guessing"
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From what I gather, Wayne was explaining the PDI while Kevin Horton was masturbating to a FLEX magazine. Once Wayne realized what was going on, he hung up and Kevin finished to a dial tone.
;D
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Kevin Horton was masturbating to a FLEX magazine.
Well I certainly wouldn't be doing it to the issue with your photo in it
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Well I certainly wouldn't be doing it to the issue with your photo in it
I know.
I've seen your work.
Focused, well-lit photos make you uncomfortable.
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I know.
I've seen your work.
Focused, well-lit photos make you uncomfortable.
;D
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You can't buy a ticket for a PDI event!
No just you can't
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im always right about these things
and 240 you really have no idea what youre talking about do you?
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No just you can't
Your village is missing you.
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the next 5 shows after New York's NOC will be in Europe, where there is a big BBing following and very little IFBB coverage. Should actually do well, IMO, if marketing and run correctly. There is a demand for the service wayne provides with the PDI
Hey 240, I have an idea. Why don't you cover up that cheesy tribal on your (small) arm with a big giant PDI tatto. Really.....put down the fvcking pom-poms already. There is going to be a new BBing federation..........wow. ........yipee.
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Hey 240, I have an idea. Why don't you cover up that cheesy tribal on your (small) arm with a big giant PDI tatto. Really.....put down the fvcking pom-poms already. There is going to be a new BBing federation..........wow. ........yipee.
Well, despite my best efforts, I've found myself making part of my living from the BBing/fitness industry. www.300website.com
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Onlyme, sounds like you just can't keep my name outta your mouth?
You wanna get back in the Soup line, heard their serving Hot Dogs today or did you eat them ALL Last NIGHT! ;D
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Well, despite my best efforts, I've found myself making part of my living from the BBing/fitness industry. www.300website.com
I have to laugh at these statements on your homepage:
"Promotion of numerous Pro Division Bodybuilding athletes, including Vinny Galanti and Jack London"
Numerous? There are only 2!
" creative mass market psychological advertising techniques"
Posting on Getbig?
You should also do one of your $3.00 updates to the PDI Fanboy site you run as it's incorrectly claiming that there is an agreement with McLean Hospital. A simple call to them would have established that.
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Numerous? There are only 2!
Two so far, sunshine ;)
And the photog business must be pretty good that you have time to dissect my homepage.
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Two so far, sunshine ;)
And the photog business must be pretty good that you have time to dissect my homepage.
Well at least the judging rounds won't take too long.
Business is very good thanks.
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Onlyme, sounds like you just can't keep my name outta your mouth?
You wanna get back in the Soup line, heard their serving Hot Dogs today or did you eat them ALL Last NIGHT! ;D
No soup for me. Hot dogs yes but with chilli. But do yo plan going out to eat around visiting hours. And when you get pissed on (great phone call by the way during the Arnold), are you eating anything. And I can keep your name out of everything it's really easy, but why? You are an easy target. I have my weight as my problem. You forget (well not really) all the shit that's wrong with you. Dude like I said I wouldn't change lives with you ever. I just can't imagine the shit you went through growing up. Thank god (well the drugs) for everything you got including the body and the cars. God it must suck to be you
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Business is very good thanks.
Uh oh...my spider sense is telling me that Mr. Horton is on the verge of posting his income and challenging 240 to a 1099-off!!
Brace yourselves!
Special "W2D2" Ed
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From what I gather, Wayne was explaining the PDI while Kevin Horton was masturbating to a FLEX magazine.
Come on Rob, How can you fault Kevin on that. Have you see the cover FLEX is sporting this month?
Timea and Val...
:o
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Uh oh...my spider sense is telling me that Mr. Horton is on the verge of posting his income and challenging 240 to a 1099-off!!
Are you crazy? Only Bill Gates or the Sultan of Brunei would dare challenge 240 over their worth.
Just look at his site and you can see that he's "designed" 36 sites at $300 each. Hell that's $10,800!!!!!!! Plus he even gets $3,00 an update. I can't compete with that.
P.S. What's a 1099?
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Come on Rob, How can you fault Kevin on that. Have you see the cover FLEX is sporting this month?
Timea and Val...
:o
He has no interest in that cover, though that would change if it featured his boss Wayne wearing the bikini.
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Those girls are hot. But who reads FLEX anyway? What, Johnny Jackson wasn't selling enough covers so we'll try some T&A?
And we all know that the IRS trolls are lurking with the DEA choads, just waiting for us to brag about income we didn't declare.
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And we all know that the IRS trolls are lurking with the DEA choads, just waiting for us to brag about income we didn't declare.
Smart announcement kid. If they do investigate you now, are you likely to get any financial help from your government as you are earning below the minimum wage?
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Put me down for one copy of the May 2006 issue! :o :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=63057.0;attach=72666;image)
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Wait a cotton pickin' minute. I remember hearing that the GNC show tanked because Wayne basically yanked the promoter's chain. Something like he ran up the sanctioning fee and left him out to dry. I remember that the promoter lowered the prize money because Wayne stuck him for such a high fee at the last minute. Something to that effect anyway.
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Smart announcement kid. If they do investigate you now, are you likely to get any financial help from your government as you are earning below the minimum wage?
I earn $2.12 an hour, busing tables down at Firehouse.
The money is great, but it's a little weird hanging out with insecure drug addicts all long.
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Wait a cotton pickin' minute. I remember hearing that the GNC show tanked because Wayne basically yanked the promoter's chain. Something like he ran up the sanctioning fee and left him out to dry. I remember that the promoter lowered the prize money because Wayne stuck him for such a high fee at the last minute. Something to that effect anyway.
Wayne probably did if that is a fact. He did it cause the Weiners told him too. Just like they told him to tell Shawn he was disqualified. Wayne ran the show cause the Weiners had no idea how too (they have proven that immediately) but the Weiners ran the business. Wayne still had to take orders from Benny and Joe no matter how bad it made him look. Do yo honestly think Wayne had the power to do that without the Weiners say so. Please, you do know who the Weiners are don't you.
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Wayne probably did if that is a fact. He did it cause the Weiners told him too. Just like they told him to tell Shawn he was disqualified. Wayne ran the show cause the Weiners had no idea how too (they have proven that immediately) but the Weiners ran the business. Wayne still had to take orders from Benny and Joe no matter how bad it made him look. Do yo honestly think Wayne had the power to do that without the Weiners say so. Please, you do know who the Weiners are don't you.
So Wayne had such high principles that he was prepared to screw someone because he was told to?
Why didn't he walk away?
Had he not been shown the door he would have continued to screw people?
Nice hero you have there Spiderman.
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So Wayne had such high principles that he was prepared to screw someone because he was told to?
Why didn't he walk away?
Had he not been shown the door he would have continued to screw people?
Nice hero you have there Spiderman.
Hero, Wayne is not my hero. Maybe yours cause you are begging for press passes. I am supporting Wayne cause he is someone who has shown he wants to make BB better. And when the door opened he did walk. You can only take it for so long. He thought he could change things and the Weiners wouldn't allow it. I am surprised Kevin, have you ever dealt personally with the Weiners (Joe or Benny). DO you have any whatsoever done any business with them. I have. So I am allowed to have an opinion on them on what personally happened to me and about 1000 other kids. I know how they operate. I know people who have known them and have done business with them for many many years. They have been the only player in town and because of that you have to do things you normally wouldn't do but have to if you want to further your business or personal gain. When you are the only game in town you are allowed to do anything you want and still get everything you want. well now there is Wayne with an organization that hasn't put on a show yet, but is receiving more publicity than any IFBB show this including the Olympia and it doesn't look like it is going to sop anytime soon.
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go to the night of champions this year. because it will be the first and only night of champions of the pdi. lets face it - the ifbb may not be the best and remember how many people didn't like wayne when he ran the ifbb. so many complaints it made manion look like an angel. now wayne wants to come back. he is the one that quit the ifbb. he is the one that was too greedy. he could of been the king of the ifbb when the weiders will step down soon. but he made a chess move and it backfired on him. now he wants to make the pdi what everyone was complaining about wayne in the ifbb. come on, cant you see the light from behind the dark hood.
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Hero, Wayne is not my hero. Maybe yours cause you are begging for press passes. I am supporting Wayne cause he is someone who has shown he wants to make BB better. And when the door opened he did walk. You can only take it for so long.
Maybe hero was the wronf word, how about idol?
I haven't even asked for a press pass to Wayne's show, let alone begged. I'll buy one if they ever go on sale.
When the door opened he didn't have a choice. Glad to hear he may have changed his attitude because according to your previous statements here, he'd been screwing the athletes for close to 20 years!
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Maybe hero was the wronf word, how about idol?
I haven't even asked for a press pass to Wayne's show, let alone begged. I'll buy one if they ever go on sale.
When the door opened he didn't have a choice. Glad to hear he may have changed his attitude because according to your previous statements here, he'd been screwing the athletes for close to 20 years!
So what exactly did you and Wayne talk about then during that "2 hour" phone call.You dont know anything about the NOC because he was keeping it to himself, and you didnt even ask for a press pass.So what did you talk about?
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Great cover. Gotta love FLEX.
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what specifically happen at the arnold regarding piss and shawn
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Onlyme, sounds like you just can't keep my name outta your mouth?
You wanna get back in the Soup line, heard their serving Hot Dogs today or did you eat them ALL Last NIGHT! ;D
HAhahahaha...Onlyme is obese ;D