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Title: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: NickEdge779 on May 25, 2017, 08:39:07 PM
3rd straight year.. I got Golden State in 6
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Pray_4_War on May 25, 2017, 09:51:27 PM
Could have told you that in October.  This same bunch of phaggots will probably be in the Finals next year too.

The NBA is not competitive anymore.  It's a glorified three point shooting contest and all the star players want to play with each other instead of competing against each other.

Warriors should win barring any major injuries.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Oblique on May 25, 2017, 10:02:31 PM
I am so sick of LeBron James.

While I have no use for Golden State, and I laugh at that sellout douche Kevin Durant, I hope the Warriors win.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 26, 2017, 06:35:46 AM
You need to update the thread Title to Cavs vs. Warriors vs. Refs.  You know the NBA is going to rig this to go 7.  They don't want a GS sweep of the Cavs because the NBA is already looking stupid with Durant being there.  You'll see shitty things like Curry getting phantom calls to keep him out of the game early.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Nails on May 26, 2017, 06:38:35 AM
Cavs
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 26, 2017, 07:50:20 AM
I am so sick of LeBron James.

While I have no use for Golden State, and I laugh at that sellout douche Kevin Durant, I hope the Warriors win.

When they try to compare him to Jordan it makes me laugh.  The East is so weak it's easy for his team to make it to the finals.  Jordan's Bulls had to beat a celtics team, a crazy good Detroit team, a really good Knicks team.  The East was no joke back then like it is now, then get to the finals and face more Hall of Famers in Malone and Stockton, Payton,Magic, Dexler, kemp etc...
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Grape Ape on May 26, 2017, 07:59:25 AM
When they try to compare him to Jordan it makes me laugh.  The East is so weak it's easy for his team to make it to the finals.  Jordan's Bulls had to beat a celtics team, a crazy good Detroit team, a really good Knicks team.  The East was no joke back then like it is now, then get to the finals and face more Hall of Famers in Malone and Stockton, Payton,Magic, Dexler, kemp etc...

Can't blame Lebron for that though, he can't control it.

7 straight finals is impressive by any means.

But basketball is stupid because it takes two players to carry a team.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: DeketheCreep on May 26, 2017, 09:21:01 AM
Cavs in 6
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Man of Steel on May 26, 2017, 09:45:08 AM
Could have told you that in October.  This same bunch of phaggots will probably be in the Finals next year too.

The NBA is not competitive anymore.  It's a glorified three point shooting contest and all the star players want to play with each other instead of competing against each other.

Warriors should win barring any major injuries.


When was it competitive?

Was it competitive during the era of the Celtics, Lakers, Bulls, Pistons, Knicks, 76rs or Spurs?

Dominance of a few teams has been ongoing since the beginning of the professional league in the US (going back approximately 60 years).
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Man of Steel on May 26, 2017, 09:51:40 AM
When they try to compare him to Jordan it makes me laugh.  The East is so weak it's easy for his team to make it to the finals.  Jordan's Bulls had to beat a celtics team, a crazy good Detroit team, a really good Knicks team.  The East was no joke back then like it is now, then get to the finals and face more Hall of Famers in Malone and Stockton, Payton,Magic, Dexler, kemp etc...

Plus Jordan played through an era in which penalties were simply judged differently...it was more brutal play then.    That and the level of overall talent was more mature/polished and widespread within the conferences.  The East wasn't such a calkwalk like today.  Lebron couldn't of just "turned it on" for the post season.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Howard on May 26, 2017, 10:11:53 AM
I am so sick of LeBron James.

While I have no use for Golden State, and I laugh at that sellout douche Kevin Durant, I hope the Warriors win.

What ? Should the league require LeBron to play on roller skates now? ::)
They all play by the same rules and these 2 teams kick ass when it counts most.

Don't be too hard on KD, he wants a ring , so Shag won't roast him after he retires.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/shaq-charles-barkley-trade-insults-cavs-celtics-game-4-article-1.3191991
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Man of Steel on May 26, 2017, 10:22:44 AM
What ? Should the league require LeBron to play on roller skates now? ::)
They all play by the same rules and these 2 teams kick ass when it counts most.

Don't be too hard on KD, he wants a ring , so Shag won't roast him after he retires.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/shaq-charles-barkley-trade-insults-cavs-celtics-game-4-article-1.3191991

A healthy KD on the Dubs is a whole different situation than a KD-less Dubs squad.   It's not that GS can't get the job done without him (they did for a time), but their play is elevated even further when he's there.  Consider KD's return mid-season and the subsequent back to back thrashing of both Rockets and Spurs....that and they've swept the post season easily (although a healthy Spurs squad would've generated an altogether different series tone and possibly a different outcome in the WC finals....no bias though  ;)).
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Pray_4_War on May 26, 2017, 10:27:05 AM
When was it competitive?

Was it competitive during the era of the Celtics, Lakers, Bulls, Pistons, Knicks, 76rs or Spurs?

Dominance of a few teams has been ongoing since the beginning of the professional league in the US (going back approximately 60 years).

It absolutely was competitive in the 80s and 90s and if you don't believe me ask MJ about getting the shit kicked out of him by the Detroit Pistions, a team that won 2 championships in it's own right.  Or ask him how he liked competing in the East against a Boston team that won 3 rings.

Every year Lebron and his cherry picked team full of 3 or more all stars go up against young teams with no accomplishments to speak of, no championship pedigree and half the time their teams are full of debilitating injuries.  The Pacers, the Celtics who haven't won anything since 2008, the Raptors....please dude.  The East has been weak to the point of absurdity for like 8 years.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Man of Steel on May 26, 2017, 10:28:59 AM
It absolutely was competitive in the 80s and 90s and if you don't believe me ask MJ about getting the shit kicked out of him by the Detroit Pistions, a team that won 2 championships in it's own right.  Or ask him how he liked competing in the East against a Boston team that won 3 rings.

Every year Lebron and his cherry picked team full of 3 or more all stars go up against young teams with no accomplishments to speak of, no championship pedigree and half the time their teams are full of debilitating injuries.  The Pacers, the Celtics who haven't won anything since 2008, the Raptors....please dude.  The East has been weak to the point of absurdity for like 8 years.


Plus Jordan played through an era in which penalties were simply judged differently...it was more brutal play then.    That and the level of overall talent was more mature/polished and widespread within the conferences.  The East wasn't such a calkwalk like today.  Lebron couldn't of just "turned it on" for the post season.

Again, the dominance of a few teams has been ongoing since the beginning of the professional league in the US (going back approximately 60 years).   Out of decades of play and 30ish total NBA teams only a handful of teams have decades worth of championships.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Pray_4_War on May 26, 2017, 10:40:48 AM

Again, the dominance of a few teams has been ongoing since the beginning of the professional league in the US (going back approximately 60 years).

I just quoted you 3 teams from the East (Celtics, Pistons, Bulls) that were competing against each other for many years and all 3 won multiple championships. 

How is that the same as Lebron cake walking to the NBA finals every year virtually unopposed.

You are also forgetting that in those days the teams drafted their superstars.  Not like today where Lebron cherry picks his team and then splits town for greener pastures as soon as things don't look as prosperous.

Or Kevin Durant who can't beat the Warriors so he joins them.  Laughable.  Chasing cheap rings.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 26, 2017, 10:47:44 AM
I just quoted you 3 teams from the East (Celtics, Pistons, Bulls) that were competing against each other for many years and all 3 won multiple championships. 

How is that the same as Lebron cake walking to the NBA finals every year virtually unopposed.

You are also forgetting that in those days the teams drafted their superstars.  Not like today where Lebron cherry picks his team and then splits town for greener pastures as soon as things don't look as prosperous.

Or Kevin Durant who can't beat the Warriors so he joins them.  Laughable.  Chasing cheap rings.

The Warriors get a bad rap like they built a team like the Cavs but it's untrue.  The Warriors got Klay and Curry in the first round while other teams passed them up, then got Draymond in the second when everyone passed on him.  KD is their only big FA splash.  They really didn't need him  Don't forget last year Curry was hurt in the playoffs.  Fucked up his ankle in the series against houston when he slipped and fell on a wet court.  I think with Harrison Barnes they are better than with KD, they just needed a better center to get the rebounds as that's why they lost to the Cavs last year.  Curry wasn't himself and they let Thompson of the Cavs dominate the rebound game. 

Lebron handpicked Love and then went back to the Cavs when Kyrie was there.  they then signed everyone else on that squad.  I think Thompson might be their only other draft pick.

The Spurs though are making some noise about getting Chris Paul.  The west is going to stay stacked and apparently Carmelo to the Clippers and Paul George to the Lakers.  The East is just going to continue being a cake walk for years.  Apparently James wants Carmelo in Cleveland to help his own legacy.  lol
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Pray_4_War on May 26, 2017, 11:00:19 AM
The Warriors get a bad rap like they built a team like the Cavs but it's untrue.  The Warriors got Klay and Curry in the first round while other teams passed them up, then got Draymond in the second when everyone passed on him.  KD is their only big FA splash.  They really didn't need him  Don't forget last year Curry was hurt in the playoffs.  Fucked up his ankle in the series against houston when he slipped and fell on a wet court.  I think with Harrison Barnes they are better than with KD, they just needed a better center to get the rebounds as that's why they lost to the Cavs last year.  Curry wasn't himself and they let Thompson of the Cavs dominate the rebound game. 

Lebron handpicked Love and then went back to the Cavs when Kyrie was there.  they then signed everyone else on that squad.  I think Thompson might be their only other draft pick.

The Spurs though are making some noise about getting Chris Paul.  The west is going to stay stacked and apparently Carmelo to the Clippers and Paul George to the Lakers.  The East is just going to continue being a cake walk for years.  Apparently James wants Carmelo in Cleveland to help his own legacy.  lol

The Warriors "only big FA splash" just happens to be a former league MVP and multiple time league scoring champion.  Convenient.

I'm not trashing the Warriors because Lebron is really at the root of all this collusion and cherry picking.  Since he's doing it, other stars can't really compete unless they do it too.

The Warriors have an amazing front office.  The Cavs are a Mickey Mouse organization that is lucky that Lebron is from Akron.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 26, 2017, 11:12:35 AM
The Warriors "only big FA splash" just happens to be a former league MVP and multiple time league scoring champion.  Convenient.

I'm not trashing the Warriors because Lebron is really at the root of all this collusion and cherry picking.  Since he's doing it, other stars can't really compete unless they do it too.

The Warriors have an amazing front office.  The Cavs are a Mickey Mouse organization that is lucky that Lebron is from Akron.

KD has other reasons as well.  For some reason I always got the gay vibe from him.  The way he dressed, listening to his stories about always feeling awkward and out of place.  Then he claims he has never been happier in San Fran.  He never wants to leave and loves the city.  seems he found his happy place.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Pray_4_War on May 26, 2017, 11:18:14 AM
KD has other reasons as well.  For some reason I always got the gay vibe from him.  The way he dressed, listening to his stories about always feeling awkward and out of place.  Then he claims he has never been happier in San Fran.  He never wants to leave and loves the city.  seems he found his happy place.

KD does love cock.

I can say with certainty that the NBA has never had so many unlikable superstars.  These guys are just absolute spoiled rotten assholes always whining, bragging, flopping, talking shit to people and playing the victim.

Russell Westbrook is a giant fucking Douche bag.  Lebron thinks he's God.  The Warrior's egos are so big they hardly fit in Oracle Arena.  KD is always shitting on the press.  Fuck all these guys.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: The_Punisher on May 26, 2017, 11:42:11 AM
aren't the Spurs and Miami Heat in the Finals?
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: mazrim on June 02, 2017, 07:58:06 AM
1-0 Warriors. Didnt even seem like they played that well either. Mainly the first half. Good sign. Seems like they were having slow starts in the last two finals and had to work their way back during games.

Curry looked good. Durant looked awesome. No jitters.

Hopefully, kyrie doesn't explode like he did last year.

Notice the first finals they won in in the center position, David lee was a good contributor/energetic. Second finals they lost, bogut and that ezili guy slow and detrimental and Thompson dominated the boards. First game this series, Zaza and McGee did very well.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 02, 2017, 09:55:48 AM
The NBA will probably find a way to suspend Draymond Green again so they can help Lebron win some more cheap rings.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Earl1972 on June 02, 2017, 10:38:09 PM
The NBA will probably find a way to suspend Draymond Green again so they can help Lebron win some more cheap rings.

his one ring last year is more impressive than any of jordan's

and maybe draymond should stop hitting people in the balls if he doesn't want to be suspended

the King has nothing to lose this year, no team in nba history would be favored against these warriors, if he finds a way to beat them it will just be more proof he is the best of all time

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Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 03, 2017, 02:44:18 AM
his one ring last year is more impressive than any of jordan's

In your mind it is.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 03, 2017, 09:38:56 AM
his one ring last year is more impressive than any of jordan's

and maybe draymond should stop hitting people in the balls if he doesn't want to be suspended

the King has nothing to lose this year, no team in nba history would be favored against these warriors, if he finds a way to beat them it will just be more proof he is the best of all time

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The Cavs coaching was shit game 1.  When Curry and Durant were on the bench getting rest he kept James out there.  Not smart at all.  Once they came back on the court the Warriors went on a good run and James was totally gassed.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 03, 2017, 07:26:23 PM
The Cavs coaching was shit game 1.  When Curry and Durant were on the bench getting rest he kept James out there.  Not smart at all.  Once they came back on the court the Warriors went on a good run and James was totally gassed.

Because they fired a real coach last year and brought in a Lebron puppet.  A "players coach".

Fortunately, last year their overwhelming talent and a Warriors choke got them a Championship.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Earl1972 on June 04, 2017, 12:23:15 AM
Because they fired a real coach last year and brought in a Lebron puppet.  A "players coach".

Fortunately, last year their overwhelming talent and a Warriors choke got them a Championship.

the King just can't do anything right in your mind, it just kills you to know he is better than your childhood heroes

why not appreciate greatness while you are a witness, instead of pretending 20 - 30 years ago were better?

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Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: ChristopherA on June 04, 2017, 06:47:37 AM
the King just can't do anything right in your mind, it just kills you to know he is better than your childhood heroes

why not appreciate greatness while you are a witness, instead of pretending 20 - 30 years ago were better?

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Jordan would rape the fuck out of LeBron and the game is pitiful now compared to when MJ, Barkley, Bird, etc played. There's no argument, none
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Marty Champions on June 04, 2017, 06:49:25 AM
yeah i thought the game was more competitive with christian laettner
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 04, 2017, 10:50:38 AM
The Lebron apologists are all over ESPN making up the shittiest excuses saying if the Cavs lose that it doesn't knock Lebron since the warriors are too good but if the Cavs win that it moves him up the ladder as the GOAT.  How does he get the best of both worlds here?  Lose it's ok and win and you're the GOAT? Why doesn't it knock him down the ladder if he loses?  To be the best you have to beat the best, correct?  Can't lose to the best and still try to claim you're the best.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: oldschoolfan on June 04, 2017, 12:11:36 PM
jordan was 6-0 in the finals and had he not retired twice maybe could have won at least 9

this is coming from a guy who hated jordan and was a huge pistons fan
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Earl1972 on June 04, 2017, 07:43:15 PM
Jordan would rape the fuck out of LeBron and the game is pitiful now compared to when MJ, Barkley, Bird, etc played. There's no argument, none

LOL so many guys back then wouldn't even play in the league today

stop living in the past, this isn't bodybuilding

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Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Earl1972 on June 04, 2017, 07:44:53 PM
jordan was 6-0 in the finals and had he not retired twice maybe could have won at least 9

this is coming from a guy who hated jordan and was a huge pistons fan

the King would be 6 - 0 too if he played those teams instead of the warriors and spurs

jordan had the best timing, started winning win the great teams got old and the new blood just joined the league

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Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: jude2 on June 04, 2017, 07:46:55 PM
The Greatness got his ass kicked again. :'(
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Earl1972 on June 04, 2017, 07:49:01 PM
The Greatness got his ass kicked again. :'(

who wouldn't by this team?

the warriors are the best team ever, not exactly the 96 sonics

cue jordan nuthuggers that will pretend vin baker would be a top 5 player today ::)

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Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: mazrim on June 04, 2017, 07:50:05 PM
the King would be 6 - 0 too if he played those teams instead of the warriors and spurs

jordan had the best timing, started winning win the great teams got old and the new blood just joined the league

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Lebron made his own timing. Hey, let's go play with two other top 10 players!

Lebron is great but Jordan was better and I hated Jordan.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 04, 2017, 07:57:58 PM
who wouldn't by this team?


That's exactly what a lot of people were saying between 2010 to 2014 after Lebron created his cherry picked Miami Heat super team.

Somehow Lebron managed to lose 2 out of those 4 Championships too.

Also, LEBRON JAMES IS NOT A KING!   HE IS A FUCKING BASKETBALL PLAYER.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: mazrim on June 04, 2017, 08:04:25 PM
That's exactly what a lot of people were saying between 2010 to 2014 after Lebron created his cherry picked Miami Heat super team.

Somehow Lebron managed to lose 2 out of those 4 Championships too.

Also, LEBRON JAMES IS NOT A KING!   HE IS A FUCKING BASKETBALL PLAYER.
Yep, they were supposed to mow through everyone but Lebron's style of play is not conducive to playing with other great players, IMO. He needs the ball too much. Can't really play off the basketball/has never tried hard at it.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Dave D on June 04, 2017, 08:27:39 PM
who wouldn't by this team?

the warriors are the best team ever, not exactly the 96 sonics

cue jordan nuthuggers that will pretend vin baker would be a top 5 player today ::)

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The
Vin baker wasn't on that Sonics squad. It was Kemp, GP, Hersey Hawkins etc....
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 04, 2017, 08:33:11 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C00xcxYVQAEZ0nP.jpg)
(http://www.bdcwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Screen-Shot-2015-02-10-at-9.06.44-PM.png)
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Earl1972 on June 06, 2017, 06:21:05 PM
(https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=OIP.dpnbovCgBH5HGKezOygzowEsDI&pid=15.1&rs=1&c=1&qlt=95&w=158&h=105)

(https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=OIP.oq0E1oIQryBZ8J9PyCecuADjEs&pid=15.1&rs=1&c=1&qlt=95&w=83&h=110)

oh and even vegas thinks this warriors team is the best ever, they would be favored over jordan's bulls so the KING has nothing to lose by losing this final, he's still the best ever 8)

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Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 07, 2017, 01:03:43 AM
One of Lebron's teammates fucked his mom.

(http://theclassical.org/sites/default/files/delonte315.jpg)

At least one.  Bwahahahahaha!
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 08, 2017, 12:57:21 AM
Warriors up 3-0.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/W3elPX6v2bqMg/giphy.gif)

Kevin Durant joined a super team and basically out-Lebroned Lebron.  You wanna play with 2 other allstars?  Fine, I'll play with 3.  lol.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 08, 2017, 07:06:13 AM
So Lebron wants to be claimed as the GOAT right?  Up by 2, ball in his hands, only a single defender against him and an open lane to drive and seal the deal.  What would the GOAT do?  Dribble into traffic instead and dish it off to some mid season pickup for a miss.  What a fucking joke.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: polychronopolous on June 08, 2017, 07:12:27 AM
jordan was 6-0 in the finals and had he not retired twice maybe could have won at least 9

this is coming from a guy who hated jordan and was a huge pistons penises fan

Fixed
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 08, 2017, 07:45:23 AM
So Lebron wants to be claimed as the GOAT right?  Up by 2, ball in his hands, only a single defender against him and an open lane to drive and seal the deal.  What would the GOAT do?  Dribble into traffic instead and dish it off to some mid season pickup for a miss.  What a fucking joke.

..and let KD walk into a dagger 3 pointer at the end of the game that gave Golden State the lead......and then turned the ball over.  LeChoke.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 08, 2017, 08:16:32 AM
..and let KD walk into a dagger 3 pointer at the end of the game that gave Golden State the lead......and then turned the ball over.  LeChoke.

Yeah, horrible defense and sweet that KD hits that shot over Lebron.  haha.  Cleveland gave it their best but still not good enough.

Lebron will cry to management and they'll try to sign 1 or 2 big stars, then maybe they'll win a championship again but lebron will get all the credit and not the signing of another big star.

I still think Chris Paul might go there for a year or 2.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: CT_Muscle on June 08, 2017, 08:44:18 AM
The Lebron apologists are all over ESPN making up the shittiest excuses saying if the Cavs lose that it doesn't knock Lebron since the warriors are too good but if the Cavs win that it moves him up the ladder as the GOAT.  How does he get the best of both worlds here?  Lose it's ok and win and you're the GOAT? Why doesn't it knock him down the ladder if he loses?  To be the best you have to beat the best, correct?  Can't lose to the best and still try to claim you're the best.

WHO watches that SHIT channel anymore anyways....oh wait.... :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: R.A.M. on June 08, 2017, 09:08:19 AM
Yeah, horrible defense and sweet that KD hits that shot over Lebron.  haha.  Cleveland gave it their best but still not good enough.

Lebron will cry to management and they'll try to sign 1 or 2 big stars, then maybe they'll win a championship again but lebron will get all the credit and not the signing of another big star.

I still think Chris Paul might go there for a year or 2.

Why would Chris Paul go there.. they got Kyrie.  Cavs lost cause Lebron can't get off the court. Try playing at that level for 4 quarters. Curry and Durant can afford to sit out from time to time, and not get out scored.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 08, 2017, 10:09:17 AM
Why would Chris Paul go there.. they got Kyrie.  Cavs lost cause Lebron can't get off the court. Try playing at that level for 4 quarters. Curry and Durant can afford to sit out from time to time, and not get out scored.

Shouldn't the Cavs coach manage minutes better?  Oh you mean Lue is not the coach and Lebron is?
Paul would only go since it's a dream of his and Lebron's to play together.  Kyrie is a great player but not a play maker.  Lebron wants a true PG who can pass and make shit happen, get others involved.  Kyrie can't do that.  The scrubs they signed in Deron Williams, Korver and bringing back JR Smith is a joke.  All losers.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: calfzilla on June 08, 2017, 10:12:35 AM
Cavs need that dirt white boy player, what's his name from aus, dellavadova. Dude would have dived onto currys knees by halftime of game 1
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 08, 2017, 10:18:49 AM
Cavs need that dirt white boy player, what's his name from aus, dellavadova. Dude would have dived onto currys knees by halftime of game 1

He would have "tripped" into to back of Durant's leg, then slipped under a Curry jumpshot twisting his ankle then accidentally elbow Klay in the jaw all in the first quarter of game 1.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: hp31 on June 08, 2017, 12:14:12 PM
Love this

Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: mazrim on June 08, 2017, 01:13:49 PM
Why would Chris Paul go there.. they got Kyrie.  Cavs lost cause Lebron can't get off the court. Try playing at that level for 4 quarters. Curry and Durant can afford to sit out from time to time, and not get out scored.
No excuses. He had a month or so long break playing in the east playoffs then an eternity off before the finals.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 08, 2017, 07:52:50 PM
Love this



Dagger!

I think it's safe to say that Lebron was out of position here and pretty much shit the bed.  You can let Durant blow by you for a dunk in that position, what you can't do is let him walk into an uncontested 3 pointer.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Earl1972 on June 09, 2017, 11:36:24 AM
the KING is dominating the best team ever, but the team just isn't enough

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Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 09, 2017, 02:15:32 PM
the KING is dominating the best team ever, but the team just isn't enough

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Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: polychronopolous on June 09, 2017, 02:43:12 PM
I literally put down the remote and gave up on basketball after Dirk got his ring.

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Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 09, 2017, 08:00:03 PM
The refs are fucking over the Warriors.  They're not even trying to hide the fact they want Cleveland to win.  I guess ABC told the NBA that they want more games since they've paid so much to broadcast the finals.  Fucking crooked league.  Some of the fouls against GS are so laughable.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 10, 2017, 06:14:34 AM
The refs are fucking over the Warriors.  They're not even trying to hide the fact they want Cleveland to win.  I guess ABC told the NBA that they want more games since they've paid so much to broadcast the finals.  Fucking crooked league.  Some of the fouls against GS are so laughable.

I didn't watch the game but I heard the same thing from multiple sources.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Ronnie Rep on June 10, 2017, 07:01:35 AM
The refs are fucking over the Warriors.  They're not even trying to hide the fact they want Cleveland to win.  I guess ABC told the NBA that they want more games since they've paid so much to broadcast the finals.  Fucking crooked league.  Some of the fouls against GS are so laughable.
Stop, it's the finals. It evens out in the end.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 10, 2017, 07:03:45 AM
Turned the game off when it became too evident the refs were fixing the game.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: mazrim on June 10, 2017, 07:20:45 AM
Turned the game off when it became too evident the refs were fixing the game.
What'd they have, like 15 to 20 free throws in the first quarter alone? It was pretty bad. Cavs don't need that sort of help when kyrie is playing like that.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 10, 2017, 09:00:58 AM
What'd they have, like 15 to 20 free throws in the first quarter alone? It was pretty bad. Cavs don't need that sort of help when kyrie is playing like that.

The worst part was Curry was ahead of Shumpert, shumpert reaches in and grabs Curry's arm and the refs call the foul on Curry.  The Curry drives in and gets slammed to floor and they don't call a foul.  Pachulia gets kicked and tackled and no foul.  What a fucking joke.  Despite the Cavs hitting shots the Warriors were never out of it but once they started to get into high gear the refs would slow the play down calling bullshit fouls over and over.  I get it.  ABC wants more games but this is a joke.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 10, 2017, 09:14:13 AM
Just delaying the inevitable.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: calfzilla on June 10, 2017, 01:28:07 PM
Just delaying the inevitable.

X2. Should have gone the San Antonio route and be put out of their misery in 4 games.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Shizzo on June 10, 2017, 10:21:46 PM
Just delaying the inevitable.
You would think so, but the Warriors better win game 5 at home. I don't even want the Cavs to have a glimmer of hope.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 11, 2017, 05:01:13 AM
You would think so, but the Warriors better win game 5 at home. I don't even want the Cavs to have a glimmer of hope.

If the refs pull the same screw job on the Warriors then maybe.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Ronnie Rep on June 11, 2017, 07:32:22 AM
You would think so, but the Warriors better win game 5 at home. I don't even want the Cavs to have a glimmer of hope.
I smell a game 6 at least. TV ratings will be through the roof.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: manuelsonn on June 11, 2017, 02:12:45 PM
Currie or jahemes have nothing on dusan bulut!
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Hulkotron on June 11, 2017, 02:30:22 PM
The refs are fucking over the Warriors.  They're not even trying to hide the fact they want Cleveland to win.  I guess ABC told the NBA that they want more games since they've paid so much to broadcast the finals.  Fucking crooked league.  Some of the fouls against GS are so laughable.

I didn't see all that many phantom-foul calls on GS but they were letting Cleveland get away with murder on defense, bumping and pushing and bodying the Warriors all over the court and no calls.

LeBron also gets away with more offensive fouls than any player I've ever seen.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: mazrim on June 11, 2017, 04:49:43 PM
I didn't see all that many phantom-foul calls on GS but they were letting Cleveland get away with murder on defense, bumping and pushing and bodying the Warriors all over the court and no calls.

LeBron also gets away with more offensive fouls than any player I've ever seen.
There were a couple extremely obvious ones, but mainly it was what you are saying. Nothing was called for the other side when the exact same thing was being done. If Cleveland wasn't making a shot they were getting a call it seemed like and not the same for GS. No consistency. Either play on for both teams or call it for both teams.

When Kyrie did the obvious back court violation (they ended up turning it over anyway) and it wasn't called, you could tell the refs focus was solely on the Warriors.

Lebron reminds me of shaq in that regard (offensive fouls). Commentators make excuses and say they aren't and that it is just him being a "strong man". I totally disagree, an elbow to the face or direct shoulder to the other defender bowling him over when that player is in normal position is an offensive foul/non call. They usually call it on the defender in his case. I remember Rik Smits getting smashed by Shaq constantly with elbows to the face, etc. and he would be the one called for the foul.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Hulkotron on June 12, 2017, 05:29:29 AM
Lebron reminds me of shaq in that regard (offensive fouls). Commentators make excuses and say they aren't and that it is just him being a "strong man". I totally disagree, an elbow to the face or direct shoulder to the other defender bowling him over when that player is in normal position is an offensive foul/non call. They usually call it on the defender in his case. I remember Rik Smits getting smashed by Shaq constantly with elbows to the face, etc. and he would be the one called for the foul.

The thing he does that I notice the most is when he drives, he uses his off-hand (no homo) to basically stiff-arm the defender out of the way.  Admittedly a lot of NBA players do this but LeBron's is especially forceful and he never gets called for it.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 12, 2017, 10:48:49 AM
The thing he does that I notice the most is when he drives, he uses his off-hand (no homo) to basically stiff-arm the defender out of the way.  Admittedly a lot of NBA players do this but LeBron's is especially forceful and he never gets called for it.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who notices this.  He does it every time he goes to the basket.  It's pretty hard to defend a 260 pound freight train that's allowed to push you away from him.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Desolate on June 12, 2017, 08:46:22 PM
I loathe both teams, so I don't care. ::)

But this is so fake and fixed. Cleveland played hard for three quarters and suddenly stopped playing defense. ???

Guys getting open with no one within ten feet of them.

A total joke and fake as shit.

This was the year for sellout Durant to take his lap.

This league (and sport) is a total joke.

But I'm happy to see Hillary supporter King James take it in the ass. :-*
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: jude2 on June 12, 2017, 08:48:11 PM
Curry and Durant are a serious combo.  THey play like teamates, not ball hogs.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Desolate on June 12, 2017, 08:50:50 PM
Curry can't stand Durant.

Curry wants to be top dog.

Durant steals his thunder.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: jude2 on June 12, 2017, 08:53:47 PM
Curry can't stand Durant.

Curry wants to be top dog.

Durant steals his thunder.
[/quote I disagree.  He is not Westbrook. He wants to win titles, and together they are hard to beat.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Shizzo on June 12, 2017, 09:05:30 PM
I really like this Warriors team. My favorite team is the Pacers, but I absolutely love watching the Warriors play.  It sounds cliche, but I actually think they enjoy being together as a team.

You can't say the same about the Cleveland Lebrons.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 12, 2017, 09:13:28 PM
How sweet, Durant is out there on the court celebrating with his mommy as soon as the buzzer sounds.  Very manly of him.





Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 13, 2017, 09:11:14 AM
Curry can't stand Durant.

Curry wants to be top dog.

Durant steals his thunder.

You can see Curry was a little pissed when Durant got the Finals MVP award.  He really needs that award to validate things.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Earl1972 on June 13, 2017, 01:33:39 PM
the KING dominated, averaged a triple double

michael who?

to look that good against these warriors i can just imagine what he could've done to the jazz in the 90's, imagine bryan russel guarding him LOL

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Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 13, 2017, 01:44:07 PM
the KING dominated, averaged a triple double

michael who?

to look that good against these warriors i can just imagine what he could've done to the jazz in the 90's, imagine bryan russel guarding him LOL

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You mean Michael 6-0 in NBA finals?
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 13, 2017, 01:45:23 PM
Lol at sports illustrated sucking on Lebron's jock.

"What truly amazed over the five games was how LeBron James kept his ragtag team in the last three games of the series."

ragtag?  You mean all star Kyrie and All star Love?  I bet every team would love to be that rag tag.  Fucking joke.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 13, 2017, 01:51:40 PM
the KING dominated, averaged a triple double

michael who?

to look that good against these warriors i can just imagine what he could've done to the jazz in the 90's, imagine bryan russel guarding him LOL

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5 Finals loses, tell me again how he's "The King".  Lost 2 out of 3 to San Antonio and lost 2 out of 3 to Golden State.  Somehow managed to beat a young inexperienced Thunder team.

In every Finals appearance except one (2007) Lebron was playing on a stacked team full of All-Stars.  Somehow everyone still makes excuses that his opponents were just better teams.

Lebron is a great player but he isn't "The King".  He is Wilt Chamberlain 2.0.  All the athleticism and stats in the world but loses a lot of finals games.

Plus he's a douchebag.

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Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: mazrim on June 13, 2017, 02:02:40 PM
Lebron is so out of touch. "I've never played with a super team", hahaha.

He is one of the dumber players in the league when he talks. Always seems to say something really stupid when he opens his mouth.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: mazrim on June 13, 2017, 02:04:03 PM
the KING dominated, averaged a triple double

michael who?

to look that good against these warriors i can just imagine what he could've done to the jazz in the 90's, imagine bryan russel guarding him LOL

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Lost again badly.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Earl1972 on June 13, 2017, 03:52:20 PM
You mean Michael 6-0 in NBA finals?


yeah that michael who had the best team and coach against garbage competition and also the same michael that led the wizards to a 37 - 45 record in his 14th season, the KING had a triple double in the finals (only one ever in the history of the finals, and he did it against the best team ever) in his 14th season

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Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Earl1972 on June 13, 2017, 03:54:56 PM
Lost again badly.

while being the first player averaging a triple double in the finals, and he did it against the best team ever

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Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Earl1972 on June 13, 2017, 03:57:28 PM
Lebron is so out of touch. "I've never played with a super team", hahaha.

He is one of the dumber players in the league when he talks. Always seems to say something really stupid when he opens his mouth.

the "super" team he was on wasn't a title contender before he joined the team and they were only a super team because he played for them, tell me again what the heat did when he left

the warriors had the best record ever without durant and only didn't win that title because they played against the KING



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Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 13, 2017, 04:14:04 PM
yeah that michael who had the best team and coach against garbage competition and also the same michael that led the wizards to a 37 - 45 record in his 14th season, the KING had a triple double in the finals (only one ever in the history of the finals, and he did it against the best team ever) in his 14th season

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Yeah. Garbage players in hall of famers that his team beat
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: hp31 on June 13, 2017, 05:44:24 PM
yeah that michael who had the best team and coach against garbage competition and also the same michael that led the wizards to a 37 - 45 record in his 14th season, the KING had a triple double in the finals (only one ever in the history of the finals, and he did it against the best team ever) in his 14th season

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Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 13, 2017, 08:42:55 PM
Lebron is so out of touch. "I've never played with a super team", hahaha.

He is one of the dumber players in the league when he talks. Always seems to say something really stupid when he opens his mouth.

My God yes.  He's always saying stupid douchey things, then contradicting himself, and then blaming the media and the fans and whoever else.

This new phase of his where he is trying to be "Martin Luther King-James" is laughable.  He has a shitty Ohio public High School education.  He is talented but dumb.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: mazrim on June 14, 2017, 08:14:23 AM
the "super" team he was on wasn't a title contender before he joined the team and they were only a super team because he played for them, tell me again what the heat did when he left

the warriors had the best record ever without durant and only didn't win that title because they played against the KING



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Sorry, bud. You join together with Wade and Bosh who were two top 10 players in the league, you are on a superteam.

Then you join together with Love and Irving (two top ten players in the league), you are a super team. That reality.

Unless you are making mockery of the "team" aspect where Lebron seems to have trouble with getting the most out of other star players.

BTW, Kyrie won that championship for them. He was the big shot taker/maker. He took them. Not Lebron.

Just admit when he says something stupid/makes excuses. Doesn't mean he is a worse player because of it.

Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 14, 2017, 11:02:33 AM
How are people defending Lebrun when they got beat in 5
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: CalvinH on June 14, 2017, 12:20:37 PM
I'm glad this crappy basketball is done so that now we can get to the important stuff.




.....by that I mean the New York Yankees and Aaron Judge 8)
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Shizzo on June 14, 2017, 01:30:55 PM
I'm glad this crappy basketball is done so that now we can get to the important stuff.




.....by that I mean the New York Yankees and Aaron Judge 8)
There is no way regular season baseball is more exciting to watch than playoff basketball. Now lets get to the real important stuff.......ny that I mean the New England Patriots and Tom Brady.  ;)
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Hulkotron on June 15, 2017, 04:56:52 AM
Lol at sports illustrated sucking on Lebron's jock.

"What truly amazed over the five games was how LeBron James kept his ragtag team in the last three games of the series."

ragtag?  You mean all star Kyrie and All star Love?  I bet every team would love to be that rag tag.  Fucking joke.

lol :D He also claimed recently he's never played on a Super Team.  I guess LeBron needs at least three other all-stars including at least two Hall-of-Famers all in their primes to be on a Super Team.

I also love how people act like LeBron going to the Finals all the time (but losing most of the time) is impressive and is somehow a point up over Jordan.  The East has been weak as shit his entire career outside of the Celtics, who he couldn't beat until they were all over the hill.  When he gets to the Finals and has to play a dominant Western Conference team he loses.

Jordan also went to (and won, rather easily) the Finals every full year he played for the Bulls from 1991 onward.  

Typical Millennial "give me praise for participating and failing" attitude towards life.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 15, 2017, 11:10:14 AM
yeah that michael who had the best team and coach against garbage competition and also the same michael that led the wizards to a 37 - 45 record in his 14th season, the KING had a triple double in the finals (only one ever in the history of the finals, and he did it against the best team ever) in his 14th season


the "super" team he was on wasn't a title contender before he joined the team and they were only a super team because he played for them, tell me again what the heat did when he left

the warriors had the best record ever without durant and only didn't win that title because they played against the KING


You are embarrassing yourself.  First of all MJ didn't have garbage competition, he made his competition look like garbage.

Secondly, acting like the Heat wasn't a superteam is laughable no matter how you frame it.

You, much like your hero Lebron, are full of excuses.  In the real world, excuses can take a walk.

Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 15, 2017, 11:18:05 AM
You are embarrassing yourself.  First of all MJ didn't have garbage competition, he made his competition look like garbage.

Secondly, acting like the Heat wasn't a superteam is laughable no matter how you frame it.

You, much like your hero Lebron, are full of excuses.  In the real world, excuses can take a walk.



Let's see who the Bulls beat

91.  Hof Magic
92. Hof Clyde Drexler
93. Hof Charles Barkley
96. Hof Gary Payton and Shawn Kemp
97. Hof Karl Malone and John Stockton
98. Hof Karl Malone and John Stockton

Yes, all garbage right?  ::)

Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 15, 2017, 11:26:09 AM
Let's see who the Bulls beat

91.  Hof Magic
92. Hof Clyde Drexler
93. Hof Charles Barkley
96. Hof Gary Payton and Shawn Kemp
97. Hof Karl Malone and John Stockton
98. Hof Karl Malone and John Stockton

Yes, all garbage right?  ::)




Lebron and his fans are just mad at Kevin Durant because he out-Lebroned Lebron.

Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Earl1972 on June 15, 2017, 11:45:35 AM
Yeah. Garbage players in hall of famers that his team beat

what teams did jordan beat that had more hall of famers than his own team?

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Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Earl1972 on June 15, 2017, 11:47:41 AM
Sorry, bud. You join together with Wade and Bosh who were two top 10 players in the league, you are on a superteam.

Then you join together with Love and Irving (two top ten players in the league), you are a super team. That reality.

Unless you are making mockery of the "team" aspect where Lebron seems to have trouble with getting the most out of other star players.

BTW, Kyrie won that championship for them. He was the big shot taker/maker. He took them. Not Lebron.

Just admit when he says something stupid/makes excuses. Doesn't mean he is a worse player because of it.



wade and bosh was not a proven title winner like the warriors were, there was  no guarantee they would have chemistry, ask barkley about team chemistry when you form a "super team"

love is nowhere near top 10

kyrie won that title LOL i'll admit the KING says "dumb" things when you finally give him the credit he deserves, which is probably never

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Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Earl1972 on June 15, 2017, 11:49:26 AM
How are people defending Lebrun when they got beat in 5

simple

he lost to the best team ever while being the only player in the finals EVER to have a triple double

a better question would be why are people shitting on him when he was clearly the best player on a floor?

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Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Earl1972 on June 15, 2017, 11:52:01 AM
You are embarrassing yourself.  First of all MJ didn't have garbage competition, he made his competition look like garbage.

Secondly, acting like the Heat wasn't a superteam is laughable no matter how you frame it.

You, much like your hero Lebron, are full of excuses.  In the real world, excuses can take a walk.



the KING makes his competiton look like garbage, it just takes a team to win

the KING had to form his super team, how else would anybody beat the super team boston built?  or the spurs super team?

in the real world i live in the present, you are still pretending 20 years ago is still relevant and that humans have gotten worse at basketball

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Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Earl1972 on June 15, 2017, 11:53:38 AM
Let's see who the Bulls beat

91.  Hof Magic
92. Hof Clyde Drexler
93. Hof Charles Barkley
96. Hof Gary Payton and Shawn Kemp
97. Hof Karl Malone and John Stockton
98. Hof Karl Malone and John Stockton

Yes, all garbage right?  ::)



all teams with less hall of famers than jordan's

none of those guys are better than curry or durant, magic was past his prime

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Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 15, 2017, 01:38:45 PM
all teams with less hall of famers than jordan's

none of those guys are better than curry or durant, magic was past his prime

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Huh?  Payton was one of the best defenders ever and could also score.  He is what Kawhi is today.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: mazrim on June 15, 2017, 02:36:49 PM
wade and bosh was not a proven title winner like the warriors were, there was  no guarantee they would have chemistry, ask barkley about team chemistry when you form a "super team"

love is nowhere near top 10

kyrie won that title LOL i'll admit the KING says "dumb" things when you finally give him the credit he deserves, which is probably never

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Hmmm....Wade not a proven title winner. Too bad he won without Lebron.

Yep, Love "is" not top 10 now. Before he went to Cleveland he was. Same with Bosh. Lebron cannot play with other stars well or the teams he created would have won much more. It's painfully obvious.

Kyrie was the big shot taker/maker when they needed them. Lebron would not have won without him and Kyrie would not have won without Lebron. Not that hard to comprehend. I can admit I used potentially misconstrued language but Lebron cannot/would not have made the big shots Kyrie did during that series.

I already said Lebron was a great player. He is no Jordan though. Your turn.

BTW, it's embarrassing that you call someone " The King".

"The King" of creating underperforming super teams maybe.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 15, 2017, 05:39:03 PM
the KING makes his competiton look like garbage, it just takes a team to win

the KING had to form his super team, how else would anybody beat the super team boston built?  or the spurs super team?

in the real world i live in the present, you are still pretending 20 years ago is still relevant and that humans have gotten worse at basketball

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First of all Jesus Christ is the only King.

Secondly, Lebron made that team.  He is the coach and the GM, if it's not built good enough to beat Golden State then it's his fault.

He forced the Cavs to trade Wiggins for Kevin Love.

He forced them to fire Blatt and hire his stooge Tyronne Lue who was in over his head in this series and got thoroughly out-coached.

He forced them to overpay Tristan Thompson who was absolute trash in the series.

He forced them to overpay JR Smith who played ok.

He forced them to sign a playmaker that turned out to be Deron williams who was trash in the series.

He forced them to make a trade for Kyle Korver who was trash and did nothing in the series.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 15, 2017, 05:46:43 PM
Getting rid of Wiggins for Love was so stupid. Wiggins, James and Kylie running the floor would have been insane.  Fuck James for forcing that trade. He didn't want someone on the team to steal his thunder.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 15, 2017, 05:57:42 PM
Getting rid of Wiggins for Love was so stupid. Wiggins, James and Kylie running the floor would have been insane.  Fuck James for forcing that trade. He didn't want someone on the team to steal his thunder.

With rare exception, Kevin Love has been absolute trash. 

Now the Cavs are looking for a young athletic wing......kinda like the guy Lebron traded for Love.  lol.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 15, 2017, 06:56:39 PM
With rare exception, Kevin Love has been absolute trash. 

Now the Cavs are looking for a young athletic wing......kinda like the guy Lebron traded for Love.  lol.

Even worse than that is that with Wiggins he would have been on a  5 year rookie deal meaning the Cavs would have more money for a couple good bench players or even a 4th All Star starter. 
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 15, 2017, 07:45:42 PM
Even worse than that is that with Wiggins he would have been on a  5 year rookie deal meaning the Cavs would have more money for a couple good bench players or even a 4th All Star starter. 


Bwahahahaha!

Lebron James : Player, Coach, GM.   He's gone from Cleveland after next season too, just watch.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Dave D on June 15, 2017, 08:13:50 PM
the "super" team he was on wasn't a title contender before he joined the team and they were only a super team because he played for them, tell me again what the heat did when he left

the warriors had the best record ever without durant and only didn't win that title because they played against the KING



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Earl I'm loving your troll job. A+

And for the record: Kyrie #1 overall pick, K Love #5 overall (traded for TWO #1 overall picks),  T Thompson #4 overall,  and of course LeBron was a #1 overall. Let's not forget both Deron and Derrick Williams are also top 3 picks.

Top 5 picks for Golden State? KD and Shaun Livingston.

LeBron is great but not the greatest.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Dave D on June 15, 2017, 08:22:07 PM
simple

he lost to the best team ever while being the only player in the finals EVER to have a triple double

a better question would be why are people shitting on him when he was clearly the best player on a floor?

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The triple double is outstanding but by  that  lovic Westbrook is the best player ever because he is only the second player to average a triple double for the season, lead the league in scoring and he's only 6'3.....

I think LeBron was at his best the first year the Cavs  and Warriors met.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: ChristopherA on June 15, 2017, 08:42:41 PM
First off stop calling the Warriors the best team ever when the Bulls or '86 Celtics are the best team ever. Prob the Bulls because of Jordan the GOAT. Of course basketball has regressed. The players aren't tough any more, defenses are shit, all players can do is dunk and no one can shoot. The Detroit Pistons would have beat the fuck out of either finals teams. Sports can't regress? So bb is better than ever right and prime LeBron would get blown off today's stage?
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Hulkotron on June 16, 2017, 03:19:55 AM
The 1991 Lakers had two players currently in the Hall of Fame, Magic of course and James Worthy.  Worthy was 29 years old and averaged 21.4 PPG that year (19.2 in the Finals).  He was a seven-time all-star, a two-time All-NBA player, and was the national player of the year his final year in college.

So the claim by the imbecile "earl" that Jordan's teams always had more Hall of Famers than the teams he beat is, as usual of his claims, wrong.  Maybe "he" thinks Horace Grant is in the hall.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 16, 2017, 09:54:27 AM
After this years NBA Finals even the Lebron nut-huggers on ESPN are admitting that Lebron is not good in crunch time.

Jordan excelled when the pressure was at it's highest.  Look at the end of game 6 in the 1998 Finals.  MJ steals the ball and then prceeds to hit the dagger to win the series.

Lebron almost has as many finals losses(5) as MJ has wins(6).  lol.  That's why they play the games, not to get triple-doubles, but to win.
Title: Re: NBA Finals 2017 - Cavs vs Warriors Rematch
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 16, 2017, 12:07:30 PM
Just hope it's not Cavs v. Warriors 4 again.  Want someone in the east to step up and do something big.