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Title: Slim or Bulk?!?!?
Post by: Julio Ceasar on June 20, 2017, 06:56:46 AM
Whats the best thing. I have tried both. Ripped is far far harder to be. Bulk is easy, happy life, train less eat what the fuck u want whenever u want...

No more, no less girls no matter how u look...well, a little bit more hello and smile when your slim

Food taste better when your slim...you enjoy it more. But then...u can't really enjoy it bcz when u eat a lot u know u will need 3-4 dags to get back on track again...

I guess life is better bulky, all people are fat - they can't be wrong...u can have dinner outside all the time, have candy n snacks front of tv. bbq etc etc...I guess bulk is the way...

THERE IS A MENTAL CONFLICT ABOUT STAYING IN SHAPE...IS IT REALLY WORTH IT?


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Post by: ratherbebig on June 20, 2017, 07:27:25 AM
"When suffering comes, we yearn for some sign from God, forgetting we have just had one."
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Post by: #1GymRat on June 20, 2017, 07:30:12 AM
When you not in shpae it not just body that is not in shape but mind and brain too! you call bulk i call lzay and no energy to do what you need in gym and out but also outside! STAY IN SAHPE AND DO EXERCISEs. food taste same how you say milk is not milk if you are fat or not fat it is always same food you make up things just go to gym eat food but not to much food so you get lazy and loose mind and shape

Whats the best thing. I have tried both. Ripped is far far harder to be. Bulk is easy, happy life, train less eat what the fuck u want whenever u want...

No more, no less girls no matter how u look...well, a little bit more hello and smile when your slim

Food taste better when your slim...you enjoy it more. But then...u can't really enjoy it bcz when u eat a lot u know u will need 3-4 dags to get back on track again...

I guess life is better bulky, all people are fat - they can't be wrong...u can have dinner outside all the time, have candy n snacks front of tv. bbq etc etc...I guess bulk is the way...

THERE IS A MENTAL CONFLICT ABOUT STAYING IN SHAPE...IS IT REALLY WORTH IT?



Title: Re: Slim or Bulk?!?!?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 20, 2017, 09:58:19 AM
Whats the best thing. I have tried both. Ripped is far far harder to be. Bulk is easy, happy life, train less eat what the fuck u want whenever u want...

No more, no less girls no matter how u look...well, a little bit more hello and smile when your slim

Food taste better when your slim...you enjoy it more. But then...u can't really enjoy it bcz when u eat a lot u know u will need 3-4 dags to get back on track again...

I guess life is better bulky, all people are fat - they can't be wrong...u can have dinner outside all the time, have candy n snacks front of tv. bbq etc etc...I guess bulk is the way...

THERE IS A MENTAL CONFLICT ABOUT STAYING IN SHAPE...IS IT REALLY WORTH IT?




Depends on goals. You can't stay "ripped" all year round, it serves no purpose except for ego and if you're natural makes it damn near impossible to add muscle plus it's damn near an eating disorder. You can be just as healthy if not more at a little heavier weight than you can if you were "ripped".
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Post by: johnnynoname on June 20, 2017, 10:06:52 AM
I'm gonna make this answer easy for a lot of you


WOMEN DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE FAT, SKINNY, RIPPED OR PERMABULKED---THEY WILL STILL FUCK YOU



so, with all that prefaced people should choose a body type that will allow them to go on and try and enjoy there life


the only people the above doesn't pertain to are people who are legit, competitive physique athletes
Title: Re: Slim or Bulk?!?!?
Post by: ratherbebig on June 20, 2017, 10:26:23 AM
I'm gonna make this answer easy for a lot of you


WOMEN DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE FAT, SKINNY, RIPPED OR PERMABULKED---THEY WILL STILL FUCK YOU



whatabout men?
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Post by: johnnynoname on June 20, 2017, 10:39:01 AM
whatabout men?

are you being facetious or legit when you ask that?
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Post by: The True Adonis on June 20, 2017, 01:40:46 PM
Depends on goals. You can't stay "ripped" all year round, it serves no purpose except for ego and if you're natural makes it damn near impossible to add muscle plus it's damn near an eating disorder. You can be just as healthy if not more at a little heavier weight than you can if you were "ripped".
None of that is true at all, especially for a natural.  Go tell that to Jeff Cavalier and watch him laugh in your face. 
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Post by: Bevo on June 20, 2017, 02:23:10 PM
Depends on goals. You can't stay "ripped" all year round, it serves no purpose except for ego and if you're natural makes it damn near impossible to add muscle plus it's damn near an eating disorder. You can be just as healthy if not more at a little heavier weight than you can if you were "ripped".

That's an excuse to be out of shape and permabulking year round
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Post by: dj181 on June 20, 2017, 02:36:56 PM
figure out at which body fat you look best at and stay there

Title: Re: Slim or Bulk?!?!?
Post by: ratherbebig on June 20, 2017, 04:17:14 PM
3-5% bf

no need to go lower

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Post by: TheShape. on June 20, 2017, 04:37:46 PM
I'm at 8/9% all year, it's not hard if you're not a fat ass.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on June 20, 2017, 04:39:22 PM
None of that is true at all, especially for a natural.  Go tell that to Jeff Cavalier and watch him laugh in your face. 

I have no idea who jeff cavalier is but bring him on so we can discuss it.
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Post by: Tennisballz on June 20, 2017, 04:41:06 PM
Why do you want to be ripped or shredded?  It doesn't look good at all.  You look sick and weird.  12% is best and pretty easy to maintain.

On the flip side why would you want to bulk?  It serves no purpose and outside your first year of training you won't gain any appreciable amount of muscle from a bulk.

You'd do much better to focus your energy on addressing your body image disorder.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on June 20, 2017, 04:41:12 PM
Maybe staying at the body fat level where you can see a hint of abs. Like not too ripped and not too bloofy, just healthy athletic easy to maintain without a ton of supplements or obsessive restrictive diet and training. 10 - 15% body fat depending on how you store fat.

12-15 is a good healthy percentage.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on June 20, 2017, 04:42:35 PM
Why does anyone want to be ripped or shredded?  It doesn't look good at all.  You look sick and weird.  12% is best and pretty easy to maintain.

Yep, I'm at 15. Will drop some this summer down to about 9/10 but no further.
Title: Re: Slim or Bulk?!?!?
Post by: Bevo on June 20, 2017, 04:52:04 PM
Why do you want to be ripped or shredded?  It doesn't look good at all.  You look sick and weird.  12% is best and pretty easy to maintain.

On the flip side why would you want to bulk?  It serves no purpose and outside your first year of training you won't gain any appreciable amount of muscle from a bulk.

You'd do much better to focus your energy on addressing your body image disorder.

Why even bother to work out at all?
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Post by: Coach is Back! on June 20, 2017, 04:55:16 PM
Why even bother to work out at all?

lol....seriously?
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Post by: SF1900 on June 20, 2017, 06:49:04 PM
The average getbigger walks around looking like this

(http://broscience.co/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/vascular.jpg)
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Post by: Tennisballz on June 20, 2017, 09:00:05 PM
Why even bother to work out at all?
Well, why do you workout?  Is it to cope with a body image disorder?  OP clearly has one, how about you?
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Post by: heenok on June 21, 2017, 12:43:04 AM
The average getbigger walks around looking like this

(http://broscience.co/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/vascular.jpg)

this dude works out occasionaly at my gym
he stays like this year round pretty much
Title: Re: Slim or Bulk?!?!?
Post by: Henda on June 21, 2017, 01:32:28 AM
Maybe staying at the body fat level where you can see a hint of abs. Like not too ripped and not too bloofy, just healthy athletic easy to maintain without a ton of supplements or obsessive restrictive diet and training. 10 - 15% body fat depending on how you store fat.

Completely agree, allows you to actually enjoy life while still being happy enough with how you look, I couldn't think of nothing worse than pulling out a plastic box with chicken and rice while your lass and kids enjoy fish and chips or whatever during a day at the coast or microwaving porrige oats in the morning of a Saturday shift at work while the lads are eating a fried breakfast. If your competing or make a living from how you look then fair enough but otherwise is it really worth the hassle?
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Post by: SF1900 on June 21, 2017, 04:42:00 AM
this dude works out occasionaly at my gym
he stays like this year round pretty much

Hi ESFitness.
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Post by: ratherbebig on June 21, 2017, 04:49:10 AM
WHATEVER IT TAKES GODDAMMIT!!!
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Post by: YngiweRhoads on June 21, 2017, 04:58:34 AM
I'm at 8/9% all year, it's not hard if you're not a fat ass.

This.

You feel healthy. Strength and energy levels are great. Face looks lean and calorie restriction extends life.

100% win.
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Post by: Bulgarian_enforcer on June 21, 2017, 02:32:58 PM
summer time is low fat season bud. enough said. during winter months you can dirty bulk and get gainz.
Title: Re: Slim or Bulk?!?!?
Post by: The True Adonis on June 21, 2017, 04:03:41 PM
I have no idea who jeff cavalier is but bring him on so we can discuss it.
He PWNS you
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Post by: Bevo on June 21, 2017, 04:45:59 PM
Completely agree, allows you to actually enjoy life while still being happy enough with how you look, I couldn't think of nothing worse than pulling out a plastic box with chicken and rice while your lass and kids enjoy fish and chips or whatever during a day at the coast or microwaving porrige oats in the morning of a Saturday shift at work while the lads are eating a fried breakfast. If your competing or make a living from how you look then fair enough but otherwise is it really worth the hassle?

I agree

I've seen idiots at the gym during sets pull out plastic containers and start eating chicken and rice between sets and their physiques aren't even national level  ::)
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Post by: Coach is Back! on June 21, 2017, 09:28:28 PM
He PWNS you


I quit listening at the 4:55 mark because he's doing preaching something most good trainers already know. He used an example of someone who either trained for a decent amount of time in the past, quit for awhile and came back to it or this is someone who just started training and through training, his body composition changed a little. Flash. We and most good trainers do this everyday, it's common it's not some breakthrough.

Why does claim to be as lean as he it all the time? 1. This is what he does for a living 2. His body type calls for it. 3. He's taking some sort of fat burner and GH isn't out of the question. He's say he's 41. Carry on.

You've fallen in love like this a lot over the years with these heros of yours that you claim to be natty or extra lean, why should this one be any different?
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Post by: dj181 on June 22, 2017, 03:35:05 AM
He PWNS you


this is the holy grail  8)

and I'm attempting it right now but jacking up protein a day lowering the other macros

I did this some years ago and I actually gained 5 pounds and dropped a percent body fat ie. my skin folds went down

just started this a few days ago and it appears to be working already

OUTSTANDING  :) and it feels great!!!
Title: Re: Slim or Bulk?!?!?
Post by: The True Adonis on June 22, 2017, 04:21:06 PM
this is the holy grail  8)

and I'm attempting it right now but jacking up protein a day lowering the other macros

I did this some years ago and I actually gained 5 pounds and dropped a percent body fat ie. my skin folds went down

just started this a few days ago and it appears to be working already

OUTSTANDING  :) and it feels great!!!
It works.  I just did it myself.

I have a theory regarding protein as a natural.  If you go through periods of low protein with heavy lifting, then blasting the protein with heavy lifting, you may be able to break through plateaus (especially for an advanced or experienced natural lifter)

But yeah, I gained muscle and lost body fat in a deficit these past few weeks.  My body weight really did not change but I got a shit ton leaner, abs out etc... and strength has gone up.

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Post by: The True Adonis on June 22, 2017, 04:22:27 PM
I quit listening at the 4:55 mark because he's doing preaching something most good trainers already know. He used an example of someone who either trained for a decent amount of time in the past, quit for awhile and came back to it or this is someone who just started training and through training, his body composition changed a little. Flash. We and most good trainers do this everyday, it's common it's not some breakthrough.

Why does claim to be as lean as he it all the time? 1. This is what he does for a living 2. His body type calls for it. 3. He's taking some sort of fat burner and GH isn't out of the question. He's say he's 41. Carry on.

You've fallen in love like this a lot over the years with these heros of yours that you claim to be natty or extra lean, why should this one be any different?
You are a moron. Jealous at that.

Jeff pwns you!
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Post by: Shizzo on June 22, 2017, 04:26:57 PM
It works.  I just did it myself.

I have a theory regarding protein as a natural.  If you go through periods of low protein with heavy lifting, then blasting the protein with heavy lifting, you may be able to break through plateaus (especially for an advanced or experienced natural lifter)

But yeah, I gained muscle and lost body fat in a deficit these past few weeks.  My body weight really did not change but I got a shit ton leaner, abs out etc... and strength has gone up.


I will go ahead and put my deposit down, for your updated pics in 2019.
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Post by: The True Adonis on June 22, 2017, 04:58:19 PM
I will go ahead and put my deposit down, for your updated pics in 2019.
You would get PWNED so bad if I posted them.

Up for a wager of any kind?
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Post by: oldtimer1 on June 22, 2017, 06:59:59 PM
Listen to all the fatsos on this board make a case against being lean. 

Here's my take. If you eat anything you want including drinking beer while lifting heavy you will look great in clothes but not so good with your shirt off.  If you are super lean you will look like you don't even lift wearing clothes but will look amazing with your shirt off. Being lean is healthier than being a perma bulker.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2017, 07:04:37 PM
You are a moron. Jealous at that.

Jeff pwns you!

Don't be upset cupcake. I don't get jealous and I especially don't get jealous over twinks regurgitating shit that's been done forever. 
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Post by: Primemuscle on June 22, 2017, 07:43:19 PM
Acknowledge your genetic predisposition. Work with what you have. Don't shoot for extremes or dramatic changes in a limited time frame. Train to be healthy as possible and not as bulked or cut as you imagine. There is no magic here, just good commonsense. Be patient and don't ever give up. If you gain 5 lbs of muscle a year for five years you are doing great.
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Post by: Bulgarian_enforcer on June 23, 2017, 05:31:06 AM
I eat pretty much a lot of crap and stay lean thx to hgh/primo/aromasin and lil testosterona baby
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Post by: dj181 on June 23, 2017, 12:30:51 PM
It works.  I just did it myself.

I have a theory regarding protein as a natural.  If you go through periods of low protein with heavy lifting, then blasting the protein with heavy lifting, you may be able to break through plateaus (especially for an advanced or experienced natural lifter)

But yeah, I gained muscle and lost body fat in a deficit these past few weeks.  My body weight really did not change but I got a shit ton leaner, abs out etc... and strength has gone up.



good stuff

how much pro are you taking in?

I'm starring at 1.5 grams per pound, and I may go to 2

Charles put 'em on the Glass recommends 1.5-2 grams per pound

I've seen others recommend 2 grams per pound and that seems to velvet the highest recommendation
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Post by: Kwon on June 23, 2017, 12:39:19 PM
I quit listening at the 4:55 mark because he's doing preaching something most good trainers already know. He used an example of someone who either trained for a decent amount of time in the past, quit for awhile and came back to it or this is someone who just started training and through training, his body composition changed a little. Flash. We and most good trainers do this everyday, it's common it's not some breakthrough.

I quit listening around the 6:02 mark.
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Post by: njflex on June 23, 2017, 12:50:17 PM
lean enough for abs every body is different 'holding ,fat,water,not killing yourself to be shredded to levels of competing but big enough in clothes and out if u can thats a balance but if u can thats ideal.
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Post by: dj181 on June 23, 2017, 12:57:14 PM
lean enough for abs every body is different 'holding ,fat,water,not killing yourself to be shredded to levels of competing but big enough in clothes and out if u can thats a balance but if u can thats ideal.

6-8% is ideal if you enjoy wearing string tanks like me

if you wanna look big in your short sleeve shirt without showing much skin than 10-12 is acceptable I guess. ..
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Post by: njflex on June 23, 2017, 01:19:55 PM
6-8% is ideal if you enjoy wearing string tanks like me

if you wanna look big in your short sleeve shirt without showing much skin than 10-12 is acceptable I guess. ..
yeah 8 to10,,again people could be lean all over but lower back legs soft ,,vice versa pecs soft no  lines  and seperated legs
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Post by: Julio Ceasar on June 23, 2017, 01:49:19 PM
I would like to say 6-8% range is the best 3-4 weeks out of contest shape...but most people here are on drugs, not many natties who can hold that shape all year round. One pizza and Im up 2 pound, 2 cheat meals per week and I need to diet for 10 days to get back on track...cheatmeal and sweet stuff also trigger the addiction for more shitty food...thats the problem...

Sometimes it feel ok, sometimes I feel like I wanna give up. Then I see all these fat fucks around and it motivates me to continue to stay lean...

But yeah, staying lean without a pump and carload just make u look like nobody with clothes...but most girls like the look of soccer players slim, so why not continue...and 15% without carbload will make u look like a absolute sloppy fatso...so I guess I have to continue to stay in shape...

The Coach is absolutely not 15% haha...he is a fat dude almost 300 pound, more like 30-40% bf, delusional of peace! When u have been in shape for some time your perspective start to change...suddenly all these people you thought hade some muscles are just puffy goffy swole fatsos...
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Post by: Julio Ceasar on June 23, 2017, 01:51:21 PM
I'm at 8/9% all year, it's not hard if you're not a fat ass.

Are u a natty?
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Post by: dj181 on June 23, 2017, 02:13:01 PM
I would like to say 6-8% range is the best 3-4 weeks out of contest shape...but most people here are on drugs, not many natties who can hold that shape all year round. One pizza and Im up 2 pound, 2 cheat meals per week and I need to diet for 10 days to get back on track...cheatmeal and sweet stuff also trigger the addiction for more shitty food...thats the problem...

Sometimes it feel ok, sometimes I feel like I wanna give up. Then I see all these fat fucks around and it motivates me to continue to stay lean...

But yeah, staying lean without a pump and carload just make u look like nobody with clothes...but most girls like the look of soccer players slim, so why not continue...and 15% without carbload will make u look like a absolute sloppy fatso...so I guess I have to continue to stay in shape...

The Coach is absolutely not 15% haha...he is a fat dude almost 300 pound, more like 30-40% bf, delusional of peace! When u have been in shape for some time your perspective start to change...suddenly all these people you thought hade some muscles are just puffy goffy swole fatsos...

as I said

6-8% is ideal if you enjoy wearing string tanks like me

if you wanna look big in your short sleeve shirt without showing much skin than 10-12 is acceptable I guess. ..

did you hook up with that tight ass Asian female yet?
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Post by: The True Adonis on June 23, 2017, 04:31:14 PM
good stuff

how much pro are you taking in?

I'm starring at 1.5 grams per pound, and I may go to 2

Charles put 'em on the Glass recommends 1.5-2 grams per pound

I've seen others recommend 2 grams per pound and that seems to velvet the highest recommendation
1.1-1.3 g per lb of bodyweight.

Google Eric Helms Protein Recommendation

Eric Helms has published peer reviewed studies that specifically monitored Natural Bodybuilders.

He is about the best authority you can get-backed with Science.
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Post by: JCL on June 23, 2017, 04:38:09 PM
being lean hands down.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on June 23, 2017, 07:01:34 PM
I would like to say 6-8% range is the best 3-4 weeks out of contest shape...but most people here are on drugs, not many natties who can hold that shape all year round. One pizza and Im up 2 pound, 2 cheat meals per week and I need to diet for 10 days to get back on track...cheatmeal and sweet stuff also trigger the addiction for more shitty food...thats the problem...

Sometimes it feel ok, sometimes I feel like I wanna give up. Then I see all these fat fucks around and it motivates me to continue to stay lean...

But yeah, staying lean without a pump and carload just make u look like nobody with clothes...but most girls like the look of soccer players slim, so why not continue...and 15% without carbload will make u look like a absolute sloppy fatso...so I guess I have to continue to stay in shape...

The Coach is absolutely not 15% haha...he is a fat dude almost 300 pound, more like 30-40% bf, delusional of peace! When u have been in shape for some time your perspective start to change...suddenly all these people you thought hade some muscles are just puffy goffy swole fatsos...

I'm almost 300lbs? Gimmick of peace. I would bet your account on it but you would only come back as another gimmick.
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Post by: Julio Ceasar on June 23, 2017, 10:23:09 PM
as I said

did you hook up with that tight ass Asian female yet?

Nope, she is to rare and beautiful, I bet there have been lots of incidents that force her to hide away and find places where men leave her alone...I once saw her wearing white (it was a killer 10), to much attention I guess, after that all black...
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Post by: dj181 on June 24, 2017, 02:50:58 AM
1.1-1.3 g per lb of bodyweight.

Google Eric Helms Protein Recommendation

Eric Helms has published peer reviewed studies that specifically monitored Natural Bodybuilders.

He is about the best authority you can get-backed with Science.

thanks I'll check him out

15's buddy Dante and sons also recommends 2 grams per pound but it may be a bit overkill

Nope, she is to rare and beautiful, I bet there have been lots of incidents that force her to hide away and find places where men leave her alone...I once saw her wearing white (it was a killer 10), to much attention I guess, after that all black...

that's pretty incredible that an Asian female would hhave a round sexy bubble ass,  lucky you that you get to see it

Mike Mentzer used to say "take a look at some hot females in the gym, that will get your test levels up"
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Post by: Primemuscle on June 24, 2017, 10:13:13 AM
The last couple of years, I've striven to be leaner and succeeded. For me, this was not difficult. The result is feeling better and clothes fit better. One negative is that it's taken longer for my skin to shrink....maybe this comes with age. One sticking point has been the fat on my lower back (probably not more than a couple of pounds).

I cannot claim to be natural since I inject 100 mg testosterone cypionate weekly to counter some of the effects of hypogonadism. Although I do not intentionally do much to lose weight, my norm is to follow a healthy and balanced diet.

It is my intention to do some form of exercise on a daily basis. I don't always succeed. I prefer weight training over cardio, but try to incorporate at least 10 minutes of cardio each day.