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Title: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Taffin on June 22, 2017, 05:43:54 PM
(BB related because I posted a picture of Ray Cutler holding a f**k-off .50cal a few days ago...)

This record has changed hands a few times recently, but this is a massive leap forwards...

A sniper with Canada’s elite special forces in Iraq has shattered the world record for the longest confirmed kill shot in military history at a staggering distance of 3,540 metres.  The Canadian Armed Forces confirmed Thursday that a member of Joint Task Force 2 made the record-breaking shot, killing an Islamic State insurgent during an operation in Iraq within the last month.  The elite sniper was using a McMillan TAC-50 sniper rifle while firing from a high-rise during an operation that took place within the last month in Iraq.

Canada has a reputation among Western military forces for the quality of its snipers, despite the small size of the Canadian Armed Forces compared to the United States and Britain.


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canadian-elite-special-forces-sniper-sets-record-breaking-kill-shot-in-iraq/article35415651/ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canadian-elite-special-forces-sniper-sets-record-breaking-kill-shot-in-iraq/article35415651/)

Great read for ballistics nerds

"  ....we can estimate that a range of 3,750yds the sniper had to correct his sights and aim off by more than 12 thousand inches to compensate for the drop of his bullet over such a great distance. The bullet was in the air for 9.7 seconds."

 :o :o

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/22/canadian_sniper_3450m_shot_iraq/ (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/22/canadian_sniper_3450m_shot_iraq/)
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Twaddle on June 22, 2017, 06:50:49 PM
If the shot is true, and it really happened, it was pure luck/chance.  He'd need to adjust for around -250 MOA.  Not sure there's a scope capable of that.   :-\

Cool story bro.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Ropo on June 22, 2017, 07:13:21 PM
If the shot is true, and it really happened, it was pure luck/chance.  He'd need to adjust for around -250 MOA.  Not sure there's a scope capable of that.   :-\

Cool story bro.

So what part of "confirmed kill shot" you didn't understand? "The kill was independently verified by video camera and other data, The Globe and Mail has learned." What do you think there happen? This sniper was hanging around and saw a guy 3540metres (2.3 miles) away, and shot him at the forehead just like in movies? In reality it is different because no one can see a guy 3540metres (2.3 miles) away. In reality there must be a spotter near of the target who tell the shooter where to aim.  Like "Do you see the building with the red car at the front of it? This ISIS Guy is shagging the sheep just at the left corner of it. I start the recording in 5 seconds.." ;D
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: HockeyFightFan on June 22, 2017, 07:19:38 PM
Cue ESFitness with a 5,000 meter kill shot in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.....
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: jude2 on June 22, 2017, 07:21:43 PM
A little luck can go a long way.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Twaddle on June 22, 2017, 07:48:18 PM
Cue ESFitness with a 5,000 meter kill shot in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.....

Legit LMFAO!   :D
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Nirvana on June 22, 2017, 08:00:01 PM
Surely some redneck on new years has shot a gun into the sky and killed someone from further.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on June 23, 2017, 07:01:06 AM
Cue ESFitness with a 5,000 meter kill shot in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.....
With a handgun .......
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: phreak on June 23, 2017, 07:03:58 AM
With a handgun .......
Loaded with blanks....
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: B R on June 23, 2017, 07:04:34 AM
Loaded with blanks....
Blindfolded.....
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: SF1900 on June 23, 2017, 07:15:40 AM
Blindfolded.....

With his hands tied behind his back.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Twaddle on June 23, 2017, 07:34:57 AM
With his hands tied behind his back.

While curing cancer......
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Waller on June 23, 2017, 07:36:28 AM
While curing cancer......

Using a bathtub.....
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: phreak on June 23, 2017, 07:36:40 AM
While curing cancer......
With a rusty guitar string...
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Rambone on June 23, 2017, 07:38:40 AM
Yawn. I was in rehab with a guy who sniped an ISIS soldier from 3541m
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: milone79 on June 23, 2017, 08:30:34 AM
why are fucking Canadian troops in Iraq in a combat role???? when did this happen?????
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 23, 2017, 08:55:30 AM
Good
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on June 23, 2017, 09:01:12 AM
With a rusty guitar string...
Shoved up his ass
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: liberty on June 23, 2017, 09:22:05 AM
Blinfolded ;D
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Rudee on June 23, 2017, 09:31:25 AM
Yawn. I was in rehab with a guy who sniped an ISIS soldier from 3541m

The only Canadian Forces in Iraq and Afghanistan are the Elite Special Forces (JTF2).   Canada withdrew their conventional army a few years ago and the F-18 Jets they had there last year.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: beakdoctor on June 23, 2017, 09:47:03 AM
With a handgun .......

Guns don't kill people ESFitness kills people.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Taffin on June 23, 2017, 09:50:02 AM
Yawn. I was in rehab with a guy who sniped an ISIS soldier from 3541m

Yeah, I heard the ISIS guy was an arrogant dick and a bully to everybody, family included
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Taffin on June 23, 2017, 09:52:04 AM
News just in - this thread is now #branchwarrenapproved  8)

#healthylifestyle LOL love it!

(http://s21.postimg.org/q3mj7tbkn/Branch_big_gun.jpg)
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: mazrim on June 23, 2017, 10:03:24 AM
That's crazy. The lookout/spotter should get just as much credit (if not more).
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: SF1900 on June 23, 2017, 10:19:50 AM
News just in - this thread is now #branchwarrenapproved  8)

#healthylifestyle LOL love it!

(http://s21.postimg.org/q3mj7tbkn/Branch_big_gun.jpg)

lol at calling himself a "badass." Lol
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: CalvinH on June 23, 2017, 10:27:36 AM
And he threw the bullet.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on June 23, 2017, 10:46:39 AM
"Healthylifestyle" "Badass"


hahahahahaha this midget needs a ladder just to get into a normal sized car. Very badass indeed.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Taffin on June 23, 2017, 11:03:08 AM
"Healthylifestyle" "Badass"

hahahahahaha this midget needs a ladder just to get into a normal sized car. Very badass indeed.

Hahaha!  My favorite hashtag there is #barn....
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Kwon on June 23, 2017, 11:07:04 AM
Cue ESFitness with a 5,000 meter kill shot in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.....

Shooting someone he perceived as arrogant and a bully of course.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 23, 2017, 11:21:56 AM
The math involved is insane.  For flat earthers, how can they deny why he had to judge for gravity and curvature of that shot.  Surprised the bullet still had enough power to kill the guy and not just bounce off.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: ESFitness on June 23, 2017, 11:26:40 AM
Cue ESFitness with a 5,000 meter kill shot in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.....

I was only good to about 800 yards.

That's yards.. Obvious you have never fired a rifle with your "meter" comment,& living in Chicago. Not Canada or Europe. Overweight and acne scarred, fat fuck like you have only "fired" weapons in video games. While i was a boy scout since age 5 firing my first rifle at age 6 within a year picking birds off fence posts and powerlines for 100yards with iron sights while fat bums like you exercise your video game thumbs.  Stick to shit you know. Like eating doritos and not having gfs.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 23, 2017, 11:28:07 AM
The truth is he pulled the trigger but someone hiding 10 feet behind the guy shot him with a pistol 10 seconds later.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Simple Simon on June 23, 2017, 11:31:25 AM
I was only good to about 800 yards.

That's yards.. Obvious you have never fired a rifle with your "meter" comment,& living in Chicago. Not Canada or Europe. Overweight and acne scarred, fat fuck like you have only "fired" weapons in video games. While i was a boy scout since age 5 firing my first rifle at age 6 within a year picking birds off fence posts and powerlines for 100yards with iron sights while fat bums like you exercise your video game thumbs.  Stick to shit you know. Like eating doritos and not having gfs.

Ah, pretty little boy like you just had to be a boy scout, no God fearing scoutmaster would let someone as cute as you go to waste.

Its now clear where all you anger has manifested from...

Oh and by the way, the scouts age limit for using firearms is 8 years old.. ;)

try again...

Quote
Level 1: Air Rifle Shooting Experience
Purpose. Introduce and recruit youth to the BSA and the BSA shooting sports programs. The BSA is taking the range and the
experience to the people.
Examples. An air rifle range set up at a community event, county or state fair, a mall, a store opening, etc.
Youth. Minimum age: 8 years old. Male or female
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: ESFitness on June 23, 2017, 11:48:20 AM
Ah, pretty little boy like you just had to be a boy scout, no God fearing scoutmaster would let someone as cute as you go to waste.

Its now clear where all you anger has manifested from...

Oh and by the way, the scouts age limit for using firearms is 8 years old.. ;)

try again...


Ugh.. You and your little "rules". What a joke you are... Mr
 "Hey you can't do that!!", no wonder you have no friends. You think anybody on some farm in the middle of nowhere in the Midwest is gonna give a fuck about your little rulebook? What the fuck does some.speech impediment having rotten teeth cross-eyed Englishman know about guns anyways? Fucken little sissy. God you're a bitch. Kids must be embarrassed as fuck of you.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: NelsonMuntz on June 23, 2017, 12:12:42 PM
 :o

Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Simple Simon on June 23, 2017, 12:19:56 PM
Ugh.. You and your little "rules". What a joke you are... Mr
 "Hey you can't do that!!", no wonder you have no friends. You think anybody on some farm in the middle of nowhere in the Midwest is gonna give a fuck about your little rulebook? What the fuck does some.speech impediment having rotten teeth cross-eyed Englishman know about guns anyways? Fucken little sissy. God you're a bitch. Kids must be embarrassed as fuck of you.

apart from having made up DUIs that never happened and going to prison for holding up a convenience store because you thought you were a bad ass, how many rules can you prove to us that you have broken?

Even your attorney cried in court for mercy for you saying you had an unblemished record as far as the law was concerned.

You are all fucking talk..


In fact, Im even posting again when i know its not you, FFS will I ever learn

If it really is you then you must be the dumbest person thats ever lived, everyone on this board is taking the piss out of your tales of daring do and yet here you are still posting them, seriously, between you and dj181 im not sure whos the dumbest.

In fact, there a pretty good chance you and the dj account are the same familiar gimmick.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: NelsonMuntz on June 23, 2017, 12:20:09 PM
..

Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Kwon on June 23, 2017, 12:26:53 PM
ROFL at you thinking a 3,540m shot is some MERIT!

ESFitness does that (and more) in his sleep, by throwing the bullet with his hands!
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Simple Simon on June 23, 2017, 12:36:23 PM
sniper had exactly the same reaction as this guy when he heard he hit the ISIS guy.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/aCuhZfeheGIk8/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: NelsonMuntz on June 23, 2017, 01:18:46 PM
ROFL at you thinking a 3,540m shot is some MERIT!

ESFitness does that (and more) in his sleep, by throwing the bullet with his hands!

actually rumour has it he swallows the bullet than snorts it out his nose like a loogie towards his target 3540.5 meters away while shouting "INSTANT DEATH!!!"
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: jude2 on June 23, 2017, 09:05:56 PM
lol at calling himself a "badass." Lol
My daughter would have a fit with all those ### lol
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: beakdoctor on June 23, 2017, 09:53:07 PM
Hahaha!  My favorite hashtag there is #barn....


Really? I laughed my was off when I saw #gargoyle. Hilarious given that he looks like one.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: ESFitness on June 24, 2017, 12:36:07 AM
:o



Hey nelson your self-righteous dry drunk why don't you scroll up and see before opening your fucking mouth that I was fucking replying to somebody else you brought me up in the thread. You stupid punk bitch made guy. Why don't you pour yourself up little bourbon double on the rocks and think of something clever to say at your next AA meeting which I'm sure you speak at
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: ESFitness on June 24, 2017, 12:40:08 AM
apart from having made up DUIs that never happened and going to prison for holding up a convenience store because you thought you were a bad ass, how many rules can you prove to us that you have broken?

Even your attorney cried in court for mercy for you saying you had an unblemished record as far as the law was concerned.

You are all fucking talk..


In fact, Im even posting again when i know its not you, FFS will I ever learn

If it really is you then you must be the dumbest person thats ever lived, everyone on this board is taking the piss out of your tales of daring do and yet here you are still posting them, seriously, between you and dj181 im not sure whos the dumbest.

In fact, there a pretty good chance you and the dj account are the same familiar gimmick.

Why the fuck would I make up DUIs you fucking Pinhead? The fuck is wrong with you? Seriously dude you're fucking 50 something years old you're a punk bitch with the retarded fucking kids a fat fucking dunce for a wife you don't own a car you drive a train for a living and make less than $30,000 a year living a shithole fucking apartment with a fucking family still watch TV in something that looks like a fucking microwave and have a CD player in a VHS player on top of it. I'm easy to get a hold of but you're too much of a fucking punk bitch even try to contact me. You're a fucking coward dude a straight-up fucking town who trolls the fucking internet accusing people of being gimmicks and accusing people of making shit up like I'm a make up a fucking DUI you fucking idiot like you're going to fucking try to get me or coarse me or trick me into taking pictures of the fucking set and seen papers and post my my fucking Instagram so your bitch ass can fucking read them and then gloat and brag and giggle about how you made me take pictures and you tripped me into posting them like I give a fuck dude your a fucking punk bitch you're fucking anorexic as fuck you can't fucking afford food so you don't fucking eat. You're a bitter fucking old man with zero fucking friends because people can't stand to be around you you're soaking pathetic dude.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Waller on June 24, 2017, 12:46:42 AM
Why the fuck would I make up DUIs you fucking Pinhead? The fuck is wrong with you? Seriously dude you're fucking 50 something years old you're a punk bitch with the retarded fucking kids a fat fucking dunce for a wife you don't own a car you drive a train for a living and make less than $30,000 a year living a shithole fucking apartment with a fucking family still watch TV in something that looks like a fucking microwave and have a CD player in a VHS player on top of it. I'm easy to get a hold of but you're too much of a fucking punk bitch even try to contact me. You're a fucking coward dude a straight-up fucking town who trolls the fucking internet accusing people of being gimmicks and accusing people of making shit up like I'm a make up a fucking DUI you fucking idiot like you're going to fucking try to get me or coarse me or trick me into taking pictures of the fucking set and seen papers and post my my fucking Instagram so your bitch ass can fucking read them and then gloat and brag and giggle about how you made me take pictures and you tripped me into posting them like I give a fuck dude your a fucking punk bitch you're fucking anorexic as fuck you can't fucking afford food so you don't fucking eat. You're a bitter fucking old man with zero fucking friends because people can't stand to be around you you're soaking pathetic dude.

BeThere isn't on you Christmas card list then?
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: ESFitness on June 24, 2017, 12:52:57 AM
BeThere isn't on you Christmas card list then?
cowardly old men who cannot and will not fight will always be subjected to those who can and will. Jeffrey knows this and hides behind his computer which like his TV probably resembles the Easy-Bake Oven his son always wanted as a child but Jeffrey could never afford
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: B R on June 24, 2017, 12:55:58 AM
cowardly old men who cannot and will not fight will always be subjected to those who can and will. Jeffrey knows this and hides behind his computer which like his TV probably resembles the Easy-Bake Oven his son always wanted as a child but Jeffrey could never afford
He is deep in your head though isn't he?
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Simple Simon on June 24, 2017, 01:22:45 AM
Why the fuck would I make up DUIs you fucking Pinhead? The fuck is wrong with you? Seriously dude you're fucking 50 something years old you're a punk bitch with the retarded fucking kids a fat fucking dunce for a wife you don't own a car you drive a train for a living and make less than $30,000 a year living a shithole fucking apartment with a fucking family still watch TV in something that looks like a fucking microwave and have a CD player in a VHS player on top of it. I'm easy to get a hold of but you're too much of a fucking punk bitch even try to contact me. You're a fucking coward dude a straight-up fucking town who trolls the fucking internet accusing people of being gimmicks and accusing people of making shit up like I'm a make up a fucking DUI you fucking idiot like you're going to fucking try to get me or coarse me or trick me into taking pictures of the fucking set and seen papers and post my my fucking Instagram so your bitch ass can fucking read them and then gloat and brag and giggle about how you made me take pictures and you tripped me into posting them like I give a fuck dude your a fucking punk bitch you're fucking anorexic as fuck you can't fucking afford food so you don't fucking eat. You're a bitter fucking old man with zero fucking friends because people can't stand to be around you you're soaking pathetic dude.


you have two DUIs in a year and are still driving a car.

It doesnt make sense, why wasnt your licence revoked?
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Simple Simon on June 24, 2017, 01:27:32 AM
cowardly old men who cannot and will not fight will always be subjected to those who can and will. Jeffrey knows this and hides behind his computer which like his TV probably resembles the Easy-Bake Oven his son always wanted as a child but Jeffrey could never afford

when did you last have a fight?
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: B R on June 24, 2017, 01:31:45 AM
when did you last have a fight?

This should be good.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: ESFitness on June 24, 2017, 01:53:24 AM

you have two DUIs in a year and are still driving a car.

It doesnt make sense, why wasnt your licence revoked?

You were the kid who carried around the rule book in grade sxhool, weren't you? You dumb motherfuckers. No wonder you have no friends.

You think there's an invisible shield around my cars now? You think the govt seizes them? Fuck you're stupid.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: ESFitness on June 24, 2017, 01:54:42 AM
He is deep in your head though isn't he?

Deep in my head? Look around genius.. do you see me following him to every thread and posting after he posts? Or do you see him following me to every thread and every post I make trolling like a little bitch? The punk guy follows me and talks about me all day everyday and your dumbass thinks he is in my head?
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: ESFitness on June 24, 2017, 01:55:44 AM
when did you last have a fight?

Last fall.tell us all why you ask.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Simple Simon on June 24, 2017, 03:32:51 AM
Last fall.tell us all why you ask.

because a 34 year old man having fights is fucking pathetic.

If it was last fall I take it you were drunk bearing in mind your stint in rehab for alcohol was in November
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Waller on June 24, 2017, 03:35:10 AM
because a 34 year old man having fights is fucking pathetic.

If it was last fall I take it you were drunk bearing in mind your stint in rehab for alcohol was in November

In all seriousness, if somebody wronged you or someone you love to big enough degree, would you not want to physically hurt them?
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Simple Simon on June 24, 2017, 03:35:52 AM
Deep in my head? Look around genius.. do you see me following him to every thread and posting after he posts? Or do you see him following me to every thread and every post I make trolling like a little bitch? The punk guy follows me and talks about me all day everyday and your dumbass thinks he is in my head?

Funniest thing is that you dont actually type your long winded rants about me, you use a microphone in your phone.

Fuck me you actually sit there shouting all that shit out, what on earth must your neighbours thinks going on?
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Simple Simon on June 24, 2017, 03:40:44 AM
In all seriousness, if somebody wronged you or someone you love to big enough degree, would you not want to physically hurt them?

I dont put myself in positions where people are out to wrong me, neither do the people close to me.

If someone harmed my family then I would likely want to do something to them, thats not a fight though is it?

Esfitness obviously goes around provoking the situations.

If someone walked up to me in a bar and threatened me i would just ignore it, Im the better man you see, I wouldnt stoop to their level, if they hit me however i would hit them back.

most situations occur because someone wont back down, why would you care about what some meathead thinks of you?

the only time i would use violence is if I was in no position to walk away.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Waller on June 24, 2017, 03:44:55 AM
I dont put myself in positions where people are out to wrong me, neither do the people close to me.

If someone harmed my family then I would likely want to do something to them, thats not a fight though is it?

Esfitness obviously goes around provoking the situations.

If someone walked up to me in a bar and threatened me i would just ignore it, Im the better man you see, I wouldnt stoop to their level, if they hit me however i would hit them back.

most situations occur because someone wont back down, why would you care about what some meathead thinks of you?

the only time i would use violence is if I was in no position to walk away.

You really must live in a nice area. Sometimes people do something just because they're a twat, regardless of where you put yourself.

If you get physical with them and they resist in the slightest then I'd say yes, that's a fight.





Also stop being such a betacowardpussy.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Simple Simon on June 24, 2017, 03:47:15 AM
You really must live in a nice area. Sometimes people do something just because they're a twat, regardless of where you put yourself.

If you get physical with them and they resist in the slightest then I'd say yes, that's a fight.





Also stop being such a betacowardpussy.

I dont come into contact with fuckwits, I can spot them a mile away.
When did you last have a fight and how old are you?

bear in mind Im 52 and dont frequent places where young headstrong assholes tend to hang out.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Waller on June 24, 2017, 03:52:50 AM
I dont come into contact with fuckwits, I can spot them a mile away.
When did you last have a fight and how old are you?

bear in mind Im 52 and dont frequent places where young headstrong assholes tend to hang out.

I beat your cousin up in rehab last week.

My last proper punches thrown fight... was... about 4-5 years ago? I got cheap shotted by some twat and responded. I'm 33 now.

All of my physical altercations beyond teenage years have been while working the door. I've never had trouble when I'm just out etc. And I've never started any of them.

But, people are twats and have egos.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Simple Simon on June 24, 2017, 03:59:26 AM
I beat your cousin up in rehab last week.

My last proper punches thrown fight... was... about 4-5 years ago? I got cheap shotted by some twat and responded. I'm 33 now.

All of my physical altercations beyond teenage years have been while working the door. I've never had trouble when I'm just out etc. And I've never started any of them.

But, people are twats and have egos.

you work on doors you get in fights, thats the job

I did a few doors myself (not many)in the mid 90s, never had a fight doing that either, clubs were dance clubs no booze so not many dickheads, had to remove people, I just asked them to leave and they left.

So you see , if you pick your spots you can avoid fights.

I was in a club years ago and some guy wanted to fight me, no idea why, I just summoned one of the door guys over and had him removed, why should i ruin my night fighting when people are paid to keep the place safe?
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Waller on June 24, 2017, 04:13:17 AM
you work on doors you get in fights, thats the job

I did a few doors myself (not many)in the mid 90s, never had a fight doing that either, clubs were dance clubs no booze so not many dickheads, had to remove people, I just asked them to leave and they left.

So you see , if you pick your spots you can avoid fights.

I was in a club years ago and some guy wanted to fight me, no idea why, I just summoned one of the door guys over and had him removed, why should i ruin my night fighting when people are paid to keep the place safe?

Where I live there are serious attitude and drug problems. Steroids and coke are rife. In this town alone we have gyms in the double digits and dojos nearing double digits. It's not even a massive place.

There are a few genuine names here, which makes for a lot of ESFitness wannabes. A few tattoos, a bit of mma, some gear and alcohol. You get the picture.

PM me your postcode, it sounds better there.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Simple Simon on June 24, 2017, 04:18:07 AM
Where I live there are serious attitude and drug problems. Steroids and coke are rife. In this town alone we have gyms in the double digits and dojos nearing double digits. It's not even a massive place.

There are a few genuine names here, which makes for a lot of ESFitness wannabes. A few tattoos, a bit of mma, some gear and alcohol. You get the picture.

PM me your postcode, it sounds better there.

You should move......
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Waller on June 24, 2017, 04:21:15 AM
You should move......

Tell me about it.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: ESFitness on June 24, 2017, 04:24:11 AM
because a 34 year old man having fights is fucking pathetic.

If it was last fall I take it you were drunk bearing in mind your stint in rehab for alcohol was in November

Last fall were organized fights. You clown. With wraps and gloves and a referee
 Not a "fistfight"... who the fuck calls it a fist fight anyways? You do some 50 year old collard who learned his lesson was 18 years old when he got his teeth kicked in for running his mouth and has ever since stuck to talking shit behind people's backs and on computer screens
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: ESFitness on June 24, 2017, 04:31:31 AM
I dont come into contact with fuckwits, I can spot them a mile away.
When did you last have a fight and how old are you?

bear in mind Im 52 and dont frequent places where young headstrong assholes tend to hang out.

You fail to realize that you are the fuck wit here Jeffrey. It's your bitch ass who provokes everything here you understand that? You think I go around provoking shit? I don't tolerate your fucking disrespect. In my day-to-day life I don't have anorexic Malachy arrogant 50 year old bitches like yourself following me around running their fucking mouth because most people fucking know better. Look at you. You're a fucking fifty-two-year-old coward who has no friends and no interaction with other human beings because you know that if you say something you want to say to them to their face they are going to kick in your fucking teeth because you are a bitch. Bottom line you are a fucking bitch. A coward. What kind of grown man 52 year old grown man no less rolls internet message boards? The way you do. You stay away from places where people gather because nobody will tolerate you and the safest place for you is in your little ship box home with your obese rabbit tooth wife and Down syndrome kids.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Simple Simon on June 24, 2017, 05:17:42 AM
You fail to realize that you are the fuck wit here Jeffrey. It's your bitch ass who provokes everything here you understand that? You think I go around provoking shit? I don't tolerate your fucking disrespect. In my day-to-day life I don't have anorexic Malachy arrogant 50 year old bitches like yourself following me around running their fucking mouth because most people fucking know better. Look at you. You're a fucking fifty-two-year-old coward who has no friends and no interaction with other human beings because you know that if you say something you want to say to them to their face they are going to kick in your fucking teeth because you are a bitch. Bottom line you are a fucking bitch. A coward. What kind of grown man 52 year old grown man no less rolls internet message boards? The way you do. You stay away from places where people gather because nobody will tolerate you and the safest place for you is in your little ship box home with your obese rabbit tooth wife and Down syndrome kids.

hahahaha  you said all that out loud...


its pretty clear you cant be a real person no one is as stupid as that in real life.

Im a 52 year old man who has his shit together , you are a 34 year old loser who is a beer or painkiller away from a stint in rehab.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: CalvinH on June 24, 2017, 05:44:36 AM
hahahaha  you said all that out loud...


iyou are a 34 year old loser who is a beer or painkiller away from a stint in rehab.


Probably while driving and proud of it.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: ratherbebig on June 24, 2017, 06:09:18 AM
there's no upper age limit to fighting, for many it's a hobby, not everybody can be a stamp collector.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Dave D on June 24, 2017, 06:17:10 AM
there's no upper age limit to fighting, for many it's a hobby, not everybody can be a stamp collector.

Stamp collecting is no longer an American hobby as the postal service has been phased out thanks to technology.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: NelsonMuntz on June 24, 2017, 10:49:20 AM
Hey nelson your self-righteous dry drunk why don't you scroll up and see before opening your fucking mouth that I was fucking replying to somebody else you brought me up in the thread. You stupid punk bitch made guy. Why don't you pour yourself up little bourbon double on the rocks and think of something clever to say at your next AA meeting which I'm sure you speak at

when have I ever made fun of you being an addict? you are not the only one here I bust balls with so lighten up Francis

I was at a meeting this morning btw, so than you very much
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Taffin on June 24, 2017, 11:31:01 AM
C'mon guys, let's keep this thread about guns'n'muscles....

(ps - hope your meeting was positive Nelson - keep the faith buddy  :))

(http://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/f8/24/e9/f824e9ebfbcc99e4b9e1ee4f258349ba.jpg)
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: ratherbebig on June 24, 2017, 11:34:51 AM
Stamp collecting is no longer an American hobby as the postal service has been phased out thanks to technology.

 >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Simple Simon on June 24, 2017, 11:53:14 AM
You were the kid who carried around the rule book in grade sxhool, weren't you? You dumb motherfuckers. No wonder you have no friends.

You think there's an invisible shield around my cars now? You think the govt seizes them? Fuck you're stupid.

so you drive whilst disqualified with your kids in the car.

You are some piece of work....
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: ratherbebig on June 24, 2017, 02:11:02 PM
do you think snipers are brave or cowards  ???
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Simple Simon on June 24, 2017, 03:15:30 PM
do you think snipers are brave or cowards  ???

depends whos side they are on I suppose.

the USA reports
"We have launched a pre-emptive strike on our enemy"

and the next day
"Cowardly Iraqi dogs launch unprovoked attack on our boys"
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: ratherbebig on June 24, 2017, 03:22:31 PM
should snipers be allowed?
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Waller on June 24, 2017, 03:35:37 PM
should snipers be allowed?

Even if they weren't the rule wouldn't be followed by all, so they are necessary.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: ratherbebig on June 24, 2017, 03:42:27 PM
Even if they weren't the rule wouldn't be followed by all, so they are necessary.

so if one side doesnt follow the rules that makes it ok for the other side to not follow the rules?
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Waller on June 24, 2017, 03:46:36 PM
so if one side doesnt follow the rules that makes it ok for the other side to not follow the rules?

It makes it necessary, unless they are willing to sacrifice tactical advantage and men for morals.

Are snipers that big of a deal anymore anyway? The U.S come under sniper fire in the middle East and they take cover and call in warthogs or something until they're blown to shit. (Edit: I meant to emphasise that snipers are way down on the playing field now, not that the western forces shouldn't worry or we have better)
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: ratherbebig on June 24, 2017, 03:51:30 PM
It makes it necessary, unless they are willing to sacrifice tactical advantage and men for morals.

Are snipers that big of a deal anymore anyway? The U.S come under sniper fire in the middle East and they take cover and call in warthogs or something until they're blown to shit. (Edit: I meant to emphasise that snipers are way down on the playing field now, not that the western forces shouldn't worry or we have better)

not sure.

i did see that american sniper-movie clint eastwood made. but he might not be up to date either. he's getting old.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Waller on June 24, 2017, 03:55:17 PM
not sure.

i did see that american sniper-movie clint eastwood made. but he might not be up to date either. he's getting old.

Getting old? He got old. The old he got has gotten old. I think Clint may be the only person left alive who can verify Wes' real age.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: tommywishbone on June 24, 2017, 07:51:31 PM
I shot a bale of hay with a bow & arrow one time. I was aiming at the tree the bale of hay was leaning against, but it was still a pretty good shot.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: ratherbebig on June 25, 2017, 02:47:57 AM
I shot a bale of hay with a bow & arrow one time. I was aiming at the tree the bale of hay was leaning against, but it was still a pretty good shot.

did you pursue a career in military?
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Taffin on July 02, 2017, 03:12:30 AM
Sorry to bump my own thread, I know it's bad form, but I just watched this video about the ballistics of the shot.  What really stood out was the diagram they used to show just how high above the target the sniper must have aimed - I may have misheard (800ft??), but the diagram shows their calculation..... it's pretty mind-blowing....

Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: ESFitness on July 02, 2017, 03:51:51 AM
Sorry to bump my own thread, I know it's bad form, but I just watched this video about the ballistics of the shot.  What really stood out was the diagram they used to show just how high above the target the sniper must have aimed - I may have misheard (800ft??), but the diagram shows their calculation..... it's pretty mind-blowing....



I think the holdover was 800inches.. Buick which means he aimed for 800 in above the Target and that's not even including or mentioning windage adjustments. That's like a Hail Mary with a bullet
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Taffin on July 02, 2017, 04:06:34 AM
Just found this...  :o

Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Ropo on July 02, 2017, 06:29:02 AM
Sorry to bump my own thread, I know it's bad form, but I just watched this video about the ballistics of the shot.  What really stood out was the diagram they used to show just how high above the target the sniper must have aimed - I may have misheard (800ft??), but the diagram shows their calculation..... it's pretty mind-blowing....




Misheard..or misunderstand..anyway, shots like that cannot be done without one of these: http://www.coldshotusa.com/ (http://www.coldshotusa.com/)
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/h5Ak5paJ9o4/maxresdefault.jpg) so you can adjust the angle of the optics in relative to the barrel: you see the target even if your gun is pointing to the clouds.
(http://warnescopemounts.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/0MOA-vs-20MOA-edit.jpg)
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Tapeworm on July 02, 2017, 09:56:55 AM
Just found this...  :o



You have to own a lot of acres to be allowed to buy a rifle like that here.  :(  Permitted caliber goes by land size, I think, so that's basically a couple million dollar gun plus a few 10k in optics.  And I think he said he's firing solid copper bullets.  (Doesn't everyone?)  I don't think 'Mark and Sam' are coming home after work from the local hardware or grocery store.

While I'm being a dick - yes, these shots are amazing but the point almost eludes me.  If you're the military you could send a guided missile to a target painted by satellite or drone, or just hit it with the drone's weaponry, and hit it every time, from an even greater distance.  To ok a shot like the Canuk took and not use more expensive kill-assured weapons, commanders must have been like "Meh, if you can get him cool but if you miss it's not that big a deal."  If you're a hobby shooter interested in accuracy then why not just use a bench rifle with micrometer adjustments and a viewing screen?  I see little distinction between that and propping a traditional rifle on a bipod plus a sand bag for stability.  It's not like you're holding the thing at all.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Simple Simon on July 02, 2017, 11:09:25 AM
Just found this...  :o



shame he didnt shoot this guy at 3mins 30
(http://www.cartoonspot.net/looney-tunes/picture/road-runner-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Taffin on July 02, 2017, 11:14:10 AM
shame he didnt shoot this guy at 3mins 30
(http://www.cartoonspot.net/looney-tunes/picture/road-runner-1.jpg)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAA!  Great spot - I didn't think of that when I saw it  ;D
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Taffin on July 02, 2017, 11:25:08 AM
You have to own a lot of acres to be allowed to buy a rifle like that here.  :(  Permitted caliber goes by land size, I think, so that's basically a couple million dollar gun plus a few 10k in optics.  And I think he said he's firing solid copper bullets.  (Doesn't everyone?)  I don't think 'Mark and Sam' are coming home after work from the local hardware or grocery store.

While I'm being a dick - yes, these shots are amazing but the point almost eludes me.  If you're the military you could send a guided missile to a target painted by satellite or drone, or just hit it with the drone's weaponry, and hit it every time, from an even greater distance.  To ok a shot like the Canuk took and not use more expensive kill-assured weapons, commanders must have been like "Meh, if you can get him cool but if you miss it's not that big a deal."  If you're a hobby shooter interested in accuracy then why not just use a bench rifle with micrometer adjustments and a viewing screen?  I see little distinction between that and propping a traditional rifle on a bipod plus a sand bag for stability.  It's not like you're holding the thing at all.

Phew, lot to get through here, but I'll try....

First, I'm from the UK so we have very different laws.  May I ask roughly whereabouts you post from?  As it sounds like it may be an agricultural sort of place if the laws are predicated on 'owned acreage'  :)  In these parts we're allowed shotguns but not much else (yes there are other tools allowed but not many I believe)

Second - I admit my ignorance in that I have no idea what weapon he used, but when you say "couple million dollar gun" you exaggerate surely?  Optics Ropo explained to me already (thx)

Third - thank you for educating me about the benefits of copper bullets - I had no idea - http://cuttingedgebullets.com/copper-vs-lead-bullets (http://cuttingedgebullets.com/copper-vs-lead-bullets)

Finally - sure, in a purely military sense the dead guy must have been a medium on the bad-guy scale so why not have a go, but as for the hobby shooter thing I (confess ignorance again) that I don't know what a "bench rifle with micrometer adjustments and a viewing screen" really means, but it sure sounds like fun!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Tapeworm on July 02, 2017, 05:03:38 PM
Phew, lot to get through here, but I'll try....

First, I'm from the UK so we have very different laws.  May I ask roughly whereabouts you post from?  As it sounds like it may be an agricultural sort of place if the laws are predicated on 'owned acreage'  :)  In these parts we're allowed shotguns but not much else (yes there are other tools allowed but not many I believe)

Second - I admit my ignorance in that I have no idea what weapon he used, but when you say "couple million dollar gun" you exaggerate surely?  Optics Ropo explained to me already (thx)

Third - thank you for educating me about the benefits of copper bullets - I had no idea - http://cuttingedgebullets.com/copper-vs-lead-bullets (http://cuttingedgebullets.com/copper-vs-lead-bullets)

Finally - sure, in a purely military sense the dead guy must have been a medium on the bad-guy scale so why not have a go, but as for the hobby shooter thing I (confess ignorance again) that I don't know what a "bench rifle with micrometer adjustments and a viewing screen" really means, but it sure sounds like fun!!!  ;D


'Straya, cunt! You'll pick up a couple thousand acres for couple million but you have to do that before you get to buy the gun.  Bench rifles are super accurate, heavy things with knobs that dial in adjustments in fine increments.  I figure once you're that detached from the rifle, you might as well not bother snuggling a cheek against it and opt instead to send the image you'd see through the scope to a screen.  
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 02, 2017, 08:49:48 PM
Ah, pretty little boy like you just had to be a boy scout, no God fearing scoutmaster would let someone as cute as you go to waste.

Its now clear where all you anger has manifested from...

Oh and by the way, the scouts age limit for using firearms is 8 years old.. ;)

try again...


Gold
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Ropo on July 02, 2017, 10:21:06 PM
Phew, lot to get through here, but I'll try....

First, I'm from the UK so we have very different laws.  May I ask roughly whereabouts you post from?  As it sounds like it may be an agricultural sort of place if the laws are predicated on 'owned acreage'  :)  In these parts we're allowed shotguns but not much else (yes there are other tools allowed but not many I believe)

Second - I admit my ignorance in that I have no idea what weapon he used, but when you say "couple million dollar gun" you exaggerate surely?  Optics Ropo explained to me already (thx)

Third - thank you for educating me about the benefits of copper bullets - I had no idea - http://cuttingedgebullets.com/copper-vs-lead-bullets (http://cuttingedgebullets.com/copper-vs-lead-bullets)

Finally - sure, in a purely military sense the dead guy must have been a medium on the bad-guy scale so why not have a go, but as for the hobby shooter thing I (confess ignorance again) that I don't know what a "bench rifle with micrometer adjustments and a viewing screen" really means, but it sure sounds like fun!!!  ;D


Well, in real world good rifles doesn't come with the prize tag of million dollars. Rifle used  to the shot has prize of 12 000 -14 000$(customized), Optics take something like 4000 - 5000$ so you can get similar tools under 30 000$. Quite far from millions. Ammo? Seem to be 12$ per shot with solid copper bullet, which weights 8 oz /226 grams. Only thing which you can't buy is skills needed to make that shot. To make one shot hit at that distance is pure luck no matter who is shooting, but if you hit the target anywhere, it goes down with a splash. Why send missiles or drones, when you can stop lot of things with 12$ bullet?

Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: ESFitness on July 02, 2017, 10:55:28 PM
Well, in real world good rifles doesn't come with the prize tag of million dollars. Rifle used  to the shot has prize of 12 000 -14 000$(customized), Optics take something like 4000 - 5000$ so you can get similar tools under 30 000$. Quite far from millions. Ammo? Seem to be 12$ per shot with solid copper bullet, which weights 8 oz /226 grams. Only thing which you can't buy is skills needed to make that shot. To make one shot hit at that distance is pure luck no matter who is shooting, but if you hit the target anywhere, it goes down with a splash. Why send missiles or drones, when you can stop lot of things with 12$ bullet?


Is take an.416 over a 50.  Better ballistics and cheaper
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Ropo on July 03, 2017, 12:13:09 AM
Is take an.416 over a 50.  Better ballistics and cheaper

what ever..That ballistic gel is meant to be equivalent to human flesh.. ;D

Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: ESFitness on July 03, 2017, 12:43:04 AM
what ever..That ballistic gel is meant to be equivalent to human flesh.. ;D



So? A .45 will still kill you from 300yards but you still gotta hit the target, & hitting the target is easier with a flattrr-shooting, higher velocity .416 than a .50. Does it matter if the 50 will kill you more. You're not walking away from either of them.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Simple Simon on July 03, 2017, 12:51:01 AM
So? A .45 will still kill you from 300yards but you still gotta hit the target, & hitting the target is easier with a flattrr-shooting, higher velocity .416 than a .50. Does it matter if the 50 will kill you more. You're not walking away from either of them.

Im almost convinced you would...
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Taffin on July 03, 2017, 01:28:16 AM
Well, in real world good rifles doesn't come with the prize tag of million dollars. Rifle used  to the shot has prize of 12 000 -14 000$(customized), Optics take something like 4000 - 5000$ so you can get similar tools under 30 000$. Quite far from millions. Ammo? Seem to be 12$ per shot with solid copper bullet, which weights 8 oz /226 grams. Only thing which you can't buy is skills needed to make that shot. To make one shot hit at that distance is pure luck no matter who is shooting, but if you hit the target anywhere, it goes down with a splash. Why send missiles or drones, when you can stop lot of things with 12$ bullet?


I misunderstood Tapeworms response - now he's explained to me that in 'Straya ( ;D) you'd have to spend millions on purchasing enough land to allow you to legally own a rifle of that sort, so it was an indirect cost - the price of the rifle itself is almost beside the point.... And I suppose if you're that rich, then $12 a shot doesn't really matter...  :P

Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Ropo on July 03, 2017, 03:41:17 AM
So? A .45 will still kill you from 300yards but you still gotta hit the target, & hitting the target is easier with a flattrr-shooting, higher velocity .416 than a .50. Does it matter if the 50 will kill you more. You're not walking away from either of them.

Just look around: I bet that there is hundreds of great shooting locations between you and 2.2 miles away from you, in case if someone want to take you down without any fuzz and without the risk of being caught. Just load your own ammunition with paper patched bullets. It increase accuracy and there will be no rifling marks at the bullets..

So how do they found you? By the IP - address, and when they are at the location, they use the thermal imaging camera to locate the moron whose head glows warmer than any others.  ;D
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: ESFitness on July 03, 2017, 04:00:34 AM
Just look around: I bet that there is hundreds of great shooting locations between you and 2.2 miles away from you, in case if someone want to take you down without any fuzz and without the risk of being caught. Just load your own ammunition with paper patched bullets. It increase accuracy and there will be no rifling marks at the bullets..

So how do they found you? By the IP - address, and when they are at the location, they use the thermal imaging camera to locate the moron whose head glows warmer than any others.  ;D

Why would I keep the barrel and firing pin? Or bring my phone?& why would I need 2.2miles? If in wanted somebody gone, a rem 700 in 308 from 600yds or hell, a $120 Mosin m38 in 7.62x54 from 200yds from the back of a rented HomeDepot van would do. Head out to the desert, rack a round and pour tacks down the barrel, tie a string to the trigger and fire it from 10yards back. Remove the bolt/pin, and brass and just leave the thing there. Scatter the rest off free offramp. Return the van and be done with it. Whole things done for 120+12$ for the rounds and $25 for the van. Take less than 2hrs.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Simple Simon on July 03, 2017, 04:13:29 AM
Why would I keep the barrel and firing pin? Or bring my phone?& why would I need 2.2miles? If in wanted somebody gone, a rem 700 in 308 from 600yds or hell, a $120 Mosin m38 in 7.62x54 from 200yds from the back of a rented HomeDepot van would do. Head out to the desert, rack a round and pour tacks down the barrel, tie a string to the trigger and fire it from 10yards back. Remove the bolt/pin, and brass and just leave the thing there. Scatter the rest off free offramp. Return the van and be done with it. Whole things done for 120+12$ for the rounds and $25 for the van. Take less than 2hrs.

its a wonder why anyone ever gets caught murdering someone when such fool proof plans exist...
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: ESFitness on July 03, 2017, 04:19:49 AM
its a wonder why anyone ever gets caught murdering someone when such fool proof plans exist...

Don't worry. Youd be had face to face. I'm sure the person would want you to know who did it & stand there laughing while you're begging & crying like a little bitch & shitting your pants after taking a couple to the chest.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Simple Simon on July 03, 2017, 04:33:53 AM
Don't worry. Youd be had face to face. I'm sure the person would want you to know who did it & stand there laughing while you're begging & crying like a little bitch & shitting your pants after taking a couple to the chest.

so you admit you would need a gun to do it.

point noted tough guy...
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Ropo on July 03, 2017, 05:43:21 AM
so you admit you would need a gun to do it.

point noted tough guy...

Just change his wank- lubricant to super glue, and he yank his cock off and die by bleeding  ;D
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: ESFitness on July 03, 2017, 10:14:19 AM
so you admit you would need a gun to do it.

point noted tough guy...

Need? Lol
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Parker on July 03, 2017, 10:22:05 AM
Benchmr needs to come here to give the ignorant an education.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Dave D on July 03, 2017, 10:24:39 AM
Why would I keep the barrel and firing pin? Or bring my phone?& why would I need 2.2miles? If in wanted somebody gone, a rem 700 in 308 from 600yds or hell, a $120 Mosin m38 in 7.62x54 from 200yds from the back of a rented HomeDepot van would do. Head out to the desert, rack a round and pour tacks down the barrel, tie a string to the trigger and fire it from 10yards back. Remove the bolt/pin, and brass and just leave the thing there. Scatter the rest off free offramp. Return the van and be done with it. Whole things done for 120+12$ for the rounds and $25 for the van. Take less than 2hrs.


The only problem with this idea is that it didn't work in Jack Reacher :/
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: ESFitness on July 03, 2017, 06:29:01 PM

The only problem with this idea is that it didn't work in Jack Reacher :/

I'm pretty sure you could pick up an m38 for a couple hundred at a gun show with bullets. They're not the most accurate so Youd be lucky with a 4-5moa but you should be able to take a target cm with 2 rounds at 100yards. And 2 should be plenty with 762x54. Hell, fire from inside a truck. I didn't even thinknaboutbthat van in jack read her.. I was thi king lee malvo. Just damage the barrel of the rifle and take out the bolt n stuff, wipe it and toss it.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Tapeworm on July 04, 2017, 12:06:46 AM
I doubt mild steel tacks would do much damage to a chromoly barrel.  Jacketed bullets moving through it have no effect.  Why would tacks suddenly mask the rifling signature?  

Just because they're sharp to your finger doesn't mean they're sharp to materials harder than they are.  Can you scratch a rock with a sharp piece of wood?  It's just this sort of lack of critical thinking that's going to see you successfully prosecuted once again.  Imho you're not competent to negotiate the pitfalls of a criminal enterprise.  I advise the path of the straight and narrow.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: ESFitness on July 04, 2017, 12:18:49 AM
I doubt mild steel tacks would do much damage to a chromoly barrel.  Jacketed bullets moving through it have no effect.  Why would tacks suddenly mask the rifling signature?  

Just because they're sharp to your finger doesn't mean they're sharp to materials harder than they are.  Can you scratch a rock with a sharp piece of wood?  It's just this sort of lack of critical thinking that's going to see you successfully prosecuted once again.  Imho you're not competent to negotiate the pitfalls of a criminal enterprise.  I advise the path of the straight and narrow.

Packing metal in there id assume wouldnplave somen gouges in the barrel and  balliatics from the bullets shot before and after wouldn't match up well. Enough for Reasonable Doubt anyways, I would think.. If it even got to that point. Remember firing .45 long colt and .41mag out of a .410 and just a couple rounds of each the barrel (having no obstructions, was marked up inside pretty bad.... every mark  on  the bullets fired  out of it  and use for ballistics  would hopefully have marks  on them that are inconsistent with  the victim's bullet . If they they evenretrieved the bullet from the victim chances are I think that they be assuming it would come for me more common 762x39 rifle like an AK or SKS. Notbsure If they'd be able to determine it was a 762 by 5'4
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: ESFitness on July 04, 2017, 12:21:32 AM
Or just use a smoothbore 12ga slug forn100yds. Probably just as accurate.
Title: Re: Canadian special forces sniper makes record-breaking 3,540m kill shot in Iraq
Post by: Tapeworm on July 04, 2017, 12:29:03 AM
Yeah.  You're probably right.